III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition

On March 07 2014 13:29 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:

Ain't a titanic game without you

On March 08 2014 02:33 Balla24 wrote:
I think it's BlazingKite

On March 12 2014 22:33 marvellosity wrote:
lol I knew the forgotten medic had to be Oats

On March 13 2014 00:35 Koshi wrote:
rayn, did you claim cop D2 to push the lynch on Cora? I forgot why you claimed.

On March 15 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:


GG I'm the biggest threat!

On March 15 2014 03:00 Blazinghand wrote:


that one doesn't count cause reasons

On March 15 2014 03:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Rayn, I like the plan all the way up to D8. I don't really like the D8 part though, you should scrap that.

On March 15 2014 03:02 Blazinghand wrote:


Look ok I know it sounds silly when you put it like that but Hogwarts REALLY shouldn't count as a loss imo since I replaced in and all the scumteam died N1 because they were poop tier and I did a great job of not getting lynched so it's a moral victory

On March 15 2014 03:07 Blazinghand wrote:


Yeah except this time it was actually their fault. I'm not blaming them, it's just their fault and not mine, objectively.

On March 15 2014 03:11 Blazinghand wrote:
I'm actually pretty amazed that anyone is even close to me in post count. What the heck d you guys do, write LRs ABOUT LR threads? ._.

On March 15 2014 03:12 Blazinghand wrote:


Yeah but I replaced in and found 2 of my broskis were shot n1, clearly they dun goofed

On March 16 2014 08:15 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
First day lynch
First night kill

On March 18 2014 22:09 Oatsmaster wrote:

I kinda want to play but I will have a lot less time and Im not sure how it will go, whether Ill be a liability and all that.

On March 18 2014 22:26 WaveofShadow wrote:

Horseshit, 'cause I DID have that game figured out way early on.

On March 18 2014 22:30 WaveofShadow wrote:

Of course I did, but we had people like Hopeless and thrawn who YOLOvoted you and Umasi in every night even though I was megatown, and I was killed N2 or something like that and nobody listened when I had scumreads on you and Umasi for much of the game.
Not saying it wasn't my fault for not getting town to listen to me, but that was one of very few games that I can think of where my reads were actually good.

On November 09 2013 05:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
[...]
It is of my opinion that one of Syl or Umasi are scum, second being Ceph/Sn0 (with bias towards Sn0, though the 'one of' may make more sense if the votes on Ceph were a bus against him for Ceph being afk).

[...]

On March 19 2014 07:07 Palmar wrote:

I like this post.

On March 19 2014 07:09 Palmar wrote:

Solid logic.

On March 19 2014 07:11 Palmar wrote:

No, do you think that matters? You haven't done anything alignment indicative. He pointed out a curiosity. Why do you not like this post?

On March 19 2014 07:34 Coagulation wrote:
its being implied its scummy cause u coulda went and got organized in a scum QT rayn.
but its actually null cause you coulda just went and took an hour long shit for all anyone here fucking knows.

On March 19 2014 07:37 DarthPunk wrote:


Yeah I think so too. Rayn what do you think of the Holyflare push on myself and hopeless?

On March 19 2014 07:41 DarthPunk wrote:


Why don't you think it is a good post? He is right, you being away for an hour is not alignment indicative.

On March 19 2014 07:47 Coagulation wrote:
how about you clarify on why my "post was bad" instead of dumping useless trash in thread.

On March 19 2014 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Palmar can you explain to me why is it odd/weird/what do you call it that i posted at the start of the game and then didn't post for an hour?

On March 19 2014 07:34 Coagulation wrote:
(1): its being implied its scummy cause u coulda went and got organized in a scum QT rayn.
(2): but its actually null cause you coulda just went and took an hour long shit for all anyone here fucking knows.

On March 19 2014 07:55 Palmar wrote:


An observation doesn't have to be weird. I could make the observation that VE has basically just left the thread, but I don't think it's particularly alignment indicative, he has been quite shit on early days as town in recent games so it doesn't make him scum.

On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote:
rayn ur bad and should feel bad

On March 19 2014 08:06 DarthPunk wrote:
Rayn you say that he provides no insight of his own. Would you not say that calling it null is not an insight? Like it is a irrelevant conclusion but it is still a conclusion.

On March 19 2014 08:07 Palmar wrote:


The point is that Coag is basically answering a question for me without considering my position or my possible alignment.

On February 20 2014 22:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's this post and the conversation that took place after that:







Does it look like kush really cares about his question? Because the bolded part is an answer to his question.

On March 19 2014 08:15 Koshi wrote:
@rayn, pretty sure it isn't Coag and therefore it is very likely Kush but can't use meta if we don't know who it is.

On March 19 2014 08:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Do you think your post was good and moved the thread forward.
What was your plan on finding mafia with that post?

On March 19 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:


This question is also relevant to 3/4 of the thread you know. I read that coag post completely differently though. What is interesting to see is how it was pointed out that dp being overdefensive was scummy (by coag) but then they completely went over the overdefensive line in response to you.

On March 19 2014 08:36 Coagulation wrote:


of course at the time I thought it was a good post. It was an attempt to stop a seemingly bad bandwagon based on pure bullshit.

and then you jump up my ass for no reason and now Im wondering why the fuck im bothering trying to defend you from bullshit logic when your content to just spew bullshit logic all over me.

I dont give a shit what you do with your vote.

On March 19 2014 08:41 Coagulation wrote:


the one that would start with a slow chant of "RAYN WAS INACTIVE AT START" and turn to a maddening rumble of "RAYN WAS SCUMMY AT START"

On March 19 2014 08:44 Coagulation wrote:
OH IS THAT WHY YOU ASKED




Bullshit.

On March 19 2014 08:47 Koshi wrote:
If I wasn't going to bed I would ask you to search another topic to discuss rayn. But since I am going to bed and I will enjoy to read many mafia when I arrive at work I will not limit your artistic spirit.

On March 19 2014 08:53 Coagulation wrote:
SO Rayn you get to pick an answer

A) Was it already clarified at that point and you made a useless fluff POST that your gonna pretend you didnt make now.

OR

B) You just told a lie about it being clarified at that point when its pretty fucking clear that wasnt your mindset at the time and now your backtracking.

PIck one.

On March 19 2014 09:13 Koshi wrote:
And I want to point out to rayn that more people will find share this opinion. For some reason DP and Palmar don't. Maybe that reason is that you actually found something better to why Coag is scummy but you are repulsing others to read your stuff.

#truestory

On March 19 2014 09:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did you actually post your townie seal or not Coag?

On March 12 2014 08:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
btw i am going to say this right now.
from this game on i will policy lynch anyone who posts a townie seal.
i refuse to vote for anyone else than a seal poster and i refuse to post anything until they/me die.

rayn looks worse for it, because rayn can be useful when he's bouncing all the walls and accusing everyone of being mafia.

- waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town

rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read.

On March 19 2014 13:11 DarthPunk wrote:
Like I can guarantee you. And thrawn can attest to this. HOPELESS WILL GO AFK if he is mafia. no ifs or butts about it. If he is mafia he will lurk. So let's see if he starts lurking right?

On March 19 2014 13:15 Holyflare wrote:
Or we can play the game and find out if he's scum instead of waiting.............

Rayn your post screams of vengeful mafia reads.. It's scaring me bro, you go against yourself several times in the same paragraph?

On March 19 2014 13:20 Holyflare wrote:
K what do you make of dp's case on new guy (is he banks from dm?)

On March 19 2014 15:19 Tehpoofter wrote:



I like that. I feel like thats a reasonable arguement and I kinda set you up to bury rayn there or throw some suspicion on him espeiclaly since he just came in and rando voted and didnt say anything. I don't think you're maf unless you're maf with exactly rayn here. From just a preliminary read I like the place your head is at vivax.

On March 19 2014 18:52 Palmar wrote:
I'm amazed you think tehpoofter looks better than me.

I agree on Koshi and rayn, although you didn't get the correct reasoning for Koshi's alignment. The reason Koshi is town is that during the whole Coag/rayn thing he was actively trying to move the thread on from that argument. I think rayn is town so there is literally no reason for scum to try to stop an argument between what seem to be two townies.

This basically means that Koshi should be everyone's favorite townread at the moment.

On March 19 2014 21:51 Palmar wrote:


How is it not? Knowing Coag's flip can you think of ANY reason at all for scumKoshi to do what he did during that discussion? If you're town, and from your point of view you have to be town, what motivation does a scumkoshi have to stop the argument between townies?

On March 19 2014 22:04 Holyflare wrote:
Other than that i think koshi pretty town

On March 19 2014 22:10 Holyflare wrote:
Rayn i thought your case on coag was blown way out of proportion for something so little and coag got mad because of it, i thought he looked worse because of the mad but i wouldn't leap to scum and i haven't really played games with coag to say it was town either

I didn't like dp for his change of stance on coag though from liking that post to going completely scummy on it and then ignoring stuff coag was saying to then goving coag an out

On March 19 2014 22:15 Palmar wrote:
also rayn, I will move to hopeless if you provide me with these lies you say he said.

On March 19 2014 22:18 Holyflare wrote:
well koshi had the same stance as me?

On March 19 2014 22:21 Koshi wrote:

It was not that Coag is town. But that you were painting him too red for something that wasn't extremely bad in my eyes. I also wanted you to look at other people and not spend all time on Coag. It wasn't doing the town atmosphere any favors. Looking back at my filter I was pretty protective about Coag from the get go but like I said, I am talented.

On March 19 2014 22:06 Koshi wrote:

I should. Because I am smart & talented.

It was obvious to me he was town. I told you why a couple times but you wouldn't listen. So pls don't tell me I didn't told you why you should have stopped the tunnel. I did so in 3 different posts.

On March 19 2014 22:25 Hopeless1der wrote:

he was constantly explaining why coag was not scum. In light of the fact that there are only two alignments in the game, a binary function of notscum=town should apply.

On March 19 2014 22:28 Koshi wrote:

Well. That is awkard.
It wasn't obvious from the start and yesterday I was somewhat conflicted but with a clear head I could totally have seen him town. Somewhere I knew he was town, even though one can never be sure sure.

On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote:
I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps

On March 19 2014 22:51 Djodref wrote:


Well, I didn't call you mafia for your reaction to the seal. I wanted to let DP know that his reasoning to pin you town was bad from my point of view and that I wouldn't trust him on that.

On March 19 2014 11:15 Hopeless1der wrote:

- waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town

- Coag is town

- HF is scummy

- DP is leaning town

- Palmar is town (not green town)

Anything else you feel I could actually comment on at this point that wouldnt be meaningless speculation?

On March 19 2014 11:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
i cant do that thrawn. rayn would be town due to statistics, not because of a particular read. p.s. i'm going to bed now.

If you didn't come back after ragequitting on coag's seal you'd be scummy because rayn doesnt do that shit as either alignment.

On March 19 2014 23:17 Holyflare wrote:
lol forgot hopeless was modding culture (last game) where rayn was town and afk'd after a policy vote and he like never came back till after deadline, so why did you mention the ~5 hour thing being scummy on rayn when you know that not to be true?

On March 19 2014 23:20 Holyflare wrote:


hopeless was a mod in culture, you went afk for a good portion of day 1 because you got mad at some shit like mocsta and were just sheeping me instead, you were town and afk'd past deadline after getting mad?

On March 19 2014 23:24 Djodref wrote:
Could you answer me why you chose to support an Hopeless lynch instead of a GT lynch ?

On March 19 2014 23:32 Koshi wrote:
rayn, don't you think Hopeless is too active to be scum?

On March 19 2014 23:33 Koshi wrote:
But he can be active as scum though. I just remember him to not do it unless needed (Time to die, Shadowed)

On March 19 2014 23:35 Djodref wrote:


No, I wanted to say that his meta argument was really light. Now that we know that Coag is town, there was no real way for him to know if it was kush or not so the meta argument was not acceptable imo.

On March 19 2014 23:40 Djodref wrote:


No, I want to say that you pushing town Coag with not enough arguments and not doing really anything else before announcing that you would go AFK makes you look bad in my eyes.

On March 19 2014 23:43 Djodref wrote:


Here.

On March 19 2014 23:54 Djodref wrote:


It looks like you wrote this posts to convince people that the hydra Coag was mafia. Did you not ?
I consider this an argument based on kush meta that you used to push your lynch.


And I don't consider this argument and the post you quoted from Coag are enough to justify the time you spend on him.
Is it clear enough now ?

On March 19 2014 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote:

whhattt why do you have a townread on me?

On March 19 2014 18:57 Oatsmaster wrote:

1-2 examples?

On March 19 2014 20:51 Oatsmaster wrote:

They could both be town or scum, just asking for a read.

I think Vivax is town I agree with palmar.

I dunno about Djo though, I actually think that he is purposely not participating in what is going on.

On March 20 2014 00:03 Palmar wrote:
Thing is it's annoying having seen how good Oats can be as town (foundation mafia) that he isn't trying as hard. It doesn't make him scum because he's also very often lurky and useless as town, it would just be vastly preferable if he wasn't.

On March 19 2014 06:58 Hopeless1der wrote:
That's not very scoobydoo...I'd rather lynch holy based on that casework.

On March 19 2014 07:02 Hopeless1der wrote:

when was this...stupid and terrible holyflare is scum

On March 19 2014 09:45 Hopeless1der wrote:

he's either buddying (scummy) or inferring things about your posts that aren't there (possibly scummy). whats your game history like with HF?

On March 19 2014 10:39 Hopeless1der wrote:
for the sake of transparency, I did not read the game holy is talking about. I know that he "caught" his scumbuddy off of "scooby doo" and completely fooled rayn and the rest of town in cultured. In that game it was both true and a moderately reliable tell that he used. This game he did not have that in his push on either DP or me.

On March 19 2014 11:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
so you are saying this was the post you "scoobydoo'd" suki with in culture? I dont know what scooby doo means, i inferred that it simply meant caught a scummer.

At any rate, all this results in is that Really Small (i think, whatever game you caught GGTemplar in referred to below) and Cultured both show you using this "method". There was a reason for it, and afaik it came down to

My initial comments were that your case on DP hinged on him /outing due to hydras then policying hydras (i.e. bullshit pregame stuff). Its stupid and terrible and by no means should anyone have considered it a scumtell.

On March 19 2014 09:08 Giggletummy wrote:
[...]
I do not enjoy it and have started "heavily skimming" all coag <--> rayn stuff.

rayn looks worse for it, because rayn can be useful when he's bouncing all the walls and accusing everyone of being mafia. I assume that I'm not the only one who is now "heavily skimming" his posts when they involve coag and coag things.

I don't actually follow who coag is this game (coag, coag/kush, coag/kush + more?). But he's posting a bunch so even if it's this fight with rayn that makes me happy. Double standard ftw

On March 20 2014 00:58 Koshi wrote:
rayn, I will also tell you that Vivax is mafia because in all his towngames (Sicilian, Cultured, Titanic 1) he was superactive and always on top of the thread. His 1 scumgame (GoT) he was talking in the past and afk 24/7.

We can wait and see on him but he looks hella scum.

On March 20 2014 01:04 Hopeless1der wrote:

rayn...I did not, have not and probably will not read Really Small.

I know what game it was because its in Holy's filter in Cultured, where he explained what scoobydooing someone is with respect to catching GGTemplar.

There's no conflict in logic or reasoning here. I didnt have a full blown scum read on Holy when I mentioned scooby doo the first time, I was simply saying his case on DP was poop soup to quote giggles.

On March 19 2014 07:05 Hopeless1der wrote:
cultured: he went full choose your own adventure mode, bussed a teammate for all the towncred and soloed to victory off championship belt reputation
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444078-cultured-mini-mafia

On March 20 2014 01:15 Hopeless1der wrote:

DP asked if HF has done stupid things as scum before, I consider choose your adventure stupid. I referred DP to cultured and gave a very brief synopsis of HF's play in that game if he was so inclined to review what occured in it.

On March 20 2014 01:22 Hopeless1der wrote:

while true, i didnt intend to say that the gflynch was a result of the minigame (even though thats what scooby doo is, i didnt comprehend that before)

On March 20 2014 01:36 Giggletummy wrote:
coag as mafia not only doesn't post but he doesn't even interact with the thread. There's some old game where he replaces in as mafia and essentially just made 1-2 posts a day, sometimes claiming not to know when lynch is or what day it is. coag posting a bunch and getting incensed is unlike that and more likely town coag. am i the only person who didn't know early on that coag was actually a boatload of people on his account?

On March 20 2014 01:36 Giggletummy wrote:
coag as mafia not only doesn't post but he doesn't even interact with the thread. There's some old game where he replaces in as mafia and essentially just made 1-2 posts a day, sometimes claiming not to know when lynch is or what day it is. coag posting a bunch and getting incensed is unlike that and more likely town coag. am i the only person who didn't know early on that coag was actually a boatload of people on his account?

On March 20 2014 01:53 Palmar wrote:
to be fair if that one person is Kush then it's not like you should expect activity galore. And I think coag said almost all of what he posted was coag and coag only.

On March 20 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:
That Coag read isn't what makes GT mafia, it's the promising content/failing to deliver as I pointed out earlier that does.

On March 20 2014 02:00 Holyflare wrote:


he hasn't said he had a read on you at all, in fact he didn't even call you scummy for misrepresenting him like you did. He said we should stop clogging up the thread with the scooby doo stuff but then started all this coag stuff which has 0 relevance as he hasn't called you scum at all

On March 20 2014 02:07 Holyflare wrote:



I'm quoting what he was saying



He doesn't call you scummy or anything, just that you look bad. He doesn't even mention his earlier thought processes of me and dp just about this which had already happened at the time he was around anyway

On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:


rayn you're a dumbass.

Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time.

My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it.

On March 19 2014 19:35 thrawn2112 wrote:


here is my current pool of lynch candidates, i've arrived at this list by eliminating people who have done things that make me think they must be or probably are town

3. Hopeless1der
4. djodref
5. Holyflare
6. VisceraEyes
11. Oatsmaster
12. GiggleTummy
15. Alakaslam

I never said "VE over some other guys," there are obviously a lot of people in this game that deserve to die

On March 20 2014 03:03 thrawn2112 wrote:


this post felt pretty truthful

On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm going to give you my thoughts on his entire filter because he has one and I can.

His intro post is odd because on the one hand it gives "content" which he then needs to explain if asked, but on the other hand it's content that is easily dismissable because A) it's so early and no one has done anything and B) the reasoning he gives is so nebulous and largely non-alignment-indicative that it can pretty much just be taken for what it is - an MSPaint drawing in a forum game. But he /does/ give reasoning so meh.

The weird part is where he states explicitly that he doesn't have a read on me, that he's pinging for a reaction and that you can ignore it. Like, okay fine. So he was pinging me.

But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.

Anyway moving on, he then interjects into the HF-DP discussion to ask HF if DP's read makes him scum, in a way that seems like he's on the DP-town side of things. This is...fine to me. He doesn't ask in a way that makes you think HF looks worse, he feels like he thinks HF and DP are BOTH town, which I sort of agree with.

And he then pockets Vivax hard. Not sure if intentional, but Vivax has said some townie things and I agree that he looks town, so he may have just been overstating it or whatever.

Ultimately I think Banks is PROOOOBABLY town. I just agree with a couple of the things he's saying in what he's not saying, and in spite of him consistently calling me scum I think he's probably town.

On March 20 2014 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Don't worry Vivax. There is no way Koshi is going to lynch you based on inactivity.
Just post stuff when you are caught up.

On March 20 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:


Leaning heavily towards yes

On March 20 2014 05:54 VisceraEyes wrote:
rayn I'd like you to explain why you think thrawn is town. HF raised a really good point about thrawn leaving DP off his PoE list earlier and I don't really know how you missed that. It's pretty blatant.

On March 20 2014 03:27 thrawn2112 wrote:
excuse me for not wanting to wade through your early shitposting hf. lately I think you've been really townie but that stuff in the beginning reminded me of all the reasons I hate playing mafia. you were being needlessly antagonistic. i'm not dp, and despite not knowing his alignment I felt bad for him because of how you were playing the bully. you were accusing DP of doing nothng while at the same time, spending all of your energy making sure that he can't get anything accomplished thanks to your constant one liner interjections and useless insults. all of which (the insults and useless one liners) made it really hard for me to judge either of you based the arguments you were having, so I decided I wasn't going to care about your alignments until you guys started doing other things. and that is why I asked you to stfu about dp.

so yes, in the context of my job as a townie I am bad for skimming all of that, but I don't care

On March 20 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean to put it another way, the Scooby Doo nonsense has led him to his best (and only?) scumread of the game - so how can he possibly believe that it's not productive?

On March 20 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
I mean to put it another way, the Scooby Doo nonsense has led him to his best (and only?) scumread of the game - so how can he possibly believe that it's not productive?

On March 20 2014 06:23 Hopeless1der wrote:

well then again he could be calling it scummy because its "useless"

On March 20 2014 07:02 Hopeless1der wrote:
Apples are scummy because of xyz
lets talk about apples
stop talking about xyz

have i read the situation correctly?

On March 20 2014 07:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
And the Holyflare stuff is NOT useless anyway - that's my point. It's NOT useless and he's just calling it useless.

On March 20 2014 07:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
I like how rayn agreed with my point earlier but suddenly now that I've raised ONE red flag in his play, suddenly my play doesn't make sense and he can't read me as town. What a load of shit.

On March 20 2014 05:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That is in fact really wierd. I noticed it too. He does not even call Holyflare mafia.

On March 20 2014 07:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
That WAS my point rayn. You agreed with it then, and now you're saying it's invalid because of some summary bullshit post I made after the fact. Fuck you.

On March 20 2014 07:09 Holyflare wrote:

Yes it is

On March 20 2014 07:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
No in my post I literally say "GT cannot believe what he's saying"

Stop putting words in my mouth, especially if you're going to use the word "literally".

On March 20 2014 07:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
I THINK GT IS SCUM AND SO DO YOU WHY ARE YOU ATTACKING ME ON THE PREMISE THAT GT IS TOWN RAYN?!!? WHY?!@?!?

On March 20 2014 07:37 Palmar wrote:
Wow, not even me?

On March 20 2014 07:38 Koshi wrote:
I am going to bed soon. Bath first.
Is there something special you want to talk about?
Head heavy again.

On March 20 2014 07:29 Tehpoofter wrote:
@GT Your entire filter is about HF being scum do you have any town reads? Any reads on other scum? Which of the lurkers is most likely to be a good town later assuming they're town. Like the tunneling you're doing on HF seems scummy someone said earlier having only one read tends to be maf sided I have to agree with that.

On March 20 2014 08:16 DarthPunk wrote:
OK I am wading through Piles and Piles of meta bullshit whilst catching up with the thread. I am going to ignore meta based cases from this point forward. If you can't explain why someone is mafia based on their actions in this thread you should not be trying to lynch that person as far as I am concerned.

On March 20 2014 09:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Serious question:

tehpoofer, Djodref and Giggletummy what do you think Hopeless' alignment is?

On March 20 2014 09:11 Djodref wrote:


You mean the Koshi vote ?
I found him very straightforward and open in the way he voted me. He pointed out at my demand what he found scummy in my play and warned me that I should step up my game. I didn't do it and I feel like I got what I deserved.
Thrawn and Oats votes are less explanatory.

On March 20 2014 09:54 DarthPunk wrote:
That is an interesting observation rayn. I don;t think we should be making associations before we flip some mofo's however.

On March 20 2014 10:04 Hopeless1der wrote:

i'm an orange. true story.