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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 13:08 GMT
#321
On August 22 2014 22:05 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:00 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:38 Damdred wrote:
Ok caught up and had one cup of coffee so far.

I don't really care for Xatalos reads so much, i'm just going to ignore the part of me since he always does that to me. I don't get his scummy feels vs non scummy feels. Kel is the lowest on the town scale for him but he has given some of the better material in this thread so far and seems the most likely to be towny out of the early posters and he continues to give pretty good reasoning behind his reads he is part of town I really like him right now.

Xata, have you changed your mind about ray and what you originally posted him as? Also if you give Ray a -1 for being asleep when hes usually not active on the boards shouldn't the other people who have 0s have -1 to?

I think I disagree with the GB and Wave rankings the most. GB is townish to me right now besides the awkward re-entrance to the thread and asking for summary which is just weird and seems strange.

You say wave responds to kel in a casual/towny type way? I don't see that at all, it looked like to me he waited on someone else to call him stupid and then jumped on him, and then asked the same question to multiple people and didn't draw conclusions up to that point about them instead he just left that doesn't seem very towny to me. Confused why you gave him such a strong town read

I'm just kind of null on rayn right now. I've never been good at reading him but I think my heuristic is correct: super helpful rayn = town, unhelpful rayn = null. So null. I'll believe that he was really sleeping so I don't really care about that point of suspicion anymore.

This is so bad...


It's true though.

Titanic (scum): unhelpful and aggressive
Neat & Tidy (town): unhelpful and aggressive
Arnie (town): very helpful and constructive

That's not it. You are stating the heuristic even though you yourself admit that you can't apply it yet and you are backtracking hardcore about the sleep thingy. So there is nothing to read rayn off but still you gave a scummy read on him earlier.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 13:08 GMT
#322
On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 21:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:50 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 19:22 Xatalos wrote:
GB should probably be higher than WOS btw. Just forgot to change the points while editing GB.

Like when you already give high points to your mafia partner before writing things about players?


I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

He's saying you and wos are mafia together and you gave him free town points in your chart because you were just throwing in your teammate, not really caring about where he went as long as he was somewhere at the top of town - as you were already giving a weak reasoning for him being town to begin with

Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of.

Kinda curious as to why you'd think Xat and I are both scum GB. Is it because we are the only people even slightly under the gun right now and you need to feel useful?


I think Xatalos is scum because his play in this game is different from the games I played with him. That list post doesn't fit him. His vote on damdred was awkward. His +4 points on you were awkward.

I like to feel useful
I'm adorable.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 13:08 GMT
#323
Like if there is nothing scummy why are you concerned about him?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 13:09 GMT
#324
On August 22 2014 21:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 21:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:50 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 21:47 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 22 2014 19:22 Xatalos wrote:
GB should probably be higher than WOS btw. Just forgot to change the points while editing GB.

Like when you already give high points to your mafia partner before writing things about players?


I don't understand what you're trying to say here.

He's saying you and wos are mafia together and you gave him free town points in your chart because you were just throwing in your teammate, not really caring about where he went as long as he was somewhere at the top of town - as you were already giving a weak reasoning for him being town to begin with

Which is absolutely fucking retarded, by the way. If Xat and I were both scum I can say with absolute certainty there is NO WAY IN HELL I would let him call me top town based on essentially nothing. Hell I don't think Xat would even be so bad as to try that on his own either. Scum NEVER give each other massive townreads like that. It's completely unheard of.

Kinda curious as to why you'd think Xat and I are both scum GB. Is it because we are the only people even slightly under the gun right now and you need to feel useful?


Yeah 100% true. My #1 goal as scum is to make it so that nobody can link me to the remaining scumteam.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#325
On August 22 2014 22:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if there is nothing scummy why are you concerned about him?


I'm not saying to lynch him today based on nothing concrete. It isn't wrong to be worried because he played almost exactly the same as scum last time at the start.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#326
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 13:13 GMT
#327
##Vote: Turtlevine

Come back to the topic. I don't like your 1 post goodbye ppl luv ya.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 13:16 GMT
#328
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


Are you talking about me? Asking if Xatalos is giving high points to a possible partner does not really means I believe you're scum. I'm more interested in his answer. If I'm about to affirm something, I'll use ".", not "?".
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 13:16 GMT
#329
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


I guess because my early reads are pretty weak / feeling-based. This always happens though so it should stop as the game continues. What do you think actually? You haven't commented really.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 13:17 GMT
#330
On August 22 2014 22:13 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if there is nothing scummy why are you concerned about him?


I'm not saying to lynch him today based on nothing concrete. It isn't wrong to be worried because he played almost exactly the same as scum last time at the start.

Yeah, I think we caught you trying to fabricate a read out of nothing.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 13:20 GMT
#331
On August 22 2014 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:13 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if there is nothing scummy why are you concerned about him?


I'm not saying to lynch him today based on nothing concrete. It isn't wrong to be worried because he played almost exactly the same as scum last time at the start.

Yeah, I think we caught you trying to fabricate a read out of nothing.


I'm not fabricating anything. Disagree all you want, those were my actual notes that I didn't even intend to publish at first. Then I decided to post anyway.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 13:22 GMT
#332
On August 22 2014 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


I guess because my early reads are pretty weak / feeling-based. This always happens though so it should stop as the game continues. What do you think actually? You haven't commented really.

I don't know what I think tbh. I find it really hard any scummer would give me a monster townread EVER tbh considering how every game people love to jump on me, but there were problems with your reads and it wasn't just that they were weak/feels based.
It was like you had no idea what was going on in the thread when you posted and hadn't read anything ...the last person I remember to fuck up that badly was a read I made on HF last game. As scum.
Like it's not even that I'd be expecting you to follow thread sentiment with your reads but they're really WEIRD and out of place.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 13:23 GMT
#333
On August 22 2014 22:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:13 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Like if there is nothing scummy why are you concerned about him?


I'm not saying to lynch him today based on nothing concrete. It isn't wrong to be worried because he played almost exactly the same as scum last time at the start.

Yeah, I think we caught you trying to fabricate a read out of nothing.

Aaaaand this is basically what I just said
I'm STILL cringing from my HF read
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 13:24 GMT
#334
On August 22 2014 22:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:16 Xatalos wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Like...it's pre-flip association and /slapwrists NO BAD TERRIBLE
but still
It don't fit.

Xat, why are people calling you scummy right now?


I guess because my early reads are pretty weak / feeling-based. This always happens though so it should stop as the game continues. What do you think actually? You haven't commented really.

I don't know what I think tbh. I find it really hard any scummer would give me a monster townread EVER tbh considering how every game people love to jump on me, but there were problems with your reads and it wasn't just that they were weak/feels based.
It was like you had no idea what was going on in the thread when you posted and hadn't read anything ...the last person I remember to fuck up that badly was a read I made on HF last game. As scum.
Like it's not even that I'd be expecting you to follow thread sentiment with your reads but they're really WEIRD and out of place.

It wasn't a "monster townread" - come on. What you are giving me is a monster townread.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 22 2014 13:25 GMT
#335
Why is jat supertown btw? Enlighten me.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 13:25 GMT
#336
+4 when everyone else is 1 I consider monster.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
August 22 2014 13:25 GMT
#337
On August 22 2014 22:25 Xatalos wrote:
Why is jat supertown btw? Enlighten me.

I've only explained it in like 3 posts.

Maybe JAt should explain it
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 22 2014 13:26 GMT
#338
JAT what do you think of Rayn?
I'm adorable.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16320 Posts
August 22 2014 13:28 GMT
#339
On August 22 2014 22:25 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:25 Xatalos wrote:
Why is jat supertown btw? Enlighten me.

I've only explained it in like 3 posts.

Maybe JAt should explain it

No, maybe JAT shouldn't.
Xatalos had you and GB both as +4 btw.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
August 22 2014 13:29 GMT
#340
On August 22 2014 22:05 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:04 IAmRobik wrote:
On August 22 2014 22:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Robik, are you ACTUALLY town? I didn't read the scumgames you linked lol

I'm town. I have never ever claimed town as mafia. This game is no exception.

I would be really disappointed if you became grush 2.0 man.

No clue who that is. But meta is meta and I'm not willing to break mine...yet
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