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On July 04 2014 10:33 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:27 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better. SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. The only reason you'd look stupid if he flipped red is cause you didn't try to get a read on him the old fashioned way after he claimed. You were basically very comfy letting him slide only based on his claim, regardless of his real alignment. At least I tried to check your filter for instances where you try to figure out Cav post cop-claim but I can't find them.
I explained it in one post in my filter here: (bolded and underlined the important part for your convenience) + Show Spoiler +On June 30 2014 14:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
Good news boys I'll fully caught up Yesterday's lynch was really interesting. I think flipping Cav could give us a lot of information but I'm actually on the believing his claim side of things.
Townville: Tehpoofter
Kush - Claiming vigi and actually seems to give a fuck this game, is reaching out to people in thread like myself to play up, never lynching.
Rainbows- I liked your posts midway through yesterday and today as well as your huge post in the night. My big question is why did you stay on Cav at EoD? I still don't think you'd be anywhere near my lynch list today.
Robik - Day 1 was super townie he was doing a bunch of stuff that looks scummy as fuck but from my experience with him is most likely to be town. I will say that him being scum in order surprised me so I moved him down today for a couple things in the fact that he is falling off a bit and he claimed the shot from kush before kush claimed it was his shot. Now I feel like if he thought there was only one mafia kill Palmer was less likely to be a mafia target than Koshi but still could have been a TMI slip
OO - He gets into the town because reading his posts anytime he did something I found scummy he followed it up with towniness. I even have a post where I thoguht he was scum then his next post put me at ease.
People who confuse me:
Vivax - His thing with Palmer early day 1 felt really scummy and I didn't really care for his EoD but his conversation he had with mderg mid day as well as others trying it seemed to talk to whoever about a couple of people felt less tunneled than he was being on Palmer. Maybe he just backed off staying tunneled on Palmer because I called him out or maybe he is town idk Cop check this person imo.
People that are really bad at playing cop or mafia:
Cav - If you're cop stop claiming on day 1 please lord. This feels like your newbie game when you had to claim and still got lynched. I am okay leaving you alive for now because if you're cop mafia might kill you or just spam rb and if you keep claiming rb and someone else gets rb you're basically confirmed mafia so even if you're mafia mafia is out their RB ability so town can do as they please basically.
People who need to have a date with a big fire:
Exo - This guys vote at EoD is really weird he pops in it at odd times and I feel like he doesn't know what to say. I think this is like a classic mafia tell. They know they should talk but don't know what to say. I think that him saying he got a warning for activity and talking about how things are all spammy and he needs to write down his ideas is an easy thing for scum to do. He seems upset he has to post which I don't see as townie. Also I feel like in a world where
Mderg - I always find mderg's play awkward and scummy hes in the same boat as Vivax in my opinion but I feel like vivax has done some townie things. Mderg has not his EoD was really weird I feel like he didn't really mind who got lynched. Which makes me think Cav is more town if Mderg is mafia.
Haru - Instantly comes out with the vote on Cav if it turns out Cav is mafia I feel like this is exactly what he would do. I also liked someone's point that it felt like he was going to transition from a cav red to an mderg lynch which is the kind of planning I feel like scum do more than town. I lynched him last game because of his playstyle so I'm most hesitant about this read.
I'm out for a bit playing dailymafia.
Basically Cav being alive insures us that mafia has no way of blocking roles. Because either Cav gets role blocked every night or killed as town or they can't rb others if they do then Cav has to say he checked someone and finds himself in a really shitty spot as scum. In my mind it would be a claim he can't win with as scum but I'm not going ot help scum out by freeing up their role block and getting a free lynch for them on the cop if hes real. If OO is medic and Cav was fake I'd have expected him to come out of the day knowing its lylo ready to just bury Cav instead hes bored playing his game apparently doesn't claim until like 30 hours into the game. And now it makes it hard to decide between them.
So basically you're correct I didn't mind what his alignment was I wanted to find scum outside that as I don't like playing into meta mafia (it happens a lot on video)
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On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote:
Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie?
I will once you answer some questions for me.
1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum?
2) What is the team if I'm town?
3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why?
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NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX
+ Show Spoiler +I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean?
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Rainbows/Haru/OO/Cav what do you guys think of Me and Vivax's alignment? Is there a mafia in there if so who?
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On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates.
On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game.
How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic.
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I'm not convinced there can't be 3 blues. But if accept that there are only 2 blue roles...that means either kush is a liar, cav's a liar, or OO's a liar.
Kush is presumed vigi, because nobody else has claimed it, and a vigi hasn't died. I'm inclined to believe kush. That leaves either OO or cav as mafia. I still can't imagine Cav as mafia, and while OO is a possibility it doesn't fit to me. Rainbows looks much worse in my opinion. And I still heavily think Vivax and Harurh.
I think safest lynch tonight is Harurh, but the only person I feel 100% is town is Kush.
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Unless we're having another town fake claim a la robik style
@.@
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On July 04 2014 11:08 ExO_ wrote:
Unless we're having another town fake claim a la Ritoky style
@.@
fixed that for you.
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On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic.
Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV.
Why is Exo scum?
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On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum?
No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia.
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On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia.
I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies.
I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town.
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On July 04 2014 11:21 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia. I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies. I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town.
So you know I'm not mafia?
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Poof my head hurts deciphering this.
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On July 04 2014 11:25 Rainbows wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 11:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:19 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 11:15 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 11:06 Rainbows wrote:On July 04 2014 10:44 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote:On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote:
You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote:
Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. How come me and vivax are scum together bc we think the same, but you / exo are not scum for thinking the same? Logic. Cause I know my alignment is town its obviously from my PoV. Why is Exo scum? No no you don't understand. You can't possibly make the argument that me and vivax are scumbuddies based on the logic "If they back each other / think the same, they are scum" because you have shown to be doing the same thing. If you are town, then your own logic doesn't make sense because you know you are town and have taken a side with ExO, and you would know that doesn't equal mafia. I think its also odd that you two haven't had any interaction or really suspected each other too much. The other sign of scum buddies. I agree its not the same but I have my information I know nothing of you. You could use the same on me and I wouldn't fault you for it cause you don't know I'm town. So you know I'm not mafia?
I don't know that but I assume you would take things from that point of view if you were town.
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On July 04 2014 11:26 Rainbows wrote:
Poof my head hurts deciphering this.
TLDR: You need to realize I'm Town voting me loses the game
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Rainbows who of the unconfirm do think is mafia if its not me?? You have to live in the world where I'm town who is mafia?
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You know, I've reread Haru a little and his participation cooled off so drastically lately that I'm playing with the thought I might indeed have been wrong about gutreading him town for all the weird stuff he has been saying early on.
There are also holes in some of the stuff he said D1. He called TP, kush and mderg scum for calling him scum, more or less, and then ended up only pushing mderg constantly.
On July 04 2014 10:57 Tehpoofter wrote:NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX + Show Spoiler +I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean?
Nope, overconfidence at lylo is a scumtell imo. Not so much in plurality as in instant majority. Got caught in voice mafia once cause I was too eager to push a single guy at lylo and treat the puppet as if I was super confident that he was town. It's situational but in this case I would say that Exo's confidence should at best be treated as null cause there are multiple scenarios where he can show it.
On July 04 2014 10:52 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote:
Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie? I will once you answer some questions for me. 1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum? 2) What is the team if I'm town? 3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why?
1) I've mentioned what I didn't like about you. The feeling that you were trying to keep your head low for example .The way you didn't try to figure out if Cav was town or scum based on some reasoning as to why he should be kept alive for mafia to waste roleblocks.
Even if you say mafia has to waste roleblocks on him, that's unrelated to his alignment cause they have to do it either way, and that leaves us with you not trying to figure it out over the course of the game.
2) Currently rolling with OO being medic. I have to say that the trolly way he plays the game doesn't look like I know him as scum, where he tends to write longish (and serious), kinda nervous posts but on the other hand I don't think that's how a townie should play. The scumread on me that appeared out of nowhere does however trouble me ,as do all the claims in this game except for kush's. We neither have proof that there has to be a medic in the game nor proof that there's a cop which is very much in mafia's favour. That said, I'll assume for this question that he isn't scum.
If you aren't scum then it'd be Haru/Exo/Cav by PoE.
3) As for what I said about OO, see the above.
As to why I think Cav is a good candidate for scum is a lot of the way he played D1, already explained it: Starts by playing low profile or lazy or whatever, when it gets hot he drops a massive post, then claims and stops doing anything after his claim when he should still have been super active. To me that read like scum claiming, closing his eyes to the discussion and waiting for a counterclaim if you ask me.
Just this was enough to give me the persistent strong feeling that he's scum.
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Anyway I think I'll go reread D2 to figure out what's up with Haru, I just realizedI have been too half-assed in trying to figure him out properly.
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On July 04 2014 11:49 Vivax wrote:You know, I've reread Haru a little and his participation cooled off so drastically lately that I'm playing with the thought I might indeed have been wrong about gutreading him town for all the weird stuff he has been saying early on. There are also holes in some of the stuff he said D1. He called TP, kush and mderg scum for calling him scum, more or less, and then ended up only pushing mderg constantly. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:57 Tehpoofter wrote:NO PEAKING UNTIL YOU ANSWER ME VIVAX + Show Spoiler +I'm too impatient to wait for you and work is mega slow. Exo's confidence coming out in this day has really turned me to him being town. Like I can't imagine a scumExO coming into lylo ready to do battle like this or pushing his reads or in that case misslynches so heavily. I feel like he would be one ot sit back and not say anything or at least only speak up in small enough bursts. Like ExOscum at lylo feels like the Don't get lynched type vs the find hte misslynch type. You know what I mean? Nope, overconfidence at lylo is a scumtell imo. Not so much in plurality as in instant majority. Got caught in voice mafia once cause I was too eager to push a single guy at lylo and treat the puppet as if I was super confident that he was town. It's situational but in this case I would say that Exo's confidence should at best be treated as null cause there are multiple scenarios where he can show it. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 10:52 Tehpoofter wrote:On July 04 2014 10:35 Vivax wrote:
Also can you show me exactly where your read on Exo went from superscum to supertownie? I will once you answer some questions for me. 1) Why am I the most likely one to be scum? 2) What is the team if I'm town? 3) Which between Cav/OO do you think is real and why? 1) I've mentioned what I didn't like about you. The feeling that you were trying to keep your head low for example .The way you didn't try to figure out if Cav was town or scum based on some reasoning as to why he should be kept alive for mafia to waste roleblocks. Even if you say mafia has to waste roleblocks on him, that's unrelated to his alignment cause they have to do it either way, and that leaves us with you not trying to figure it out over the course of the game. 2) Currently rolling with OO being medic. I have to say that the trolly way he plays the game doesn't look like I know him as scum, where he tends to write longish (and serious), kinda nervous posts but on the other hand I don't think that's how a townie should play. The scumread on me that appeared out of nowhere does however trouble me ,as do all the claims in this game except for kush's. We neither have proof that there has to be a medic in the game nor proof that there's a cop which is very much in mafia's favour. That said, I'll assume for this question that he isn't scum. If you aren't scum then it'd be Haru/Exo/Cav by PoE. 3) As for what I said about OO, see the above. As to why I think Cav is a good candidate for scum is a lot of the way he played D1, already explained it: Starts by playing low profile or lazy or whatever, when it gets hot he drops a massive post, then claims and stops doing anything after his claim when he should still have been super active. To me that read like scum claiming, closing his eyes to the discussion and waiting for a counterclaim if you ask me. Just this was enough to give me the persistent strong feeling that he's scum.
You're not taking into account the fact that ExO is newer to these forums. As mafia most new players play different than vets who have play lots of games. They come in confident or at least assured they know where the game has gone wrong as town. AS scum they come in timid knowing whats going wrong and they do I think like you said sometimes tunnel hard on someone knowing it leads them to victory but I get more of a confidence htat hes right and not just about todays lynch but future lynches Mafia wouldn't think like that they think for 1 day only.
The fact you can't read ExO as town makes me think you're leaving him there to reevaluate possibly swing a lynch onto if you can't get me or something as scum. bleh.
The Haru reevaluation is good. I think he has a chance of flipping scum but I'm worried its where you might go if people start realizing I'm town... why not Rainbows?
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On June 28 2014 04:07 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 28 2014 03:44 IAmRobik wrote:
calling it now for post-game sake
mafia = mdreg, haruh, sinani Something for me to laugh about at post game.
On June 28 2014 04:14 HaruRH wrote:
Obviously the list is wrong, my scum team is cava, me, sinani.
Yay for rainbows.He is definitely town for the amount of content posted, but we all know posts don't mean town.
On June 30 2014 00:52 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2014 05:23 Cavalinho wrote:
You are USA (Cop). Murica'! You're all about freedom and the only real reason you signed up to the World Cup™ was to liberate the commies (rest of the world) from their oppressive free health care and socialism. Fortunately, the government has given you access to top secret NSA spy software which enables you to determine the alignment of a suspect nation of your choice each night in order to determine whether they are on the side of freedom or not. You win when you eliminate all of the mafia. I also have a feeling that cav modified his original pm to match his claim. 'You're all about freedom and the only real reason you signed up to the World Cup™ was to liberate the commies (rest of the world) from their oppressive free health care and socialism' sounds like a flavour for scum to me. This is probably host WIFOM, but this is what I think.Or he could have just asked for a cop fakeclaim from host.
Then I see stuff like this and think to myself: Which sane scum writes this shit? It's fucking hard for scum to do such huge stretches in creativity to the point where you start doubting a guy cause of his PM flavour, at least that's my opinion. Maybe Haru just isn't the type of scum I'm used to.
Anyway, continuing.
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