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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 22:58 GMT
#1981
Btw before you call something "shit tier" you should explain why it's bad. No, "he's emulating his town play that always gathers pressure instead of his safe scum playstyle!" isn't quite enough.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 23:00 GMT
#1982
On August 25 2014 07:58 Xatalos wrote:
Btw before you call something "shit tier" you should explain why it's bad. No, "he's emulating his town play that always gathers pressure instead of his safe scum playstyle!" isn't quite enough.


are you fucking real I have explained why the read is bad many times

I suppose the more you say though the more towny you are right.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

am i town?
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 23:02 GMT
#1983
I think your persistence is a towny trait, yes.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 23:06 GMT
#1984
Listen jat i don't think xata is getting lynched today at least unless he super scums the thread. I still think he's a good lynch because he is scummy sorta avoids then comes back awhile later to answer etc... but i don't think i can get enough traction on him. However my whole point is you should never take someone off the table because someone makes a town case about that person. that bit you in showdown with me jat.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 23:10 GMT
#1985
Oh only 1h left to resolution period. Ready your cases :D
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 24 2014 23:21 GMT
#1986
On August 25 2014 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Listen jat i don't think xata is getting lynched today at least unless he super scums the thread. I still think he's a good lynch because he is scummy sorta avoids then comes back awhile later to answer etc... but i don't think i can get enough traction on him. However my whole point is you should never take someone off the table because someone makes a town case about that person. that bit you in showdown with me jat.

No, the only reason I went off you in showdown was that your partner bussed you for no reason. And I would have revisited you had you not nightkilled me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
August 24 2014 23:26 GMT
#1987
And I am not taking him off the table because someone made a towncase I am taking him off the table because that case is good.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 00:01 GMT
#1988
Freedom
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 00:03 GMT
#1989
Tbh I doubt I'll get NK'd tonight so I'm mostly looking forward to hearing new things. Like GB, your scumcase on rayn+KSC?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 25 2014 00:09 GMT
#1990
I kinda like Hapa's SK theory. We do have to lynch the SK, you know.
Writer@WriterYamato
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#1991
You promised me your three cases xata lets hear them
Sylencia
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia1057 Posts
August 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#1992
Resolution period has begun (10 minutes ago )
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 00:12 GMT
#1993
Doing the easy ones first just so I have something out there:
Onegu A complete coinflip. Every time I try to read this guy I fail miserably. He appealed to me before being lynched (I was scum he was town) in his last game but I am in no way certain what I would have thought were we both town. I'm fairly certain he is capable (and has performed) personal appeals in scumgames too. Even looking through his posts in this game I have absolutely no clue. Considering we coinflipped Robik and won we could always do the same if we're having problems around deadline D2.

VA So again, the heuristic for the most part goes, Lazy useless VA = town, tryhard VA = scum. He has muddled with this a little in a few later games but the most part I'm able to catch him out when it's needed. This time his town play seems to fit but I think as someone else may (or may not have?) pointed out, it looks as though he is actively and very obviously trying to muddle with his meta this time around by talking about himself and his activity:
On August 24 2014 02:46 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2014 02:44 justanothertownie wrote:
Since when do you care about the lynch day1, vayne?


Do I have to troll every game? not really. I always try when im needed and this game is a mess.

On August 24 2014 05:57 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can do this all day I dont get lynched as town becaus I dont leave pores in my logic and my foundation. Shitty cases will be shot down on sight as usual.

First of all, that first quote is pretty damn mafia-indicative. For the most part, (I say most because I have done this before as town) shitting on activity, ESPECIALLY when there is no reason to shit on activity is a scumtell. I honestly can't think of a reason why he would say the game is a mess when he did. Many players were extremely active and attempting to figure things out. The other thing with that quote is it's completely not true. I can remember a game...Hapa you were in that one I believe and we elected you mayor or something? Anyway a game where Vayne was cop or vig or something and played blatantly anti-town. It's been a while since that happened but it's proof nonetheless, and VA is well aware of his own meta, so the only reason to say things like that is to mess with people like me who can read him pretty damn well.

Question then becomes, is he messing with people as town or scum? I'm leanbing towards scum here because while VA is known to mess with meta as both alignments, he's trying pretty hard to do it here when under fire, and it's fairly well known he cares about his scumgame more than his towngame.

I could lynch him tomorrow.

Damdred/KSC inc.
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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 00:15 GMT
#1994
On August 25 2014 04:36 yamato77 wrote:
Also, JAT, you aren't that good so you can just buzz off telling me what to do.

Also I just have to say that I was completely infuriated when I read this.
yamato you may have once been a quality player but it's been proven time and time again JAT is an extremely strong player as both alignments.

You whined and complained and most of all lucked yourself into not getting lynched yesterday and now all of a sudden you think you can take control and be all arrogant? Please. If you could talk to other people about who is good and who isn't then you wouldn't constantly be on the block while JAT never is. It's very nice that you're actually playing the game now but you had no excuse not to on D1.

/offtopic
Moving on.
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Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 00:19 GMT
#1995
On August 25 2014 09:11 Damdred wrote:
You promised me your three cases xata lets hear them


I'll evaluate my reads based on what happens here + night kills. I'm still not completely sure who I want to lynch.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 25 2014 00:22 GMT
#1996
I came into the night with the intention of rereading Dam and rayn as they were the two biggest question marks based on votes. After rereading I am convinced they are both town. I gave reasons for both of my reads , you can find my reasons I don't want to rehash.

so I still view Xat, Va, and Onegu as my top scum.

I think Onegu is my top lynch for the day mainly because he only pushed on rayn giving a pretty weak reason and at the time when rayn was taking a lot of heat. He was incredibly inactive for the whole game.

Xat won't be lynched today due to his vote ( I gave my thoughts on this ) but I think I will just see his whoever he reads as scum and then put that person in my town list.

VA seems scummy aswell, I don't like how he was inactive at the deadline, or his dam read in retrospect.

Mainly I think not voting Rob and being inactive makes you scummy considering that the pressure was misplaced (yamato, dam, rayn)

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#1997
On August 25 2014 09:19 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 09:11 Damdred wrote:
You promised me your three cases xata lets hear them


I'll evaluate my reads based on what happens here + night kills. I'm still not completely sure who I want to lynch.


shocker
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 25 2014 00:23 GMT
#1998
On August 25 2014 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:
I came into the night with the intention of rereading Dam and rayn as they were the two biggest question marks based on votes. After rereading I am convinced they are both town. I gave reasons for both of my reads , you can find my reasons I don't want to rehash.

so I still view Xat, Va, and Onegu as my top scum.

I think Onegu is my top lynch for the day mainly because he only pushed on rayn giving a pretty weak reason and at the time when rayn was taking a lot of heat. He was incredibly inactive for the whole game.

Xat won't be lynched today due to his vote ( I gave my thoughts on this ) but I think I will just see his whoever he reads as scum and then put that person in my town list.

VA seems scummy aswell, I don't like how he was inactive at the deadline, or his dam read in retrospect.

Mainly I think not voting Rob and being inactive makes you scummy considering that the pressure was misplaced (yamato, dam, rayn)



rofl
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 00:25 GMT
#1999
KSC what was your explanation again as to why you didn't vote yamato over Xat even though you thought they were both scum?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 25 2014 00:25 GMT
#2000
Yeah no never mind. KSC has gotta be town or some really weird/ballsy scumplay is happening here.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
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