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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 24 2014 22:07 GMT
#1961
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.
Writer@WriterYamato
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 22:08 GMT
#1962
On August 25 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 06:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Xatalos from the votes.

1) It was initially between you and yam so you had no reason to switch.

2) It was then the votes started swinging towards Robik away from Yam so the vote was still between you and Robik.
If you stuck on Yamato either you or Robik got lynched so you switching over does not clear you as town at all it just stunk as someone trying to live and maybe get town credibility.


That's fair but we aren't lynching Xatalos day2 so you guys should maybe try to analyse something different now. You are beating a dead horse anyways.


I am responding to this fallacy from Xat

On August 25 2014 06:18 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I understand. I suppose your argument is that:

1) Hapa+jat wanted to save me and would have gotten yamato lynched instead of me if I didn't go for Robik too
2) That means I purposefully killed the Mafia Godfather (who wasn't under much of any suspicion before) when I had the option of still going for yamato to mislynch a townie instead
3) This was supposed to take some heat off me, but really it feels like the same people are still suspecting me and the same people are still townreading me

How does this make sense as scum Xatalos?


point 1 is wrong as Hap specifically said it was between Dam and Robik

Xat had every reason to switch to Robik as it stopped him being the lynch.

This isn't beating a dead horse it is pointing out incorrect reasoning from Xat.

As for analysing something else I already analysed Dam again and concluded he was town, see earlier.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 22:09 GMT
#1963
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.


JAT , Yam and Hap are both safe considering they had no reason to go hard on Robik at the time they did. If they were mafia it would be much easier to just push the vote onto someone who was town.
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 22:15 GMT
#1964
On August 25 2014 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:
I'm having a conversation with xata and no contradiction i see. GB basically did force him to rob in a sense and his survival wasn't in doubt with his loyal subjects

How could GB force him to vote rob if his survival wasn't in doubt. It makes no sense.


Rob wasn't getting traction gb went vote xata....xata switched people went NOT XATA. You guys weren't going to let him die
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 24 2014 22:24 GMT
#1965
I think Kelsen and rayn are both mafia.
You don't think like that?
I don't habe the time to do it before the end of night one but I'll totally dive them and show you they're mafia.
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 22:31 GMT
#1966
KSC? Well I'll await your reasons.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 22:33 GMT
#1967
On August 25 2014 07:08 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 06:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Xatalos from the votes.

1) It was initially between you and yam so you had no reason to switch.

2) It was then the votes started swinging towards Robik away from Yam so the vote was still between you and Robik.
If you stuck on Yamato either you or Robik got lynched so you switching over does not clear you as town at all it just stunk as someone trying to live and maybe get town credibility.


That's fair but we aren't lynching Xatalos day2 so you guys should maybe try to analyse something different now. You are beating a dead horse anyways.


I am responding to this fallacy from Xat

Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 06:18 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not entirely sure I understand. I suppose your argument is that:

1) Hapa+jat wanted to save me and would have gotten yamato lynched instead of me if I didn't go for Robik too
2) That means I purposefully killed the Mafia Godfather (who wasn't under much of any suspicion before) when I had the option of still going for yamato to mislynch a townie instead
3) This was supposed to take some heat off me, but really it feels like the same people are still suspecting me and the same people are still townreading me

How does this make sense as scum Xatalos?


point 1 is wrong as Hap specifically said it was between Dam and Robik

Xat had every reason to switch to Robik as it stopped him being the lynch.

This isn't beating a dead horse it is pointing out incorrect reasoning from Xat.

As for analysing something else I already analysed Dam again and concluded he was town, see earlier.



I don't honestly care too much about this topic one way or another. Point 1 isn't even my interpretation of the situation but Damdred's. IMO it was chaotic and it's hard to say what would have happened if I hadn't voted for Robik.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 22:36 GMT
#1968
On August 25 2014 06:29 Damdred wrote:
I can accept that it would be a dumb bus...bjt you dodged around the bit about the sk and your play this game lining up with it


I don't think I'd play quite like this as SK. I'd probably be just peaceful and try to agree with everyone as much as possible while maintaining some level of scumhunting.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:36 GMT
#1969
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:39 GMT
#1970
On August 25 2014 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 06:53 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:
I'm having a conversation with xata and no contradiction i see. GB basically did force him to rob in a sense and his survival wasn't in doubt with his loyal subjects

How could GB force him to vote rob if his survival wasn't in doubt. It makes no sense.


Rob wasn't getting traction gb went vote xata....xata switched people went NOT XATA. You guys weren't going to let him die

There was no way for him to be sure of that.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 22:39 GMT
#1971
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.

Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:42 GMT
#1972
On August 25 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.


He has fucking 21 PAGES of filter. Show me one example of a scumplayer on this site that had this ridiculous amount of posts at this point. And that's not even the main point. He posts more careful and structured as mafia.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 22:44 GMT
#1973
On August 25 2014 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.


He has fucking 21 PAGES of filter. Show me one example of a scumplayer on this site that had this ridiculous amount of posts at this point. And that's not even the main point. He posts more careful and structured as mafia.


I already explained that it isn't hard for him to mimic his town play. If his town play is to post a giant amount of nonsense.

imagine the crazy scenario where a mafia player mimics his town play! OMG SO WILD
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 22:44 GMT
#1974
If the only reason we take xata off the table is because of a town case hap did (hap even admits now that xata could be the sk or town) thats largely meta based at least how i read it, then i should 100% be off the table for lynch today. If someone can tell me why both situations are bad gets a cookie
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:46 GMT
#1975
On August 25 2014 07:44 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.


He has fucking 21 PAGES of filter. Show me one example of a scumplayer on this site that had this ridiculous amount of posts at this point. And that's not even the main point. He posts more careful and structured as mafia.


I already explained that it isn't hard for him to mimic his town play. If his town play is to post a giant amount of nonsense.

imagine the crazy scenario where a mafia player mimics his town play! OMG SO WILD

I think you have no idea how hard it is to be active as scum. And with active I mean having maybe one half of this filter.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:48 GMT
#1976
On August 25 2014 07:44 Damdred wrote:
If the only reason we take xata off the table is because of a town case hap did (hap even admits now that xata could be the sk or town) thats largely meta based at least how i read it, then i should 100% be off the table for lynch today. If someone can tell me why both situations are bad gets a cookie

If you are hinting at the fact that Hapa also called you town at some point then you are wrong. That case was way weaker.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 22:50 GMT
#1977
On August 25 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.


He has fucking 21 PAGES of filter. Show me one example of a scumplayer on this site that had this ridiculous amount of posts at this point. And that's not even the main point. He posts more careful and structured as mafia.


I already explained that it isn't hard for him to mimic his town play. If his town play is to post a giant amount of nonsense.

imagine the crazy scenario where a mafia player mimics his town play! OMG SO WILD

I think you have no idea how hard it is to be active as scum. And with active I mean having maybe one half of this filter.


Well I am sure you and Hapa are town, If neither of you are lynching Xata d2 then I will look elsewhere.

For me VA and Onegu are still scummy and would be my lynches
Zerg for Life
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 22:50 GMT
#1978
Kel and yamato gave decently strong town cases yamato threw a little meta in so yea
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16322 Posts
August 24 2014 22:52 GMT
#1979
On August 25 2014 07:50 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 07:46 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:44 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:42 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:36 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 25 2014 07:07 yamato77 wrote:
"Aren't lynching Xat day 2" seems like a bold statement. No one is safe just because they voted Robik.

When did I say it is only because he voted Robik? Look at Hapas case for xatalos being town and argue against it. If you can't do that we are not lynching him.


Hapas case was kinda shitty in my opinion. It was based on Xata posting lots in other games or something it just felt shit tier.

I already gave a lot of reasons from THIS GAME why Xata is scum so I would happily lynch him.


He has fucking 21 PAGES of filter. Show me one example of a scumplayer on this site that had this ridiculous amount of posts at this point. And that's not even the main point. He posts more careful and structured as mafia.


I already explained that it isn't hard for him to mimic his town play. If his town play is to post a giant amount of nonsense.

imagine the crazy scenario where a mafia player mimics his town play! OMG SO WILD

I think you have no idea how hard it is to be active as scum. And with active I mean having maybe one half of this filter.


Well I am sure you and Hapa are town, If neither of you are lynching Xata d2 then I will look elsewhere.

For me VA and Onegu are still scummy and would be my lynches

That's more like it.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 22:54 GMT
#1980
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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