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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:49 GlowingBear wrote: Calm down and answer me properly  I want his alignment, not his personalityHe has thought i am mafia for like all game because "i am so wrong" but still he cannot vote because he would actually need to explain something. That's the point about just "being here" and not doing shit. Hiding in shadows. | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: He calls the people who are mafia mafia and town people town. I guess i should clarify my read on Xatalos. Someone not answering to a question is not necessarily didging the question. I do not talk about stuff i find dumb or irrelevant. I ignore it and never remember it any more unless it makes someone mafia. However, when you quote the EXACT post where someone asks you questions and ANSWER that post by saying something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than the original questions - THAT is dodging the questions. What even happened to your "certain" plan of reading me earlier? You just totally forgot about it and ignore everything related to it. And now you go back to stuff that you weren't really confident in earlier in the game because your BS argument a few pages back didn't hold any water. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
I need a bit of fime | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:10 Xatalos wrote: 1) Actually wrong reads (especially very early, initial reads) come more often from town. As scum you have perfect information so it's easy to make your reads somewhat believable. I always craft my reads carefully as scum to be as believable and focused as possible. So I don't really see your point here even if you're somehow right about everything and I'm wrong about everything (no way). The Damdred vote was just something to start the day with, nothing that serious. Btw my notes were my real-time thoughts as I read the thread and nothing like a case or anything. Hard to be immediately 100% sure early on as you read stuff. 2) False. I never called rayn town or even "maybe town". At best null. What you're exaggerating is when I said that "I could see the town motivation behind making that stunt". That's not even any longer the case since clearly there was none - he immediately abandoned the whole idea since my notes matched with my play and there was nothing to push me with. 3) Just stupid. Experienced scum players NEVER, I repeat NEVER do stuff like hard-defend each other and push stuff together. It's about the same as claiming Masons together. This is what gets newb scumteams killed. 4) Go read Arnie Got a Gun Mafia if you think fluff posts indicate scum Xatalos. 5) +2 towny is already somewhat town. And if the argument is good, it's not like I have to 100% townread the one who presented it. Explain why you townread yamato though your reasons dont make sense why were you so happy to sheep hapas read i dont really need to read other games, it isnt hard to mimic your town play if your town play is to have no reads what so ever. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
3) Just stupid. Experienced scum players NEVER, I repeat NEVER do stuff like hard-defend each other and push stuff together. It's about the same as claiming Masons together. This is what gets newb scumteams killed. I have proven this statement to be false before Xatalos even made this post... | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: He has thought i am mafia for like all game because "i am so wrong" but still he cannot vote because he would actually need to explain something. That's the point about just "being here" and not doing shit. Hiding in shadows. Are you fucking retarded or just bad at mafia? Its called being fucking objective, do you really think that just because I got mad at you because of your post earlier and said its scum oriented that I would immediately jump on you!?! NO, BECAUSE I CAN SEPARATE EMOTION FROM ACTION YOU DICK. I CAN SEE THAT I CAN BE WRONG AND NEED MORE FUCKING INFORMATION BEFORE I JUMP ON SOMEONE, I DONT HAVE TO JUMP ON YOU JUST BECAUSE YOU VOTE FOR ME. I KNOW WHEN I WILL START OMGUS. and stop fucking exaggerating about me reading you mafia all game because its just not true, I never made mention of you being mafia up until your stupid little posts about me not posting content. You were wrong then and you are wrong now so go fuck yourself. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Could you also tell me where you have played mafia? Just because i am curious. | ||
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Damdred
15669 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:59 KelsierSC wrote: Dam how do you read Xat and Yamato Yamato is still null for me, i'm going to wait until he actually makes that read he promised on WoS since he said he was going to filter dive him to make a good attempt at it. So just null for now. Xata.... I just don't know, every game we play together we always scum read each other at some point generally it usually ends up him tunneled on me. So this whole thing with him defending me just sends chills up my spine. But at the same time he does throw a little crap my way, I still have him in my town pile right now but he does have a few scummy characteristics | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:53 KelsierSC wrote: Explain why you townread yamato though your reasons dont make sense why were you so happy to sheep hapas read i dont really need to read other games, it isnt hard to mimic your town play if your town play is to have no reads what so ever. Again, he's absolutely useless and unmotivated as scum. He doesn't show emotion. That's from my experience. I don't like how he's lurking so much and avoiding hot topics of discussion though, plus Hapa made some decent points about how he doesn't have real confidence in his reads and how he leaves the thread at crucial points. So currently he's only +1 and he will drop further if his lurking behavior continues. I've been concerned about rayn all game and I've never thought he's town, something I've ALWAYS concluded at some point during D1 if he's town. However, I didn't want to lynch him based on a gut feeling because 1) he'd be an NK magnet as town 2) he could become a real asset as town at some point. Then he did a really shady push on Damdred where I really doubt he even believed in it himself (all his arguments were just wrong / misinterpreted). I was really wavering on believing he could possibly be town. Just then Hapa came out with an additional point pointing to scum rayn and I decided that I'd rather lynch probable scum rather than flip a coin (on yamato who had barely posted at that point, and actually yamato returned to the thread around then as well while showing some of his towny traits - emotion, constantly posting stuff etc.). So that's why. I'd hardly say I have "no reads whatsoever" when I townread you and scumread rayn. My other reads are still under evaluation. Onegu is probably town too though because he instantly focused on figuring out the game when he started posting earlier. As scum he's pretty... unfocused. | ||
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
raynpelikoneet (2): GlowingBear (0): turtlevine (0): yamato77 (0): Damdred (1): Xatalos (2): turtlevine, Hapahauli (2): raynpelikoneet, GlowingBear WaveOfShadow (0): Onegu (0): IAmRobik Not voting (5): WaveOfShadow, justanothertownie, yamato77, Damdred, Hapahauli Deadline is Sunday, Aug 24 1:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (in ). + Show Spoiler [Vote counter log] + VOTE: IAmRobik voted raynscumimpolite (raynpelikoneet) (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted WaveofShadow (WaveOfShadow) (post) VOTE: Xatalos voted Damdred (post) VOTE: IAmRobik unvoted raynpelikoneet (post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted Turtlevine (turtlevine) (post) VOTE: Xatalos unvoted Damdred (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted WaveOfShadow (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted GlowingBear (post) VOTE: turtlevine voted xatalos (Xatalos) (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted GlowingBear (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Xatalos (post) VOTE: Xatalos voted yamato77 (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted Xatalos (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Damdred (post) VOTE: Hapahauli voted Raynpelikoneet (raynpelikoneet) (post) VOTE: Xatalos unvoted yamato77 (post) VOTE: Xatalos voted raynpelikoneet (post) VOTE: KelsierSC voted Xatalos (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet unvoted Damdred (post) VOTE: raynpelikoneet voted Hapahauli (post) VOTE: VayneAuthority voted Damdred (post) WARNING: GlowingBear changed vote without unvote (post) VOTE: GlowingBear unvoted turtlevine (post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted rayn pelican eater (raynpelikoneet) (post) VOTE: Hapahauli unvoted raynpelikoneet (post) VOTE: Hapahauli voted Yamato (yamato77) (post) WARNING: GlowingBear changed vote without unvote (post) VOTE: GlowingBear unvoted raynpelikoneet (post) VOTE: GlowingBear voted Hapahauli (post) VOTE: Hapahauli unvoted yamato77 (post) VOTE: Onegu voted raynpelikoneet (post) VOTE: IAmRobik voted Onegu (post) | ||
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have proven this statement to be false before Xatalos even made this post... Oh yeah, I think you mentioned that you like to act as a team in the thread. Well that's really risky and prone to failure. You *should* know that I'd never do something like that from your experience with me though. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:38 Xatalos wrote: You have dodged my questions all game though. What does that make you? Besides I think I've answered everything you've asked so far. I even specifically asked you to ask me anything that is unclear to you and you didn't ask anything. On the bolded part: what is "unsmart" that makes you believe he is doing the same stunt I tried on Arnies? Also, LOL | ||
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Onegu
United States9696 Posts
On August 23 2014 23:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Listpost! Hapahauli: (1) he is not reading the thread properly or does not understand what he is reading. i understand you people do not know this makes him absolutely mafia but you needto trust me on this one. (2) his case on me is crap. so very crap. he would NEVER EVER make that case as town. (3) his read evolvement on yamato is terrible. Hapa can read yamato probably better than i can and there is no way town!Hapa, when starting to post makes a case on me, and then retrects from it to YAMATO! no way. If Hapa though yamato is mafia he would have instantly voted for yamato instead of me. Xatalos: Just says stuff that is totally unsmart. He is very very off and i have never seen Xatalos this off regardless of the game. There are very good posts to gather reads yet Xatalos fails to do anything. He has basically no reads. Also i HATE him not answering me directly to my questions... twice. I am pretty sure it makes him mafia. Onegu: Says stuff that's very unsmart and i believe him calling me mafia is a ploy to make me townread him. If he was not calling me mafia he would need to lynch Hapahauli instead. Sorry bro, saying "toobadtobescum" shit does not make me think anyone is town anymore. Damdred: He is just.. here. Not saying anything smart, +1ing everyone and just going with the flow. I don't like it. At all. yamato: I hate the fact yamato engages the thread and then fucks off.. Especially towards me. He shows interest in scumhunting but when it's actually time to say something he quits. He's already done it twice this game. VayneAuthority: Looks like his normal townplay. However he is self-aware of his meta and could be faking it. Anyways never a good D1 lynch because it's at best a crapshoot guessing game. When you engage Vayne you have to talk in a specific way and it does not work on D1. You gotta ask him about specific things and not some generic "who is scum Vayne?" questions because he hates them. Someone will probably try to mislynch him this game if he is town. GB & Turtle: Claimed masons, makes no sense for them to be mafia. JAT: If anyone thinks he is mafia they are retarded. KSC: Same as JAT. His opening is the only thing that COULD implicate he is scum but he comes from another forum and other forums play differently (and dumb). People from other places i have seen (than TL, VS and 2p2) are just usually bad and the games start slow and VERY few people are actually good at this shit. KSC seems like he is good, and tbh i would like to know where he has played mafia because there is hope that there is a fourth place where people actually know how to play mafia. Robik: I believe Robik is incapable of saying such smart things as mafia. Town for sure. Wave: I made a post about why he is town and i think i am right. Now lynch correctly. Lol rayn you know thats not how I play scum day 1. Give me a break. | ||
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IAmRobik
United States5878 Posts
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Xatalos
Finland9675 Posts
On August 24 2014 00:19 IAmRobik wrote: Wait, what?!?! Why aren't hapa and Yamato voting for rayn. They're sooooooo fucking convinced he's scum. Did something change since pg 40? Hapa isn't as convinced anymore though (because of the spam haha) and dunno what yamato is doing. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
On August 24 2014 00:15 GlowingBear wrote: On the bolded part: what is "unsmart" that makes you believe he is doing the same stunt I tried on Arnies? Also, LOL He calls me mafia without actually thinking i am mafia. It is natural for Onegu to go straight into my filter and read it first when he starts playing. I believe there are four people who should call me strong town at this point because this is my townplay and they know it. They are JAT, yamato, Hapahauli and Onegu. JAT is a bit paranoid but i will give that to him just because he hasn't really palyed with me THAT much. Hapa is mafia. yamato called me town all game, except that when i made a relevant point against him he suddenly started thinking i am mafia? w00T?!?! Onegu is either very wrong or scum. As i said i believe he is faking his shit because otherwise he would have to agree with me as he respects my play and he probably also thinks it makes me townread him. Also there is nothing smart Onegu has said. He hasn't even read anything, he hasn't even read my filter. I guarantee you that. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43268 Posts
Lynch Hapahauli, i promise you he will flip mafia. | ||
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