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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
August 22 2014 23:57 GMT
#961
Yamato where are you?
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
August 23 2014 00:00 GMT
#962
Glad to see your putting in the work rayn 100% better job and sheepable but I'm in a pissy mood so I'm goibg to walk away.

Also yea that post with the way the thread was going made me suspicious but I'm sure some of it is paranoia ill read your filter when i get home
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:02 GMT
#963
On August 23 2014 08:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:44 Xatalos wrote:
rayn&Hapa, care to answer to my posts?


What post? The one about me doing stupid stuff as mafia in other games? I'd rather this discussion not go too far off the rails now.


I guess that's fair. Hmmm. Well I guess neither of you can be SK at least. "Reckless" is the last word I would associate with SK play. I'm starting to think it could even be possible for both of you to be town.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:08 GMT
#964
On August 23 2014 08:24 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
you blew it up already. you're scum.


You're no fun =/


Anyway, Yamato

His lackluster day one has been touched on already.

However, how he responded to my case on Rayn brings some suspicious things to light. Firstly, this:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 06:03 yamato77 wrote:
for me to feel confident in this, I need Hapa to post more

let's go Hapa

talk to me about wave


This is very out-of-character for town Yamato. He's not a player with confidence problems. On the contrary, he's usually very self-confident in his reads and opinionated (although not very active). Any lack of posting he has in his games isn't due to lack of confidence, but generally for lack of effort.

Also, when Rayn re-enters the thread, he posts this...
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
rayn

do you think I'm mafia?


...and then is gone. Just gone. The guy who you're convinced is mafia is under pressure and returned to the thread. You have been excited for the last half-hour over this. And when he returns... one question and out.


That point about confidence isn't actually bad btw. It's not exactly encouraging that he's popping in and out either. Maybe it was premature to call him "obvtown". Still this is much better than his scumplay in PYP Handslaps.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:13 GMT
#965
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:15 GMT
#966
Well I guess you could say to that "they'd only do this as scum" but it's kind of like scum claiming Masons. Just doesn't feel realistic. Which makes the more likely option of you being scum (although Hapa kind of backed off from scumreading you).
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 00:22 GMT
#967
You guys have the timing incorrect

The thread only shifted against rayn as Hap blasted

Then Xat and Yam went full hard dick against him.

Dam maybe it only seems like the thread was against him because you and him had an argument but like it was definetly BW hopping by Xat and Yam
Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 23 2014 00:22 GMT
#968
On August 23 2014 07:33 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 07:31 KelsierSC wrote:
Also as this game has gone on I am more inclined to take Yam out of my town circle, like since Hapa came out Yam has just been a real disappointment.


Actually I think I agree with this.

##Unvote

I'm going to step back and re-evaluate. I'll need to compare how Rayn's defense stacks up to some other games, but I'm not pleased by how Yamato buddied me and fucked off.


Reading your filter while inside the taxi heading to a party I stumbled with this and I have to say this sound completely unnatural. The way you were pushing Rayn was very instensige, a post like the one you've quoted isn't enough to take anybody's attention from his top scumread. Care to explain in depth why you felt you could be wrong on Rayn?
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 00:22 GMT
#969
On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?


Why are you lying about this

I have stated many times that Rayn is town.
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:23 GMT
#970
On August 23 2014 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?


Why are you lying about this

I have stated many times that Rayn is town.


I don't even know what you're saying anymore.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 00:26 GMT
#971
On August 23 2014 09:23 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:22 KelsierSC wrote:
On August 23 2014 09:13 Xatalos wrote:
RE: [D1] Malware Madness Mafia! (yamato)
It does slightly worry me that no one else thinks that Rayn is town, but idk man, I've played many games with that Fin and I can townread him very well early on.

rayn, do you really think scum Hapa + yamato would push you D1 if you're town even though they're both apparently good at reading you?


Why are you lying about this

I have stated many times that Rayn is town.


I don't even know what you're saying anymore.


what the fuck how can that be clearer
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 00:26 GMT
#972
oh you linked something irrelevant from a previous game

sorry my mistake
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:27 GMT
#973
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 23 2014 00:28 GMT
#974
On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
So, what exactly made you change your mind about Rayn?


The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive.


Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have
I'm adorable.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
August 23 2014 00:30 GMT
#975
On August 23 2014 09:27 Xatalos wrote:
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.


can you explain in this game the effort he did apart from sheep Happ's read and post random shit
Zerg for Life
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:31 GMT
#976
On August 23 2014 09:28 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
So, what exactly made you change your mind about Rayn?


The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive.


Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have


Can you link to a game where scum rayn becomes furious at someone accusing him and goes 100% OMGUS though? Or goes into total spam mode? He did that in Neat & Tidy Mafia as town....
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 23 2014 00:32 GMT
#977
##Vote: Hapahauli

You've brought good arguments regarding Rayn being mafia, but not centr for him being mafia. You easily dropped that bit case for things Rayn does regardless alignment. I think you're scum.
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:33 GMT
#978
On August 23 2014 09:30 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:27 Xatalos wrote:
I really just don't think useless yamato is scum yamato. Like look at this:

http://www.vendetta-strada.net/showthread.php?tid=1785&pid=119817#pid119817

He's basically lynching someone because he just dislikes him. (he also said geript was scum but the stronger motive was clearly just to kill him)

And he also goes AFK for long periods of time and gets scumread by pretty much everyone but me and rayn. Still there's clearly at least some effort to do something. Unlike in the PYP game. And like in this game.


can you explain in this game the effort he did apart from sheep Happ's read and post random shit


Like this is the level of effort he shows as scum:

On March 07 2014 04:13 yamato77 wrote:
I don't have the motivation to not get lynched this game.

Whatever.


Here he's at least done *something*. Shared reads that seemed okay. Pushed rayn. Etc.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
August 23 2014 00:34 GMT
#979
On August 23 2014 09:31 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2014 09:28 GlowingBear wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 Hapahauli wrote:
On August 23 2014 08:39 yamato77 wrote:
So, what exactly made you change your mind about Rayn?


The sheer persistence of spam over the last few pages. It's quite impressive.


Dropping Rayn because he is spamming is like the worst shift of opinions someone who knows Rayn could have


Can you link to a game where scum rayn becomes furious at someone accusing him and goes 100% OMGUS though? Or goes into total spam mode? He did that in Neat & Tidy Mafia as town....


I'm on a phone, so I can't link but I can give you the directions to titanic IV. You were at that game. Rayn exploded on koshi
I'm adorable.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
August 23 2014 00:36 GMT
#980
On August 23 2014 09:32 GlowingBear wrote:
##Vote: Hapahauli

You've brought good arguments regarding Rayn being mafia, but not centr for him being mafia. You easily dropped that bit case for things Rayn does regardless alignment. I think you're scum.


Are you saying they're both scum or something >.> That sounds pretty impossible. Or that Hapa is just more scummy than rayn -> rayn town?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
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