Guilty Mini Mafia - Page 102

And on top of all this, you still have to explain to me how voting Yamato, then calling like 5-6 people mafia and antagonizing one of yoru town reads is remotely town-motivated.

On August 25 2014 09:44 Hapahauli wrote:


His behavior is consistent with him going off the deep end as town. He's not pushign objectives. He's just flailing. And that's pretty townie.

On August 25 2014 09:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Hapa, I picked my strongest suspicion and rolled with it.
Pretty fucking simple if you ask me.

The 'who are we lynching' was meant because the thread had no aim at the time. If you look at the post directly before i left the thread I talked about consolidation then too. Since my vote is on yamato, and the thread had no aim, I started pushing everyone towards my strongest scumread, yamato.
Is that not completely fucking obvious to everyone?

Am I in the fucking twilight zone here?

On August 25 2014 09:44 justanothertownie wrote:

plx share

On August 25 2014 09:46 KelsierSC wrote:


Yeh Wave is town, Hapa you are wrong about this

On August 25 2014 09:43 Hapahauli wrote:
@ Wave

Firstly, it doesn't matter whether or not you took a break from the thread. It was under my impression that you did. But if you did not, no matter.

The issue is how you went from a mentality to being "skeptical of everything" to not considering anything other than lynching Yamato very quickly. Like, you were pretty skeptical of me and Xatalos even after you voted for Yamato. And it's so strange for you to have no doubts about Yamato being mafia after this exchange:





Yeah.

And on top of all this, you still have to explain to me how voting Yamato, then calling like 5-6 people mafia and antagonizing one of yoru town reads is remotely town-motivated.

On August 25 2014 09:46 turtlevine wrote:
I'm here to back up GB's reads and handle filter dives and cases for him. The two reads we're talking about are

Rayn and Kelsen, with xat secondary

Rayn : There is no way Hapahauli and Rayn are both town, considering their interaction. The thread got really shit-flingy and really bad, and as townies they'd both want things to remain at least comprehensible. So, one of them must be instigating scum, or both. They could both be scum, because one could be SK and the other could be mafia. They've both both shitty arguments to call out each other, which strikes GB/me as odd. Another thing, is that Hapa oddly unvoted rain after making an entrance with a big case. GB finds this interesting because once, in an obs QT, Hapa said that as mafia, GB should've tried to make a mroe remarkable post-- not being remarkable in any way at all is bad as scum. The awareness of this tactic means he could subvert the trend and make a big post as scum. Hapa's quick join onto Robik ( as opposed to a delayed join once it was working) means that Hapa is definitely not mafia, though he could be scum. So, if we believe one of Rayn/Hapa is going to be scum, it should be Rayn.

Side note is that Onegu's tunnel on rayn is very suspicious and a clever way of avoiding talking about other things. If rayn flips town, Onegu is more likely to be scum.

I'm going to be quick on Xat. You know that his jump wasn't a clincher, and that he could have done whatever as scum. He could also be the SK. we can't rule him out on that.

KSC: this is a bit of a tough nut to crack, but here's the basis for our case. Note that at the start of the day, KSC votes Xatalos. This is OK. This is what you would think. His reasons are not very good. but they are reasons. Look at how else he treats xatalos though. He talks a bit later about how Xat is on his list, but he doesn't lay on the syrup as much as you would expect for a serious push. What shows he is scum is how he acts bout Xat.

Right after the deadline, after the flip, he apologizes to xat. Then he says Xat is town. Thats good. But then afterwards, he says, "xat could still be sk" and this is still kind of reasonable. He explicitly puts Xat in his town list, then moves him back to his scumlist, and isn't very clear on his reasons about this. this flipflopping on xat is very unusual. Either Xat is showing characteristics of an SK, or he isn't. None of this is in reference to things Xat did after the deadline, it's just KSC changing his opinion. It's plausible that this is a legitimate change of heart. GB and I do not think so. It appears opportunitistic.

Rayn and KSC. that's our lynch choice for tomorrow.

On August 25 2014 09:51 WaveofShadow wrote:
ALright I still haven't fucking read Damdred even though I've meant to for like the entirety of D1
Entirely by PoE the rest of scum has to be within Onegu/VA/Damdred (unless we start delving into Shadow game shenannies territory and it's too early for that).
I'd prefer lynching VA so far I think, simply because Onegu is a coinflip and I just can't ever seem to read damdred and I won't lynch him without doing so.

On August 25 2014 09:48 WaveofShadow wrote:

I already did.
Wasn't antagonizing rayn, look at our conversation around that time when he responded to me? Was I making things worse?
I also didn't call 5-6 people mafia. I had suspicion on something like 3-4, which is a MASSIVE difference to me since I am almost ALWAYS unsure of my own scumreads.
Your case holds absolutely no water Hapa, it is horribly weak and obviously wrong.
The question then becomes, why?

On August 25 2014 09:47 Hapahauli wrote:


Why should I listen to you again?

On August 25 2014 09:53 KelsierSC wrote:


you read me as town

On August 25 2014 09:54 Xatalos wrote:


You seem to confuse correct and town a lot in this game though...

On August 25 2014 09:55 KelsierSC wrote:


you seem confused this entire game

On August 25 2014 09:53 Hapahauli wrote:


You had "suspicion" on a lot more than 3-4. And if your interpreting your actions to be anything other than antagonizing Rayn, I find that laughable. You spend more time in your post that voted yamato talking about Rayn and how you were thinking about lynching him for being annoying.

As for you always being unsure of your own scumreads - I will read some of your town games. I find it rediculous how many people you can call suspicious after dropping a vote on someone though.