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On March 21 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum.
I think it could fit well in the case where mafia didn't try to influence the lynch that much during D1. Actually your question about who mafia try to push today opened my eyes because I realized that they didn't push me, or very little even if I was the perfect mislynch. I want to read again the thread from midday where GT and me were both the main lynch candidates with the assumption that GT is town and see what I get from there. I won't do it tonight though because I need some sleep first. Slam didn't do anything so he immediately fits well in this hypothesis. And Palmar did push GT the strongest.
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On March 21 2014 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 21 2014 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up? I wouldn't call that "easy" necessarily. With GT being the only counterwagon to Vivax that's going to make it a little stranger to lynch him tomorrow for most people I would assume. That's my problem. GT being mafia would make sense but if GT is mafia wtf was mafia doing whole D1??
having 0 thread presence because vivax was afk, gt was afk
(if the others are djo and hopeless): they had no thread presence, no authority and couldn't push off either without looking weird
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On March 21 2014 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up?
I don't think so because mafia would have tried to lynch me over GT. Or they would have planned to bus GT but Vivax didn't do it.
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On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref and giggletummy.
What mislynches mafia tried to push throughout D1 and why? Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it. I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually... Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help. I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to. In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything. Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum. In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case. So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one. I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players.
On March 21 2014 07:36 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref i am more interested in why you think Slam/Palmar are scum. I think it could fit well in the case where mafia didn't try to influence the lynch that much during D1. Actually your question about who mafia try to push today opened my eyes because I realized that they didn't push me, or very little even if I was the perfect mislynch. I want to read again the thread from midday where GT and me were both the main lynch candidates with the assumption that GT is town and see what I get from there. I won't do it tonight though because I need some sleep first. Slam didn't do anything so he immediately fits well in this hypothesis. And Palmar did push GT the strongest. How do the red and green go together?
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djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time?
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Like, you say you don't think GT is mafia, so mafia did not need to do anything on D1 at that time. Then the reason you give for Palmar to be mafia is that he pushed the GT lynch strongest!?!?!?
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On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means?
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On March 21 2014 07:36 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On March 21 2014 07:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Can this just be so easy that GT is mafia and Vivax fucked up? I wouldn't call that "easy" necessarily. With GT being the only counterwagon to Vivax that's going to make it a little stranger to lynch him tomorrow for most people I would assume. That's my problem. GT being mafia would make sense but if GT is mafia wtf was mafia doing whole D1?? having 0 thread presence because vivax was afk, gt was afk (if the others are djo and hopeless): they had no thread presence, no authority and couldn't push off either without looking weird
I agree that mafia had 0 thread presence on day 1. If GT is scum, then they didn't have enough presence to push the lynch on me... (like seriously?) If GT is town, it kind of explain why they didn't even try to do anything, because day 1 was ez mislynch for them then.
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On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means?
because mafia roll over and die when they get called out
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On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth.
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On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? because mafia roll over and die when they get called out No they don't.
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On March 21 2014 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? because mafia roll over and die when they get called out No they don't.
that was so beyond sarcastic i have no idea how it has gone so far over your head
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On March 21 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? because mafia roll over and die when they get called out No they don't. that was so beyond sarcastic i have no idea how it has gone so far over your head you need to start tagging things..
holyflare so gud /sarcasm
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On March 21 2014 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth. There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already.
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On March 21 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? because mafia roll over and die when they get called out No they don't. that was so beyond sarcastic i have no idea how it has gone so far over your head i was being beyond your beyond!
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On March 21 2014 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth. There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already. Yeah, but to me it looks like he's trying to work things out instead of stumbling through his previous narrative.
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On March 21 2014 07:48 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2014 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:44 Hopeless1der wrote:On March 21 2014 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2014 07:42 Hopeless1der wrote: djo is obviously confused. do you really think he has the balls to call himself a mislynch this hard and waste all this time? I don't understand what this means? i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth. There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already. Yeah, but to me it looks like he's trying to work things out instead of stumbling through his previous narrative. Well he said: "mafia did not try to push anything" "Palmar is mafia because he pushed GT" "mafia had no thread precense"
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If mafia had no thread presence it should be Hopeless, Slam and idk someone but not Palmar who is mafia in Djodref's mind. Because Palmar actually did have thread presence and is capable of pushing lynches in general.
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On March 21 2014 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like, you say you don't think GT is mafia, so mafia did not need to do anything on D1 at that time. Then the reason you give for Palmar to be mafia is that he pushed the GT lynch strongest!?!?!?
I don't know honestly... I want to read the thread again
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