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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 20:05 GMT
#1941
So explain to me these doubts you had about yamato approaching the deadline i don't see in your notes a real reason for the drastic swings or the doubts nearing deadline so explain that to me
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 24 2014 20:07 GMT
#1942
On August 25 2014 04:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
nice job on the lynch guys, finally got a chance to read up. I think we would have caught robik eventually simply for afking the majority of the game, if I recall he is usually more active.

ill be back later tonight to see the night actions and do some analysis on that if needed.


Would you say you were subjectively useful yesterday?

With your vote being on Damdred and all.


there is a lot of discussion on me and damdred so I would say thats useful. I wanted to come back before deadline but real life did not permit so I lose points there, looks bad.

In the end we dont know if my vote is bad or not yet
I come in for the scraps
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 20:14 GMT
#1943
On August 25 2014 05:05 Damdred wrote:
So explain to me these doubts you had about yamato approaching the deadline i don't see in your notes a real reason for the drastic swings or the doubts nearing deadline so explain that to me


I still really preferred to lynch yamato close to the deadline, but around the time yamato activated and started saying stuff like "you're too focused on your petty details to notice the real scum" I started thinking that he *might* be town after all (that sort of arrogance/confidence belongs to town yamato). But I also thought that it might have been some sort of a desperate plot so I stayed on yamato - Robik never overtook yamato's position as the better lynch, things just went so that I had a better chance of survival voting Robik, which felt more important than protecting someone who didn't even bother to play for a long time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 24 2014 20:15 GMT
#1944
[QUOTE]On August 25 2014 02:34 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 25 2014 01:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
Which should have been obvious even from the start of when it happened, like I said.
At this point it means we're both town, but don't take MY word for it or anything.

Hapa, I'm handing in my homework at the last minute tonight it looks like. I won't have enough time to do the filter diving I wanted to for the rest of the day and last night I really just wanted to play HS (except then fucking Lizard squad n' shit)[/QUOTE]

You can see why this doesn't line up with...

[QUOTE]On August 24 2014 16:25 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 24 2014 10:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 24 2014 10:24 Hapahauli wrote:
[QUOTE]On August 24 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yup no point right now we lynch into people not on robik imo[/QUOTE]

That pool includes you sadly. Your homework is also to go over the votecount and tell us who's mafia. [/QUOTE]
Yeah well aware, and I also look like shit specifically because I didn't want to switch but whatever.
I'm fucking pumped and confident[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
No, honestly I don't. I'm still fucking pumped to be winning and still confident that we're going the distance. What does that have to do with me not doing it right away last night?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 24 2014 20:28 GMT
#1945
On August 25 2014 04:49 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 25 2014 04:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok

you were really sure about yamato being scum spamming the thread with it basically. How much has it changed your read that is. Also with kel saying that he would of moved to yamato before the sudden robik votes why didn't you stick on your top scum read tell kel to switch and consolidate yamato would of still been lynched (Instead of moving to your soft town read in rob)


My notes on yamato77:

yamato77 3 said nothing noteworthy yet - well started making some jokey posts so town? very lurky though which is scummy for him - re-entered the thread with vengeance and has been very townish, I'd say even obvtown level pretty much - Hapa made some good points about him lacking confidence and going on lurking periods though - still (actively?) lurking and posting here and there... gave up exactly like in the PYP game ALERT ALERT - went on to vote & kill Robik though and started actually doing stuff so probably town after all

The points went something like this 0 -> 2 -> 0 -> 4 -> 2 -> 0 -> -4 -> 3. :D

I still wanted to lynch yamato before the deadline over Robik (granted I started to have slight doubts after yamato suddenly activated close to the deadline), but GB voted for me and said he would vote for me if Robik didn't go through, so I just voted for Robik and hoped for the best. It was a bit of a mess during those final minutes and I thought Robik hadn't really done anything to deserve me risking somehow getting lynched instead of yamato (although it was still possible that yamato could be lynched since Hapa & jat wanted to avoid getting me lynched).



A bus was claimed.
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 20:39 GMT
#1946
Think what you will...
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 20:51 GMT
#1947
I don't think your survival was ever in doubt last night. GB almost blackmailed you into voting for robik. Honestly i think yamato came off of you shortly after or before gb voted for you (id have to check) which means if you would of stayed and pushed for yamato i think the thread wpuld of saved you. So yes its a strange survival vote ad well your reaction to people is odd it isn't necessarily this person is scum but more in libe with i don't want to go to lylo or they haven't done enough to deserve to live
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 20:57 GMT
#1948
It was chaotic and there was little time. Perhaps I could have gotten yamato lynched, perhaps not. Doesn't your argument just make me more town though? If you're so sure my vote was the decisive one to kill Robik, why in the world would I bus in that situation?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 21:02 GMT
#1949
No it doesn't make you more town. Your vote was decisive in that jat hapa and others didn't want you to die. You bus in that situation because you were taking a crap ton of heat from the day what better way to get that heat off than giving up the godfather and ride till lylo. Or your a sk and just don't care who dies which fits your attitude this game probably
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 21:18 GMT
#1950
I'm not entirely sure I understand. I suppose your argument is that:

1) Hapa+jat wanted to save me and would have gotten yamato lynched instead of me if I didn't go for Robik too
2) That means I purposefully killed the Mafia Godfather (who wasn't under much of any suspicion before) when I had the option of still going for yamato to mislynch a townie instead
3) This was supposed to take some heat off me, but really it feels like the same people are still suspecting me and the same people are still townreading me

How does this make sense as scum Xatalos?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 21:20 GMT
#1951
Well granted I bussed unnecessarily in my second last scumgame. The automatic conclusion shouldn't still be "clearly a grab for towncred!".
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 24 2014 21:21 GMT
#1952
Besides I swore to never bus so stupidly after that game. If I hadn't done that, we would have probably won the game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 24 2014 21:28 GMT
#1953
Rayn and Kelsen

I'm driving right now so I can explain it now. I'll do it later
I'm adorable.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 21:29 GMT
#1954
I can accept that it would be a dumb bus...bjt you dodged around the bit about the sk and your play this game lining up with it
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 24 2014 21:47 GMT
#1955
On August 25 2014 04:36 yamato77 wrote:
Also, JAT, you aren't that good so you can just buzz off telling me what to do.

Huh?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 24 2014 21:49 GMT
#1956
On August 25 2014 05:51 Damdred wrote:
I don't think your survival was ever in doubt last night. GB almost blackmailed you into voting for robik.

Aren't you contradicting yourself here? I really don't like how you are pushing this atm.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 24 2014 21:52 GMT
#1957
I'm having a conversation with xata and no contradiction i see. GB basically did force him to rob in a sense and his survival wasn't in doubt with his loyal subjects
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 24 2014 21:53 GMT
#1958
On August 25 2014 06:52 Damdred wrote:
I'm having a conversation with xata and no contradiction i see. GB basically did force him to rob in a sense and his survival wasn't in doubt with his loyal subjects

How could GB force him to vote rob if his survival wasn't in doubt. It makes no sense.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 24 2014 21:58 GMT
#1959
Xatalos from the votes.

1) It was initially between you and yam so you had no reason to switch.

2) It was then the votes started swinging towards Robik away from Yam so the vote was still between you and Robik.
If you stuck on Yamato either you or Robik got lynched so you switching over does not clear you as town at all it just stunk as someone trying to live and maybe get town credibility.

Zerg for Life
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
August 24 2014 22:02 GMT
#1960
On August 25 2014 06:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Xatalos from the votes.

1) It was initially between you and yam so you had no reason to switch.

2) It was then the votes started swinging towards Robik away from Yam so the vote was still between you and Robik.
If you stuck on Yamato either you or Robik got lynched so you switching over does not clear you as town at all it just stunk as someone trying to live and maybe get town credibility.


That's fair but we aren't lynching Xatalos day2 so you guys should maybe try to analyse something different now. You are beating a dead horse anyways.
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