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Vivax
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Rainbows
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:10 Vivax wrote: I like this game but I don't like the timing you wanna start playing it at, which is when your head approaches the noose. I have been playing. I said earlier when I work I generally have the time to play, I was on yesterday I got on today and had no votes on me at all. None. I still don't have that many I'm not even sure if I'm the one set to be lynched but I don't want ot get threre. EoD is the time I wish I could have been here more but its the time of day I actually work at work (3-4pm my time) when I get setup for the day so its hard to make it. So Like aside from what you percieve as only playing at the time when I'm getting voted on what else have I done scummy? Also is my whole team just afk? Like I don't really see anyone stepping up to say I'm town at lylo or maybe x is better than poofter or pushing other cases or anything. If I'm mafia my team is either a) going to win anyways and is sacrificing me or b)Doesn't care and shitty. Which do you think is more likely? | ||
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Vivax
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:13 Vivax wrote: Poofter do you think that Exo is town for all the confidence he's showing into me and Haru and that he doesn't let off the target to look for alternatives? Someone said it before but the way hes playing the game and using confirmation bias. He also is very stubborn on some points but lose on others. He brought up last game and wants to be more assertive it feels like. He just feels like a new townie. He feels like someone who as scum would definitely not be this confident or talking this much or fighting as much unelss you guys were partners and set it up before hand. | ||
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Vivax
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It kinda answers itself though cause evidently you don't see it as scummy. | ||
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Rainbows
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:18 Vivax wrote: You misunderstand Poofter. What I mean with timing is that you only start trying to consider that I'm town when most of the thread contrasted your opinion and called you scum. I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. | ||
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Vivax
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I will conceed that if Vivax is town I might lose the game for us and I can maybe reconsider but honestly I don't see him being town with the way he has handled Cav as well as him just in generally harping similar points repeatedly as opposed to looking in different directions. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On July 04 2014 10:15 Rainbows wrote: Cav / Poof / ExO makes incredible amounts of sense, because both poof and exo were the ones advocating that cav is probably the cop most of the game, whilst most of the town were really speculative on the issue. Also both ExO and Poof didn't vote on Cav in the day 1 lynch. Ofc this is only if cav is mafia, but out of OO / Cav if one is scum it's probably Cav. I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On July 04 2014 10:19 Vivax wrote: Anyway it would be nice to hear if you think that Exo's confidence makes him town. It kinda answers itself though cause evidently you don't see it as scummy. I do think his confidence makes him town. Confident people are normally townie scum have to seem unconfident because they might be forced to change at an instant. Like if ExO is scum with Cav like you seem to think he is calling two people that could be another PR scum hard core and will look like a dolt if they flip/claim pr. Hes painting himself into a bad corner this way. So to me confidence=townie. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:19 Rainbows wrote: Omg if exo and vivax are buddies wp wp lol jokes on you its me and vivax and hes about to come around and say I'm townier lets lynch someone else and we win. | ||
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Rainbows
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On July 04 2014 10:22 Tehpoofter wrote: I thought the theory was if Cav is real the mafia are calling him town to look better when he flips. That makes more sense to me. I find it hard to believe that Me Cav and Exo did like a super hero group thing held hands and said "TOGETHER TO TEH END" and just backed up cav the whole game. Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better. | ||
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Tehpoofter
United States2911 Posts
On July 04 2014 10:21 Vivax wrote: This is what you wrote earlier about me Poofter which is not only fundamentally wrong for the majority of the game, but is also the main trait Exo has been displaying lately by continuosly pushing me and Haru with his little speeches when he could have discussed a multitude of other things. The main difference is the player Vivax you have more experience on TL and therefore would know better than to do this as town. ExO on the otherhand would tend to do what hes doing more as town than as scum. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 04 2014 10:21 Tehpoofter wrote: I've considered it several times (when you started to come around to thinking cav was cop before then berating him more honestly I had that post where you typed for the modkill a bunch on ExO as really townie cause it seemed like a joke but I then read on and saw you were serious and think thats not the case) and I STILL DONT THINK YOU:"RE TOWN NOW. but If I'm going to be lynched town loses regardless of your alignment so if you are town reaching out to you is a good idea because in that particular circumstance maybe town can win. If you're mafia its a fruitless effort and I die and town loses but if not we have a shot. Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. | ||
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Rainbows wrote: Exactly? That's what you and exo have been doing, calling him town. Although IDK how calling cav town if he's scum makes one look any better. SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. | ||
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Rainbows
Germany1217 Posts
On July 04 2014 10:27 Tehpoofter wrote: SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. Oh i didn't see if 'cav is real'. It's a bunch of wifom anyway because we don't know Cav's actual alignment. Well, maybe you do. | ||
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Vivax
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On July 04 2014 10:27 Tehpoofter wrote: SO HOW IS THE TEAM ME EXO AND CAV THEN if me nad EXO think hes been cop the whole game. Like maybe I'm wrong maybe he is mafia nad i've been pocketed but if were mafia together gee I sure do look stupid if he flips red. The only reason you'd look stupid if he flipped red is cause you didn't try to get a read on him the old fashioned way after he claimed. You were basically very comfy letting him slide only based on his claim, regardless of his real alignment. At least I tried to check your filter for instances where you try to figure out Cav post cop-claim but I can't find them. | ||
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Vivax
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Tehpoofter
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On July 04 2014 10:25 Vivax wrote: Ok, then let's play the game. In your opinion I should probably lynch Haru, convince me why he's scum in a quick rundown of what you found scummy about him and I'll look at that. well if you're town then I think between Haru and rainbows it doesn't matter. Haru's play has been disconjointed from the thread. He almost got lynched yesterday but it was pulled off him (i was one of the ones advocating mderg so doesn't help me look townier if hes scum but still) Mafia would want to keep him aslive as long as he could. So the fact he went from a front runner to nothing without really putting up that huge of a defense and the lynch bandwagoned onto a townie doesn't look good for him. He came out after night kills day 1 and immediately started voting cav. I feel like this serves a purpose for scum regardless of Cav's alignment because he can claim "Hey I thought the cop was mafia if he flips green and maybe start a chain lynch onto Cav since he didn't kill him at night Or if cav is mafia he looks really good as the first person to start throwing doubt/votes on him and can point back to it later. (In video mafia we call this "Hipster mafia" they were thinking x was scum before it was cool) Rainbows who is the other one here if you're town and ExO is town (spoilers I think ExO is way more likely to be town) He has coasted off this day 1 town read the whole game. He is all too eager to show up on the right side of the votes basically following others around wihtout pushing his own cases very hard. Basically it seems like to me he is giving his input only when necessary. Rainbows also has been on the same side of things as you Vivax I think and your push on Haru makes me think he is likely to be partnered with you. It feels like he also hasn't had much interaction with you this game no real conversations which is typical of scum teammates. | ||
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