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sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscraps
which was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions
On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote: ##Vote: justanothertownie
JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.
Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.
Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.
hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post.
On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote: @exarezee
If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.
I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.
You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though. There's actual insight and thought here.
This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers.
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I think Paperscraps is a great lynch.
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On April 04 2014 20:31 Tehpoofter wrote: @Palmer... a post like that where you have basically everyone listed... I would expect that type of post from Robik by now but he would have maybe 15 names tops on his list instead of the whole town. You played Titanic with me Palmer what makes me scum this game as opposed to this game? What gave you that scum read?
@marv were there any other questions I missed? I think there was one from amiko I needed to look at but I closed the tab with the quote I had saved. Robik is pretty likely to be town. Lynch Paper with me instead, it's more fun.
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On April 04 2014 20:32 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:30 marvellosity wrote: I think Paperscraps is a great lynch. so you don't agree with the qt/ve thing? I do agree with it. But he still mafia. Probably.
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On April 04 2014 20:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Year old meta marv? For shame. Also Tehpoofter i thought it was pretty clear I didn't add you to he list because I didn't trust you, but I suppose that May not matter now either way. Could work out in everyone's best interests. When not phoneposting you will be added. A player does not suddenly lose all ability to be insightful and make thoughtful posts just because some time has passed. Don't be so blind.
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On April 04 2014 20:41 Tehpoofter wrote: @marv not sure I trust you tbh. I read robik as mafia and you were defending him pretty hard during the battle that was going on. Are you the type of player that would hard defend a scummate like that?
more importantly do other people think that Marv and Robik are likely to be connected as scummates, I know nothing of marv's play so outside input is encouraged. (even if you disagree with me that robik is scum would marv d-up hard day with a teammate?) I've never hard-defended a team-mate (anyone who knows me will verify) and Robik is not mafia.
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yes because i'd definitely lie about that when any other player in the game could simply tell me i was wrong.
that would definitely make sense.
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Also I am not wrong on Robik.
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I've observed or played in every game that Robik has played on TL Mafia.
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On April 03 2014 16:20 Paperscraps wrote: .early this other each at dirt throwing be would scum that unlikely Seems .VE out calling is Robik that is though weird is What .IAmRobik on read his with agree somewhat I .far so doing is Tehpoofter what like I
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I've no idea, Poof :D Whether you did or not, your posting can't possibly be neutral given he felt strongly enough about it beforehand to colour you green.
If your posting was somehow scummy in the interim, that still doesn't make you neutral, that makes you both good and bad. It's weak bullshittery.
Notice how he cheapens his read in the 2nd quote by relating it to video mafia and saying the neutral read on you is weak. It's like he totally forgot he gave you a good townread beforehand.
Probably because he's just making stuff up.
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we're still not lynching Robik tomorrow. Sorry buddy.
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btw the fact it was so hard to find that inconsistency goes to show how mafia-favoured his writing-backwards thing actually is.
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On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote: i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. If you disagree with the points I've put forwards, say why. Don't just go "bleh", that helps no-one and nothing.
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On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote: i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why.
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On April 04 2014 21:41 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:40 marvellosity wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 20:29 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:26 Holyflare wrote: i never said i had a town read on va? i just don't have a scum read on va Then why are you defending him with bad arguments? Isnt it beter to see how he reacts since you dont have a read on him? How is anything more game relevant than trying to get someone lynched????? because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. Actually you're reaching horribly and I don't really know why. How has anything VA done townie? VA in shit-tonne of his games never does anything townie as town. In fact he's known as being more "townie" and reasonable as mafia. You know this.
Claiming, unnecessarily, an anti-town role is actually somewhat townie. But no, apart from that he hasn't done anything townie. Sadly this does not make him mafia. You know this too.
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On April 04 2014 21:48 Koshi wrote: Well I am not doing anything special today. you're right, you really aren't.
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On April 04 2014 21:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 21:49 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:45 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:39 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:35 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:34 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 21:22 Holyflare wrote:On April 04 2014 21:11 Oatsmaster wrote:On April 04 2014 20:31 Holyflare wrote: [quote]
because if he's not reading the thread why would talking about va getting lynched do anything? he either finds gems in filter diving people and points them out to us or he doesn't and we CAN lynch him
there are way more things to talk about oats, stop talking about this -.- Its like 12 hours to lynch, and you are still pussyfooting around. Wow. Paper might be scum but then why is BH bussing him? Oh right maybe because BH not dying is better. hmm. Not really I give a reason to counter your argument that he is scum . I'm not saying he isn't I'm saying he has reasons to do this as town.... Paper scraps best lynch whatever man. Bleh all these sketchy dudes hopping on this paper lynch. Makes me feel ill. are you seriously saying you don't agree here? you don't outline ANYONE sketchy and your only contribution right now to this situation is va being mafia when evidence suggests that he could also be town HOlyflare on this. Amiko on this BH on this. Dude how is this not sketchy? And the VA thing is totally not town VA, there is 0 evidence suggesting he is town and many evidence suggesting he is scum. So, you have 3 sketchy people on this lynch. Yet you don't try and push any of those 3 sketchy people for a lynch, instead, you just complain there are sketchy people on a person that makes reads that don't add up, as proven just now? You then talk more about VA, who COULD be town or COULD be scum than your scummy looking people rather than talking about the person of conversation at the time? Why are you being so weird oats? Instead I push my stronger reads. What now Holyflare? And I did push BH until VA started claiming scum. I don't see what's hard to comprehend about him claiming an anti-town role? What, that its townie rather than absolutely fucking claiming scum? Duuuude.. No. Why is it claiming scum? Explain to me very simply.
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On April 04 2014 21:58 syllogism wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2014 20:29 marvellosity wrote:sandroba/syllogism - honestly Paperscraps' filter looks quite different from http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/422720-titanic-mini-mafia?user=Paperscrapswhich was his last town game, where he was lynched Day 1. He was more interactive, less sheepy, and had his own opinions On July 29 2013 03:18 Paperscraps wrote: ##Vote: justanothertownie
JAT is scum. He just sheeped onto the wagon that was on me with out much thought and gave himself an out when I flip town that I am "probably" scum.
Vivax actually posted some content and I don't think would be the best lynch today.
Stutters I would definitely keep my eye on.
hzflank is weird read for me now, I really don't know if he is pushing as town or scum. It was obvious that he wanted to push on Oats and he even admitted to it, which I liked.
I have been very transparent in my posting up to this point. Yes, I had a lot of town reads when I caught up, You act like it is hard to act "town" day 1. I couldn't care less what people perceive me as. If I was scum, I would just be all amicable, maybe start some BS case against some one who made some questionable posts and call it a day. I thought the people playing this game would be able to read past the simple charades of others, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Good vig shots tonight would be rayn and/or stutters. I think their flips would be more beneficial than the content or rather lack of content they post. On July 28 2013 11:12 Paperscraps wrote: @exarezee
If I was in your shoes and looking at my early posts, I would have realized that they were way too over the top to be serious. I voted you and said lets "murder" this guy, haha. Obviously I am trying to get reactions, since you are being so serious right off the bat.
I still don't understand how Tofu and I voting around the same time makes at least one of us confirmed scum. That is a stretch. More realistically, it was too people voting a rather serious player who was posting in a very "pro-town" and "controlled" manner to get him to show some real reads and responses. It is easy to act pro-town and push on people with very little to go off of early off in the game.
You haven't wavered much in your general tone and seem to be stubborn which is good. If you took at step back and got some objectivity, I think it would go along way to help you out. You have been focused on Tofu and I and haven't really paused to look at others, which is always a good thing to do. If you still think I am the best lynch after reading other people's filters, then by all means keep voting me. I don't think that is likely at all though. There's actual insight and thought here. This seems totally absent from this game. Regarding the first quote bolded - it seems Paper is confident enough in himself when he's town to not give a shit about how he's perceived when he's town, and self-describes his mafia play as unruffling of feathers. In this game he's just sheeping what's convenient, there's no thought or insight, and he's not ruffling any feathers. It does look very different. I may have been too generous in giving him credit for standing firm on his PR. His Tehpoofter read changing based on seemingly nothing is also suspicious. As for Austin, I don't really have anything to add as my issue is mostly with his post-hoc justification for singling out gumshoe. I looked at some of his town and mafia games and his play here so far doesn't resemble either. That's probably a good reason to give him more time, but can you point me to a game in which he "pointlessly bumbled through day 1 as town"? Without spending my time looking at a lot of austin filters, no. I've just played a lot of games with him and for quite a long time it became a tradition that I would be suspicious of him on D1 for not doing anything. I guess Rockband springs to mind? And although austin is a pretty experienced player, he still got lynched as town on Day 2 of PyP:LoL with only a 4 page filter.
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