World Heavyweight Championship Mafia II - Page 14

On March 26 2014 15:36 phagga wrote:

Can you explain us why you townread robik?

On March 26 2014 15:47 Holyflare wrote:
I think you're misconstruing the timeline of events here

he says he can read you town based off of one alignment null post ----> i ask him why ----> he says just because and then elaborates some bs about smileys that isn't true in any of your games and doesn't apply to your first post at all ---> then says it must be true based off of one games reading when you were mafia but in a bad game ----> then says he hasn't read any of your town games so doesn't actually know whether what he says is true or not

On March 26 2014 15:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
To clarify. I think Holyflare is "capable" of using shitlogic like this because i have seen him doing that as town before. For example Holyflare defended vivax in the last game based on something he didn't know fuck about, he only knew half of the story.

thrawn however does not do this as town. He is mostly laid back, doesn't jump onto conclusions with incomplete informatio. Remember, that has nothing to do with maked bad calls (like in LXIV: restart) based on complete picture. I am talking about filling the puzzle with something he makes up himself. In fact the only time i have seen him do this is as mafia in Extractor trick which made me instantly catch him. And i think we have just seen the same thing here.

On March 26 2014 15:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What does this have to do with anything i have said?
I have never elaborated on if i think that's a legit way to form a read or not. I have said it's not scummy because i know that's how Robik reads people when he is town. He thinks it's a good way to form reads and so far he has been about 90% correct in his reads formed that way.

On March 26 2014 15:56 Holyflare wrote:


so WHY NOT SAY THIS 4 PAGES BACK INSTEAD OF SAYING IT'S SHIT LOGIC how the fuck do i know how robik plays and when he points out that he hasn't read any of your town games i just take that lying down? no i push that

you could have said anything to stop me doing this but you perpetuated that it was a bad case, shit logic, don't want to talk to me etc etc

why?

On March 26 2014 15:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Robik has played three games on TL. Almost all the people he has played with here he has never played forum mafia with before. He forms reads like this all the time, in every single game, on almost every single person. It has nothing to do with meta, it has to do with tone, and that's why your logic is bad.

There is a difference between meta and tone.

On March 26 2014 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i wanted to see other people's opinions on this and i caught mafia!thrawn.

On March 26 2014 15:57 Holyflare wrote:


i have played 0 games with robik so i have no idea what he does or doesn't do, why are you implying i should know this and therefore my logic is bad instead of telling me the reason beforehand?

On March 26 2014 14:50 thrawn2112 wrote:
rayn I know that you have a lower opinion of my ability to read people than you do of HF's opinion. plus, calling holyflare "retarded like he was in las game" does not even make sense because last game holyflare caught mafia instantly

so you're givnig holyflare a town read based on a statement about his play last game which isn't accurate, and a "i think thrawn is smarter than HF so thrawn must be scum" argument when I know you repect HF's reads more than you do mine.

and like hf is saying, nothing you have said about robik has made any sense.

so what is going on?

On March 26 2014 15:58 Holyflare wrote:


no this is you being full of shit

On March 26 2014 16:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Because i thought you would see the difference between meta and tone.
I think it's quite clear from Robik's posts. Also if YOU had checked his meta (previous games) you would see this is what he ALWAYS does, and therefore it's a town tell or at worst a null tell (as he has never played as mafia on TL).

On March 26 2014 15:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like Holyflare. I really implied this many times, in almost all in my posts.
There is no way thrawn thinks i am mafia. If he was town he would have questioned me about my posts and intentions.

On March 26 2014 16:01 Holyflare wrote:



this is a legit good post for thrawn to make and he backed it up with research as well

On March 26 2014 16:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No it's not because before this thrawn has voted for me.
Later on whehe he explains why he voted for me he does not say "at first it was pressure (or whatever) and seemed a bit scummy and then rayn did not explain himself despite me asking him to do so". He has really no intention of figuring out what i mean, i even say multiple times "you don't even know why i have a townread on Robik" yet he still assumes he knows why and does not ask me why nor does he re-think his vote.

On March 26 2014 16:05 Holyflare wrote:


this 1000x applies to you