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thrawn2112
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6918 Posts
March 26 2014 08:07 GMT
#321
On March 26 2014 16:47 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you

Why are you voting rayn? I don't see an explanation in your filter.


then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense.

the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...

"2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong."

-i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt

- "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense.

-this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment.

when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this"

so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum

but he says all those statements are real? lol
"People think they know all these things about other people, and if you ask them why they think they know that, it'd be hard for them to be convincing." ES
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
March 26 2014 08:08 GMT
#322
On March 26 2014 17:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 16:54 phagga wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
because his initial read was your FIRST POST didn't contain a smiley, none of the games you have played as mafia ever contain a smiley in your first post so then he says it's your other posts that didn't convince him that you weren't town so then it's your other posts and not only your first post and THEN he says you haven't posted an out of place smiley in any of your posts

if this was his initial read it would stated first about the smiley thing in all of your posts, not just your first post


Again, you are either not reading correctly or twisting around words: Robik said "in the firsts posts, not the first post.

On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town

[red]Mafia Rayn would end this post with [red]
On March 26 2014 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town wins this belt.




and no, you are misreading. He says he would post a smiley emoticon after his FIRST POST and this is fucking redundant because my vote is on rayn for the reasons i have stated so many many many times


That's only half his post, are you not reading the rest or what?

You're the one still pushing the point with the first post and the smiley, so why is it suddenly redundant?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:11 GMT
#323
On March 26 2014 17:06 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I have laready told why i think thrawn is mafia. How about you read my posts instead of arguing about nonsense Holyflare?


"thrawn doesn't jump to conclusions as town" is not an explanation and not a case on why i should sheep your excellent read and "thrawn is smarter than that" is also not a reason where thrawn linked shit that proves you think otherwise

so like i said, prove to me he is mafia

That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play.


and not it is not, i remembered correctly:

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story.

thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here.



Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 15:28 thrawn2112 wrote:
phagga:

I thought rayn was lying about point #2 because of how stupid it was. So I thought he was scum reading robik but I wanted to make sure I was interpreting the post correctly

apparently #2 is truth so rayn's mafia

So here you literally prove you have no idea why i am townreading Robik and have no intention of figuring that out. In my "game" post i never explain why i townread Robik, it's pretty clear from that post. You are too smart to make dumb conclusions based on incomplete information and that's why i think you are mafia.


WHY DO YOU LEAVE OUT THE INCOMPLETE INFORMATION PART? WHY HOLYFLARE?
ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID? OR MAFIA?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:13 GMT
#324
On March 26 2014 17:07 thrawn2112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 16:47 phagga wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote:
lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you

Why are you voting rayn? I don't see an explanation in your filter.


then read it again. he's making stuff up and not making any sense.

the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...

"2) My "town wins this belt" post was indeed a town claim. I was happy rolling town and i don't give a fuck who else is town because i just find two mafia and then town wins the belt. I am also amused that Robik has called my alignment correctly out three times based on my usage / usagelessness. I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative but i am really interested in seeing is so some sort of psychic or what because i have a townread on him in this game. I don't believe Robik yet, i mean, i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong."

-i doubt rayn doesn't care about winning the belt

- "I don't know how he does it and i don't think it's alignment indicative" what the fuck does this even mean? if robik is scum then of course he is not "some sort of psychic" who is excellent at reading rayn. if robik is scum the robik KNOWS RAYN IS TOWN and doesn't need to try and figure out if rayn is town. like... i can't properly explain the problem I have with this quote because I don't even know what the quote is meant to say. it's just nonsense.

-this line: "i don't believe that's a reliable tell but we'll see about that when / if he does that a couple of times more and if he is right or wrong." WTF DOES THIS MEAN? it's the same as the earlier quote. rayn is just talking nonsense here which is the easiest way to figure out his alignment.

when I read rayn's game my first thought was "ok, rayn is being sarcastic for most if not all of this"

so I ask him to clarify if he was actually reading robik as scum

but he says all those statements are real? lol

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:15 GMT
#325
Someone explain why thrawn's post is full of shit. You get +100 townie points.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:15 GMT
#326
On March 26 2014 17:08 phagga wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:01 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:54 phagga wrote:
On March 26 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote:
because his initial read was your FIRST POST didn't contain a smiley, none of the games you have played as mafia ever contain a smiley in your first post so then he says it's your other posts that didn't convince him that you weren't town so then it's your other posts and not only your first post and THEN he says you haven't posted an out of place smiley in any of your posts

if this was his initial read it would stated first about the smiley thing in all of your posts, not just your first post


Again, you are either not reading correctly or twisting around words: Robik said "in the firsts posts, not the first post.

On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote:
Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town

[red]Mafia Rayn would end this post with
On March 26 2014 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town wins this belt.




and no, you are misreading. He says he would post a smiley emoticon after his FIRST POST and this is fucking redundant because my vote is on rayn for the reasons i have stated so many many many times


That's only half his post, are you not reading the rest or what?

You're the one still pushing the point with the first post and the smiley, so why is it suddenly redundant?


because my vote is not on him it is on rayn for doing everything that he just did, also the fact that when i questioned robik his first response was:

On March 26 2014 13:13 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 13:06 Holyflare wrote:
Ok, Palmar is 100% mafia for this small comment that nobody picked up on.

On March 26 2014 08:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Town wins this belt.



On March 26 2014 08:13 Palmar wrote:
On March 26 2014 08:11 thrawn2112 wrote:
witchcraft 2

My idea kinda died anyway.

I just remembered that [red]rayn also did a townclaim at the beginning of titanic, and that he didn't really in foundation, but reading back I found that he opened with that unvoting plan in default suspicion, so whatever.




In no way shape or form does rayn "town claim" like Palmar says flat out. It's a statement that is alignment null. He could be town, he could be mafia. Who knows? Palmar knows, that's who.


##Vote Palmar

I mean...I agree that palmar is scum, but I disagree with your whole post. I took Rayn's post as a town claim, and I read him town from it (cause I'm the sick-nastiest at tone reads....and I read Rayn like a boss).


This implies that his read on rayn was based on his first post and I established that the smiley stuff that he brought up later was to do with his FIRST POST and not his later posts which he only mentioned after i questioned him. Like I said, it's a lie because rayns first post never contains a smiley face. I've said this all before.

Phagga, what do you think of rayns logic on thrawn? You haven't commented on any of it, only about me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:17 GMT
#327
On March 26 2014 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone explain why thrawn's post is full of shit. You get +100 townie points.


are you going to say about him voting you before that post because it isn't true
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:18 GMT
#328
On March 26 2014 17:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone explain why thrawn's post is full of shit. You get +100 townie points.


are you going to say about him voting you before that post because it isn't true

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? what....the....fuck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:20 GMT
#329
I think we need to policy lynch Holyflare for the sake of this game's sanity.
But only on D2, D1 we lynch mafia.
I am not sure if Holyflare is mafia (inb4 he claims "rayn knows i am town").
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:20 GMT
#330
On March 26 2014 17:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:17 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 17:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Someone explain why thrawn's post is full of shit. You get +100 townie points.


are you going to say about him voting you before that post because it isn't true

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? what....the....fuck?!?!?!?!?!?!?!


i think you mentioned that somewhere
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:21 GMT
#331
On March 26 2014 17:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think we need to policy lynch Holyflare for the sake of this game's sanity.
But only on D2, D1 we lynch mafia.
I am not sure if Holyflare is mafia (inb4 he claims "rayn knows i am town").


yes "I trolled you to get reactions" was really something that doesn't make me angry at all
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:22 GMT
#332
On March 26 2014 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 16:01 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly

so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.

and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.

so what is going on?



this is a legit good post for thrawn to make and he backed it up with research as well

No it's not because before this thrawn has voted for me.
Later on whehe he explains why he voted for me he does not say "at first it was pressure (or whatever) and seemed a bit scummy and then rayn did not explain himself despite me asking him to do so". He has really no intention of figuring out what i mean, i even say multiple times "you don't even know why i have a townread on Robik" yet he still assumes he knows why and does not ask me why nor does he re-think his vote.


this post you say it's because he voted you before all of this and he just stated why he voted you for all of this so I was saying if you meant it like this, you were wrong, so please enlighten us instead
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:25 GMT
#333
unless you're talking about how he voted you before reading the actual content because then yeh, that's pretty mafiaish
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:25 GMT
#334
marv please come here and stop Holyflare.
or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this.

like, how can someone twist everything so badly.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:26 GMT
#335
On March 26 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv please come here and stop Holyflare.
or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this.

like, how can someone twist everything so badly.


because you put me in a fowl mood by being a dick to me instead of actually attempting to talk things through with me so of course it's made my judgement clouded because you are a twat
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:30 GMT
#336
On March 26 2014 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv please come here and stop Holyflare.
or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this.

like, how can someone twist everything so badly.


because you put me in a fowl mood by being a dick to me instead of actually attempting to talk things through with me so of course it's made my judgement clouded because you are a twat

Okay take a break for a while or read the thread again, it's not so big.
You are repeatedly jumping to conclusions that are false just because you assume you know better than the person who made those posts in the first place. Everything i have said i have explained and it makes perfect sense (besides the last thrawn post but i want opinions first before i state my conclusions on that). If you are town don't jump on the first conclusion you can remotely think of, think a bit more please. You are better than this.
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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:31 GMT
#337
thrawn you mafia bro:

the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...


Rayns post is at 14:12
On March 26 2014 14:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:


On March 26 2014 14:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
##vote: rayn


thrawn's vote is at 14:22 after already questioning about the content at 14:19

On March 26 2014 14:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn are you scumreading robik? just say it if you are


so his vote came after all of that
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 26 2014 08:34 GMT
#338
On March 26 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv please come here and stop Holyflare.
or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this.

like, how can someone twist everything so badly.


because you put me in a fowl mood by being a dick to me instead of actually attempting to talk things through with me so of course it's made my judgement clouded because you are a twat

Okay take a break for a while or read the thread again, it's not so big.
You are repeatedly jumping to conclusions that are false just because you assume you know better than the person who made those posts in the first place. Everything i have said i have explained and it makes perfect sense (besides the last thrawn post but i want opinions first before i state my conclusions on that). If you are town don't jump on the first conclusion you can remotely think of, think a bit more please. You are better than this.


you know what stops that? not calling things "shit logic" or "bad" and instead talking about WHY it is bad or bad logic, tell us why thrawn is mafia for that post
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:36 GMT
#339
On March 26 2014 17:34 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 26 2014 17:26 Holyflare wrote:
On March 26 2014 17:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv please come here and stop Holyflare.
or phagga. or anyone with brain. lol, i have no idea what to think of this.

like, how can someone twist everything so badly.


because you put me in a fowl mood by being a dick to me instead of actually attempting to talk things through with me so of course it's made my judgement clouded because you are a twat

Okay take a break for a while or read the thread again, it's not so big.
You are repeatedly jumping to conclusions that are false just because you assume you know better than the person who made those posts in the first place. Everything i have said i have explained and it makes perfect sense (besides the last thrawn post but i want opinions first before i state my conclusions on that). If you are town don't jump on the first conclusion you can remotely think of, think a bit more please. You are better than this.


you know what stops that? not calling things "shit logic" or "bad" and instead talking about WHY it is bad or bad logic, tell us why thrawn is mafia for that post

I am sorry i genuinely wanted other people's opinions on me before being clear. I could have told you where you go wrong in the first place but that would have probably ended up in thrawn getting away with his shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 26 2014 08:39 GMT
#340
On March 26 2014 17:31 Holyflare wrote:
thrawn you mafia bro:

Show nested quote +
the initial reason I voted for him which I haven';t explained until now, is the tone of his "game" post. it looks very fake and not liek something I expect rayn to write regardless of whatever I think about the content of the post. as to the content...


Rayns post is at 14:12
Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:


Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:22 thrawn2112 wrote:
##unvote
##vote: rayn


thrawn's vote is at 14:22 after already questioning about the content at 14:19

Show nested quote +
On March 26 2014 14:19 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn are you scumreading robik? just say it if you are


so his vote came after all of that

I don't get this. Can you elaborate more?
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