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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 26 2014 04:11 GMT
#6
forced to /in
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 15:17 GMT
#95
Only been insane recently
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 17:11 GMT
#108
Pre game policy poll

Poll: What do?

Press button (you know you want to) (17)
 
77%

Guard button (4)
 
18%

Deactivate button (1)
 
5%

22 total votes

Your vote: What do?

(Vote): Press button (you know you want to)
(Vote): Guard button
(Vote): Deactivate button

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 17:24 GMT
#109
Hahaha so then we must guard it!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 28 2014 18:20 GMT
#114
I will lead the knights who guard the button!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2014 15:43 GMT
#125
On March 30 2014 00:40 strongandbig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2014 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Your wish is my command Wave!

1. Keirathi - meta dude
2. Alakaslam - happytown sadscum
3. Holyflare - insane
4.Tehpoofter - new, cool
5. Koshi - not Will Smith
6. raynpelikoneet - Will Smith
7. marvellosity - we just lynch mafia or each other
8. Dandel Ion - should be ez read
9. syllogism - very good town dunno how mafia, probably not so good
10. iamperfection - obvtown or scum
11. kitaman27 - hard read tricky
12. Oatsmaster - hopefully does not do dumb stuff, if not, easy read
13. strongandbig - we will probably fight
14. VisceraEyes - porkchops!
15. austinmcc - says stuff noone understands
16. Amiko - new
17. Hopeless1der - usually looks scummy regardless of alignment i really don't know why
18. justanothertownie - obviously town if town
19. WaveofShadow - feels, bad feels if mafia
20. LSB - nearly as insane as HF, i can't understand him usually
21. Paperscraps - don't remember much
22. Killing - didn't read, hasn't played town
23. Foolishness - dunno what he does as scum, should be obvious town on D2 if town
24. VayneAuthority - not revealing my secrets i just tell his alignment at some point
25. Palmar - kind of easyish to read i hope, if he just plays
26. yamato77 - should be easy to read, lazyscum goodtown
27. IAmRobik - crazytown, dunnoscum
28. sandroba - goodtown badscum
29. gumshoe - awwwww <3
30. ?????????????


Lets try not to fight this game rayn, I don't think it's ever been productive... I will try to just let your massive waves of posting roll off my back.

Oh also this is going to be a really difficult player list to balance teams for since there are so many "good" players who only play well as one alignment (or who only play at all as one alignment). Or rather, that would be true if this were a normal game. For a normal game with this group, marvellosity would almost have to be mafia for the sake of the game not sucking. Good thing it's a greymist game so we can throw that out the window.


bro... i am the champ right now
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2014 17:26 GMT
#132
let's break a record ladies
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 29 2014 19:33 GMT
#139
this game needs a podcast
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 31 2014 14:16 GMT
#192
alignment
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 31 2014 14:16 GMT
#193
activity
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 31 2014 14:16 GMT
#194
structure
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 31 2014 14:16 GMT
#195
focus
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
March 31 2014 14:18 GMT
#196
pretty sure i rolled my normal play :o
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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Last Edited: 2014-04-01 08:06:32
March 31 2014 16:19 GMT
#230
The Button Defence League!


[image loading]


History


During the 20th-century's Cold War, the "Big Red Button" (sometimes just "The Button") referred to a device used to launch nuclear weapons. A person in charge may be referred to as "having his/her finger on The Button". The disastrous consequences of a full-out nuclear war made the Big Red Button a symbol of the annihilation of humanity. In a real world case, Soviet lieutenant colonel Stanislav Petrov figuratively avoided pressing the Red Button by correctly identifying a missile attack warning as a false alarm.



Our Aim!

Since the start of humanity our curiosity has enabled us to take great leaps across the expanse of the unknown. The discoveries of primative man, sucking on the teat of a cow which lead to the production of milk and cheese. Or the eating of bee vomit in our everyday lives. Many things have been tried, tested and learnt from but there is one thing that is ever present in the thirst for knowledge.

Danger.

From past events we know what the big button stands for. It stands for catastrophe. It stands for destruction. It stands for the annihilation of humanity. Our aim is to avoid this at all costs.

In a recent poll it was discovered that 16/21 people wished to press the button. This is unacceptable.

Poll: What do?

Press button (you know you want to) (17)
 
77%

Guard button (4)
 
18%

Deactivate button (1)
 
5%

22 total votes

Your vote: What do?

(Vote): Press button (you know you want to)
(Vote): Guard button
(Vote): Deactivate button



Here, at the Button Defence League (BDL) we strive to provide protection against the wrongdoers who wish to end us. We will guard the button with our lives. We WILL protect humankind from destruction. This is where you come in!

[image loading]


Your Job!


  • Defend the button from evil.
  • Recruit people to the cause.
  • Win the game for the BDL.
  • Bring balance to the force world.


List of Recruits

1. Holyflare
2. Balla24
3. Koshi
4. VisceraEyes
5. Paperscraps
6.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-31 17:24:54
March 31 2014 17:24 GMT
#240
Anti button defence league sounds like you want to disarm/guard the button still.

VE, you're in!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 01 2014 08:06 GMT
#280
On April 01 2014 11:23 Paperscraps wrote:
I will stand with VE in defense of the great and mighty button. Not because I like Kittens, not because it is the right thing to do, but because I like VE's beard and want to be close to it.


you have been formally accepted into the Button Defence League (BDL)!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 01 2014 08:54 GMT
#282
On April 01 2014 17:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Actually sorry Palmar; I need to out your game.
I need to go back to "lazy and don't give a fuck" for a couple of games.


scrub
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:34 GMT
#703
On April 03 2014 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I don't have chocolate chip cookies.

Do you think I actually have items to give out or not?
Also something you may want to keep in mind is I don't necessarily have to be town OR mafia in this game.


This is a super weid response to someone town reading you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:35 GMT
#705
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself


This entire post says nothing
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:40 GMT
#709
On April 03 2014 19:39 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself


This entire post says nothing

I'll make it really simple for you since you can't wrap your head around the concept: having played with Daniel before, he would purposefully make the game harder for himself by making himself type like an idiot, as mafia. Would Greymist ACTUALLY have a roll that makes you type what you're thinking 100% backwards. That's a drudging task that I don't think a host would put into a game.


It's quite obvious that greymist could do something like that and your whole post says nothing still.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:41 GMT
#710
On April 03 2014 19:40 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
.early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I

.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself


This entire post says nothing

You're not even the champ anymore, you can't talk to me like this


Number 1 power rank > champ
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:44 GMT
#714
Why is writing backwards mafia indicative? Why can't he do that as a town faking a power role?

Why jump to scum conclusion straight away?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:49 GMT
#723
On April 03 2014 19:46 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 19:44 Holyflare wrote:
Why is writing backwards mafia indicative? Why can't he do that as a town faking a power role?

Why jump to scum conclusion straight away?

I'm not JUMPING to any conclusion. I'm making a statement about Daniel/Paperscraps that non-DM people would probably not know about him. I'm not sure why you wouldn't find that an interesting tidbit about a player you've probably never played with and take that into consideration rather than just grilling me about it.


No that's the point. You wrote all that to say it's bullshit and have no conclusion. It's either bullshit because he's mafia or not bull shit because he's got that role.

So why did you say it's bullshit
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 10:53 GMT
#730
You're mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:08 GMT
#743
On April 03 2014 19:59 IAmRobik wrote:
The fact that some of you have played games with me and actually think that this is my mafia play is absolutely laughable. Please build a case against me if you're going to keep calling me mafia. Remember, based off of "TL superiority logic," it's scummy to call someone mafia without making a 30 page post about it.


Tone read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:11 GMT
#746
Question for everyone! What tl mafia game had the most fun mechanic?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:21 GMT
#750
Your tone is angry. Mafia get angry when they are read as mafia. You are mafia. Case closed.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:23 GMT
#754
On April 03 2014 20:22 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 20:21 Holyflare wrote:
Your tone is angry. Mafia get angry when they are read as mafia. You are mafia. Case closed.

I get much angrier as town when I am read as mafia than as mafia. What now?


I read robik as mafia last game because of some lies and smiley thing and he just explained it to me. Here i have called him mafia for "tone" and instead just rages and doesn't attack the argument but rather the players.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:25 GMT
#760
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 11:29 GMT
#767
On April 03 2014 20:28 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!

All time?


Yeh in any tl mafia game ever.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 12:36 GMT
#788
On April 03 2014 21:33 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 20:25 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
Holy, we're the bosses of this town.


Let's win then!

Tell me what the most fun tl game mechanic was!

How does that help win the game?


What is the most fun tl mafia game mechanic jat?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 12:38 GMT
#790
On April 03 2014 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I know the answer! Scooby-doo!


That wasn't a game mechanic though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 13:01 GMT
#822
On April 03 2014 19:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 16:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well I don't have chocolate chip cookies.

Do you think I actually have items to give out or not?
Also something you may want to keep in mind is I don't necessarily have to be town OR mafia in this game.


This is a super weid response to someone town reading you


Why you say it like this wave?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:05 GMT
#869
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:07 GMT
#879
On April 03 2014 23:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
JESUS WHATS A GUY GOTTA DO TO GET ON A TOWNIE LIST UP IN THIS BITCH?!?!

Like at first I was like "Meh Palmar thinks I'm scum whatever" when I was catching up but seriously NO ONE thinks I'm town?! What a ripoff. Should we just start voting for me now and get it over with?


I thought you were town but then you wanted to press the button and you became scum!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:11 GMT
#889
On April 03 2014 23:07 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:05 Holyflare wrote:
Defending himself hard instead of finding town/scum. Noted.

The fact that you're allying yourself with the person in the thread being the most disruptive and making the least sense should make you think twice. I don't know what you're doing, Holy.


The fact that you think it's weird that i open in a trollish nature in a game to antagonise a player is weird marv. Why are you so weird?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:43 GMT
#948
On April 03 2014 23:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Balla read:

This is a weird opening post. Neither Rayn nor I were really going after each other, besides rayn trying to blow me up.
On April 03 2014 09:24 Balla24 wrote:
##SPLIT ROBIK AND RAYNPELIKONEET UP BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT


Then he does RL
Then he posts the person that he randed
Then he posts:
On April 03 2014 11:27 Balla24 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:25 sandroba wrote:
I think we are moving along just fine balla, any reason why you think that's a particulary good idea or did you decide you were going to open up like this before the game?


No reason to take sides, if we have to lynch someone might as well be fair! This way everyone has an equal chance to be lynched! Woo ^_^

(I did not decide I was going to open like this pre-game)


Which, if we're taking into account his pre-game "roll", would fit that style of play


Then this post, which also fits that meta:
On April 03 2014 11:36 Balla24 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:32 sandroba wrote:
Balla why is it interesting or beneficial for a lynch to be fair?


I did not claim this to be the case. Being fair is always nice though, for the people of course. What is interesting is not the fairness of the lynch but the attempts to make the lynch unfair.


Then wagon of justice.

All in all, I would think he was scummy, but taking into account pregame, I would hold off judgement temporarily to see how he plays moving forward

This is a lot of words and apparently a lot of effort to say nothing new.


Much like his initial few posts.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:50 GMT
#957
On April 03 2014 23:49 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:40 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Balla read:

This is a weird opening post. Neither Rayn nor I were really going after each other, besides rayn trying to blow me up.
On April 03 2014 09:24 Balla24 wrote:
##SPLIT ROBIK AND RAYNPELIKONEET UP BEFORE SOMEONE GETS HURT


Then he does RL
Then he posts the person that he randed
Then he posts:
On April 03 2014 11:27 Balla24 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:25 sandroba wrote:
I think we are moving along just fine balla, any reason why you think that's a particulary good idea or did you decide you were going to open up like this before the game?


No reason to take sides, if we have to lynch someone might as well be fair! This way everyone has an equal chance to be lynched! Woo ^_^

(I did not decide I was going to open like this pre-game)


Which, if we're taking into account his pre-game "roll", would fit that style of play


Then this post, which also fits that meta:
On April 03 2014 11:36 Balla24 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:32 sandroba wrote:
Balla why is it interesting or beneficial for a lynch to be fair?


I did not claim this to be the case. Being fair is always nice though, for the people of course. What is interesting is not the fairness of the lynch but the attempts to make the lynch unfair.


Then wagon of justice.

All in all, I would think he was scummy, but taking into account pregame, I would hold off judgement temporarily to see how he plays moving forward

This is a lot of words and apparently a lot of effort to say nothing new.


Much like his initial few posts.


Still in the corner cutting myself. Haven't stopped since you last insulted me in World Heavyweight when I called out both mafia on d1 while you wasted your time tunneling on town!rayn.


Had my vote on scum both times bro.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:52 GMT
#961
And they aren't insults it's construtive. You keep targeting people in this game to come to no conclusion whatsoever. What's the point of that?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:53 GMT
#963
On April 03 2014 23:52 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 23:52 Holyflare wrote:
And they aren't insults it's construtive. You keep targeting people in this game to come to no conclusion whatsoever. What's the point of that?

do you seriously think Robik is mafia??


No i actually think you are though
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:55 GMT
#966
On April 03 2014 23:53 marvellosity wrote:
then why are you questioning him repeatedly over stuff that's not going to lead anywhere? it's so pointless.


Because i like trolling people that rage if that wasn't evident in like the past 4 games.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 14:59 GMT
#974
On April 03 2014 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
You're better than that HF.

Am i?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 15:07 GMT
#984
Anyone else want to input on what their favourite tl mafia game mechanic was?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 15:08 GMT
#989
On April 04 2014 00:08 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone else want to input on what their favourite tl mafia game mechanic was?

You call me out for not scumhunting and just yelling or some bullshit and all you're doing is talking about favorite mechanic. Pot. Kettle. Do something


No
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 15:09 GMT
#992
What about personality mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 03 2014 15:15 GMT
#1000
On April 04 2014 00:14 iamperfection wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:07 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone else want to input on what their favourite tl mafia game mechanic was?

The tl mafia world heavyweight championship belt.


Oh shit this actually gives me a great idea!
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:28 GMT
#1028
On April 04 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

Why are you bothering to post if you arent gonna play the game??
Like you just put up this super speculative power claim and you dont have a reason beyond why not?


You think he's lying about his role?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:31 GMT
#1035
On April 04 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

Why are you bothering to post if you arent gonna play the game??
Like you just put up this super speculative power claim and you dont have a reason beyond why not?


You think he's lying about his role?

No, that would be beyond stupid.

I think he is claiming to look like hes contributing and sharing knowledge and all that shit but he isnt actually contributing to finding scum which is way more important than power role usage.


What knowledge is he sharing other than sparing people looking at him and wasting time?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:34 GMT
#1043
On April 04 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:32 Keirathi wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

Why are you bothering to post if you arent gonna play the game??
Like you just put up this super speculative power claim and you dont have a reason beyond why not?


You think he's lying about his role?

No, that would be beyond stupid.

I think he is claiming to look like hes contributing and sharing knowledge and all that shit but he isnt actually contributing to finding scum which is way more important than power role usage.

If you don't think he's lying about his role, then 2 questions:

What is the point of that role as mafia?

And 2, why would mafia claim it?

Town probably has KP. 3P has kp. Why not?
He claims it because he thinks he will look townier for claiming it. ARE YOU GUYS NOT READING????



If he was scum he wouldn't need to know the kp of other factions because he can count...?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:36 GMT
#1050
On April 04 2014 00:35 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:32 Keirathi wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:28 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:25 kitaman27 wrote:
GreYMisT manipulated me into joining two games at once against my will. Going to focus on the other game until the lynch deadline which is relatively early and then catch up on this one tonight.

On a side note, I don't anticipate using this power unless something thinks of a good application so I might as well share it. I can learn the number of kp used during the night at the expense of increasing the radiation level. I'm not really sure what that does, but that power doesn't seem useful enough to warrant finding out. It does probably mean that there will be a ton of kp floating around though.

Why are you bothering to post if you arent gonna play the game??
Like you just put up this super speculative power claim and you dont have a reason beyond why not?


You think he's lying about his role?

No, that would be beyond stupid.

I think he is claiming to look like hes contributing and sharing knowledge and all that shit but he isnt actually contributing to finding scum which is way more important than power role usage.

If you don't think he's lying about his role, then 2 questions:

What is the point of that role as mafia?

And 2, why would mafia claim it?

Town probably has KP. 3P has kp. Why not?
He claims it because he thinks he will look townier for claiming it. ARE YOU GUYS NOT READING????



If he was scum he wouldn't need to know the kp of other factions because he can count...?


Debatable.


Not if you are town. Are you going to claim town?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:38 GMT
#1054
Oh :p
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:41 GMT
#1058
On April 04 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Very meh on that dandel.

yeah i know i dont expect him to be lynched to day

i do it all for the i-told-you-so cred points.


Why is your vote on him then?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:47 GMT
#1064
On April 04 2014 00:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Very meh on that dandel.

yeah i know i dont expect him to be lynched to day

i do it all for the i-told-you-so cred points.


Why is your vote on him then?

a very good and astute question

maybe you should ask it again.

Why is your vote on him then?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 15:52 GMT
#1069
On April 04 2014 00:49 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:33 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:30 iamperfection wrote:
Very meh on that dandel.

yeah i know i dont expect him to be lynched to day

i do it all for the i-told-you-so cred points.


Why is your vote on him then?

a very good and astute question

maybe you should ask it again.

Why is your vote on him then?

iamp meant the oats stuff, not kita.

that you were supposed to ask it again meant that i wanted you to read it again and realize your folly.


So you're sticking to the policy lynch then?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 16:04 GMT
#1080
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
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On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


On April 03 2014 12:07 yamato77 wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also robik rage voting dandel and then voting for iamp unexplained also feels bad, not noob bad but scum bad.
Like hes faking the rage against dandel right so he votes for him, then he feels like maybe he can get more support for an iamp lynch and is just testing the waters with his vote. Townies always have a reason for voting someone and its so early in the game it cant really be a trap or anything. Robik you gotta explain yourself.

that seems like a reach

why?

Do you really think a mafia player thinks he can get a lynch on iamp going with a vote at that time?

It's a serious reach to suggest so.

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On April 03 2014 12:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


Do you think he's incapable of playing into his own meta? What has he contributed so far in comparison to how much effort it looks like he's spent?

Why do you think Rayn is scum?


I don't care about Dandel atm whatsoever.

I have my reasons for pursuing the Rayn read.


Let's kill yamato. He wants to kill dandel and then says he won't talk to dandel if robik is around and then wants nothing to do with dandel. All while doing nothing other than some secret plan with rayn.
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 16:07 GMT
#1086
On April 04 2014 01:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


On April 03 2014 12:07 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also robik rage voting dandel and then voting for iamp unexplained also feels bad, not noob bad but scum bad.
Like hes faking the rage against dandel right so he votes for him, then he feels like maybe he can get more support for an iamp lynch and is just testing the waters with his vote. Townies always have a reason for voting someone and its so early in the game it cant really be a trap or anything. Robik you gotta explain yourself.

that seems like a reach

why?

Do you really think a mafia player thinks he can get a lynch on iamp going with a vote at that time?

It's a serious reach to suggest so.

On April 03 2014 12:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


Do you think he's incapable of playing into his own meta? What has he contributed so far in comparison to how much effort it looks like he's spent?

Why do you think Rayn is scum?


I don't care about Dandel atm whatsoever.

I have my reasons for pursuing the Rayn read.


Let's kill yamato. He wants to kill dandel and then says he won't talk to dandel if robik is around and then wants nothing to do with dandel. All while doing nothing other than some secret plan with rayn.

Let's not. At least yet.
Let's kill austin. Why is my case bad?


I read it. Thought meh, maybe. Then kept playing. I.e i want to see the rest of what he does
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 16:08 GMT
#1089
On April 04 2014 01:07 Dandel Ion wrote:
Although you could have added his repeated attempts of shitting on town atmosphere, which is all that he really does as scum.

That implies i re-read the thread at the time of his posts.
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 16:49 GMT
#1161
Dandel why aren't you voting yamato after calling him obvious scum and game is ez?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 16:57 GMT
#1165
On April 04 2014 01:53 yamato77 wrote:
Holy, why are you voting me? I got to 41 before I skipped to the end, haven't seen it yet.

Saying you want to kill dandel and then not wanting to interact and talk about dandel. And some game plan about rayn vote.
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:09 GMT
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On April 04 2014 02:07 austinmcc wrote:
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On April 03 2014 14:57 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

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On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

Yay!
Hi austin!
Want an item?
Unknown, ask later. If I get to select an item and what it does, chances improve.

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On April 03 2014 16:26 Tehpoofter wrote:
I still like Oats. who is good at reading him?
I have had good luck, but it's not a D1 thing and I need to chat directly with him to peer into his soul. DI's stuff on oats is meh.

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On April 03 2014 19:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 19:34 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote:
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.unusual play his find I ,about talked be not need that bond special a shard we Although .warranted t'wasn really it when ,me defended also He .awkward is it press to wanting to ,button the defending from switch His .game this scum be could VisceraEyes

.do can item the what on updated all you keep will I .ways uncontrollable and weird in affected being is speech my that is it having to downside The .power great of item an found have I ,searching my In

I fucking hate you Daniel.

For those of you having trouble reading this post, I'm pretty sure that the whole thing needs to be read from the bottom up and from right to left (obv), otherwise the context doesn't make sense.

I'd also like to mention, that I think Daniel posting like this is absolute bullshit, but you TL people would probably have a better handle of whether Greymist would make someone go through all this effort of typing in reverse. That's really fucking hard to do and I'm not sure that that would actually be a game mechanic, but knowing Daniel, that's something that he'd do to make the game more fun/interesting/difficult for himself


This entire post says nothing
I didn't like this response because I actually didn't realize Paper had posted in reverse. Saying "hey, someone posted a thing that was unreadable but it was really a post and here's how you read it" is helpful. I can't have been the only person who had no idea what was going on in paperscraps's post except to check his odd .s to see if he was crumbing something.

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On April 03 2014 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 14:23 austinmcc wrote:
Hello, friends! I believe you'll find that I am currently Quetzacoatl, Bird God of Lightning and Other Things I Decide to be God Over. You can find my credentials elsewhere.

yamato's bit on rayn not making townreads 5 minutes in reads like yamato town, silly thing to say if scum, and not in a good-silly way. Carefree comment, nonsense read based on nonsense reads, town. Especially since rayn thinks/thought that yamato might be mafia for being serious, yamato super town.

keirathi hello! + Show Spoiler +
On April 03 2014 10:11 Keirathi wrote:
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On April 03 2014 10:09 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
iamp i don't really think townreading people because of their reaction to obvious joke post was as easy comment is legit.

Uh ok. I use it a ton and I don't really get burned by it. Not really worried about it anyway as Yamato is super easy to read. But lets not try and give iamp advice he kind of knows what he is doing.

But do you know how to bake a pretty cake?
I believe it's a piece of cake, if the way is hazy. I was once told that I had to "do the cooking by the book" and also ordered to "break it down bitch ... drop dat ass down low then pick that muthafucka up"


gumshoe remarkably overzealous.

everything else when skimmed does nothing for me or my pee-pee.

red part: nono. yamato would try to read me as town but he would also "try to read me" as scum. either a lie or a very lazy comment
green part: another good one, or rather.. bad one. yamato's read or "read" is not nonsense. my reads are definitely not nonsense because i already said i am srs. so austin are you calling me a liar? or are you making the same lazy "didn't read properly, didn't think for a second and i admit it, but anyways i am taking a stance" opening post you made in last game?
blue part: how does me thinking yamato is serious make yamato more town? this makes no sense.

best lynch 2014.
Unsure if this is serious or rayn trying to make a smelly case on me to make me think he's town. If the latter, it's not 100% effective. Green bit is super legit, carefree posting and stupid reads in this manner are a townie thing. Blue bit is that rayn's early game reads are often terrible, despite the fact that SOMETIMES they work out. This just stuck out to me as "lol rayn is wrong and he's wrong in a way that means yamato is town." If rayn is town, it's a bad early read and fits rayn making bad early reads on town. If rayn is mafia, nobody cares about his early yamato read, so there's no reason to call a scumbuddy mafia in this way, so he'd only be calling town yamato scum in this way, so yamato super town no matter rayn's alignment. #getsquawkt

My paragraph was not poo-poo. marv is wrong.


This is a terrible post because poofter? already explained the backwards thing and then robik did the same thing. Eg his post said nothing of value. If you read the thread I'd expect you to see that so it's extremely odd that your return mentions that.
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:20 GMT
#1211
On April 04 2014 02:18 IAmRobik wrote:
Is there a "theme" to this game? I'd like to look to see how I can soft my role


It will be tomorrow
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:24 GMT
#1217
On April 04 2014 02:22 Palmar wrote:
Does everyone have a job?

Please claim your job in the thread.

I know robik is grammar police. rest I don't know.


Antagonistic dictator of game
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:26 GMT
#1220
On April 04 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv why did you do a weird catch up post instead of normal marv ketchup?


Cz ya know, he's mafia. Game dictator and admin palmar made that clear.
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:27 GMT
#1222
Let's lynch bh
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:32 GMT
#1225
On April 04 2014 02:29 Koshi wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:41 Palmar wrote:
On April 04 2014 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 03 2014 20:31 Koshi wrote:
I am currently on page 16 and there is a giant cat holding a taxi. I will be looking at that picture for the next 5 hours. Then I will be able to read the thread.

Koshi 5h is up! Hypnosis is over!

scumpile.

I didn't say I would post in 5 hours. I said I would read thread. I am reading thread.


Unscumpile this guy
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:35 GMT
#1229
On April 04 2014 02:34 Palmar wrote:
austinmcc scumpile


You need to switch rayn out in that case
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 17:37 GMT
#1233
On April 04 2014 02:36 Palmar wrote:
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On April 04 2014 02:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 02:34 Palmar wrote:
austinmcc scumpile


You need to switch rayn out in that case

why?

You think scumpile rayn is super bussing scumpile austin then?
Holyflare
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April 03 2014 18:20 GMT
#1295
I already said that! I think dandel bad too will explain later!
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:36 GMT
#1784
On April 04 2014 17:01 Koshi wrote:
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On April 04 2014 16:59 syllogism wrote:
On April 04 2014 16:54 Koshi wrote:
Should I kill marv.

No. Even if you suspect him, he is someone whose alignment will be abundantly clear after, at the latest, a few night of flips.

To me it is quite clear already.


i'm with you bro
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:43 GMT
#1791
marv is sheeping sandro on a me lynch, someone he didn't want to lynch straight away in the past few games, someone who can obviously be read as town if i post more because what? i was trolling around with palmar?

i've openly trolled the start of almost all of the past few games and marv knows that but only in this game has marv even bothered to comment about it and used it against me! he neglects to read anything else i've said too and only brings me up again when someone shows interest in my lynch
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:45 GMT
#1793
this is increasingly more odd when palmar is in the SAME boat as me, yet actively trolling EVEN MORE and has marv in his scum pile yet it's perfectly ok for marv to not even bother thinking about palmar till later
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1797
I also mentioned something about dandel yesterday before I left, his stance on yamato is that yamato is super scum but he shows no initiative or drive to even portray this to the thread other than +1ing people that go against yamato.

On April 03 2014 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
yamato hard confirmed mafia, 100% accurate pro read.

(probably a joke but not joke)
On April 03 2014 09:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 03 2014 09:54 iamperfection wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:53 Dandel Ion wrote:
yamato hard confirmed mafia, 100% accurate pro read.

Why

Because he's being disruptive.

Which means he's scum.

ez game ez life.



Like how it is part of why yamato is scum, but doesn't make iamp scum. It is in no way treated as the sole crux of reading.

On April 04 2014 01:06 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:04 Holyflare wrote:
On April 03 2014 09:51 yamato77 wrote:
Dandel's post makes me want to kill him, too.

Rayn's reads are shitty because there's no reason to go "YEP HE'S TOWN" 5 minutes into the game unless you're mafia trying to make friends.

On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


On April 03 2014 12:07 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:01 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
Also robik rage voting dandel and then voting for iamp unexplained also feels bad, not noob bad but scum bad.
Like hes faking the rage against dandel right so he votes for him, then he feels like maybe he can get more support for an iamp lynch and is just testing the waters with his vote. Townies always have a reason for voting someone and its so early in the game it cant really be a trap or anything. Robik you gotta explain yourself.

that seems like a reach

why?

Do you really think a mafia player thinks he can get a lynch on iamp going with a vote at that time?

It's a serious reach to suggest so.

On April 03 2014 12:02 gumshoe wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:57 yamato77 wrote:
On April 03 2014 11:37 gumshoe wrote:
I dont like how theres not a single real scum read in dandel ions whole thing / : it's all just policy lynch suggestions and uncalled for slander. Why put such a huge effort into something so pointless? You know, unless hes hoping scum impale themselves on the branches of his not for reals tree... Maybe hes deliberately playing into our idea of Dandel Ion? It definitly doesnt look like hes scum hunting. In fact he even confirms that the primary goal of his posting tonight was to get a green check from town
.
I'm already confirmed town anyway so my job here is done.

Does that not seem iffy?


for the record, this is about what one expects from Dandel anyway

not that interested in him


Do you think he's incapable of playing into his own meta? What has he contributed so far in comparison to how much effort it looks like he's spent?

Why do you think Rayn is scum?


I don't care about Dandel atm whatsoever.

I have my reasons for pursuing the Rayn read.


Let's kill yamato. He wants to kill dandel and then says he won't talk to dandel if robik is around and then wants nothing to do with dandel. All while doing nothing other than some secret plan with rayn.

You sir are both town and correct.

On April 04 2014 02:00 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 01:49 Holyflare wrote:
Dandel why aren't you voting yamato after calling him obvious scum and game is ez?

because kitaman is still the best lynch and it really doesnt matter where my vote is atm

(why is kita whose alignment you can't be sure of a better lynch than someone you think is obvious scum?)

On April 04 2014 10:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
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On April 04 2014 10:47 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:44 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:39 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:31 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:29 WaveofShadow wrote:
On April 04 2014 10:27 marvellosity wrote:
sorry Wave, I gave the *actual* reasons that Dandel was town. Terrible I know.

Next time I'll be sure to invent kooky reasons to keep you happy.

That's not what I mean.
I mean often, considering you're better than me at this game and whatnot (/egostroke), you come up with differing (and often better) reasons why someone is of a certain alignment than I do, or come up with something that opens my eyes. A revelation if you will.

Haven't gotten much of that from you this game, that's all. It just means your reasoning for Dandel's towniness isn't alignment indicative to me in your case.

What do you expect it's not like I'm hard to read or it takes effort or anything like that...

Eh, I figure one of these days mebbe you'll do something as scum.
How many people jumped on you for that first post of yours though?

three I think, but I don't see how that's relevant.

I just randomly thought about it. Who were those people? You don't think it's relevant if people attacked you for your obvious whatever-it-was post?

On April 04 2014 10:33 marvellosity wrote:
you'd hate my spreadsheet Wave. It's so superficial. It does, however, contain the words "fuck", "ass", "weirdo", and "bathtub"

You know very well that doesn't sound like something I'd hate.
In fact, now I think I'd like a sample. How about 'weirdo,' and 'bathtub?'

yamato, iamp and gumshoe are the ones I remember.

I don't count robik because he attacked me personally without reading the post.

Well it can be relevant to some things, like their alignment, but not in this context of the current topic, no.

Do you still think yamato is scum?
I would say his current level of activity belies how he used to be more likely as scum, but he's been pretty idgaf in all his games recently. Plus there's that thing he had going with rayn, whatever that was, and I'm pretty sure rayn is going to flip green. And I can never tell wtf plans rayn tries to pull so it kinda sucks he's gone now and can't explain shit to me.

Yeah he has done absolutely nothing to make me even consider reconsidering my read on him, so he's still scum.

(only responds about his scum read when asked)




tl:dr he has yamato as a really big scum read but shows no interest in developing it, interacting with his scum read or pushing his scum read at any point in the game. He only mentions it to +1 people or to answer when asked and he does not think a vote on yamato is apt at this time but still votes for kita.

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:54 GMT
#1801
On April 04 2014 17:53 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare bro. I can kill the marv. But in the most antitown way possible.


dont dayvig bro :D
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April 04 2014 08:58 GMT
#1806
On April 04 2014 17:56 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 17:43 Holyflare wrote:
marv is sheeping sandro on a me lynch, someone he didn't want to lynch straight away in the past few games, someone who can obviously be read as town if i post more because what? i was trolling around with palmar?

i've openly trolled the start of almost all of the past few games and marv knows that but only in this game has marv even bothered to comment about it and used it against me! he neglects to read anything else i've said too and only brings me up again when someone shows interest in my lynch

The very simple fact is that it feels totally different, hence why I brought it up more than once. That's on you, not me.


i quite clearly dropped it and put out a read on yamato which you haven't even brought up at all, instead you don't question anything to do with me and decide to sheep sandro when you know that isn't how i play any alignment
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 08:58 GMT
#1807
and no your reason was "you will listen to reason more than palmar" not that it felt different or anything
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April 04 2014 09:29 GMT
#1818
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.



everyone: "marv is really different this game"
marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why"
marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy"
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 09:31 GMT
#1822
On April 04 2014 18:27 marvellosity wrote:
syllogism: can you pitch your austin thing to me in full please? It's actually not rare for austin at all to kinda bumble through day 1 pointlessly as town either, and I have suspected him for it 100 times in the past. What else?


it's somewhat similar to what vivax did but not really

austin comes in and says people are playing how they usually play, syllo asks like what, austin says things that happen throughout the game rather than what happened when he arrived

that's as far is a got
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 09:31 GMT
#1824
On April 04 2014 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.



everyone: "marv is really different this game"
marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why"
marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy"

that's not why koshi called me mafia.

koshi called me mafia because i have a big filter and i cannot have a big filter as mafia therefore i am mafia.


yes but i did not and i only called you mafia at the start because you were different so picking me over koshi was super weird
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 09:37 GMT
#1830
On April 04 2014 18:32 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 18:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:30 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:29 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:21 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 18:10 Koshi wrote:
If we are both town this kinda sucks but let's be honest. We haven't been in this situation at all in every game we played.

I blame you for this.

Well, Holy, if you aren't mafia this dude likely is.

I can't believe everyone has gone full-retard, it's just hard to pick which one.



everyone: "marv is really different this game"
marv: "i'm not emotionally invested so that's why"
marv: "but you totes shoulda known that so people who called me scum are scummy"

that's not why koshi called me mafia.

koshi called me mafia because i have a big filter and i cannot have a big filter as mafia therefore i am mafia.


yes but i did not and i only called you mafia at the start because you were different so picking me over koshi was super weird

It isn't weird at all, and you're both scummy, and what sandroba said was correct, and I've already explained this morning how i obviously felt your posting was worse than usual as i brought it up a couple of times yesterday already. pls read.


no the sandroba case is shit, like legitimately terrible, he gives reasons why i'm NOT mafia while calling me mafia

On April 04 2014 10:10 sandroba wrote:
Besides the palmar thing, his "reads" are for the most part opposite of mine and he is supposed to be good at this game. Also he has done nothing other than spam one liners with apparently very little thought put into them. It may be somehow minor, but I remember him being quite proud of his mafia playing abilities and his comment downplaying himself with oats seems like scum behavior to me.


In the red he says i am playing like shit and posting 1 liners, in the green he says i am proud of my mafia playing abilities. In what world do those 2 things add up together? He either mentions I'm a proud mafia player as a defence for me being town in this game or he doesn't add it at all.

Not to mention, he questions the robik read me and palmar have but doesn't even mention that I said robik is town. At all.

So no marv, I have read and it is terrible. So quit the "god i'm so good cz i sheeped sandro" act and actually read what he wrote before saying it was good.

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 09:59 GMT
#1837
On April 04 2014 18:38 marvellosity wrote:
Find me mafia then, Holy.

hint: yamato is not it


well duh, reads evolving... that's kinda the point of you know, this game! He didn't post much at all when i pulled out those posts from him and now he has ~_~


why did you make such a fuss about paperscraps 1 liners and sheeping palmar's 1 liners but then unvote him and vote me? seems solid to me, not to mention he makes reads that are generally very unqualified.

He makes statements that sandroba is town and level headed but does not mention anything that sandroba is saying or agree with any of sandroba's points

On April 04 2014 10:46 Paperscraps wrote:
.accurate too not probably so ,baseline a as meta mafia video using is This .neutral are far so posts his ,Tehpoofter reading scum anyone for Also

.moment the at reprieve a warrant to Enough .genuine somewhat seemed me against attack his but ,forum a on "heated" or "mad" being fake to easier is it know I .now for BlazingHand off back all can We

.him by posts more to forward Looking .game this individual headed level ,smart a like seems Sandroba


If he thought sandroba was smart, why would he not be commenting on sandroba's vote on me? Or anything sandroba has said at all?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:12 GMT
#1839
On April 04 2014 19:04 marvellosity wrote:
Because you called me mafia, all your reads have been bad, and what I've already explained about how you were stoking the fires way more than necessary.

We've been through this, there's little point asking me the same question over and over.

Re: Paperscraps: Do you agree/disagree with this?
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On April 04 2014 10:02 sandroba wrote:
Alright I'm willing to roll with that. Paperscraps is likely non mafia because doing random shit like typing backwards is not a mafia tell and he voluntarily disclosed information about him and VE being somehow connect and still being suspicious of VE which is a town tell. Also his filter is one page, let the dude play some more freely before we wagon up on him and he becomes all defensive and now you can't tell shit about his alignment.
There are probably better people to focus who have a larger filter but I haven't started filter diving yet. Do you have any ideas on who to start with?

Also I'd like Robik + whoever else knows Paperscraps to talk about him a little; both sandroba and syllogism indicated that Paper roleplaying this stuff (or continuing to do so) is unnecessary as mafia, but Robik said it's the kinda shizzle maf-Paperscaps would do. Obviously this is fairly major sticking point.


i was clearly messing around at the start to antagonise robik, which i already said ~_~

either way, I do agree that paperscraps revealing his qt with VE and still calling him scummy is +town points and I actually wanted to talk about VE.

I think it was gumshoe? that raised the point that VA claimed VE's role and VE passed it off as a joke but then VE came into the thread and scum read VA for his little activity in thread but more in qt and the role thing. Which is really weird seeing as VA already addressed that both in thread and seemingly in qt

On April 04 2014 07:50 VayneAuthority wrote:
How do people feel about killing? Several red flags from my point of view (I will say upfront I haven't even come close to reading the thread, simply reading filters for now)

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:12 GMT
#1840
va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:15 GMT
#1841
also ve makes this read:

On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO.


iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:16 GMT
#1843
On April 04 2014 19:15 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 19:12 Holyflare wrote:
va and ve so annoying to read together ~_~

If you call VE "the sexy bearded one" it will be easier to distinguish.

I actually agree that the sexy bearded one's vote on VA is a little weak - he's going to need to get 16 votes if he really passionately believes in that case. But the sexy bearded one seemed so cheerful at the start of the game :x


that is my only aprehension
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April 04 2014 10:21 GMT
#1845
On April 04 2014 19:16 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 19:15 Holyflare wrote:
also ve makes this read:

On April 03 2014 12:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
iamp, JAT and VE. Killing town too, maybe Wave, maybe sandroba. Maybe not sandroba. I'll lynch any lurker, including myself. Any questions? No? Good, everyone GO.


iamp and jat are way way low down on my reads at that point in time and sandroba had only posted a few times so this list is pretty weird

Actually I liked this post. jat was the only questionable one to me at the time and still I could maybe understand.


well what about his lsb scum read for only talking about the button which turned into an lsb im watching you read for only talking about the button?

On April 03 2014 12:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:33 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:23 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to say I want to push the button. CATASTROPHE or CATASTROPHE??

Excellent point VE, it is important to establish lexiconically that CATASTROPHE is the official correct way to describe the result of pressing the button. Catashrophe is acceptable as a short hand, as well as "The town initiative for a better tomorrow"

For example:

We must push the town button so we can cause CATASTROPHE for the betterment of the town.

I don't think it's important. I've made my stance clear, and I'm trying to find scum instead. Or rather, I've started by trying to find town, which will help me narrow down where I think I should look for scum. However your suggestion that it's important to discuss whether pushing the button is good or bad, again, leads me to believe that you're not so much interested in finding scum.

LSB captured!!

I thought you were a friend, yet it seems to be you are nothing but a jailkeeper, a torturer of those whole want to be free

I love you LSB. But I will kill you for the town.

On April 03 2014 12:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
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On April 03 2014 12:40 LSB wrote:
On April 03 2014 12:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
LSB, do you have specific Info about the button???

I have no info about the button, even I, someone who is wise enough to realize the importance of unsealing the CATASTROPHE cannot fathom what the CATASTROPHE will bring

I'm willing to let you live for now LSB. But I'm watching you. Carefully.

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:26 GMT
#1847
On April 04 2014 19:25 marvellosity wrote:
what about it? lol

I don't see why a town VE cannot make those posts? Can you really tell me otherwise?


because i don't think ve would have a scum read on a person for not posting any game relevant content and then drop it because that person continues doing no game relevant content straight away 1 post after he scum read him.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:28 GMT
#1851
nvm i missed the post where he brought it up again:

On April 03 2014 23:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I tried to give him some breathing room but LSB has still given me no reason to keep him around. Can some of the people ignoring my posts look at LSB and tell me with a straight face that we should not lynch him?


Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:33 GMT
#1856
On April 04 2014 19:28 marvellosity wrote:
how do you feel about jat, btw?


i still don't have crazy town feels like i normally see from jat, he spent 2 pages arguing about killing and then came to the conclusion that killing "must be a tool then" instead of killing being scum and then later on in the game as soon as someone mentions they don't have a town read on him (snb) jat is all over that supporting a killing lynch

On April 04 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
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On April 04 2014 00:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

Killing is DEFINITELY town. If you think otherwise, go read Foundations.

Wut? He was scum that game and hasn't played a town forum game afaik. Bad approach to meta him like that.
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On April 04 2014 00:08 strongandbig wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 04 2014 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 03 2014 23:23 Keirathi wrote:
Anyways, for the record, I'm not really interested in lynching Balla right this minute. Mostly because everything he's done has fit with his pre-game "roll".

Random lynch = 100% neutral. He rolled true neutral.

I don't think it was constructive and the whole bit was dumb, but I just see it as more of him having fun with his roll than being scum.

Totes okay with waiting until he says more.


Nah i totally disagree with this. What better way to play as scum saying "i said I would do this pregame". I feel like townBalla would have more responsibilty as town than to play like this.

so your read on balla is a meta-read based on the fact that you think he would roleplay as scum and not as town? can you give me some evidence or reasoning to back up this meta read? i have never played with balla before.

other than this metaread i dont see anything in balla's filter that looks actively scummy rather than just not playing the game, and it's early enough in the day that we don't have to start worrying about that yet

Balla's meta is that he plays as town. If he is mafia he either does not play or if he tries he gets caught.

if it didnt come across in my sandrojism comment

i dont like people like that

syllo is playing for real so far this game though so i should stop needling him. my b



anyway i still don't think killing is town. who's with me?

You have my axe.


and then he argues with rayn about killing some more.... he hasn't pushed anything about killing who he thinks is not town and then +1's a post about killing killing and just defends austin etc from rayn (which was actually fair) but even so his filter is killing central with no accusation of killing being scum

not feeling crazy good about jat tbh
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#1862
i dunno all the games i played with jat he looked really town to me so meh, what game are you talking about?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:37 GMT
#1863
oh you don't remember nvm
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:39 GMT
#1865
just want to lynch ve for not wanting to defend the button tbh
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 10:46 GMT
#1870
On April 04 2014 19:42 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hf like half the game wants to push the button. You havent said anything about ve being scum, you nullified the LSB point and you dont have any other. VE was pushing VA because apparently he talked more in the qt than in thread which obviously is scummy. Also va claimed antitown


No it's not obviously scummy and you are being dumb, VA makes it consistently evident that he hates reading threads and he doesn't like it when a million pages happen before he gets here (he's said that in a pre-game somewhere? maybe titanic?) so it's not really odd at all that he'd spend time talking more in the qt and filter diving.

That ve thing about the button was quite clearly a joke and it IS weird because he was so adament about joining the button defence league in pre-game and then suddenly had a massive change of heart for no reason whatsoever because LSB (his scum read) was talking about pressing the button. So truthfully, VE changed his mind on defending the button because to him scum told him to press the button. So clearly oats, that is really fucking weird to me. Regardless of what VE says about his mindset since the start of the game being to press the button (he also said paperscraps was suspicious for having this suspicion).

Quote VA saying he isn't town please
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:01 GMT
#1873
what game did robik just play scum in?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:03 GMT
#1877
On April 04 2014 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:01 Holyflare wrote:
what game did robik just play scum in?

newbie whatever-number-it-is


yeh just read it this isn't scum robik
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:05 GMT
#1881
On April 04 2014 20:04 marvellosity wrote:
maybe i shouldn't lynch you holy.

what do you think about that?


i think that was an obvious conclusion a while ago
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:08 GMT
#1884
On April 04 2014 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On April 04 2014 16:36 VayneAuthority wrote:
My role is anti-town to clarify. and narcissistic. I wasn't going to get night killed anyway so I dont see any harm in revealing this


Va is not posting in the thread, it has nothing to do with readin the thread. Why is he only posting in the qt about reada ans such? Your defence is completely wrong holyflare.


you don't know how much he is posting in said qt or about what, he said it in a pre-game that he doesn't like to read or catch up in long threads so why would he automatically change that now? why is that scummy? he is part of the 4 horsemen and it was already stated that scum COULD be in the qt and i presume horsemen have anti-townish powers because well... they are the 4 horsemen no duh??

what's the point of revealing if his role is anti town or not if he is scum?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:10 GMT
#1886
I need to look at HF more because in the game I played with him where he was town he came out with a bang found a scum and literally never shut up about that. I haven't seen that passion this game. Going to reread his filter though as I know he was caught up in the troll fest that went on for the better part of the last 24 hours. Hf might be scum too but I need to reread his filter as this is more of a feel read of me thinking about his alignment and going "where is the scumhunting tunnel fest that was in titanic?"


this seems very pre-meditated because i've been posting for a while now and i antagonised robik which he gave palmar town points for but not me? and then he mentions that he hasn't read me but that i could be scum?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:12 GMT
#1892
On April 04 2014 20:11 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:00 marvellosity wrote:
Do you think you're going to rally a majority on to Robik?

Further to this, Poofter, you claim Robik is uninterested in the thread

And yet you have outstanding questions directed to you from other people in the thread that you've seemingly missed yourself.


I think that he is around and able to be interested but is not putting effort into the game. I read that as scummy.

I am not going to leave out information even if I can't get a majority on my preferred lynch I want my case out there so it can be seen. I would never know if I could get a majority to rally behind it if I don't present it. Why would it be bad for me to bring up a case on anyone at this point that I find scummy? I'm showing there is a max 4 votes on anyone atm so looks like we don't have anything remotely close to a majority atm. So I am going to say that YEs I most definitely could get a majority on scumRobik.


please read newbie LIV filter:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/445959-newbie-mini-mafia-liv?user=IAmRobik&view=all

does this look like this game to you? (he was scum in liv)
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:13 GMT
#1894
On April 04 2014 20:12 Palmar wrote:
cryptic message:

For me only two remain: Cor 13:13


you have no faith, love or hope? which one!
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April 04 2014 11:16 GMT
#1901
On April 04 2014 20:14 Tehpoofter wrote:
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On April 04 2014 20:10 Holyflare wrote:
I need to look at HF more because in the game I played with him where he was town he came out with a bang found a scum and literally never shut up about that. I haven't seen that passion this game. Going to reread his filter though as I know he was caught up in the troll fest that went on for the better part of the last 24 hours. Hf might be scum too but I need to reread his filter as this is more of a feel read of me thinking about his alignment and going "where is the scumhunting tunnel fest that was in titanic?"


this seems very pre-meditated because i've been posting for a while now and i antagonised robik which he gave palmar town points for but not me? and then he mentions that he hasn't read me but that i could be scum?


I looked at the voting thread after reading through the main thread to see where all the votes currently were and you were the top vote getting candidate so I thought "hmm what do I think about HF atm... Well in Titanic he was a mad man and wouldn't shut up about DP (and was very right) I don't recall him saying anything like this this game... in fact I don't think I remember much about HF in this thread he is playing different from his town game maybe he is scum" (granted my sample size with you is very very very small but I can't ignore the sample I have in making a read. And I say you could be scum not are scum.


So HF what do you mean by pre-meditated? like what do you mean that I was going to call you scum all along and just didn't have a reason?


you say that I COULD be scum but if i could be scum then you SHOULD be making a read on me and actually reading my filter to confirm that. Instead you post that I COULD be scum but you do not know because you haven't read me. I have also posted a lot in the past few pages, enough to get a read on but you posted this after all that which means you didn't read the thread before you posted it properly.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:18 GMT
#1904
what was the game where everyone was countries?
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April 04 2014 11:21 GMT
#1912
On April 04 2014 20:20 Tehpoofter wrote:
@HF You're correct I didn't really read page 94-95 thoroughly I was making a case on Robik putting together the quotes I had saved while reading the thread and such and just hit post. I think immediately gave my other reads and definitely plan on reading your filter next because of what I said.

So do you like my case on Robik HF? I mean obviously you don't like me thinking you're scum but should you get townie points for antagonizing Robik (I noted it for Palmer while reading but not you I could have missed it and will go back and do so)


no i don't, hence why i told you to read liv where robik looks completely different to this game x_x
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April 04 2014 11:26 GMT
#1919
On April 04 2014 20:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
Fuck man holyflare. Its not about reading the thread, its about posting content in a qt where only 3 other people can read it. So therefore he can influence these dudes without having to convince everyone in the game. Its a lot easier to fool someone when there are less people. Town va doesnt care about intentionally using the qt as opposed to the thread to talk. Obvioisly he claims antitown because people will make theargument you make holyflare. It gives him cred in some peoples eyes. Lynch scumclaimers.


are you going to keep talking about this point or actually talk about more game relevant points at this time?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 11:26 GMT
#1921
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va
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April 04 2014 11:31 GMT
#1929
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-
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April 04 2014 11:32 GMT
#1931
On April 04 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote:
I think Paperscraps is a great lynch.


so you don't agree with the qt/ve thing?
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April 04 2014 11:35 GMT
#1936
was parallel worlds good?
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April 04 2014 12:22 GMT
#1950
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch
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April 04 2014 12:35 GMT
#1956
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town
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April 04 2014 12:42 GMT
#1962
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.


So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?

You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?

Why are you being so weird oats?
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April 04 2014 12:49 GMT
#1967
On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote:
i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va

Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him?
How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched?????


because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him

there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.-

Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow.

Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm.


Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town....

Paper scraps best lynch

whatever man.
Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill.


are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town

HOlyflare on this.
Amiko on this
BH on this.

Dude how is this not sketchy?
And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum.


So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now?

You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time?

Why are you being so weird oats?

Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare?
And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum.


I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 12:57 GMT
#1972
On April 04 2014 21:56 Dandel Ion wrote:
I don't quite understand under which angle people are actually defending VA's play.

Elaborate pls.


Nobody is defending VA's play but nobody is saying it's scum play either. Apart from oats who is convinved VA is the only scum and that he claimed scum and that everyone on paperscraps (who he is now voting for) is scum.
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April 04 2014 12:58 GMT
#1973
Also dandel, why have you called yamato scum all game but not really pushed that or tried to get people to see it at all and only really mention it when questioned?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 13:01 GMT
#1976
On April 04 2014 21:59 Dandel Ion wrote:
Because that would be pointless

Why do you insist on wasting everybody's time by talking to them about what you wanted them to do because in your opinion they should do that instead?


because to me asking about people's motives about why they do something is not a waste of time

i fail to see how lynching scum would be pointless, unless of course your goal is to not lynch scum?
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April 04 2014 13:07 GMT
#1982
On April 04 2014 22:03 Dandel Ion wrote:
It's pointless because he won't be lynched today.

Your question have nothing to do with figuring anything out, they're completely irrelevant to reads, you just go around yelling "HEY YOU SHOULD DO X INSTEAD OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING"


no, it's really not irrelevant to reads. If a guy says someone is confirmed scum to them, he is obviously scum because he is disrupting and maintains that he has a scum read on the person for the entire day but does not push that person or want to get him lynched at all that person looks suspicious as fuck

especially as you think oats/gumshoe/kita and yamato are scummy but then you also do nothing to show why to the thread either, in fact your only lynch choice was kita who role claimed a towny role rather than the people you think are actually scum
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April 04 2014 13:13 GMT
#1988
On April 04 2014 22:09 Dandel Ion wrote:
I explained oats, and if you need help seeing why gumshoe and kita should die the most painful death possible you should probably pull a rayn.


aww didums you done explained to ppl did you? good for you!

so why not push those people for a lynch but instead saunter on following the thread doing nothing but saying crappy things
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April 04 2014 13:15 GMT
#1993
On April 04 2014 22:13 marvellosity wrote:
How about you stop clogging the thread attacking obv-town Dandel, Holy?


explain how he is obvious town plox
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April 04 2014 13:17 GMT
#1997
On April 04 2014 22:15 Dandel Ion wrote:
Like it's abundantly obvious that all he's trying to say here is "hey you also think some other people are scum so please please unvote me and lynch them instead pretty please"


i didn't know your vote was on me and i don't give a crap tbh, i'm asking why you wander along in the thread acting like you are contributing reads but never pushing those reads or trying to get those reads to divulge more information to their alignment, you talk in too many absolutes but never follow through with them
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 13:19 GMT
#1999
so... that's how scum love to get away with appearing town by fitting in and contributing by giving their "reads" on people but never pushing anything in the fear of looking bad on a town flip or if they are wrong
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April 04 2014 13:19 GMT
#2000
i don't get how that is not clear from my line of questioning and it's a joke that you think i care that you are voting me
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April 04 2014 13:22 GMT
#2005
On April 04 2014 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
so... that's how scum love to get away with appearing town by fitting in and contributing by giving their "reads" on people but never pushing anything in the fear of looking bad on a town flip or if they are wrong

Read any Dandel mafia game and then just shut up.


i have, hence why i'm still following up on it, i do not care what you say because you can be wrong ty
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April 04 2014 13:25 GMT
#2013
On April 04 2014 22:23 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:20 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:19 Holyflare wrote:
so... that's how scum love to get away with appearing town by fitting in and contributing by giving their "reads" on people but never pushing anything in the fear of looking bad on a town flip or if they are wrong

Read any Dandel mafia game and then just shut up.


i have, hence why i'm still following up on it, i do not care what you say because you can be wrong ty

confirmed liar


no i've read your games, your database goes to les mafia where you talk in longer posts than this but was may last year and british empire which was march last year, it does not contain any games more recent than that

both games show you are capable of 2 very different scum styles and after so many town games since then it is very easy to slip into a more towny style of posting as mafia which is what you are displaying here
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April 04 2014 13:26 GMT
#2015
"towny"*
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April 04 2014 13:28 GMT
#2019
On April 04 2014 22:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv

actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior

I find holyflare to be 5000% confirmed mafia so I'm inclined to disagree.


but that means you have to lynch kita because you don't lynch confirmed scum
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April 04 2014 13:30 GMT
#2024
On April 04 2014 22:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv

actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior

I find holyflare to be 5000% confirmed mafia so I'm inclined to disagree.


but that means you have to lynch kita because you don't lynch confirmed scum

hi you talk a lot but have no scumreads, how come?


well it's seemingly obvious you are a scum read right now? i also have ve who made a va scum read based off something he took as a joke in the qt and switched his button pushing stance because his scum read told him to, also paperscraps the guy that doesn't have any reads that make sense
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April 04 2014 13:31 GMT
#2026
On April 04 2014 22:30 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:30 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:28 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:27 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:25 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
sheeping sandroba > sheeping marv

actually in games sand & I have been town together, my day 1 reads have been superior

I find holyflare to be 5000% confirmed mafia so I'm inclined to disagree.


but that means you have to lynch kita because you don't lynch confirmed scum

hi you talk a lot but have no scumreads, how come?


well it's seemingly obvious you are a scum read right now? i also have ve who made a va scum read based off something he took as a joke in the qt and switched his button pushing stance because his scum read told him to, also paperscraps the guy that doesn't have any reads that make sense

then why don't you have the balls to say so


i fail how to see how that was not evident in the past few pages unless you admit to not reading
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April 04 2014 13:54 GMT
#2049
On April 04 2014 22:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
topic changes to something relevant to the game

holyflare stops posting so he doesn't have to take a stance


why do i care about taking stances on anyone? got facts to back stuff up there buddy?

i liked what you said and subsequently took my scummy read on you and threw it away because you know... you're actually doing something with your read now

gumshoe defended austin really weirdly after people had already done it so added nothing and then after doing that started questioning austin about why he was doing scummy looking stuff which is definitely weird

and scummy people attack lsb
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April 04 2014 13:55 GMT
#2051
i'm pretty sure that was sarcasm
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April 04 2014 13:57 GMT
#2057
On April 04 2014 22:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Dunno after the years you spent crawling into my butthole for basically not doing that in your opinion you sure aren't in a hurry to do it yourself.


no it was that you called people scum and then did jack shit about it, you said gumshoe was scum but then didn't even bother posting this shit (which you could have done a long long time ago) until not long left into day 2

and you just prove that you haven't read anything about me by saying i go away when game talk happens because that's all i was doing with marv for the past 5-10 pages
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April 04 2014 13:58 GMT
#2060
On April 04 2014 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:54 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
topic changes to something relevant to the game

holyflare stops posting so he doesn't have to take a stance


why do i care about taking stances on anyone? got facts to back stuff up there buddy?

i liked what you said and subsequently took my scummy read on you and threw it away because you know... you're actually doing something with your read now

gumshoe defended austin really weirdly after people had already done it so added nothing and then after doing that started questioning austin about why he was doing scummy looking stuff which is definitely weird

and scummy people attack lsb

Hey yo which scummy people attacked LSB?


that guy that i mentioned earlier about sheeping his scum read into pushing a button that he didn't want to push pre-game, the one that made a case on va based on something he took as a joke in qt the one who has only scum read lsb the policy button talker and va the afker

ve if that wasn't clear
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April 04 2014 13:59 GMT
#2061
On April 04 2014 22:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 22:57 Holyflare wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:55 Dandel Ion wrote:
Dunno after the years you spent crawling into my butthole for basically not doing that in your opinion you sure aren't in a hurry to do it yourself.


no it was that you called people scum and then did jack shit about it, you said gumshoe was scum but then didn't even bother posting this shit (which you could have done a long long time ago) until not long left into day 2

and you just prove that you haven't read anything about me by saying i go away when game talk happens because that's all i was doing with marv for the past 5-10 pages

because it was so obvious it didn't need to be pointed out

writing the post was a waste of time.


well i have plenty of time to spare so not like i'm bothered here
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April 04 2014 14:12 GMT
#2085
On April 04 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2014 23:02 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 23:00 marvellosity wrote:
On April 04 2014 22:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 04 2014 19:34 Koshi wrote:
I never have a townfeeling on JAT.

Liar.
On April 04 2014 19:39 marvellosity wrote:
I'm fairly sure it was Noir.

Hogwarts was even worse.

I am way more content with this game today - finally a whole bunch of townreads. Would be down to lynch Koshi for not being obvious town Koshi, Killing or sheep marv/sandro on Paperscraps.

So how do you view Holyflare?

No idea. I actually only skimmed some of his posts... This argument with dandel for example is so useless.

Holyflare may or may not remain sandro's preferred lynch, so I suggest you try to find an idea.

If it comes to this I will but I don't see that many votes on him.

So you're going to neglect reading me because....? There's votes one me. You just stated that my argument with dandel is useless so you have no idea what I've done but you don't want to bother looking into me...?
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April 04 2014 14:19 GMT
#2091
Well it isn't that hard i only started playing today
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April 04 2014 15:28 GMT
#2159
9 1/2 hours to go..
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April 04 2014 15:44 GMT
#2167
On April 05 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.


despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~
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April 04 2014 15:44 GMT
#2168
gumshoe is a lot better option
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April 04 2014 15:45 GMT
#2170
On April 04 2014 23:54 kitaman27 wrote:
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On April 04 2014 23:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
You seem to be very against lynching Paper though kita. Like hes your 3rd scummiest dude but you really dont want to lynch him? Doesnt sit right with me.


How is he my third scummiest dude? These players are higher up on the chopping block for me:

iamp
Amiko
Hope
killing
syllo
Keirathi
and maybe Koshi
(VE?)


did you catch up to the thread? why is gumshoe not in this list?
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April 04 2014 15:46 GMT
#2171
On April 05 2014 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.


despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~

I know, but however much you handwave it away using previous games, antagonising Robik was truly terrible, and I still think all your reads have been pretty misplaced. On the other hand I kinda fancy your reads would be less weird as mafia. Hence queasiness.


so you're saying the guy that follows his scum read to change his stance on button pressing is a good guy?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 15:47 GMT
#2173
and i don't care if antagonising robik was terrible he was a dick and full of himself last game and i relish in the opportunity to anger those kinds of people
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 15:51 GMT
#2182
On April 05 2014 00:50 LSB wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps
Reasoning here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=67#1323


so your reasoning isn't marv's reasoning?
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April 04 2014 15:53 GMT
#2187
On April 05 2014 00:46 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 00:46 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:45 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:44 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:42 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:39 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 00:20 marvellosity wrote:
Anyways, the only ppl that can talk me down from this lynch are sandroba and Paperscraps. So I guess I'll wait until they turn up.


Would amiko be your backup assuming you change your mind on paper?

That is a good question. I'm tempted to say no, but hmm. I quite like the idea of lynching Djodref after he posted that he would lay low as mafia. But that's just one post. Amiko has a certain fluffy quality to him that I don't mind that makes me a little nervous. Maybe I'd vote him. Maybe gumshoe. Maybe sand could reconvince me on Holy but that one's making me feel a little queasy.


despite me pointing out the obvious flaws in that sandro case ~_~

I know, but however much you handwave it away using previous games, antagonising Robik was truly terrible, and I still think all your reads have been pretty misplaced. On the other hand I kinda fancy your reads would be less weird as mafia. Hence queasiness.


so you're saying the guy that follows his scum read to change his stance on button pressing is a good guy?

who are you referring to?


nvm about this it looked like he changed his stance after lsb talked about the button being catastrophe but he's right it's not alignment indicative, it's just super weird that he wants to all of a sudden push it rather than defend it
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 16:03 GMT
#2189
wut do with 3rd parties?

Town: Objective - Kill all mafia, and all third parties that can’t win with town

Mafia: Objective - Outnumber the town and no third parties with competing win conditions remain. KP for Mafia is #Mafia/2 rounded up. The number of Mafia is unknown. The Mafia will require members to carry out KP


3rd parties are possible. Their win conditions are unknown.


On April 03 2014 20:25 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2014 20:24 Tehpoofter wrote:
@robik do you think paperscraps only does the make the game harder for himself as mafia? I actually think Daniel made up that role and did that himself but I'm not really sure if its alignment indicative.

@Palmer does 7th party win with town?

@marv if I call you mafia how mad would you get? partly mad or like really really mad?


pretty sure I've already won, but no idea.

The hosts refuse to explain my role so I don't know.

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 16:20 GMT
#2198
On April 05 2014 01:18 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:09 marvellosity wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:09 Killing wrote:
On April 04 2014 20:56 Tehpoofter wrote:
@marv forgive me if I don't take your word for it But if some others can verify I'll definitely take it into account. I think you're wrong on Robik. So I will say I disagree strongly with you and encourage you to reread my case.


@Killing, Paperscraps (Maybe VE?) you guys play with Robik do you agree with my case? Also paper lots of heat on you atm why did you null read defend me?


Robert isn't mafia. If he rolled mafia in a game where he has many partners, he'd give no fucks. I don't know if he got some sick 3p role that he's excited to play but I'm sure that he's not mafia.

I'm only on page 99 but I'm gonna post because the Paperscraps BW is real. I think he's probably town, nothing he's written has been that scummy to me and it seems that people are jumping on him for the most part due to him writing backwards. I don't understand why no one has considered that he's decided to just troll by writing backwards. Everyone seems to jump to the conclusion that he's implying that his role requires him to write backwards. I don't believe he does have a role that requires him to write backwards but I also don't believe that he's mafia doing it.

Also, I think tehpoofter is mafia. He's playing very similarly to his video mafia meta when he rolls mafia. I'm going to finish reading the thread and then if I have time, I'll write up a small post.

Not in the slightest.


Not in the slightest what?


if you read to page 99 you'd know the case on him was not to do with just the writing, so have you actually read to page 99 or are you making it up?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 16:22 GMT
#2201
I still don't get why lsb tried to be hipster and make it look like he is voting for paper because of his own reasoning? Bus maybe?
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April 04 2014 16:40 GMT
#2211
On April 05 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't get why lsb tried to be hipster and make it look like he is voting for paper because of his own reasoning? Bus maybe?


^^^^^^
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April 04 2014 16:41 GMT
#2216
On April 05 2014 00:50 LSB wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Paperscraps
Reasoning here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/447045-catastrophe-mafia?page=67#1323


for the lazy

is lsb not reading properly? is he trying to make it out like he's done the legwork to fit in?
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April 04 2014 16:43 GMT
#2219
On April 05 2014 01:41 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:22 Holyflare wrote:
I still don't get why lsb tried to be hipster and make it look like he is voting for paper because of his own reasoning? Bus maybe?


^^^^^^

I don't get your point, he said he could vote Paperscaps long ago, and now he is.


no, his point is "scraps read on ve is bad because of button pressing" not, "marv said about this contradiction which makes it super obvious that he's not following his own train of thought" which is completely different and makes it look like he wants to fit into the town by showing that he had this read before
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April 04 2014 16:46 GMT
#2225
On April 05 2014 01:44 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare, what are you doing exactly now irl?


coursework, why?
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April 04 2014 16:49 GMT
#2227
On April 05 2014 01:45 LSB wrote:
Is holyflare always this paranoid?


this paperscraps lynch is going to happen so whoever's reason isn't "because marv's posts" looks weird to me imo
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April 04 2014 16:51 GMT
#2230
On April 05 2014 01:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 01:46 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 01:44 Palmar wrote:
Holyflare, what are you doing exactly now irl?


coursework, why?

Are you perhaps doing it while driving a bus?


i have no driving license
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April 04 2014 17:24 GMT
#2246
gumshoe is really active in cell and his name has been thrown around a lot and by his own meta analysis if he gets overwhelmed as scum he just gets lazy and doesn't post

shoot that mofo
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 18:22 GMT
#2286
Paperscraps isn't in that list, paperscraps is being voted. Foolishness doesn't comment on paperscraps. Foolishness is a shitter version of shadow foolishness. Foolishness is mafia.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 18:26 GMT
#2289
At least in shadow he talked about the relevant people and gave good reasoning as to their alignments. That sort of balanced out his lack of activity and conversation with people. This game is reads with not much content and no conversation and the majority of his reads seem to be the no posting people.. And no paperscraps.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 19:44 GMT
#2338
On April 05 2014 04:42 Paperscraps wrote:
.game this in read easiest the like am I .me on votes many so are there surprised actually am I .asap up catch will ,90 page at am I .up woke Just .guys hey Oh


claim your role, your "item" benefits and penalties and your alignment plox



and your scum team
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April 04 2014 19:47 GMT
#2342
syllo is like confirmed town for posting in the cell thread btw
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April 04 2014 19:52 GMT
#2345
On April 05 2014 04:51 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:47 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 05 2014 04:46 syllogism wrote:
Gumshoe has made 39 posts in the other game since his last one in here and the lynch deadline in that game isn't even today.
I'm leaving in 30 minutes and it doesn't look like paperscraps lynch needs any help to reach majority, so that's where my vote is going.

##vote Gumshoe


gumshoe made a whole ton of posts in cell while making like 5 in Dr. Who as town. You think this still holds?

I'll take a look. The issue is the allocation of time and effort between the games rather than just the notion that he always has to post tons as town.


he's unflipped in cell though so you don't know why he is invested in which game
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April 04 2014 19:57 GMT
#2351
On April 05 2014 04:56 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 04:54 Paperscraps wrote:
.bad so is case the when Especially .now stop will I think I .boring so is yourself defending Bleh .inconsistent be cannot players Town .mafia be must I that is this for reason possible only The .Tehpoofter on changed read my Oh

We are lynching you because you write strange.


no we aren't
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 20:02 GMT
#2357
On April 05 2014 05:02 syllogism wrote:
Kita is right about the discrepancy between gumshoe's activity in cell mini/doctor who being almost as large as in here/cell. Hard to contextualize the activity, but it does weaken my point. Perhaps tehpoofter is a better lynch.


are you disregarding paperscraps who literally just said "i can't be bothered to defend"?
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April 04 2014 20:09 GMT
#2368
On April 05 2014 05:05 Paperscraps wrote:
.ever 1 day lynch scum Easies .by skating is and game all nothing says He .filter his read Just .iamperfection voting be all should We .bit a skim to Had .up caught Finally


So what does your filter say?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 20:10 GMT
#2370
On April 05 2014 05:09 sandroba wrote:
Alright I think I might have been wrong about holy but at least it got him playing the game. Still got a bit of catching up to do.

PS: @holy by "proud mafia player" I meant the game not the alignment


Oh well that makes sense.
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April 04 2014 20:11 GMT
#2372
On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You


Just role reveal and item reveal already.
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April 04 2014 20:24 GMT
#2389
On April 05 2014 05:11 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 05:10 Paperscraps wrote:
.up this brought t'haven Robik ,Killing ,Tehpoofter surprised am I .wolves the to sheep lead and mafia as town pro super play I .now right me before kneeling by all would you ,mafia was I if that realize do guys You


Just role reveal and item reveal already.

Holyflare
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April 04 2014 20:34 GMT
#2396
On April 05 2014 05:31 yamato77 wrote:
marv, tell me who to vote

you have replaced rayn as town hero


Is this a serious post?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 20:53 GMT
#2402
Paper has been given a lot of opportunity to prove that he is town. I think it's more mafia indicative that he doesn't try and escape the lynch by posting more and more cases to try and survive because there's too much to read.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 22:29 GMT
#2529
+ Show Spoiler +
On April 05 2014 06:38 Foolishness wrote:
[image loading]

Edition 5. Day 1 of Catastrophe.


BREAKING NEWS!


[image loading]


We interrupt for this breaking news bulletin!

Our undercover agent HolyFlare managed to catch Paperscraps and Foolishness deep in conversation at a restaurant. HolyFlare was able to get part of the conversation on tape. Here's an exclusive look at what he obtained:

Paperscraps: ...item might turn out to be the death of me because of the posting restriction.
Foolishness: People will always go after that stuff cause it's easy pickings.
...
...
Foolishness: syllogism should definitely not be trusted.
Paperscraps: What about marvellosity?
Foolishness: Who?
Paperscraps: marvellosity?
Foolishness: Who's that?
Paperscraps: Oh c'mon don't be a hater.
Foolishness: What reason do I have to listen to him? What reason does anyone have to listen to him? He claims things like he's more often right than myself or sandroba or syllogism, and that's just simply not true. Marvellosity has single-handedly ruin games for the town in the past, and he's also messed up my correct reads before too. Until he proves himself again I don't see why his reads are any better than any other player in the game.
Paperscraps: So you think he's town then?
Foolishness: No reason to kill him yet. Though he's hiding something. sandroba and kitaman are much more trustworthy.
...
...
Foolishness: Honestly you should stop responding to him...he's got a huge ego and you're just wasting your time. Similar to what happened with gonzaw and myself in Shadow mafia.
...
...
...
Paperscraps: ...Mattchew....dickhead...
...
...
...
Foolishness: The most damning thing about you is your switcheroo read on tehpoofter. I don't think that's reason enough to lynch you. I don't feel like you're hiding anything from the town. You're not pushing an agenda. Also a lot of questionable people are pushing your lynch. Ironically some of these players are also top of peoples' scum list.
Paperscraps: How does that factor in?
Foolishness: For example, I may have a list of 6-7 people I think are mafia. Obviously I probably have a couple right as most people would, but the others are all wrong. I always get antsy when 4 of the players in the list are all voting the same person.
...
...
Paperscraps: Thank you for your support in a very backend sort of way.
Foolishness: Don't get me wrong, a no-lynch is terrible. If I need to vote you to secure a lynch I will.


HolyFlare had the following to say when asked to comment upon the information he obtained:

"Obviously they are both scumbuddies together. I'm incapable of reading in-between the lines."


The JubJub Journal™ - Apr 4, 2014.



It's shit like this that makes YOU scummy Foolishness. Nothing about reading between the lines, nothing about being scum buddies with someone else. If you're in a qt with paperscraps you let the entire wagon build up on him just to reveal this information (if it is even from a qt) a few hours before a lynch. A lynxh that happens at like 2-4am european time. Regardless of this, you mention that most of your reads could possibly be wrong but then you STILL mention and quote kitamins list as a good list and you shared most of those reads.

Is this a qt? When did it happen?
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April 04 2014 23:01 GMT
#2564
I actually don't mind amiko, am i the only one? Not sure a newbie scum game would look like that especially only after 1 game?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:08 GMT
#2568
On April 05 2014 08:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure it's actually more because he's a scummy lurker that doesn't play the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Amiko

He only had a 5 page filter in a 9 person mini on day 4 lylo (as town)
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April 04 2014 23:13 GMT
#2573
On April 05 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure it's actually more because he's a scummy lurker that doesn't play the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Amiko

He only had a 5 page filter in a 9 person mini on day 4 lylo (as town)

It's about the "WTF IS THIS DUDE EVEN SAYING"

How can you not understand what he's saying? He's saying that as scum in newbie you were hesitant to fake claim a role so most likely you were telling the truth about being immune. He thinks you aren't mafia for that but the fact you claimed a role that can't die at night in the thread makes you not town either. Hence his read as 3p for you.

His paperscraps reasoning is marvs + some stuff about his read on bh being super weird saying that bh "should be honest" but doesn't elaborate more on it and then stops on bh altogether.
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April 04 2014 23:17 GMT
#2582
On April 05 2014 08:15 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:14 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:13 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:08 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:04 Dandel Ion wrote:
pretty sure it's actually more because he's a scummy lurker that doesn't play the game.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/441178-newbie-mini-mafia-lii?user=Amiko

He only had a 5 page filter in a 9 person mini on day 4 lylo (as town)

It's about the "WTF IS THIS DUDE EVEN SAYING"

How can you not understand what he's saying? He's saying that as scum in newbie you were hesitant to fake claim a role so most likely you were telling the truth about being immune. He thinks you aren't mafia for that but the fact you claimed a role that can't die at night in the thread makes you not town either. Hence his read as 3p for you.

His paperscraps reasoning is marvs + some stuff about his read on bh being super weird saying that bh "should be honest" but doesn't elaborate more on it and then stops on bh altogether.

He keeps noting though that I could be mafia and that he wants to win with me. That makes 0 sense. Stop it.

As a proponent of "thinking logically" you're failing hard at it.

That's totally what mafia do. Call someone 3p/unlikely mafia but then claim mafia. Right? Right?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:21 GMT
#2589
I still think he is most likely to be a 3rd party, potentially scum, so I wouldn't want to kill him. @IAmRobik let's win together?


Hey robik i think you're 3p/maybe scum but im totally scum too let's win together k?

Is that what scum has devolved to? I don't think so.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:25 GMT
#2595
On April 05 2014 08:24 Amiko wrote:
I didn't expect or intend a wagon to form when I voted on paperscraps; there was only one other vote on him at the time. I think that should be clear if you look at my posts - I wasn't pushing the paperscraps lynch, but I was pushing to get attention on him and to try to get responses. I don't believe his reverse-type claim, so it seems like a play for attention. But, when people question him he doesn't really respond, so it feels like he is just encouraging town to waste its time.
His posts feel random and he ignored the questions I asked him, so I think he's a good lynch if only because I feel he is lying and wasting time.

I feel pretty comfortable thinking Robik and Kitaman are third party roles for reasons I've laid out.

I'll try to read and respond to points made earlier, but since it takes a while to get through thread any direct questions would be great.


Why did you say "robik let's win together"?
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April 04 2014 23:26 GMT
#2596
When you said he was 3p/potentially scum?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:30 GMT
#2600
Not sure a gumshoe wagon can be formed in time?
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April 04 2014 23:33 GMT
#2602
There is no amiko wagon
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:34 GMT
#2603
Paperscraps if you aren't in a qt with Foolishness why is he defending you with made up quotes?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:38 GMT
#2610
On April 05 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote:
That's his newspaper style Holy. I doubt he claims to be in a qt with paper.


So you don't find it odd that he never mentions paperscraps at all until i point it out at which point he makes a whole narrative about him and paperscraps 3 hours before the deadline saying paperscraps most likely town?
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:41 GMT
#2616
On April 05 2014 08:38 Paperscraps wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:34 Holyflare wrote:
Paperscraps if you aren't in a qt with Foolishness why is he defending you with made up quotes?


?game this in another defend would person one why wonder I ,Hmmm


Just like foolishness defended me/toad in shadow.

Many town read. Much wrong.


I do not like Foolishness at all this game. Regardless of whatever hard on people have for his paper style.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:42 GMT
#2618
On April 05 2014 08:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 08:35 justanothertownie wrote:
That's his newspaper style Holy. I doubt he claims to be in a qt with paper.


So you don't find it odd that he never mentions paperscraps at all until i point it out at which point he makes a whole narrative about him and paperscraps 3 hours before the deadline saying paperscraps most likely town?

How does that mean he claims to be in a qt in any way? I don't follow your logic.


I asked about the qt because of the narrative, it actually looked plausible that they were in a qt. Now i know they aren't it makes Foolishness weird for saying all of that so late in the day.
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April 04 2014 23:44 GMT
#2623
On April 05 2014 08:44 Paperscraps wrote:
?gumshoe or Amiko lynch rather you would ,Holyflare@


Gumshoe obviously
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:46 GMT
#2630
On April 05 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote: Amiko


You know this is silly. Counter wagon gumshoe only has 6 votes, this won't go through.
Holyflare
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April 04 2014 23:51 GMT
#2638
Thought we lynch scum over 3p? Like 4 people claiming 3p.
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April 04 2014 23:53 GMT
#2642
On April 05 2014 08:52 Amiko wrote:
If you're set that's fine, but I'm glad to keep talking.

@people in thread
If I understand it, the main reason you are pushing on me is that I voted for paperscraps. Do you think the way that I voted for paperscraps reflects an intent to gather information or to push a lynch?


Nobody cares about this. They just want your alignment.
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April 04 2014 23:57 GMT
#2645
Amiko you should realise any wagon formed now is likely the last of the day
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 00:00 GMT
#2651
Full role claim amiko
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 00:01 GMT
#2655
Can we lynch gumshoe after amiko full role claims?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 00:05 GMT
#2666
I literally told you he wasn't scum 4 pages ago :s
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April 05 2014 00:06 GMT
#2669
Poisoner?
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April 05 2014 00:09 GMT
#2678
Oh right.

Is there a tl game where tree stumps were used?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 00:10 GMT
#2686
Roles don't = alignment this game
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April 05 2014 00:11 GMT
#2689
Please switch paperscraps item with foolishness just so everyone's eyes can bleed
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April 05 2014 00:12 GMT
#2694
On April 05 2014 09:11 marvellosity wrote:
you don't say holy. christ.


No shit let's all talk about if we've seen a scum poisoner when it has no relevance!
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April 05 2014 00:15 GMT
#2704
On April 05 2014 09:09 Holyflare wrote:
Oh right.

Is there a tl game where tree stumps were used?

Holyflare
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April 05 2014 00:22 GMT
#2711
On April 05 2014 09:20 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ok now we should definitely kill Djo.


I fail to see how anything has changed your mind seeing as that post is almost identical to his only post of the game?
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April 05 2014 00:24 GMT
#2713
Is djo really next level to post what he'd do as scum and then proceed to do it lol?
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April 05 2014 00:26 GMT
#2716
On April 05 2014 09:25 gumshoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 09:23 austinmcc wrote:
No that IS the post from this game. Has djo actually posted in the QT?


Yes actually, he suggested we reveal our names so that the qt would be useful


Does your qt have a collective powerike koshis?
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April 05 2014 00:40 GMT
#2733
Why would you disable the device when the simplest thing to do is gaurd to see who presses it?
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April 05 2014 00:50 GMT
#2750
We should force amiko to use power so no shenanigans happen
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April 05 2014 00:52 GMT
#2751
So yeh. If robik has the same power kind of like amiko.

Why did he say he wins with town.
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April 05 2014 00:53 GMT
#2752
Seems awfully like reading from the op to me.
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April 05 2014 01:00 GMT
#2756
Well then. Lynch the paperscraps train?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 01:01 GMT
#2759
And you'd be terrible at this game to even remotely believe that's true looking at my filter
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April 05 2014 01:04 GMT
#2763
God fucking damn it gumshoe
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April 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#2765
Rayn's role was cool
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 01:05 GMT
#2766
On April 05 2014 10:02 Paperscraps wrote:
.cool be to trying ,town is Gumshoe


This post is 100% scummy btw
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April 05 2014 01:07 GMT
#2769
On April 05 2014 10:06 WaveofShadow wrote:
Damn it and we lost the inventor. Friggin Rayn. Do they have aa in Finland?

Alcohol is the only way to subdue the depression.
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April 05 2014 08:56 GMT
#2814
On April 05 2014 14:40 IAmRobik wrote:
Hey amiko. Are you upset that I called you out as mafia? You definitely aren't all up in this game like you would be if you were town.

Amiko isn't mafia. Like i told you. So you are still terrible.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 09:33 GMT
#2815
Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 09:55 GMT
#2816
Strongandbig, your vote seems a little odd. You mention a lot of things about what makes paperscraps scum and that he is a good lynch but then all of a sudden follow sandroba kn his gumshoe whim when he presented very little evidence for it. Are you keen to just hop along for the ride over your scummy reads?

There are a lot of other votes like yours too and this was a town lynch. Is there anyone that this is telling for?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 10:40 GMT
#2817
On April 05 2014 17:51 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why in the world are people not playing this game??
man im too lazy to go and reread how the gumshoe lynch turned out.. can someone do it for me?

Holyflare
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April 05 2014 10:56 GMT
#2819
gumshoe (17): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE


Someone look at these people's reasons for voting and what they've said all game. I'm out all weekend :/
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 10:58 GMT
#2820
gumshoe (17): kitaman27, syllogism, sandroba, marvellosity, strongandbig, yamato77, justanothertownie, Dandel Ion, Koshi, marvellosity, paperscraps, Holyflare, justanothertownie, Hopeless1der, Keirathi, Amiko, austinmcc, Killing, WaveofShadow, VE
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 10:59 GMT
#2821
You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 14:57 GMT
#2831
On April 05 2014 23:29 yamato77 wrote:
I'm ggoing to focus on give payers today/tonight. I want to look at syllo, sand, VE, Wave, and paperscraps.

My initial impression was that they were all town, save perhaps scraps. Syllo I had been iffy on, but I definitely thought at one point or another that the other three looked town.

If I don't come up with at least 3 solid suspects after that, I'm going to look at HF, Amiko, Austin, Killing, and BH. 5 players I mostly ignored D1 and seemed to have been more active after I left the thread.


This post is bs because i was your scum read who your vote was on day 1 and wave i seem to remember you saying was not town too?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 15:00 GMT
#2832
On April 05 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day.

Hm, maybe it was because it was right before deadline and we needed a lynch? I have trouble believing you are this stupid.
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2014 19:59 Holyflare wrote:
You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present.

???
I agree that you can ignore dandel and marv because they are probably town but I don't understand your reasoning here and people should definitely not ignore you.


Well that's lovely jat but i was around during the only convo on gumshoe and actively agreed with those reasons. Hence you shouldn't waste your time on me. Which was the point of my post. It's a town lynch and i was present for the reasons why my vote was there same with marv/dandel.

I'm telling you to look into the people with 0 reasons. 0 posts about gumshoe, maybe even town reading gumshoe etc. It's not meant to be a leave me alone never look at me, that's the point of a vote analysis
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 15:15 GMT
#2840
On April 06 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 00:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 05 2014 21:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 05 2014 18:33 Holyflare wrote:
Pretty odd that gumshoe got a majority in 20 mins that was higher than the majority on paperscraps that was there all day.

Hm, maybe it was because it was right before deadline and we needed a lynch? I have trouble believing you are this stupid.
On April 05 2014 19:59 Holyflare wrote:
You can ignore dandel, marv and holyflare because conversation took place about gumshoe when all were present.

???
I agree that you can ignore dandel and marv because they are probably town but I don't understand your reasoning here and people should definitely not ignore you.


Well that's lovely jat but i was around during the only convo on gumshoe and actively agreed with those reasons. Hence you shouldn't waste your time on me. Which was the point of my post. It's a town lynch and i was present for the reasons why my vote was there same with marv/dandel.

I'm telling you to look into the people with 0 reasons. 0 posts about gumshoe, maybe even town reading gumshoe etc. It's not meant to be a leave me alone never look at me, that's the point of a vote analysis

Sounds like bullshit to me. Stop the useless general advice and tell us who did what you said and why that makes them scum.

Like i said, I'm not here all weekend
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 15:19 GMT
#2843
Quick someone tell me the fun mechanic towny games before i leave for good
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 15:50 GMT
#2859
On April 06 2014 00:44 Killing wrote:
We should have just lynched Amiko so we could get his role pm and find out wtf horses do.


Amiko isn't a horse....
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 16:00 GMT
#2863
Someone tell me a super town sided mechanic!
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 16:19 GMT
#2867
On April 06 2014 01:16 Koshi wrote:
Robik Bro. I am going to shoot some1.


You do realise robik is also most likely 3p
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 19:33 GMT
#2967
Give me the name of a pm game that had decent mechanics
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 19:41 GMT
#2976
Wgat was the lsb restart game? Was that balanced for town?
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:25 GMT
#3054
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#3055
Every one*
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:26 GMT
#3057
Anyway i picked a thing so this'll be cool.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:31 GMT
#3060
On April 06 2014 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!

I HAVE been reading you this game. And I read your last game. I even said "I'd lynch the shit out of Holyfare this game, after we lynch all the mafia" in heavyweight. I'm not getting the same impression this game. You're totally off kilt.


Well then you're just terrible. Get on some kind of good level.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:36 GMT
#3064
On April 06 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!

I HAVE been reading you this game. And I read your last game. I even said "I'd lynch the shit out of Holyfare this game, after we lynch all the mafia" in heavyweight. I'm not getting the same impression this game. You're totally off kilt.


Well then you're just terrible. Get on some kind of good level.

Didn't you defend Amiko nonstop on d1 when I tried to lynch someone who's not "town?" and end up voting for a town, who I said we should never fucking lynch? Who's reads suck?


I defended amiko as quite clearly not scum in order to lynch someone who could actually be scum.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:37 GMT
#3065
Because you know. I actually read his filter.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:37 GMT
#3066
Seemingly the only one at the time actually.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 22:43 GMT
#3071
On April 06 2014 07:42 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:35 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:31 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:28 IAmRobik wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:25 Holyflare wrote:
Robik hasn't read a single shitting thing about me or this game. He still called amiko scum even after he claimed 3p rofl. He hasn't said squat about my role. I've been picking out Foolishness posts after everyone who robik seemingly hates but trololol who cares right? Just spout terrible reads and some will be right!

I HAVE been reading you this game. And I read your last game. I even said "I'd lynch the shit out of Holyfare this game, after we lynch all the mafia" in heavyweight. I'm not getting the same impression this game. You're totally off kilt.


Well then you're just terrible. Get on some kind of good level.

Didn't you defend Amiko nonstop on d1 when I tried to lynch someone who's not "town?" and end up voting for a town, who I said we should never fucking lynch? Who's reads suck?


I defended amiko as quite clearly not scum in order to lynch someone who could actually be scum.

but he couldn't be scum. I told you he wasn't scum


Much logic. Many convincing.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:00 GMT
#3094
On April 06 2014 07:57 yamato77 wrote:
Blazing reminds me of himself from the last big numbered game where I played with him and got him lynched. As in, he's town and just trying to not get lynched. Can't really read into it any more than that except that his only read is paperscraps and I'm not quite sold on that guy being mafia.


Or like hogwarts where he was scum with little time
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:06 GMT
#3097
On April 06 2014 08:03 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 08:00 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 07:57 yamato77 wrote:
Blazing reminds me of himself from the last big numbered game where I played with him and got him lynched. As in, he's town and just trying to not get lynched. Can't really read into it any more than that except that his only read is paperscraps and I'm not quite sold on that guy being mafia.


Or like hogwarts where he was scum with little time

Don't get me wrong, he could DEFINITELY still be mafia.

You know, I've been throwing out reads all night, and this is the only thing you want to comment on?


I'm not around and that was the last thing I saw
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:23 GMT
#3102
On April 06 2014 08:14 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave

Holy mafia?

Only played for a quarter of the game? Check! 11 pages still? Check! Made super pro town move? Check!

Town? Check!
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:27 GMT
#3105
On April 06 2014 08:26 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 08:23 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 08:14 yamato77 wrote:
@Wave

Holy mafia?

Only played for a quarter of the game? Check! 11 pages still? Check! Made super pro town move? Check!

Town? Check!

Yeah, problem here is none of that is even remotely town-indicative when you're involved.
You've brought it upon yourself. :D

Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:28 GMT
#3106
I can't die though so it's cool
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:35 GMT
#3112
Also yamato you made a really fail post about me, some quote you mentioned about me saying "anyone who mentions they are voting for paperscraps for not marv reasoning looks bad". That is legitimately true. People who were sheeping along with the vote but addng their own 2 cents about their special reasoning for voting paperscraps should be scrutinised because it's a mafia trait to overjustify a reason to vote when there was a perfectly sheepable reason already. Not to mention paperscraps had no other reasoning to be voted for other than being shit/talking backwards
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:52 GMT
#3124
On April 06 2014 08:45 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Also yamato you made a really fail post about me, some quote you mentioned about me saying "anyone who mentions they are voting for paperscraps for not marv reasoning looks bad". That is legitimately true. People who were sheeping along with the vote but addng their own 2 cents about their special reasoning for voting paperscraps should be scrutinised because it's a mafia trait to overjustify a reason to vote when there was a perfectly sheepable reason already. Not to mention paperscraps had no other reasoning to be voted for other than being shit/talking backwards

It's a terrible, scummy thing to do when you're criticizing people that are trying to achieve a majority on a player that YOU are voting.


No it's not at all rofl. Someone posts some convincing post, I'm like 100% confident people will sheep it. Over justification is a mafia tell regardless of the players alignment. So no yamato, it really isn't.
Holyflare
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April 05 2014 23:56 GMT
#3127
On April 06 2014 08:54 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 08:52 Holyflare wrote:
On April 06 2014 08:45 yamato77 wrote:
On April 06 2014 08:35 Holyflare wrote:
Also yamato you made a really fail post about me, some quote you mentioned about me saying "anyone who mentions they are voting for paperscraps for not marv reasoning looks bad". That is legitimately true. People who were sheeping along with the vote but addng their own 2 cents about their special reasoning for voting paperscraps should be scrutinised because it's a mafia trait to overjustify a reason to vote when there was a perfectly sheepable reason already. Not to mention paperscraps had no other reasoning to be voted for other than being shit/talking backwards

It's a terrible, scummy thing to do when you're criticizing people that are trying to achieve a majority on a player that YOU are voting.


No it's not at all rofl. Someone posts some convincing post, I'm like 100% confident people will sheep it. Over justification is a mafia tell regardless of the players alignment. So no yamato, it really isn't.

Marv's reasoning isn't the end-all-be-all, nor will it ever be. It might be good, but other people can have their own reasons, too, and also be perfectly town. This is not even an argument.


You get on with your method of scum hunting and I'll get on with mine. Let's see how it works out.
Holyflare
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April 06 2014 02:12 GMT
#3139
On April 06 2014 11:11 Blazinghand wrote:
Wow I finally get to mason with someone and its a pm day. Thanks a lot obama

Np
Holyflare
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April 06 2014 02:27 GMT
#3146
Anyone confused by lxiv restart thing, i made the game pm enabled. Happy hunting.
Holyflare
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April 06 2014 02:34 GMT
#3153
On April 06 2014 11:33 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 11:27 Holyflare wrote:
Anyone confused by lxiv restart thing, i made the game pm enabled. Happy hunting.

Not entirely sure why you would use your ability the second day, but I'm not complaining.


You're asking why i wouldn't enable the information in the game to expand on day 2...?
Holyflare
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April 06 2014 12:05 GMT
#3189
Add me to skype if you want to chat. Same username as here.

Inb4 rumour spreading
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 00:17 GMT
#3412
On April 05 2014 12:16 iamperfection wrote:
Think ill do one of my read everyone in the game lists. That will help.


So many promises. So many broken hearts.

##vote iamperfection

(to balance out top 2)
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 09:41 GMT
#3437
Hopeless take me to your shop
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 14:05 GMT
#3448
On April 07 2014 22:08 iamperfection wrote:
i haven't really been given why people think im mafia. All i see is herp derp he is not here must be mafia.

On April 05 2014 12:16 iamperfection wrote:
Think ill do one of my read everyone in the game lists. That will help.



Chop chop
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 14:17 GMT
#3453
Promise 2 1/2 days ago to do a list. Return whining about how you getting voted by dunno why with no list. Much mafia, many disappointment.
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 14:34 GMT
#3462
On April 07 2014 23:28 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm confirmed town cause Marv/Rayn said so


But Foolishness was scum right? LOL
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 14:58 GMT
#3476
Look at scum robik flailing
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 14:59 GMT
#3478
On April 07 2014 23:50 WaveofShadow wrote:
ATTENTION
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Holyflare, this town will lynch you if you do not come clean.


No they won't.
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 15:08 GMT
#3486
I don't think I'm towny at all but i won't get lynched
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 15:27 GMT
#3489
On April 08 2014 00:26 IAmRobik wrote:
##deploy anti-missile defense to prevent tehpoofter from dying

Medic? Mediiiiccc
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 15:33 GMT
#3494
On April 08 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man why did you wait so long?
Also that doesnt seem like a real thing. Is it a real thing?

I would totally lynch HF just for that comment alone.


Cool thing scum.
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:05 GMT
#3505
oats can i shoot you?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:35 GMT
#3515
VE what horseman were you?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:36 GMT
#3519
why is "death" a dt? that is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:37 GMT
#3523
On April 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 01:36 Holyflare wrote:
why is "death" a dt? that is the biggest crock of shit i've ever heard

he is able to peer into the soul of his target, identifying any malicious intent


that sounds like terrible flavour seeing as death just kills everyone
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:39 GMT
#3526
On April 08 2014 01:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Eh.
I wouldn't speculate on that just based on the rolename.


i would 1000%
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:46 GMT
#3537
On April 08 2014 01:40 austinmcc wrote:
Why would you speculate NOW though, or be "wat"ing now, when VE revealed the check towards the start of the day and said he was Death a long time ago?


why does it matter? i want to cross off townies
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 16:46 GMT
#3539
ve why did you check djo when he was a likely modkill?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:02 GMT
#3549
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes - if we believe his claim
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - if information is correct this spot should be leaning green
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand




sheep me to win game

Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:06 GMT
#3552
austin you're silly/scum i just wasn't here or cared on the weekend like i stated in the thread several times
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:12 GMT
#3555
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:16 GMT
#3559
On April 08 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!


1) Too many persons.
2) I am not scum.
3) Killing is a townread for me.

Rest could be.


then point out who is wrong on my town list instead
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:18 GMT
#3562
On April 08 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote:
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
12. Oatsmaster
15. austinmcc
16. Amiko
18. justanothertownie
20. LSB
22. Killing
24. VayneAuthority

i present to you the very likely, almost 85% sure scum team!


1) Too many persons.
2) I am not scum.
3) Killing is a townread for me.

Rest could be.


then point out who is wrong on my town list instead

No need to. I said I disagree with 2 people on your list. There are enough left.


you said it's the wrong number of people? how are you sure on that?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:21 GMT
#3564
9 is possible
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:25 GMT
#3568
and you're saying there couldn't have been 5 kp?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:26 GMT
#3569
why would there even have to be 5kp :o what if someone got healed or rb'd
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:27 GMT
#3572
there could be 3kp with roles that kill once or twice or 4 kp or anything, why is that relevant?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:28 GMT
#3575
nvm it's number of mafia/2 rounded up, i see it now
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:29 GMT
#3576
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:29 GMT
#3578
in which case syllo was bussing amiko, which i don't think is correct so most likely the list is correct - amiko
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:32 GMT
#3581
On April 08 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?


huh............?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:34 GMT
#3583
4 night kills = 8 mafia (i guess maybe 7 possible too)?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:37 GMT
#3585
On April 08 2014 02:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:32 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?


huh............?

Seems like you are ruling out mafia roles with KP and/or 3rd parties with KP.


so you think there's less than 7 people vs 23 other people?
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April 07 2014 17:39 GMT
#3589
On April 08 2014 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:37 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:32 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:31 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 02:29 Holyflare wrote:
but even so, if we believe amiko is 3p then that's still the correct number of ppl

Now I am interested. How can YOU know it is the correct number of people if you don't know their roles?


huh............?

Seems like you are ruling out mafia roles with KP and/or 3rd parties with KP.


so you think there's less than 7 people vs 23 other people?

I am saying that I don't know it and if you aren't mafia then you can't know it either.


don't think this game would be that broken regardless of crazyness
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:39 GMT
#3590
On April 08 2014 02:38 Koshi wrote:
I have like decent % knowing chance that somebody on hf list is town and nobody called him town yet. My minions checked him out last night. But I have many bad minions so let's call it 85% sure.


the only one i think i could take off is va because he was telling people to shoot syllo last night etc
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:43 GMT
#3595
On April 08 2014 02:42 Palmar wrote:
Why does Holyflare think I am town, what magic is this? Are we looking at information beyond what is present here?


i think you're 3p that just has to beat hopeless' at selling so i added you to the town list because i don't care
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:45 GMT
#3596
the simple fact is jat, 4 townies/random people died last night and nobody claimed the shot, that's likely meaning that's 4 kp for scum because those shots would be retarded for townies to make
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:46 GMT
#3597
and if they did make them and claimed, the claim would be so out there that they'd have to be town and even if they weren't town they would be super accountable at the end of the game
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:47 GMT
#3599
On April 08 2014 02:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote:
the simple fact is jat, 4 townies/random people died last night and nobody claimed the shot, that's likely meaning that's 4 kp for scum because those shots would be retarded for townies to make

No shit sherlock. The simple fact is also that you don't know if those were the factional kills.

On April 08 2014 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
and if they did make them and claimed, the claim would be so out there that they'd have to be town and even if they weren't town they would be super accountable at the end of the game

Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:47 GMT
#3600
so you have to assume that because nobody claimed the shots that scum made them and 7-8 scum team seems pretty ok with all the roles we have so far
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:52 GMT
#3602
if you have some other kind of thing to say then say it because right now you are being retarded

there were 4 nk's, nobody claimed a vig shot on them or anything of the kind, that means there are 7-8 scum
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 17:59 GMT
#3605
On April 08 2014 02:54 justanothertownie wrote:
No, that means there are 4 dead people. We can't know if those were the factional mafia KP or mafia role KP or 3rd party KP or what not. You are the one being retarded.
Maybe there are 7-8 scum. I don't know that and you don't either unless you are scum yourself.
End of discussion.


there is no possible way this game is 5 scum vs 25 or less than that
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:00 GMT
#3606
unless you're assuming people got double stacked and they used extra kp to hide the fact they did that? in which case it still doesn't matter because then there are still likely 7-8 people on the scum team ~_~

why are you even disagreeing this is pointless
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:03 GMT
#3607
Not voting (10): IAmRobik, LSB, austinmcc, iamperfection, strongandbig, Palmar, Djodref, Oatsmaster, VisceraEyes, sandroba


these people need to sort their shit out
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:05 GMT
#3611
On April 08 2014 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose.


who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:06 GMT
#3612
On April 08 2014 03:04 Koshi wrote:
Hopeless. Is he town?
This shopkeeper thing sounds quite townie but mehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

The only thing that is town about it is that if he is scum the scummers can easily make the device.


was va your check thing?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:13 GMT
#3617
On April 08 2014 03:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 03:05 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 03:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I won't discuss this with you any further. It leads nowhere and I got the feeling that you are being dense on purpose.


who really cares, i've given you a list, you are arguing about numbers not the people on the list, your point is irrelevant to the game

I already gave my opinion on the people before that. Really HF? How are people sure this guy is town? Only because of his role?


no, you are ON the list, because me and a select few do not know your alignment so clearly something must be wrong somewhere for us to not realise you are town, why can't the rest be wrong? why do you just blindly accept instead of trying to disprove the list or approve it

if you think i'm scum then why do you agree with my entire list - you and oats or w/e? am i thus bussing EVERYONE?????

i've given you a list, you increasingly think i am scummy, you do nothing to see or check whether what i'm saying is right


i'm still comfortable with you on the list
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#3620
tis cool if we get 2 scum
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#3621
i hope :o
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:10 GMT
#3628
loool all of that list is like town
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:15 GMT
#3632
On April 08 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
I really think JAT is town, but I can get down with the vast majority of that list.

from the questionable guy in town pile

On April 08 2014 02:06 IAmRobik wrote:
JAT and oats prolly town.


guy whose scum list was all town pretty much

On April 06 2014 02:35 sandroba wrote:
I have jat as town because of the guy number 2 comment. I win.

joke post

On April 06 2014 02:34 marvellosity wrote:
I basically think jat is too confrontational and bitchy to be mafia. And he made me giggle a couple times.


dead 3p
On April 06 2014 02:36 Koshi wrote:
wow everybody wants to be jats friend.
I was first tbh.

irrelevant because he's not totally playing



so no not really, not anyone that counts is town reading you (sorry koshi brooo)
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:17 GMT
#3634
marv 3p wins with town*

is that the only thing you care about? if that 1 person was town reading you or not?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:18 GMT
#3635
he super hardcore town read iamp and iamp is likely scum so excuse me while i dont trust everything he says
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:25 GMT
#3638
no but it doesn't mean they are right either? so excuse me while i take everything you say with a pinch of salt
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#3640
there are 3p's that win with town too
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:26 GMT
#3641
it doesn't say "you are a town x" just says "you win with town" so i assumed it was 3p
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:28 GMT
#3644
On April 08 2014 04:27 justanothertownie wrote:
How do you know? Do you really think marv was 3p? I think you slipped bro.


keirathi and gumshoe are green and it mentions them being town

marv was blue and it mentions him only winning with town
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:30 GMT
#3651
yes my pm says win with town and it doesn't say i'm town and i'm blue so i assumed it was 3p because there have been greens that said they were town and had a power too (i checked and gumshoes doesnt by he has a power and keirathis does and he also had power)
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:33 GMT
#3654
On April 08 2014 04:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you honestly thought that you were 3p, amiko is claimed 3p, and scum shot 3 3ps on night one?

And that makes sense to you?


scum shot 3 towny looking people and i assumed they were 3p yeh x_x
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:34 GMT
#3657
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:35 GMT
#3659
there is also in my filter clear evidence that i knew that to be the case, where people say "his role is anti town so he must be mafia" - oats

and i say

"no i dont think so because powers aren't alignment indicative"

is that what i do to spread an agenda?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:37 GMT
#3663
On April 08 2014 04:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:35 Holyflare wrote:
there is also in my filter clear evidence that i knew that to be the case, where people say "his role is anti town so he must be mafia" - oats

and i say

"no i dont think so because powers aren't alignment indicative"

is that what i do to spread an agenda?

That is in no way "clear evidence".


no but it's evidence that shows i KNOW it to be the case
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:39 GMT
#3665
i looked up the mafia awards to find the most towny themed game and didn't get a conclusion but then i saw the vote for the best mafia role and dimensional lemming was there so then I knew that alignments weren't based on powers
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:42 GMT
#3667
On April 08 2014 04:39 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, does anyone belive HF here? I could have bought it if he said that he forgot the "You win with the town" maybe but his explanation "oh I thought I and all the flipped people were 3p" is something only a cornered scum would pull out.


i didn't think the win with town bit meant town originally and i thought i was 3p because palmar said at the start of d1 or something "i dont know what alignment i am hosts won't tell me" and i thought to myself "oh that must mean im 3p too then" because i thought it would just say i was town in my pm but it didn't
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:43 GMT
#3668
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:44 GMT
#3670
hence why i've called palmar a 3p multiple times rather than town
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:44 GMT
#3672
On April 08 2014 04:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Yeah and obviously marv and Foolishness and rayn and Kita all were 3p too. Because there are more 3p in this game than other factions.


believe what you want
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:45 GMT
#3676
yes ok vote me off and see that i'm town and then follow my list
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:45 GMT
#3677
doesn't honestly bother me
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:47 GMT
#3678
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:51 GMT
#3684
I made the list myself in pm land and sent it to everyone and updated the 1 or 2 i wasn't sure on, generally people agree on it
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:53 GMT
#3687
On April 08 2014 04:52 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:47 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:43 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:41 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 04:34 Holyflare wrote:
look it's irrelevant you know what i am

i'm a blue dimensional lemming and i changed it to a pm game? why would i claim a role that was traditionally a mafia role in the thread if i wasn't town that would just be retarded
How is that retarded?


because i wouldn't know that powers can be any alignment this game if im scum so i'd assume it would be a mafia power if i was mafia.......... as i only checked the mafia awards and it said it was a mafia role
Wait, what?

Why is what you did, "Hey guys I'm softhard claiming dimensional lemming" retarded to do as mafia?


i've never seen dimensional lemming in a game before so the only knowledge i have is that it's a mafia role (if i was mafia) and also the fact that i checked the awards thread where lemming was voted best mafia role. So there is no knowledge that lemming COULD be town in this game so there is 0% chance that i would risk claiming lemming this game if i was mafia at the start of the game onwards, that's why it would be retarded (to me at least)
SO HERE'S WHY I ASK

You were softhard claiming this on D1. A bunch. This is a 30 person game. 29 of the people are NOT YOU.

And the ENTIRE time you're doing this, how many people said "dimensional lemming was a mafia role last time, therefore HF is mafia."

I believe the answer is 0. If it's higher, it's like 1-2 max.

You have straight up evidence from this game that people don't just connect a role that's been mafia once to being mafia always. How can you think it would be otherwise? You can't honestly say it's retarded and people would think this when you KNOW they don't, because THEY JUST DIDN'T.


yes that's fine to say when it's already happened but if i'm mafia why would i think they would agree that it's not alignment indicative if the only evidence is that it's only been a scum role!?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 19:59 GMT
#3691
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:00 GMT
#3692
you can think i'm mafia till the cows come home but it doesn't change the fact that i'm not mafia
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:11 GMT
#3695
On April 08 2014 05:03 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:59 Holyflare wrote:
look austin i don't care, i'm talking about the past "it would have been retarded to claim" is implied to be retarded to claim at the start of the day 1 i'm not talking about now
You DID claim D1 with all your questions.

You stood up in front of 29 people and said "I really like animals that live in water, and swim, and have gills, animals that we can cook and eat, animals that are grouped into a category that starts with the letter F"

29 people just looked at you

You stood up in front of 29-x people the next day and said "It would be stupid for anyone to say they liked Fish. Because people who like Fish in the past have been mafia."



We all KNEW you meant you liked fish on D1. And we just looked at you, we didn't call you mafia. So it's entirely illogical for you to think, today, that saying you like fish makes people think you're mafia.





BUT THAT'S EVEN BESIDE THE POINT BECAUSE MY REAL PROBLEM IS BEFORE THIS WHOLE BIT.



no, i'm saying i got my role pm, it was blue, it doesn't say i'm town at all it just says i win with town so i'm like, that's weird wording but whatever what game shall i make it that's town favoured? i see palmar say it doesn't say his alignment, i think to myself! hey mine doesn't say that either, maybe i'm just like palmar! it doesn't say i'm town so maybe i'm 3p! check op - it says there are some 3p's where it says win with town, ok whatever i guess i am 3p!

in the meantime i go to awards thread and look for top town rated themed games, see lemming as mafia rated top game role, see games i dont really want to use here because it could go wrong, ask around in thread more and more, decide pm game!

lynch gumshoe, gumshoe has power, gumshoe is green, confirms my thoughts that i'm 3p because green people have powers too! keirathi, marv, foolishness and kita die! hey their powers are all weird not totally towny powers and they are all blue, maybe it's a super game with lots of 3p's! (drunk out of my mind on weekend too so not really paying attention)! game is pm game now, pm nobody, get pm'd by town heros, make good list of scum

here we are
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:12 GMT
#3696
missed out the bit where oats says va is obviously scum because he claimed scum power - i say powers aren't alignment indicative

that happens after i read award thread
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:22 GMT
#3701
look austin honestly i'm not going to defend myself anymore, i've got scum to find and you can shoot me or lynch me or do whatever you want with me if there's doubt in your mind, i don't care! i wasn't invested in this game over the weekend so everything i checked was just blurs on my phone while i was out

On April 08 2014 02:02 Holyflare wrote:
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Djodref - likely modkill
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6. raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, but i'm not convinced
22. Killing
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



this is my updated list
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:24 GMT
#3702
i know how it always is and all those games said you are a town X if you were blue so i assumed this game was different, oh the humanity!

tell me what's wrong in my list if you think "it's bad" like you've stated and when i flip town you can be accountable for your reads
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:34 GMT
#3712
On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind

I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk).

I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.

I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie.

I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.


isn't poofter getting nuked by syllo.............................?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:44 GMT
#3722
On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?


it doesn't make sense because

A) if i was mafia, i wouldn't have that same notion that "blue's might be 3p in this game because it doesn't say they are town" unless my pm was phrased similarly

B) there is no mafia reasoning at all other than jat bringing up stuff about "in my pm it says about winning with town" which also applies to what i thought was 3p role pm's (op says about 3p's winning with town etc.)

so in no position does anything i've said imply that i've slipped up or anything, just that i was wrong about the colour blue and them being town/3p which has nothing to do with being mafia regardless

Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:48 GMT
#3726
On April 08 2014 04:53 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 04:50 Koshi wrote:
why we care so much about HF. His list looks pretty good.
He is not lynch material except if he stole this list from people who were going to bring this list public really soonish and HF just posted it fast for town cred.

I am lynching many peoples on the list before HF tbh.
His list is bad and is the "people not voting" list. There are a number of folks on there who are unlikely to be mafia.

The kita/foolishness list, modified in a couple ways, is better (drop syllo for his scum claim, drop poofter for being dead, drop amiko for the syllo bit)



On April 08 2014 05:31 austinmcc wrote:
Well, for one, everyone is green and apparently there was a big difference between green and blue in your mind

I would color JAT townie. He's on the right track here, he looked alright to me previously. The only hesitation is him not wanting a syllo shot and then being perfectly fine with syllo as a lynch option, but he can go to the bottom of a townpile, as I was townie myself on syllo D1 (although I didn't flop from townie --> good lynch like JAT seems to have (before the whole visitation and poofter check junk).

I color poofter only slightly less town, not as a lynch for today, but to follow his checks and make sure he's doing what he says he's doing. Syllo is a very visible player, and became SUPER visible today. If scum think they're going to lose him soonish no matter what, and poofter looks iffy, he's fine to say he's got a red check on syllo.

I would color rayn honorary red for killing a townie.

I think I like that WoS read, not sure on that hopeless one.


why did you say the list was bad but then change exactly 1 thing..............? so then the list is in fact good?
you also mention poofter is dying today but then say he isn't to be trusted not long after? wut
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:51 GMT
#3729
austin doesn't get anything and neither do you
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April 07 2014 20:55 GMT
#3731
On April 08 2014 05:47 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 05:39 strongandbig wrote:
austin you've been talking a lot about this holyflare role confusion thing but why does it make him scum

break down the scenario for me

like, are you trying to say it's a literal scumslip because he didnt know how the town wincon was phrased? or is there something more than that?
It's maybe a combo. He's a person I've been suspicious of, so start from a suspicious mindset if you're trying to be in my head.

(1) There's something that might be a slip (does not know how town role PMs are phrased). It MIGHT be a weird thought from town.

(2) When trying to explain the thing in (1), he says things that are not true (Keirathi' and Gumshoe's role PMs say they're town and not that they win with town ---> this is false). Saying things that are untrue is more likely to be mafia than town, means it's more likely a slip than a weird thought, because a townie having a weird thought doesn't use untruths to substantiate his weird thoughts.

(3) Continues to argue that the statement from (1) is a weird thought from a townie, by saying
  • I cannot be mafia, because it would be dumb for mafia to have my role and claim it.
  • I assumed all the people with "win with the town" were 3P


(4) The FIRST bit there, that he can't be mafia because of the claim, is not of any value. It's clear from THIS GAME that when you claim dimensional lemming, not everyone thinks you're mafia. This is important because HOLY CRAP HE'S THE DIMENSIONAL LEMMING HIMSELF, HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACTED TO HIS CLAIM, AND THEREFORE HE KNOWS HOW PEOPLE REACT TO A CLAIM, AND IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE'S SAYING. Does that make sense? He is implying he's town because mafia would do what he's done, because x would happen. We all KNOW x wouldn't happen, so his argument is just based on a falsehood.

The SECOND bit there requires him assuming at least 5-6 third parties in this game. Which I think is ridiculous, and cannot be a legitimate thought he had.


Because of (2), him using untruths to try and show how his thought was townie and not a mafia slip, and because of (4), how his further comments are nonsensical coming from a townie/being real thoughts, and HF is not normally a person to just hold a bunch of nonsensical thoughts, it looks more like he's making things up to try and make his comment look more like a dumb comment than a slip.


this is getting hilarious

1) not a slip, mafia would know about blues and greens being town and not 3p
2) keirathi and gumshoe are green with powers (which confirmed my point in my mind) and come from a point in time of the game where i wasn't really paying attention like i've stated multiple times in the game
3/4) if the only precedent is that dimensional lemming is a mafia role then yes, it is retarded for mafia to start claiming dimensional lemming on day 1 (how can i predict the future of what people are going to say...?)




this whole thing is retarded from jat/austin and it's why i'm not really sure why i trust people's reads of them! like, whatever if you don't believe me i don't care, you can lynch me at some point when things start not adding up or check me or do whatever?

i've told you my side of the story, you've said yours, there's literally 0 need to keep hammering on about it and making it a big deal because people know the information! i've given you a list which you called bad but you agree with all of it, why is that?

Holyflare
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April 07 2014 20:56 GMT
#3733
nvm about the end you've answered it
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 21:26 GMT
#3737
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 21:34 GMT
#3740
On April 08 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is.

Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role.


What...? I'm saying i DID talk about it how are you being so dense. I am saying that it proves I'm not mafia because if i was mafia i got a traditionally mafia sided role and then started talking about it in thread straight away which would be suicide. That does not add up at all!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 07 2014 21:45 GMT
#3746
On April 08 2014 06:37 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:28 austinmcc wrote:
On April 08 2014 06:26 Holyflare wrote:
I've never played nor read a greymist game hence my confusion and only knowing about lemming from the award thread. Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
That is mainly in response to Killing asking me what my "theory" about the color difference is.

Also, I will continue to maintain that you DID talk about your role D1. Just look at my first posts. I was pretty confident you were EXACTLY what you're claiming to be, because who asks those questions repeatedly. The only reason anyone would ask about fun past games, or neat mechanics, is because they've got that role or a similar role.


What...? I'm saying i DID talk about it how are you being so dense. I am saying that it proves I'm not mafia because if i was mafia i got a traditionally mafia sided role and then started talking about it in thread straight away which would be suicide. That does not add up at all!
Show nested quote +
Unless you're implying i have read them in which case i knew lemming was a mafia role from last game and still would be 0% inclined to start talking about it day 1
You're saying that you DID talk about it, but saying that you WOULDN'T talk about it if you were mafia. I disagree with that. Yeah, we're not meeting heads on here, you DID talk about it, we agree, you WOULDN'T talk about it as mafia, we disagree there.

"Traditionally" is a stretch.

And again. What you're arguing is that when someone talks about that role, people will assume they're mafia. THAT is your reason for saying mafia wouldn't talk about having this role.

But nobody assumed you were mafia for your role. 29 people, 0 assumptions. So your argument that mafiaHoly wouldn't talk about his role is WEAK at best, MEANINGLESS to me, because we KNOW that people don't do what you are saying you think they would.



THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING, why would i take that risk!?!?!?!? how can i predict the future that everyone would just put it aside, if i was mafia HOW DO I KNOW that powers don't = alignments, I CANNOT know that unless i got a mafia role but in a town (or what i thought was 3p town win con) alignment!
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 21:48 GMT
#3751
zzzzzzzzzzz i've given you the list and you're just sheeping it now
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#3777
On April 08 2014 08:21 Koshi wrote:
We can pray djodref is scum and VE scumslipped for no reason at all.

BELIEVE 2014!!!!!!

where did ve scum claim?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 07 2014 23:28 GMT
#3778
why did oats keep saying va was scum but then drop off the face of the earth?
Holyflare
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April 07 2014 23:34 GMT
#3783
On April 08 2014 08:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
##unvote

##vote oatsmaster


lol?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:47 GMT
#3797
I dun placed bombs on scums head!
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:50 GMT
#3798
inb4 explosions
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:52 GMT
#3800
On April 08 2014 09:50 Paperscraps wrote:


happy exploding
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 00:54 GMT
#3801
i'm kidding scrapsface you aren't exploding
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:55 GMT
#3804
oats is exploding though, so is ve
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:57 GMT
#3807
On April 08 2014 09:56 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote:
oats is exploding though, so is ve


Well in that case, good shit


it's good the claimed cop is exploding is it?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:57 GMT
#3808
you want a bomb on your head killing?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:58 GMT
#3810
you have 2 minutes to convince me not to
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 00:59 GMT
#3813
On April 08 2014 09:59 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 09:58 Holyflare wrote:
you have 2 minutes to convince me not to


Besides the fact that I just activated a power that reduces chaos counter to 0 which basically confirms me as town?


i dunno what chaos counter does, why can't town like chaos?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:00 GMT
#3815
On April 08 2014 09:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Sorry buddy, but you are crazy

##Ruby: sandroba

Everything I said was genuine.

??
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:01 GMT
#3817
##Bomb Justanothertownie!
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:02 GMT
#3821


Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:06 GMT
#3826
replaced..............?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:06 GMT
#3828
jat wtf does ruby do then? and why did you write some soppy goodbye message?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:06 GMT
#3829
On April 08 2014 10:06 IAmRobik wrote:
Am I mistaken or do we need to look at people that tried to push iamp ahead of syllo in the voting?


not at all because it was just for a second majority
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#3832
yeh that's -1 jat then, standard list of awesome wins games
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#3833
On April 08 2014 10:07 GreYMisT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:06 Holyflare wrote:
replaced..............?


It is my game standard to replace players who are inactive until after day 2


it's cool, i'll bomb him!
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#3834
anyone know why yamato died?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#3839
On April 08 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:07 Holyflare wrote:
yeh that's -1 jat then, standard list of awesome wins games

I am not scum. You should concentrate on other people.


but a lynch on you is a lynch on not town
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#3847
just tell us your win con because right now sandro is in a fortress of wtf defence and will never die
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:13 GMT
#3853
On April 08 2014 10:12 geript wrote:
Hey Keirathi I want to sheep you all game. Who do you trust the least right now?


you are dying tonight
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:15 GMT
#3860
Just a heads up.

I am immune to NK's tonight. I cannot be roleblocked with this item I was given too. Tomorrow will be cell mafia, every person is split into groups of 3 people and each group contains 1 mafia.

GL scum. You lose.
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:17 GMT
#3866
On April 08 2014 10:17 Koshi wrote:
Stupid syllo v2 nuke killed yamato.
WoW I am mildly sad even 2 scummers died. Like... I also forgot about nuke.... but 2-2???
If there are 7 scummers in start this is ridiculous. Too many 3p as well that dont interfefe wigh scum wincon??? Some1 should count.

Dnu why I am still awake.


how do you know this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:19 GMT
#3871
On April 08 2014 10:18 IAmRobik wrote:
holyflare. What if there are not an equal number of players? How do you think it will be split up?


badly
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:20 GMT
#3874
On April 08 2014 10:20 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
So...somebody vig geript k?

Don't tempt me Wave... Don't do it.


role claim or you will actually die
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:20 GMT
#3875
On April 08 2014 10:20 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:17 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:17 Koshi wrote:
Stupid syllo v2 nuke killed yamato.
WoW I am mildly sad even 2 scummers died. Like... I also forgot about nuke.... but 2-2???
If there are 7 scummers in start this is ridiculous. Too many 3p as well that dont interfefe wigh scum wincon??? Some1 should count.

Dnu why I am still awake.


how do you know this?

I am extremely smart.
Also probability.

Even though somewhat strange he would use it also can fall on scum head or not?

Doesnt matter. Just very likely.


this is way too odd
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:26 GMT
#3890
lol palmar has to actually play the game now
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#3891
On April 08 2014 10:26 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2014 06:58 Keirathi wrote:
Okay, already in just the first few pages of syllo's filter from CT, there is a glaring thing missing from him in this game. Syllo and sandro are super good friends, and discuss mafia games between each other all the time and have an uncanny knack for reading each other. In CT, syllo kept poking at sandro trying to get a read on him, and then posted this:

On November 24 2012 05:40 syllogism wrote:
I was going to wait until tomorrow so I could see who people are pushing today without me, to an extent, locking down discussion. I don't think it's particularly working though and kita can't wait (whether he is town remains to be seen, but I don't think it's worth the gamble).

I'm fairly certain that sandroba is mafia. He hasn't done anything useful whole game long and he definitely could have. Everything that I've said about him before is still applicable. Even if he has been busy, it was by choice. No one forced him to run for election and he could have at any time dropped out and supported me. If he was town, I think he would have as soon as he figured out that I'm town.

Moreover, his attitude when he came back is still wrong. Instead of attempting to convince me or even address me, he just addresses everyone generally. He claims that I have been paranoid about his alignment in merc mini and that 80+ player game, but that is false or an exaggeration. In the huge game I was, in fact, pushing him for mayor on day 1 (we were both town). In merc mini I was only slightly suspicious because his ability completely broke the game, but I never wanted to lynch him at any point; the only suspicions were voiced over PM.

If he was town, he would be attempting to convince me, not play down my ability to read him accurately. To those who believe sandroba is town, what do you think mafia did on day 1? Who is mafia? Did they really have no one who could have ran and won? Do you think it's kita or acro were the mafia candidates then?


The whole thing is pretty telling of their relationship, but the bolded in particular: why isn't syllo trying to convince sandro that he is town this game? Why does he seem to be avoiding sandro altogether?

Yea, I think syllo is probably scum.

Ok so I knew I was replacing in earlier today and have semi-been following the thread. I started off by filtering Keirathi because he's the shit and has amazing meta reads. I don't get why he calls hopeless town but I'm 100% going to sheep that. The important thing is this post which burried Syllogism. The specific thing that I think Keirathi didn't look at was that the true is essentially the same as Sandroba.


you should sheep me because my list wins the game
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#3893
and full role claim
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:28 GMT
#3896
geript if you don't full role claim i will legitimately bomb you
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:28 GMT
#3900
On April 08 2014 10:28 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:28 Holyflare wrote:
geript if you don't full role claim i will legitimately bomb you

You can try but I don't think it will go through.


no it 1000% will go through any and all protections
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:32 GMT
#3909
Paraphrasing:


Congratulations! You have completed the trial and have averted Catastrophe! Your prize? Something Catastrophic of course!

You have received a Bomb of Obliterating Mean Baddies (BOMB), you can use this on any person in the game at any time to kill that person regardless of protection.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:34 GMT
#3913
On April 08 2014 10:34 geript wrote:
It's pretty scummy to use that on a green check. Not sure what I'm going to do tonight, I'll figure it out after video mafia.


we don't believe it
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:34 GMT
#3917
so claim right now, putting it off is just claiming scum at this point!
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#3921
On April 08 2014 10:34 Oatsmaster wrote:
Aw sick. Holyflare, why did you play so badly day 1 then if you are so imba?


i told you i wasn't playing at all during the weekend and was getting wasted till today where i solved the game
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#3925
On April 08 2014 10:35 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:34 WaveofShadow wrote:
How do you know sandro is insane then and how do you know he's the only one?

At the start of each night I get a list of all insane people and I also get to know how many of them are able to cause insanity.


what does insanity do?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:36 GMT
#3927
why didn't you tell us yamato was dying ve?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:37 GMT
#3931
On April 08 2014 10:37 geript wrote:
I'll go ahead and say though that yall definitely want to be able to eat. Because not eating is far less fun that eating.

no you won't go ahead and say that because i just showed you what my bomb does and you WILL die
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:38 GMT
#3935
On April 08 2014 10:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:36 Holyflare wrote:
why didn't you tell us yamato was dying ve?

I told you I don't know in advance, I get notification WHEN it happens, not before.

Does it help you to know that I was notified that Yamato died?

yes
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:40 GMT
#3939
On April 08 2014 10:39 Killing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:32 Holyflare wrote:
Paraphrasing:


Congratulations! You have completed the trial and have averted Catastrophe! Your prize? Something Catastrophic of course!

You have received a Bomb of Obliterating Mean Baddies (BOMB), you can use this on any person in the game at any time to kill that person regardless of protection.


Just curious, did this coincide when I used my The future blah blah: LSB?

who knows?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:43 GMT
#3946
##BOMB Geript
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:43 GMT
#3947
gg geript you bad
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:44 GMT
#3951
On April 08 2014 10:44 geript wrote:
##DODGE


yeh that's not going to happen

cya
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:44 GMT
#3953
host
host

plz respond
plz
plz
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:45 GMT
#3955
oh snap nvm it goes off end of phase trololol
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:50 GMT
#3968
I cannot un-bomb a person.
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:51 GMT
#3972
not having a person who says he's read a bit to replace and the first thing he does is troll and says he'll sheep dead people


call it a policy bomb because bro


I am modconfirmed town right now.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:52 GMT
#3973
On April 08 2014 10:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:50 Holyflare wrote:
I cannot un-bomb a person.

Did you bomb me for real or does it not count if you don't bold?


doesn't count if it's not bolded
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:53 GMT
#3975
On April 08 2014 10:15 Holyflare wrote:
Just a heads up.

I am immune to NK's tonight. I cannot be roleblocked with this item I was given too. Tomorrow will be cell mafia, every person is split into groups of 3 people and each group contains 1 mafia.

GL scum. You lose.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
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April 08 2014 01:55 GMT
#3980
Geript I'm just going to tell you now.


I actually CAN stop the bomb. If I die it goes off regardless so it's in your interest to claim right now or prove you are super town.
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 01:57 GMT
#3985
On April 08 2014 10:56 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:55 Holyflare wrote:
Geript I'm just going to tell you now.


I actually CAN stop the bomb. If I die it goes off regardless so it's in your interest to claim right now or prove you are super town.

Role =/= alignment


so you have an anti town role then?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:02 GMT
#3990
On April 08 2014 11:00 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 10:57 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:56 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 10:55 Holyflare wrote:
Geript I'm just going to tell you now.


I actually CAN stop the bomb. If I die it goes off regardless so it's in your interest to claim right now or prove you are super town.

Role =/= alignment


so you have an anti town role then?

lulz I'm town. By definition my role is not anti-town Now if you wanted to claim that I'm anti-town regardless of alignment, that might actually be true but whatevs at best you're hypocritical.


uh no that's not true your role CAN be anti-town, not using it doesn't stop it being any LESS anti-town so just full role claim because the bomb is actually going to kill you and I KNOW you can't stop it
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:05 GMT
#3994
The list!

1. Keirathi
2. Geript - famine, green checked by ve (untrustworthy) bombed at the moment - may be able to stop it if he proves town status
3. Holyflare
4.Tehpoofter
5. Koshi
6.raynpelikoneet
7. marvellosity
8. Dandel Ion
9. syllogism
10. iamperfection
11. kitaman27
12. Oatsmaster
13. strongandbig
14. VisceraEyes - green checked djo/geript (weird check on djo, don't trust atm)
15. austinmcc - from multiple sources outside
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der
18. justanothertownie - 3p town hero wannabe killer
19. WaveofShadow
20. LSB
21. Paperscraps - someone trustworthy thinks this guy is town, starting to lean that way
22. Killing - starting to look towny to me imo but still can't be sure (power reduces chaos counter so hmmmmm)
23. Foolishness
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar
26. yamato77
27. IAmRobik - too many wrong reads
28. sandroba
29. gumshoe
30. Blazinghand



new scummy list until further notice:

2. Geript - waiting for role claim or he will explode, possibly town with claim
12. Oatsmaster
14. VisceraEyes - possibly cop
16. Amiko
17. Hopeless1der - maybe
20. LSB
24. VayneAuthority
25. Palmar - maybe
27. IAmRobik


I have removed both shop people from the town list because otherwise there is potential for it to not add up. I'm hesitant to call them scum though.

Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:13 GMT
#4003
On April 08 2014 11:08 justanothertownie wrote:
Seriously HF. If you think I would publicly announce a shot on sandro as scum you are crazy. But whatever I don't trust you anyways.


there is only red, blue, green and black

you're a 3p killer (as noted) and in italics not normal red
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:13 GMT
#4004
On April 08 2014 11:08 Paperscraps wrote:
@HF - Why do think Dandelion is town?


i just know™
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:16 GMT
#4009
VA I want to town read you, I do! People advised against it and I can't be sure with the remaining people. Anyone you think I should add instead?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:17 GMT
#4010
I actually thought you are quite towny tho
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:20 GMT
#4017
cell mafia will make the game easy
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:21 GMT
#4021
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.


so you're saying it's a 4 man mafia team vs 26?
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:22 GMT
#4023
On April 08 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
cell mafia will make the game easy

Do you have any idea how 3rd party players will be implemented there? I don't.


yes they are counted as town regardless of win con, mafia are the ones split into each cell
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:24 GMT
#4028
On April 08 2014 11:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:22 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:20 Holyflare wrote:
cell mafia will make the game easy

Do you have any idea how 3rd party players will be implemented there? I don't.


yes they are counted as town regardless of win con, mafia are the ones split into each cell

Splendid. Did you ask the host? I hope you don't just assume that.


of course
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:24 GMT
#4030
yes
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:36 GMT
#4042
tomorrow is an lsb lynch btw
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:50 GMT
#4049
if jat killed foolish there are then 3 scum kills, that means there are 5-6 scum only, we killed 2 so there are 3-4, originally we assumed there was 7 or 8 in which case we'd be against 5 or 6 scum now.

VA knows the amount of people in a scum team this game.


On April 08 2014 11:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.


so you're saying it's a 4 man mafia team vs 26?


yea man and then the other 2 players are me and me I actually hold two slots in this game.

Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:52 GMT
#4050
lynch with fire and brimstone
Holyflare
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April 08 2014 02:56 GMT
#4052
On April 08 2014 11:54 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:50 Holyflare wrote:
if jat killed foolish there are then 3 scum kills, that means there are 5-6 scum only, we killed 2 so there are 3-4, originally we assumed there was 7 or 8 in which case we'd be against 5 or 6 scum now.

VA knows the amount of people in a scum team this game.


On April 08 2014 11:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.


so you're saying it's a 4 man mafia team vs 26?


yea man and then the other 2 players are me and me I actually hold two slots in this game.


Maybe I mafia tried to test my claim and tried to kill Koshi?


lynch va with fire
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 03:02 GMT
#4055
i know where the majority of actions went and they most definitely would not have shot koshi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 03:10 GMT
#4059
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.




On April 05 2014 07:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't get behind a gumshoe lynch because of the unnamed 4th horse. Pretty sure VE is town no idea on the other 2


On April 07 2014 03:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
looks like none of us? VE DT confirmed djo as town, so he is also town and I am town with an incredibly bad role. gumshoe is flipped. so really the only possibility could be VE just faking his dt check and he is mafia but dont really care about that right now

On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.

On April 08 2014 11:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 11:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.

One of the 2 horses? How can VE be town if Geript is mafia?


Then you already figured out which one im starting to lean scum on mr.genius


what made you change your mind between all of these things VA?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 03:14 GMT
#4062
On April 08 2014 12:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 12:10 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.




On April 05 2014 07:40 VayneAuthority wrote:
I can't get behind a gumshoe lynch because of the unnamed 4th horse. Pretty sure VE is town no idea on the other 2


On April 07 2014 03:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
looks like none of us? VE DT confirmed djo as town, so he is also town and I am town with an incredibly bad role. gumshoe is flipped. so really the only possibility could be VE just faking his dt check and he is mafia but dont really care about that right now

On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.

On April 08 2014 11:21 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:20 justanothertownie wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:19 VayneAuthority wrote:
On April 08 2014 11:18 justanothertownie wrote:
If you value my opinion - you should remain careful. I have no idea why syllo and especially iamp gave up so easily but it doesn't seem like town has this in the bag. Iamp didn't even try to fight back for some reason.


have you seen the rest of their team? it starts with LSB and one of the 2 horrible horses left in my division. They are close to the end.

One of the 2 horses? How can VE be town if Geript is mafia?


Then you already figured out which one im starting to lean scum on mr.genius


what made you change your mind between all of these things VA?

Whoa.
Are you reading the thread and shit?


gotta get a win after that shit show cell mafia ruined my 9-0
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 03:16 GMT
#4063
10-0* :O
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 03:25 GMT
#4064
but whatever, going to bed!

geript you really need to full role claim or you will explode

va, reply or mafiaz


cell mafia confirmed tomorrow, gg (might not be around tomoz)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 07:20 GMT
#4088
Hopeless, shop me!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 11:33 GMT
#4139
Tick tock Geript.

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 11:37 GMT
#4142
On April 08 2014 20:35 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its VE kinda confirming totally possible lynchbait if hes scum.
But no, you just think its as simple as ve claiming a green check on geript.

No. I'm just saying that the role that he has claimed is a believable role claim to me. I really don't care what you think. If I had a gun I'd shoot you before HF(bomb might not be real), Amiko (claimed 3P), JAT (apparently also claimed 3PM) or anyone else.


So, let's get this straight.

You think Sandroba is the same level of scummyness as Syllo (who was scum). You think i'm also scummy, you'd shoot me after oats, yet, when Sandroba tells you to sheep MY list you blindly go "ok, let's follow that!"???????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 11:41 GMT
#4147
On April 08 2014 20:41 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 20:37 Holyflare wrote:
On April 08 2014 20:35 geript wrote:
On April 08 2014 20:32 Oatsmaster wrote:
Its VE kinda confirming totally possible lynchbait if hes scum.
But no, you just think its as simple as ve claiming a green check on geript.

No. I'm just saying that the role that he has claimed is a believable role claim to me. I really don't care what you think. If I had a gun I'd shoot you before HF(bomb might not be real), Amiko (claimed 3P), JAT (apparently also claimed 3PM) or anyone else.


So, let's get this straight.

You think Sandroba is the same level of scummyness as Syllo (who was scum). You think i'm also scummy, you'd shoot me after oats, yet, when Sandroba tells you to sheep MY list you blindly go "ok, let's follow that!"???????

It's a starting point. I really don't care that Sandroba gave me your list instead of making one of his own. You can be decent as town. I just needed a starting point. Btw you've probably townread at least 1-2 scum so you should fix that.


why do you assume that?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 11:47 GMT
#4150
how do you know how many scum there are?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 11:56 GMT
#4153
that's cool, i'll just find all the scum and you can blow up now!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 12:12 GMT
#4157
oats why aren't you super pushing va as scum anymore?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 14:56 GMT
#4166
On April 08 2014 23:51 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2014 22:26 Koshi wrote:
Anyway,
JAT claim pretty strange.
JAT around HF pretty strange.
JAT not wanting that I killed syllo pretty strange.

I got some questions for JAT I guess.

1) When did you figure out what gem did.
2) Who gave it to you.
3) Why do you have such an easy wincon?

Didn't read rest of the thread yet but I can answer that.
1) I didn't need to figure it out I knew it as soon as I knew I got it but that was right before I messaged you because hosts forgot to notifiy me earlier.
2) I don't know. If I knew I wouldn't have asked you, would I?
3) It wouldn't have been easy if I hadn't shot Keirathi N1.

My claim is not strange. My behaviour around HF is not strange in the slightest and absolutely genuine. Read that shit - no way HF believed that he and like 10 other people were 3p. I did not want syllo to be shot because I had him as townread early and most important because people like him are horrible shots. You shoot lurky people who don't give you information when you wagon them. At that point syllo did not fit that bill (what if he had been town? yeah, you just shot one of the best townies in the game - grats). Also I changed my mind about him before the whole check thing - why would I do that as scum?


So I'm mafia who still believed they were 3p? :D
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 15:25 GMT
#4168
Already proven I'm town so np
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 17:16 GMT
#4200
On April 09 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Sandro,

Am I still saving who we discussed previously? Is anyone else saving that person?


What an interesting question robik
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 18:40 GMT
#4214
On April 09 2014 03:38 geript wrote:
@Sandroba. Why in gods green earth do you want to kill me? Like HF has beef or something and generally does stupid stuff as town so I can understand his thing from any alignment. But I don't get why you want me to die.


Because you have been quite categorically shit.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 18:52 GMT
#4217
On April 09 2014 03:48 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 03:40 Holyflare wrote:
On April 09 2014 03:38 geript wrote:
@Sandroba. Why in gods green earth do you want to kill me? Like HF has beef or something and generally does stupid stuff as town so I can understand his thing from any alignment. But I don't get why you want me to die.


Because you have been quite categorically shit.

Says the person who says I'm going to live or die based on whether or not I claim my role.


And you still will
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 18:53 GMT
#4218
On April 08 2014 20:33 Holyflare wrote:
Tick tock Geript.

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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 23:12 GMT
#4329
Jat if you don't shoot lsb i will kill you
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 23:14 GMT
#4330
I'm gonna make my list more pretty so you get a better idea of where I'm at
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 23:18 GMT
#4334
On April 09 2014 08:17 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
Jat if you don't shoot lsb i will kill you

Why don't you kill LSB YOURSELF then?

Because I'm not the anti town hero win con kp user
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 08 2014 23:23 GMT
#4342
On April 09 2014 08:22 Koshi wrote:
Actually. Geript can you defend button pls?
I think scum can't perform kill and defend button.
I am not sure but it makes sense. Otherwise not go for mass button pressing N1?

So all people that are defending button did not perform a NK.


town hero suggestions
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 09 2014 00:01 GMT
#4359
9. syllogism - lowest of low tiers
10. iamperfection - lowest of low tiers
12. Oatsmaster - low tier



16. Amiko - 3p low tier
18. justanothertownie - 3p lowest of low tiers
20. LSB - scum tier


24. VayneAuthority - scum tier



Confirmed Tier

Holyflare - Made the game PM game, sorted out the game plan list. Top of town.


Top Tier

Dandel - Too much talking, useful in PM's, people's meta reads on him too
Strongandbig - inquisitive, good questions, healed sandro and gave him vig shot
Sandroba - actually talks, good in PM's, trying to solve the unknown people and coordinate the ranks


High Tier

Koshi - Pro-town minion moves, helpful in PM's, listens to who he needs to and has helped with unknowns.
austinmcc - cleared by someone trustworthy, makes oddly
WaveofShadow - been helpful in pm's, towny responses to me trolling in pm's, hesitant to top tier him for some reason in my mind


above average Tier

Paperscraps - useful in pm's, liked his long post of reads they add up to mine pretty much
Killing - seemingly towny role but hesitant to trust


meh Tier

VE - checked djo which was super weird cz modkill/might be lying, little interest in game it seems, meh tier
Robik - night actions should reveal all
Geript - doesn't know who the hell has died and is spouting useless crap (read on killing was actually ok tho)



shop tier

palmar - useful
hopeless - seemingly useful


scum tier



9. syllogism - lowest of low tiers
10. iamperfection - lowest of low tiers
12. Oatsmaster - low tier



16. Amiko - 3p low tier
18. justanothertownie - 3p lowest of low tiers
20. LSB - scum tier


24. VayneAuthority - scum tier
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 09 2014 00:03 GMT
#4360
brb sex
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 22 2014 12:39 GMT
#6167
On April 22 2014 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Perfect play by town after the "town circle" killed BH on D2.

D2 syllo, iamp
N2 LSB
D3 no day
D4 Oatsmaster
D5 Oatsmaster (Couldn't be prevented, good play by town, just couldn't know he would autodie)
D6 VisceraEyes
D7 no lynch (special taktiks)
N7 Sandroba shot

I don't think any town kp hit town in that period.


I have no idea why you're so butthurt by the town circle. It wasn't even formed when BH died and BH died because mafia wanted to shoot him. Apart from that the game was pretty much solved by town circle and then Geript came in and tried to throw many spanners into the 3p claims...
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 22 2014 12:41 GMT
#6169
On April 22 2014 21:40 syllogism wrote:
I had a red check on me, Oats claimed mafia, VE claimed mafia

I give you credit for Iamp and LSB


List was made far before any of them claimed mafia.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 22 2014 12:43 GMT
#6171
On April 22 2014 21:42 syllogism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2014 21:41 Holyflare wrote:
On April 22 2014 21:40 syllogism wrote:
I had a red check on me, Oats claimed mafia, VE claimed mafia

I give you credit for Iamp and LSB


List was made far before any of them claimed mafia.

It was a game of clearing people based on claims, roles and activity

So like every game of mafia then.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 22 2014 14:28 GMT
#6207
On April 22 2014 22:01 Koshi wrote:
Holyflare his list? Where did that come from?
Was it Holyflare or towncircle?


I made a list and cross referenced with people and made a town circle list. Then I decided I didn't trust some of them so edited it to be my own list at the end.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
April 22 2014 14:30 GMT
#6208
While you may laugh about the town circle it was Sandro and dandel that got the roles of the unconfirmed and gave us that information in the town circle. Which was an odd thing to do for Sandro, he was basically helping us solve the game at the expense of his team :p
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