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Holyflare
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raynpelikoneet
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phagga
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On March 26 2014 16:08 thrawn2112 wrote: lol rayn it's so funny watching you pretend like you know why i'm voting for you Why are you voting rayn? I don't see an explanation in your filter. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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"In last two games i have played with rayn he put a smiley on a place it did not belong in one of his first posts. Both times i called him out of it and i think that is indicative of him being mafia if he does so because he was mafia in those two games and that felt so off to me. In those games - at first - i was not 100% sure if he is mafia because of it but i now trust i can read him based on that (because i was right twice already). In this game, if rayn was mafia, i think he would have put a smiley after his first post of the game. He didn't, so i think it's indicative of him being town. He hasn't put a smiley in places they "do not belong" after that, and nothing in his posts seems scummy, so that strengthens my read. In fact, the post he used a smiley in this game i think the smiley belonged there and it was not forced (which is the scumtell i recognize from earlier games with him)." Now why is this simple logic so fucking hard to understand? | ||
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phagga
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On March 26 2014 16:34 Holyflare wrote: this is not true (1) So basically you have the same interpretation of that sentence now as I do? (2) But he has meanwhile explained his read, why is that not good? | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: For the last time, this is what Robik is saying: "In last two games i have played with rayn he put a smiley on a place it did not belong in one of his first posts. Both times i called him out of it and i think that is indicative of him being mafia if he does so because he was mafia in those two games and that felt so off to me. In those games - at first - i was not 100% sure if he is mafia because of it but i now trust i can read him based on that (because i was right twice already). In this game, if rayn was mafia, i think he would have put a smiley after his first post of the game. He didn't, so i think it's indicative of him being town. He hasn't put a smiley in places they "do not belong" after that, and nothing in his posts seems scummy, so that strengthens my read. In fact, the post he used a smiley in this game i think the smiley belonged there and it was not forced (which is the scumtell i recognize from earlier games with him)." Now why is this simple logic so fucking hard to understand? because he doesn't say it like that so fucking drop it and tell me why thrawn is mafia | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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phagga
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On March 26 2014 16:32 Holyflare wrote: because his initial read was your FIRST POST didn't contain a smiley, none of the games you have played as mafia ever contain a smiley in your first post so then he says it's your other posts that didn't convince him that you weren't town so then it's your other posts and not only your first post and THEN he says you haven't posted an out of place smiley in any of your posts if this was his initial read it would stated first about the smiley thing in all of your posts, not just your first post Again, you are either not reading correctly or twisting around words: Robik said "in the firsts posts, not the first post. On March 26 2014 13:33 IAmRobik wrote: Cause I do read him town off of that 1 post mostly. Having said that, none of his posts this game have made me change my opinion of him. Also, he hasn't posted a smiley emoticon in the first few posts of his, which indicates further than he's town Mafia Rayn would end this post with  | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:51 phagga wrote: (1) So basically you have the same interpretation of that sentence now as I do? (2) But he has meanwhile explained his read, why is that not good? you returned to the thread and the first thing you point out is how robik has not read a single town game of rayns i question him on this, point out it's weird, question why rayn didn't pick up on it and then rayn makes a giant wall of text that says nothing other than he has a town read on robik who at this point looks like he is full of crap, he then further perpetuates that my case is "bad" has "shit logic" and then flat out tells me he will not talk to me anymore at all. Later and ONLY later he then reveals his read on robik was based on past games where he gets town reads and not reads based on logic after all of those posts I had made that asked him to explain, asked why he didn't question. The first post I made he could have instantly pointed this out but he did not, he waited and argued and continued to make me try and point it out. | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have laready told why i think thrawn is mafia. How about you read my posts instead of arguing about nonsense Holyflare? "thrawn doesn't jump to conclusions as town" is not an explanation and not a case on why i should sheep your excellent read and "thrawn is smarter than that" is also not a reason where thrawn linked shit that proves you think otherwise so like i said, prove to me he is mafia | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 26 2014 16:56 Holyflare wrote: "thrawn doesn't jump to conclusions as town" is not an explanation and not a case on why i should sheep your excellent read and "thrawn is smarter than that" is also not a reason where thrawn linked shit that proves you think otherwise so like i said, prove to me he is mafia That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play. | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play. i do not give a shit if it is a misrepresentation or not, that is what i remember without checking, i am asking you now to prove to me he is mafia so do it regardless of what you have said before because now i am listening | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:54 phagga wrote: Again, you are either not reading correctly or twisting around words: Robik said "in the firsts posts, not the first post. and no, you are misreading. He says he would post a smiley emoticon after his FIRST POST and this is fucking redundant because my vote is on rayn for the reasons i have stated so many many many times | ||
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 26 2014 15:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also this post is really really scummy because here thrawn claims he has no time for games and he wants to talk about reads. What's contradictory to this he never really explains why he has a scumread on me, he does not explain why he is voting for me. He does not ask me why i am townreading Robik. He does (or rather doesn't do) all this and then he whines about "people not being transparent and clear with their thoughts". Obvious contradiction. On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story. thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here. Meta + thrawn making unreasonable assumptions. Both of these things are something thrawn does not do as town, because he is not crazy town like you for example can be. | ||
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phagga
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On March 26 2014 16:55 Holyflare wrote: you returned to the thread and the first thing you point out is how robik has not read a single town game of rayns i question him on this, point out it's weird, question why rayn didn't pick up on it and then rayn makes a giant wall of text that says nothing other than he has a town read on robik who at this point looks like he is full of crap, he then further perpetuates that my case is "bad" has "shit logic" and then flat out tells me he will not talk to me anymore at all. Later and ONLY later he then reveals his read on robik was based on past games where he gets town reads and not reads based on logic after all of those posts I had made that asked him to explain, asked why he didn't question. The first post I made he could have instantly pointed this out but he did not, he waited and argued and continued to make me try and point it out. hmm ok, I thought I read that he told you that you where misreading his posts early on, but the only thing I find is this: On March 26 2014 14:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: That's not what he said. You are interpreting the post in a way it's not meant. That's absolutely not what Robik says. 2 is incorrect too. I agree that rayn is needlessly antagonizing you. But I can follow his explanation regarding his read on robik and find it sound. | ||
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Holyflare
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On March 26 2014 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: That is a complete misrepresentation of what i have said about thrawn's play. and not it is not, i remembered correctly: On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story. thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here. On March 26 2014 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: So here you literally prove you have no idea why i am townreading Robik and have no intention of figuring that out. In my "game" post i never explain why i townread Robik, it's pretty clear from that post. You are too smart to make dumb conclusions based on incomplete information and that's why i think you are mafia. | ||
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