World Heavyweight Championship mafia III

On August 01 2014 01:20 IAmRobik wrote:
LOL @ HF being below marv. As in games, as in the signup sheet.

On August 04 2014 08:31 Eden1892 wrote:
no opinion on holyflare yet

guys please do not make me the sole gatekeeper of the /towncircle
i think wooden horses r cool

On August 04 2014 08:39 Vivax wrote:
I give my voice in favour of Haru, he may enter the circle and voted for the target.

Veto on HF for being a biased dick.

On August 04 2014 08:43 Vivax wrote:


What roles should he be fishing for.

On February 08 2014 10:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Surprise surprise. I don't even think I need role PMs anymore at this point, I can just assume.

I'd like to make it known ahead of time (to those of you who weren't on voice last night) I'm not even going to attempt to read Slam. You guys can do it, and I'll sheep along.

Now, time to gather some feels.

On August 04 2014 08:50 WaveofShadow wrote:

What's similar about it?

On August 04 2014 08:57 Holyflare wrote:


the fact you feel disheartened/seemingly disappointed about getting a 'town' pm which is exactly what you did in your game as mafia and you haven't done it in your town games that i checked just now in your profile (newest town ones)


you rolled mafia didn't you ?

On August 04 2014 09:00 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

HF confirmed for not reading my filter.

On August 04 2014 08:51 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

I feel oppressed over my opinions regarding Haru replacing Robik. They're not being respected.
Also, I'm voting /agree on WoS joining. He's confirmed town.

On August 04 2014 09:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
K guardians of the galaxy time
Bbl babes

On August 04 2014 09:01 WaveofShadow wrote:

Lol
I'm always disappointed when I roll town, and you know that because of my statistics. I'm almost certain I talked to you about it extensively when we were both scum.

And you obviously haven't checked enough of my town games if you think I don't act like that. It's not going to change; I simply am one of those crazy people who likes rolling scum more than town.

On August 04 2014 09:26 HaruRH wrote:
Anyway, I am null on this read on wos.

His meta read could probably be thrown away after him not playing for months - I would certainly change a lot in 3 months.

However, that 'stiffness' in his long ass posts can definitely be seen. So its a +1 -1=0.

His meta read could probably be thrown away after him not playing for months - I would certainly change a lot in 3 months.

On August 04 2014 19:35 HaruRH wrote:


The 3 of them provided content for discussion. Pooft with his random reads, gk with his attacks and hf with his reads too. They steered the discussion into a serious one and like I said, I would not flinch if any of them 3 turned scum.

On August 04 2014 09:34 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

It is never pointless to showcase your towniness.

On August 04 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
Honestly though, Haru's filter is full of really really superficial stuff.

"I think there's mafia in the people leading discussion"
"i think this is how scum would be playing and this is how town should be playing"
"poof/eden/hf came in with their words"




it just seems really surface level and not like paying attention to the words people are saying

On August 05 2014 00:25 kushm4sta wrote:
im confident in my new list:
artanis
jat
hf
(gd)

On August 04 2014 19:19 kushm4sta wrote:
yeah that's true. hf always opens with arguments that I perceive as scummy.

On August 05 2014 00:17 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I gave my own reasoning for townreading GK unrelated to what was already posted, I'm still scumreading Obi and I've given reasoning for scumreading Haru. I've also done a bunch of meta research.

And you're like 20 percent town. At best.

On August 04 2014 09:58 Vivax wrote:
I do get scum feels from GK for some reason but I'm not really confident about it.

On August 04 2014 10:00 Holyflare wrote:
i don't at all right now, totally different approach to showdown

but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1

Plus, good luck showing that his filter has no content. It's a statement anyone can make but nobody can prove, good luck posting the nothingness you see.

On August 05 2014 01:29 marvellosity wrote:

well, I'm kinda waiting to see what happens.

and all that.

On August 05 2014 03:37 Eden1892 wrote:
meh i completely disagree but it's my opinion that this discussion is best tabled until after haru posts more. deal?

meanwhile can you talk about my wave case since it was the bulk of my post

On August 05 2014 04:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I have reasons for wanting to lynch you, but I honestly can't talk about them because of ongoing games.

On August 05 2014 04:46 marvellosity wrote:

you're actually happy with artanis ?

On August 05 2014 00:14 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Oh fuck off Marv, I've tried more than you have by now.

Btw it took me easily 25 mins to attempt to put 2 quotes from other games here due to how atrocious phone posting is. If you want a read post with substantiation, you'll need to wait.

On August 05 2014 11:57 WaveofShadow wrote:

Is this really what you're going on?
I have done this multiple times as town. Prome has done it as town. I can't give more examples because I can't remember past games anymore without searching.

Ultimately I am still scummy on Haru because in rereading I have gone through and I don't see the towny perspective being stronger than a scum-aligned one for his actions.

On August 05 2014 13:05 kushm4sta wrote:
are you phone posting or something hf? your posts are really hard to understand.

On August 05 2014 17:35 kushm4sta wrote:
hf,
just because he is scumreading some of the same people you are scumreading, that doesn't mean he's not or shouldn't be skeptical of you.
There's uncertainty and the possibility of buses that keep that from being a contradiction.

Any ideas about artanis? he is a major lynch candidate right now, and you have been silent about him.

On August 05 2014 18:59 gobbledydook wrote:
Holyflare if you missed my post:

I don't understand the exact reason why you think Artanis's later posts are mafia filler, your examples are a bit vague and unexplained. I'm a noob so explain clearly please

On August 05 2014 19:05 marvellosity wrote:

you caught him quite easily in whatever game it was. more detailed thoughts?

On August 05 2014 19:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Vivax had a very townie first half and a less townie second half.

I'm potentially open to the idea that he may be mafia though.
HF, the other stuff could be described by irl business, but this:

Are you talking about when he disagreed with you about it being mafaish?

but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1, since I experienced Haru using those numbers that make sense to nobody else to describe his reads as town previousl

On August 05 2014 20:51 kushm4sta wrote:
literally like your sentences are hard to read

On August 06 2014 04:29 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
HF do you not want to lynch haru anymore or is it just Vivax being even scummier?

On August 06 2014 06:12 kushm4sta wrote:

lol

On August 06 2014 06:24 kushm4sta wrote:


or is not the right conjunction. I choose both.

On August 06 2014 07:07 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


He read Haru. He argued with me over Haru.

I posted about how Haru's self meta stuff is bullshit and Vivax talked to me about it, and why I wasn't scumreading Marv for doing the same thing.

On August 06 2014 07:45 marvellosity wrote:

well i just dunno why he's supposed to be mafia. And yes the Vivax thing is part of it, even though i know that's not really good play.

On August 06 2014 07:51 Vivax wrote:


No it's not, it proves how bad marv really is.

On August 06 2014 18:24 marvellosity wrote:
Am I really the only one that thinks the Vivax lynch was brilliant?

Worst player getting lynched d1 and all that, eh Vivax.

On August 06 2014 19:22 Eden1892 wrote:

Hypo: You wake up 10mins before deadline and check voting thread in majority lynch. You see this shit happening. What do you do?

On August 07 2014 00:34 Onegu wrote:


Holyflare is scum. Just the way he jumps on certain things gives me feelings he is scum then either drops it of if someelse talks about he keeps going.

On August 07 2014 00:42 Onegu wrote:



See like this just rubs me the wrong way. Also makes me lean townish on WoS. Anyway more read less post from me until catch up or day post.

On August 07 2014 01:43 Onegu wrote:

Dude I'm not caught up, I feel you are nit picking things. I don't really have a strong read on poofter yet. I just pulled a quote that gave my gut a bad feeling when I saw it as I was reading. Besides how can a read on you mean I have a read on someone. First you a perfectly capable of soft bussing or even hard bussing as scum, so why are you trying to twist things to make it look like I am giving someone a town read when
I am only pointing out something that made me feel scum you said.

On August 07 2014 03:09 Onegu wrote:

No basically what you did there was say something was scummy when it wasn't, even saying 100% scummy. Then when I said you give me scum feelings for that you try and twist my words to give someone a town read because of a scum feel on you. Not point out scummy shit. How is the post I pointed out a scum tell it's not its a null tell at best, that you flip into 100% non town.

On August 07 2014 05:02 kushm4sta wrote:


So you are saying that we should town read you because you backed off Haru when he started to look town?
And what do you say to the theory that you backed off him because you thought it would look scummy to be pushing someone who looked so town?

On August 07 2014 05:08 Eden1892 wrote:
I've been sitting on it because I figured I could've found better. But I can't find something more convincing than my gut. Good enough though. Like my idol said:

"I know I got to be right now
Cause I can't get much wronger
Man I been waitin all night now
That's how long I've been on ya"

On August 07 2014 06:16 kushm4sta wrote:


You're vote was on haru up until marv changed to vivax. You are saying it's townie of you to vote vivax instead of poofter? You noticed someone in vivax play that you could misconstrue as scummy. marv gave you validation by agreeing with you. Why wouldn't you, as scum, vote vivax?

And I resent your statement about trying to get people to listen to me on reputation. I don't even have a good reputation. I have been making arguments and discussing things with people.

On August 07 2014 06:18 Eden1892 wrote:

I don't think you understand what the word "lie" means, which isn't a shock considering that you've misrepresented other people's statements throughout the game too

I've had these reservations, I just ignored them because I felt like they didn't add up. I fucking talked about this already lmao

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/463513-world-heavyweight-championship-mafia-iii?page=96#1908

Your desperation is showing

On August 07 2014 06:25 kushm4sta wrote:
ok HF how did vivax lie?

On August 07 2014 06:58 kushm4sta wrote:

um he said your push of haru was excessive, not just that one quote about the +1-1, but your entire push on haru starting with that,.

but that kind of doesn't apply in my logic where hf and gk in my opinion excessively rode on the -1 + 1,

On August 07 2014 07:04 justanothertownie wrote:

Sigh...

On August 07 2014 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:

Fine. If you are town doing this well would be a much better defense though.

On August 07 2014 07:15 Eden1892 wrote:

Lmao you realize you exaggerated the shit out of your point on Vivax to get him lynched right?

Fuck I'm gonna give you a chance to revisit that when you're on a computer. I refuse to believe you actually slipped and assume you just worded that badly because you're on your phone and typing on a phone blows.

On August 07 2014 07:04 Holyflare wrote:
Are you people being belligerent on purpose? One of the reasons i scum read vivax is that he over emphasised a 3 line post and he used it to make an argument for people being scummy or towny. He lied to make a read same better. I call him out he replied with some bs sarcastic bull shit.

Another reason is that he returned after afking for a day and continued talking about stuff from the first hour of the game.
Another reaaon ia that he never ever commented on the leading lynch wagon haru but instead attacked everyone scum reading haru (a read he made from some shitty association case or something)
Another reason is that he afkd at deadline and then gave no shits that his town read was dying and instead asked where wave was when wace aaid he'd never be around at deadline
Another reason was that he excessively buddied kush saying he was best town etc etc for scum reading an unflipped player
Another reason was him calling ppl bad and ignoring them and martyring
Another reaaon is that he called marv bad for not lynching scum before anyone had even flipped which looked like he was implying that haru was town
Another reason is that he ignored me a towny because of nothing

I would lynch him several times again so drop this shit I'm not mafia and you are wasting your time. Those reasons are not weak, not bad and not wrong. They are what i saw and what i scum read vivax for. You can continue calling my arguments weak or bad with no evidence of why they are bad and then i will lynch you.

On August 07 2014 07:20 Eden1892 wrote:
You keep calling the Vivax -1+1 thing a lie when it very obviously isn't to any charitable interpretation of what he said (and a charitable interpretation is merited, since he flipped town), that's exaggeration. You turn around and say "who exaggerates? mafia".

Do you understand what I'm saying here? I really do want to revisit the point you're trying to make here when you're at a computer and can spell it out more, because the way you put it flat-out incriminates yourself and so I'm forced to assume you don't mean what you were trying to say the way you said it.

On August 07 2014 07:45 gobbledydook wrote:

Nothing I say will convince him so why should I try? Waste of words?

On August 07 2014 08:00 kushm4sta wrote:


joke is the wrong word but basically the "ill do it for you" part.

Why would haru be more scummy if he didn't know Artanis was joking?

On August 07 2014 08:05 HaruRH wrote:


what did artanis do pregame?

On August 07 2014 11:02 Onegu wrote:
So I am awake but busy for the next few hours, but I didn't want to say anything until after day post, but I am leaning toward a marv lynch ATM. Like he hasn't done much, led a mislynch day 1, and in a game with no medics and no chance to be saved wasn't shot. This just doesn't happen with a town marv, like maybe we can give him one more day to catch scum but it's really risky if he is scum as it gives him one more mislynch and a nk. I say kill him now.

@ WoS. I pointed out my gut felt he was scum, and quoted something you and him talked about to give me feels on both of you. Then he was like oh then why did you give poofter a town read. He twisted my words to make his own agenda and defense. It's on page like 94ish, my filter is small you should see it fast in there. If you guys are against a marv lynch I would want HF

Back later with the rest of my reads.


##VOTE:Marv

On August 07 2014 18:37 Onegu wrote:



No it is you are pointing out a null tell as it is 100% scum tell. That is really shady. It wasnt the first thing that got my spidy senses tingling on you anyway. I will work on a case of the things that made me feel scum on you in a bit.

i still have a V. Bad Feeling about holyflare and want to kill him, because i still think my whole "i can't figure out who the fuck is scum so i'm probably being played by a godmode player" argument holds water and i'm positive marv is town.

On August 07 2014 22:06 marvellosity wrote:
Is anybody old enough/geeky-niche enough to remember a game called Planetarion?

On August 07 2014 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
Reasons: catch up post talking about you rofl
Scum reading you and telling me i should know it's not like you to vote early??
List posts 1
List posts 2
No elaborated reasoning as promised from list post, still has you as mafia
Returns with inactivity excuse abd says he hasn't read again
Asks for someones town reads
Afks again

On August 08 2014 02:19 WaveofShadow wrote:

No it's not HF.
It's what afk people DO most of the time when they don't have time/can't be assed to contribute properly; they contribute like shit.
How many games have you played on TL exactly that this is somehow news to you?
Can you show me examples of your 100% heuristic?

Like seriously I'll vote Poofter but it doesn't seem much better than slightly above glorified lurker to me at this point.

On August 08 2014 02:20 justanothertownie wrote:

My opinion on the catch up thing: It is not scummy in itself. It depends how it is done. If someone makes a big deal of it (every comment a new post for example) and only comments on by now irrelevant stuff then that is fucking scummy and reminds me of Darthpunk. Poofter kinda did that.