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ritoky
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my vote is where it's going to stay. | ||
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Damdred
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ritoky
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On September 10 2014 11:06 Damdred wrote: I think syl claim is real so no won't vote him. then please address geript's post. | ||
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Sylencia
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On September 10 2014 06:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi, sloosh and geript now there's someone with some sense  The only way you could ever address geript's post about "it is impossible to not read the PM" is if you could see my PM. As far as I can see, my PM is the only role in the game that would have extra information attached to it, and so whether or not you choose to believe the fact I could avoid the extra information or not is up to you. I just find it amusing how geript pushes for my lynch still, and i find it disappointing that you're taking the bait ritoky | ||
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slOosh
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 10 2014 13:42 slOosh wrote: For anyone who has played games with rayn, could you please refer me to his worst town game (worst in the sense that his reads were all wrong)? This is paramount. You are really basing a read on someone ONLY because they are "wrong"? Now this is why i am voting for you. Being wrong is not scummy. IT'S FUCKING DAY 2!!! I cannot possibly have been wrong more than once in this game. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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##unvote ##vote: geript | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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slOosh
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On September 10 2014 14:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: You are really basing a read on someone ONLY because they are "wrong"? Now this is why i am voting for you. Being wrong is not scummy. IT'S FUCKING DAY 2!!! I cannot possibly have been wrong more than once in this game. That's not what I said, stop putting words in my mouth. Being wrong isn't scummy. But you are rayn (someone who I think is a reasonably strong town player), and in this game you have made a big case against gobble (which ended up wrong) and a big case against sylencia (also ended up wrong), and have called me scum (so I know you are wrong there), yet you still have the gall to call everyone else terrible and / or scum. Not once does it look like anywhere in your filter you considering that you've been very very wrong on your two strongest reads. Like you aren't surprised that they are town. In fact you have set yourself up in a position where you could feasibly call anyone scum and you have been. You've been flinging out accusations and suspicions everywhere. It looks opportunistic, it looks like it could be scum. Now you could be very well town having an off game. So I'm asking if we can get some meaningful discussion on people done rather than jumping around. Who is most likely to be scum and why, or conversely who is most likely to be town and why? I've taken some strong stances, and I'd like to know where you are, and for you to take strong stances that don't shift so much. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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for the record i also called haru and xatalos mafia in neat&tidy mafia on D1 so i was as "wrong" as i have been here (i actually never even voted for gobble) assuming sylencia is town. i am ignoring your point about yourself because i cannot possibly know if you are town or scum and therefore it's not really a point. my reads change because this game is really shitty in my opinion. there is no clear direction in this town and people do not work together. reads are all over the place. noone seems to be giving any shits. it is really hard to find mafia because people make bad decisions and do not read the thread properly. and i am frustrated because of it. so yes, let's work together then. I am ignoring my read on you for now on. let's talk about geript and oats. geript had a strong townread on me on D1. Assume for a second i am town regardless of your read on me, does it seem likely town!geript does not defend his (one of strongest) townread at EOD1 when they are possibly getting lynched? In your opinion, did geript push anything on D1? Like really push, not just vote. What has Oats done in this game that's memorable? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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raynpelikoneet
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Not once does it look like anywhere in your filter you considering that you've been very very wrong on your two strongest reads. Like you aren't surprised that they are town. You should also stop thinking like this because that's not what i ever do. They claimed. Unless cc'd they are town. There is no reason to go "oh damn.. hmm hmm.. what to do!?!?? i was wrong woe on me! need to find something else, but i am sad because wrong". it just doesn't help. I make a decision and move on. | ||
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slOosh
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I'm reviewing geript right now, so just hold on for a few minutes. Could you clarify the "that's what you said" part? I'm thinking you are referring to my use of the "what has he done that was memorable" but that was I believe in reference to Damdred. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On September 10 2014 02:51 slOosh wrote: Still reasonably suspicious of rayn. His two strong scum reads in gobble and Sylencia have ended up in them claiming. Like look at how he treats them before the claim. He points out how this and that and everything is super suspicious and makes them scum. But then they aren't scum. His read on me is wrong, so rayn has been 0 for 3 this game. I am referring to this. You literally said i have been wrong and that's why you think i am scum, no? And i am scum because i let go of my scumreads when it's only reasonable to let go off them. How else i am supposed to read this post? Like tldr'd: - i am scum because i have been wrong (which is not scummy) - i am scum because i let go off my scumreads when i realize i was wrong (which is a towntell) | ||
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slOosh
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On September 10 2014 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am referring to this. You literally said i have been wrong and that's why you think i am scum, no? And i am scum because i let go of my scumreads when it's only reasonable to let go off them. How else i am supposed to read this post? Like tldr'd: - i am scum because i have been wrong (which is not scummy) - i am scum because i let go off my scumreads when i realize i was wrong (which is a towntell) I think I underestimated your mental fortitude. Like I very much agree that this town is lacking direction and that there isn't productive discussion going on, and it's really off-putting since like way too many people aren't caring and for me, whether it's because I haven't played mafia in a while or maybe it's the no flips, but the mental stress is adding up. You were suspicious to me for essentially having an abnormally strong mental fortitude, since I think that only scum could be mentally intact in this town atmosphere. Still reading context of geript / syl claim etc. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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Would you believe someone who says "i think we should lynch this guy but i don't really know if he is mafia or not"? | ||
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slOosh
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Still reading. I do think Sylencia is telling the truth. Looking into geript's reactions. | ||
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slOosh
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On September 09 2014 16:09 LoneMeow wrote: You're right that I should've said it on D1, unfortunately that was not possible. Make whatever you want of that. My take on slOosh has not changed, he's still my top scum read. Sylencia is quite scummy, especially for calling slOosh scum but not doing anything about it. All the while pushing geript who doesn't seem likely to get lynched right now. I'm still his top scum read, meaning he has read me scum for quite some time, but he himself has done little to get me lynched. Then he accuses Sylencia for failing to do anything. Hypocrisy. Essentially I find LoneMeow more problematic than Oats. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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The facts are that unless Koshi was the Acolyte (which is quite impossible) Sylencia is town. It does not matter what he said. Hell he could even be lying about not reading who the cop is to protect them. Everything besides that fact is irrelevant and unless he is counterclaimed he is town. I find it nearly impossible geript as town does not realize this. | ||
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