World Heavyweight Championship Mafia II - Page 15

On March 26 2014 16:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:

That's not true Holyflare.

On March 26 2014 16:07 Holyflare wrote:


and i do the same thing but you say i am town, you dismiss everything anyone says and don't even question your read on a player that you have seen play mafia 0 times

On March 26 2014 16:14 Holyflare wrote:
no he lied and you said NOTHING about it you dismissed talking to me entirely, you said it was shit logic and you aggrevated me "to get reads on players" so no rayn, fucking explain why it is NOT A LIE

On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town

Mafia Rayn would end this post with

On March 26 2014 13:47 IAmRobik wrote:
I've seen Rayn give up as mafia and I've seen Rayn tunnel as mafia. I've never seen a Rayn town game until this one. This read is so good that I'm close to me offering up my pinky toe as I did with Templar being town in Foundations.

On March 26 2014 16:21 Holyflare wrote:
In the first quote, he establishes that as mafia you would post a smiley after that first post. In NO game ever have you done that and believe me I checked almost every single game of your mafia games.

On March 26 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
He claims he knows my mafia play because he has seen it two times (and correctly called me out both of the times). Then he says he thinks i would put a smiley after my first post in case i was mafia and because i didn't to him it implicates i am town.

In the second quote he says this is his first game with me when i am town.

Where is the lie? He is not saying "rayn does this only as mafia and never does this as town". He is referring to this particular situation in this particular game. It's not a meta read as i already pointed out to you. Why is this so hard? He assumes my "tone" would be different if i was mafia.

On March 26 2014 14:43 IAmRobik wrote:

No they don't.

Let me expound: there are appropriate and inappropriate spots to use smiley faces. The two times Rayn was mafia, they were put in spots where they seemed forced to me. In my experience, it is more likely for mafia to post a smiley because they need to feign happiness. In the 2-3 mafia games that I've seen from Rayn, he's made a smiley emote that didn't sync with his post. It didn't jive well. I called him out on it. This game he didn't post a smiley. He didn't feel the need to. The one time that he did use it so far (that I've noticed), it was actually applicable. Like, you're going to read this and think it's shit and never believe it and never use it. That doesn't mean I'm not correct.

You can claim whatever you want holyflare. You're wrong on Rayn.

On March 26 2014 16:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Maybe you should check again because this is untrue.

Let me say in different words what rayn said: "I don't believe the smilie thing is a reliable tell, but we'll see about that when / if he does that in a couple more games and if he's right or wrong". That's how I understood it at least.

It's possible that you just misunderstood that second sentence, but rayn told you (at least once, perhaps even several times) that you are misreading it, and you just kept on pushing your points.

On March 26 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote:
well that is what you are saying unless you are implying it to be true in future games instead and in that case it is badly phrased

On March 26 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote:
and then you in fact have a town read on someone that called out your alignment based on a smiley face when he said he's only ever seen you play mafia once and never seen you play town so this read is actually 0% true because it has no backed up relevance for him to say

On February 13 2014 06:40 IAmRobik wrote:

I mean, I've never searched for a game thread to prove someone is maf/town, but when people have done it in the past, they've generally been town.

Also, I might want to rescind my original comment of round being my top town. I said it because I thought that I remembered smiley faces and stuff being towny, but now that I think of it, it could be the exact opposite read. I don't remember anymore.

On March 05 2014 03:14 IAmRobik wrote:

What am I answering? I'm pretty sure I laid out why I thought Boone was scummy. Also, there is like a 70% chance you're scum this game rayn. It's quite sad. I was really hoping we'd both be town.

On March 26 2014 16:30 Holyflare wrote:




Rayn did this in one game but isn't doing it here is the very definition of meta

On March 26 2014 16:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

The second quote is referring to this game and to another situation.