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On April 12 2014 12:22 IAmRobik wrote: Okay. I know the feeling, it's about what made me ask koshi to shoot him over killing (the other option du nuit). He tends to look scummy for DOING stuff that can be scummy, and here he was doing jack and had that weird syllo vote.I mean. I had originally forgotten about LSB cause he prolly posted like 5 fucking times, but then I went over the player list and was like "holy fuck...HIMHIMHIMHIMHIMHIM." Maybe Joey felt the same way. I can't really speak on his behalf JUST RUSTLIN' MYSELF UP SOME ODDITIES. | ||
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On April 12 2014 12:53 IAmRobik wrote: This is the hubris of the young. The words of the generation of Ace of Base.Austin. I don't need ABBA. Remember? I'm an unkillable medic lol Those swedes are not the true swedes. The green glow is a false glow, and only the light of ABBA will bring the truth. | ||
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On April 12 2014 13:10 Oatsmaster wrote: AgnethaDoes ABBA stand for anything Austin? Benny Bjorn Anni-Frid | ||
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On April 13 2014 02:47 IAmRobik wrote: Oats if mafia and dicking around. We are partially getting caught up in it, and should probably quit interacting with him.I'm so lost at this point in the game. I have 0 clue what's going on I forgot about BH's counter changing, hopeless didn't see snb's post, we're missing stuff NOW and not reading over stuff in the past by just dicking around with oats. Oats has rejected the ABBA. Shun the nonbeliever. SHUUUUUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. | ||
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If scum has a "target player can't be lynched this cycle" mechanic on someone, why do they wait until now to use it? Could stick it on syllo or iamp earlier, possibly save a power of theirs and also keep a KP maybe, depending on numbers. Could stick it on Gumshoe D1, give no flip information, and PROBABLY have gumshoe be the lynch D2. Save it for a townie on a critical day coming up, no lynch, another set of NKs, and we PROBABLY lynch that dude the next day. Do you think, if you actually work through it, that a buddy/partner/forbidden lover/supplicant/trusted librarian of Oats's would use that power on Oats? ESPECIALLY if snb's bit is legit and he just has one-shot abilities. | ||
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On April 13 2014 03:58 Dandel Ion wrote: (Right but I'm still working on figuring out Geript. He's not the most likely scum out of the non-oats, I still dislike Killing more, and geript has some townie stuff going for him. But his response to Robik still reads funky to me, and talking about how someone else would have used that on oats yesterday continued to eat at me, and this is one reason why. He's just...making these statements and coming to conclusions that I don't <3, that I don't understand, but they lack that SCUMMY reasoning behind them. Like, who cares who used oats-is-lynchable juice, it doesn't matter if it's oats or something else, and geript doesn't seem to be trying to SAVE oats at all by saying someone else did something to him, so there's no reason for scum to type that odd conclusion in thread, but it bugs me and bugs me so poke poke)because oats has the pardon, oats' buddy has the janitor oats wants to sell as his own power. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:03 justanothertownie wrote: You hear the ABBA, but you clearly do not read with the blue eyes of the swedes.If scum used that on a townie oats... Why did oats say he could not be lynched? I'm not suggesting oats is townie or town. I'm trying to understand what geript is thinking when he posts these: On April 12 2014 10:47 geript wrote: I've played 1 GM game before but could people confirm or deny that GM usually only allows players to do one thing per phase. I really think Oats partner did the unlynchable ish thing. On April 12 2014 10:55 geript wrote: Austin. I don't really get your point. Like I feel it's pretty obvious IMO that Oats is mafia and his teammate saved him. I remember Wave was 3P with VE maybe in chrono 2 and the could res each other I think, but normally players can't take more than one action per phase and iirc GM tends to follow that rule. So Oats teammate had to have saved him. I don't get how you don't see what I'm saying and how you don't come to this conclusion too. | ||
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My only real question I guess is that you seem concerned with JAT throughout your filter, but not with Amiko much. I can understand "makes sense that there could be another survivor", but ... you didn't question his claim at all because of that? Or question just general play / claimed item abilities / comment about not being sure about committing himself to ABBA. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:26 Dandel Ion wrote: Okay you real.amiko claimed survivor (believable to me) with a role that doesn't do shit for a survivor (in line with mine and thus believable to me)* and has, as far as I know, not killed anybody yet. On the other hand we have a guy that killed keir and wants to kill 1-2 more townies *ignoring the bulletproof fakeclaim he did If I were a survivor and someone else claimed survivor with some item-y shits, I would immediate distrust them and think they were lying about wincon or faction, like 95%. Heck, I'd think they were lying even if I weren't a survivor. I don't understand "oh yeah, their role doesn't do shit for a survivor ---> therefore, they're a survivor," but I don't think you type that if you're not being honest here. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:29 strongandbig wrote: My b then, but I think the point behind my question is still there. Why does scum save oats over doing nearly anything else.my thing doesnt say that oats only has one-shot abilities. I just get to know the number of one-shot abilities that he has. He could have other abilities that are not one-shot. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:29 geript wrote: I don't know how many folks scum have. IF they had an even number, then losing 2 means losing 1 KP, but losin 1 means not losing KP (KP rounds up). So saving EITHER would mean a bonus KP that night IF mafia has even number of members.KP is scum/2 right? So saving IamP/ syllogism doesn't change anything I don't think. Like syllo's getting shot/lynched again 100%. IamP probly that way too. That doesn't save KP even for a night IMO. Now. I think it's likely just a preserve numbers thing. Why save oats to preserve numbers? Again, why not burn it on a townie or someone who likely has more stuff in the bag than oats. ALL uses of "x can't be lynched and you can use this right before lynch" cause chaos, screw up a lynch, and give you another night cycle. Pretty much ANY use of that power "preserves numbers", either by saving scum or by giving you NKs and probably putting the lynch the NEXT day on a target of you choosing. If that person is town, you essentially draw 2 mislynches out of town on the SAME townie. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:38 geript wrote: Because it's interesting to me and whatnot, and trying to understand your thought processes helps me figure out how your brain is working and what angle you're coming from.I don't think mafia is in a position to make that play. Like oats is super fucking scum. Maybe there are long 5 scum and 2 left. Like that's my point in calling this exercise worthless. I have specific thoughts and expectations of how the game is. But it isn't like we can realistically prove any of that. Like why in the fuck would a good player like you waste time on this? | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:40 geript wrote: My thoughts are known. If this is a scum ability that says "target bro can't be lynched", then I think (1) it can't be infinite and (2) they don't use it on oats. I continue to work in a world in which Oats has a one-shot ability to keep himself from getting lynched (again, multi-use is ... unlikely).Doubt it. Why not just say what you're thinking because like I don't see any reason for you to be poking here. I feel like you're just wasting my time because you have your own theory/knowledge/pinky swear/whatever. You thought about past games, about actions per cycle, and why you think someone else did this. But it doesn't seem like you thought "why would they do this with oats", and I'm trying to figure out if you didn't think that through, if you believe something different from me, or if it looks like you're just making crap up for unknown reasons. | ||
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On April 13 2014 04:48 Dandel Ion wrote: Green: (Which is again what I think and I'm trying to understand why Geript thinks that oats does NOT do the lynchproof bit, someone else does)Or Oats had the lynchproof so if he doesn't use it on himself it's wasted. Or it depends on chaos/radiation Or or or it's like you're wasting time on purpose. Blue: Possible, but chaos has been 1 and > 1, so this would be a radiation thing only. Possible. No color: It may be "like" that, but it ain't. | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:05 strongandbig wrote: VA a solid scum suspect.What are people's current thoughts about VA and paperscraps? I feel pretty much blank about both of them, which I don't like very much. Paperscraps slightly less so, just on looking over D1? He picked up votes from 3/4 of our scummers (working off oats being scum). He ends the day with 3/4 scum votes on him, which doesn't say much I guess but you'd think they might move off once things are pushed elsewhere if paper is a scumbuddy and gumshoe ain't. LSB's vote and posts on paper especially make him feel a little unlikely. Syllo and oats don't do much for me either way on paper, but LSB's looks unlike a scum bussing. | ||
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On April 13 2014 05:11 IAmRobik wrote: Not anything solid right now. Seems like some people interact with radiation in different ways, chaos feels more likely to me (as a means of balancing other stuff though --> scum can do something nasty but chaos goes down, town can do something good but chaos goes up). It's not anything firm to go on though.I just had a random thought: People who have the ability to decrease chaos/radiation might be more likely to be scum than town. Maybe whoever used the decrease of chaos/radiation or whatever the fuck decreased after oats wasn't lynched, maybe that has something to do with the counter decreasing. Like, mafia used a pro mafia ability and chaos decreased. Town uses abilities (as described in BH's role and poofter's role) and chaos/radiation goes up. Thoughts? (But it would totally implicate killing, and I mentioned this previously that I "oh yeah just erase chaos" feels like...a lie, and in a not-townie way, because town wouldn't get "decrease chaos AND DO x" because the former is already super sexy for town). I believe, however, that chaos is now 0 because we hit 3 or more, triggering the event thing. | ||
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