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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
"why is thrawn voting for me without stating intentions or what is going on or questioning" "why is rayn calling robik town and dismissing everything about him without stating intentions or what is going on or questioning" why are you not mafia and thrawn is instead? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:07 Holyflare wrote: and i do the same thing but you say i am town, you dismiss everything anyone says and don't even question your read on a player that you have seen play mafia 0 times Again i am not saying you are town. What's up with this misrepresentation? Have i said somewhere i think you are town? "I think Holyflare could do this as town" != "I think Holyflare is town". I don't know if you can understand why i am townreading Robik or not but this is useless because i don't care if you think i can have a townread on him or not. I am confident on my read so unless you can prove he is mafia there is nothing to talk about it because i do not have to prove he is town. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:14 Holyflare wrote: no he lied and you said NOTHING about it you dismissed talking to me entirely, you said it was shit logic and you aggrevated me "to get reads on players" so no rayn, fucking explain why it is NOT A LIE Robik has not lied about anything. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town Mafia Rayn would end this post with On March 26 2014 13:47 IAmRobik wrote: I've seen Rayn give up as mafia and I've seen Rayn tunnel as mafia. I've never seen a Rayn town game until this one. This read is so good that I'm close to me offering up my pinky toe as I did with Templar being town in Foundations. In the first quote, he establishes that as mafia you would post a smiley after that first post. In NO game ever have you done that and believe me I checked almost every single game of your mafia games. Furthermore, he has never seen you play town so he does not know if you do that as town so how can he make the statement that you are town based on no evidence that has ever happened? Secondly, he says none of your other posts have said you are mafia this game but then when questioned further about that he says nothing about your posts and just expands on the smiley thing again. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
In the second quote he says this is his first game with me when i am town. Where is the lie? He is not saying "rayn does this only as mafia and never does this as town". He is referring to this particular situation in this particular game. It's not a meta read as i already pointed out to you. Why is this so hard? He assumes my "tone" would be different if i was mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:21 Holyflare wrote: In the first quote, he establishes that as mafia you would post a smiley after that first post. In NO game ever have you done that and believe me I checked almost every single game of your mafia games. Maybe you should check again because this is untrue. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: He claims he knows my mafia play because he has seen it two times (and correctly called me out both of the times). Then he says he thinks i would put a smiley after my first post in case i was mafia and because i didn't to him it implicates i am town. In the second quote he says this is his first game with me when i am town. Where is the lie? He is not saying "rayn does this only as mafia and never does this as town". He is referring to this particular situation in this particular game. It's not a meta read as i already pointed out to you. Why is this so hard? He assumes my "tone" would be different if i was mafia. On March 26 2014 14:43 IAmRobik wrote: No they don't. Let me expound: there are appropriate and inappropriate spots to use smiley faces. The two times Rayn was mafia, they were put in spots where they seemed forced to me. In my experience, it is more likely for mafia to post a smiley because they need to feign happiness. In the 2-3 mafia games that I've seen from Rayn, he's made a smiley emote that didn't sync with his post. It didn't jive well. I called him out on it. This game he didn't post a smiley. He didn't feel the need to. The one time that he did use it so far (that I've noticed), it was actually applicable. Like, you're going to read this and think it's shit and never believe it and never use it. That doesn't mean I'm not correct. You can claim whatever you want holyflare. You're wrong on Rayn. Rayn did this in one game but isn't doing it here is the very definition of meta | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe you should check again because this is untrue. link me the abundance of times that this has happened and prove me wrong in your first few posts of mafia games | ||
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phagga
Switzerland2194 Posts
On March 26 2014 15:52 Holyflare wrote: what do you make of this set of events that just happened? i like that you jumped back to robik's post about not seeing any rayn town games so what do you think of rayn saying me pointing it out is shit logic? and why does he not want to talk to me if he thinks i'm capable of doing this "shit logic" as town? Haven't read everything past this post: You have twisted rayns words around. Rayn never says he reads robik town because of his smilies, as was explained before. Also: On March 26 2014 14:21 Holyflare wrote: well then you are mafia because this is a crock of shit You think he is town but he is displaying odd traits BUT THEN YOU POINT IT OUT THAT HE IS DOING IT INSTEAD OF WAITING. Rayn, you are mafia bro. Let me say in different words what rayn said: "I don't believe the smilie thing is a reliable tell, but we'll see about that when / if he does that in a couple more games and if he's right or wrong". That's how I understood it at least. It's possible that you just misunderstood that second sentence, but rayn told you (at least once, perhaps even several times) that you are misreading it, and you just kept on pushing your points. So, I don't like your position currently. Will read the rest of the thread now. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
if this was his initial read it would stated first about the smiley thing in all of your posts, not just your first post | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Let me say in different words what rayn said: "I don't believe the smilie thing is a reliable tell, but we'll see about that when / if he does that in a couple more games and if he's right or wrong". That's how I understood it at least. It's possible that you just misunderstood that second sentence, but rayn told you (at least once, perhaps even several times) that you are misreading it, and you just kept on pushing your points. this is not true On March 26 2014 14:28 Holyflare wrote: well that is what you are saying unless you are implying it to be true in future games instead and in that case it is badly phrased On March 26 2014 14:29 Holyflare wrote: and then you in fact have a town read on someone that called out your alignment based on a smiley face when he said he's only ever seen you play mafia once and never seen you play town so this read is actually 0% true because it has no backed up relevance for him to say | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On February 13 2014 06:40 IAmRobik wrote: I mean, I've never searched for a game thread to prove someone is maf/town, but when people have done it in the past, they've generally been town. Also, I might want to rescind my original comment of round being my top town. I said it because I thought that I remembered smiley faces and stuff being towny, but now that I think of it, it could be the exact opposite read. I don't remember anymore. From Foundation: On March 05 2014 03:14 IAmRobik wrote: What am I answering? I'm pretty sure I laid out why I thought Boone was scummy. Also, there is like a 70% chance you're scum this game rayn. It's quite sad. I was really hoping we'd both be town. In both instances Robik calls me mafia because of a post i "incorrectly" used a smiley. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:30 Holyflare wrote: Rayn did this in one game but isn't doing it here is the very definition of meta The second quote is referring to this game and to another situation. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
in this instance it's rayn top 100% town based on 1 post that didn't contain an out of place smiley | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On March 26 2014 16:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: The second quote is referring to this game and to another situation. no the second game refers only to this game, he has NEVER seen you play town so had no idea about smileys and especially not from the first fucking post you made in the game | ||
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