III Titanic Mini Mafia: MS Paint Edition - Page 102

On March 21 2014 01:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What does this mean? I don't get it.

On March 21 2014 01:55 Holyflare wrote:


You just said "it doesn't really prove vivax's alignment" which means it's wifom which means that what o said isn't scummy by nature... Lol

On March 21 2014 01:57 Giggletummy wrote:
Yup. He's fantastically likely to be scum for lying like this.

But as you just noted, sometimes townies lie and do ridiculous things. That doesn't mean vivax is town, that means that lying for no discernible reason is like 95/5 scummy.

On March 21 2014 02:02 thrawn2112 wrote:
-the post where he angrily wrote out his schedule

On March 21 2014 01:59 Giggletummy wrote:
HF, how about instead of just flinging accusations, you comment on VE. I assume you will continue to say that you yourself aren't scum, but how about VE?

On March 21 2014 02:05 Holyflare wrote:


Flinging accusations lol? You JUST made a case on why I'm scum which was terrible, full of wifom abd showed you hadn't really updated your read on me since your last thread entry.

I do not know about ve's alignment, i agreed with his vivax point that his opening looked towny and i agreed on his point about you and you are doing it again.

I am your scum read and you tried to get discussion about your scum read dropped and then had 0 more discussion about your scum read but then wasted time discussing about coag with rayn (your town read) who you called out for misrepresentation but never scum

On March 20 2014 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Now here is what Hopeless says at the start of the game about Holyflare:




Now Hopeless thinks Holyflare is mafia. What are the possible reasons for thinking this based on his posts:

• Bad meta-case on DarthPunk (which was a joke)
  
• His behavior matches with Cultured where he made a mini-game and bussed his teammate based on it (why else he would make the post about Cultured game?)
  
• Post about Palmar that is bad logic
  

Based on Hopeless posting there is no other reason why he should think Holyflare is mafia or he is not telling us everything. Now this is what he says later on:



Now look at the blue, red and green part of the posting history of Hopeless:

• In the blue part he clearly references to the games where Holyflare has used a mini-game.
  
• In the red part he says he has not in fact read those games closely (which can't be true because he directly references to Scooby Doo which was the original mini game Holyflare created as town, here)
  
• In the green part he contradicts himself by saying he does not know what Scooby Doo means. That cannot possibly be true because again, in this very part, he directly references to the game (Really Small mafia) Holyflare did it. He also contradicts the blue part because in the blue part he clearly implies Holyflare is mafia based on a mini game he did as scum. But he has done that as town too and Hopeless does not address this at all until here.
  

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TLDR;

• The blue-red-green part is an obvious contradiction and there is something that does not make sense. Most likely the blue part is to try making someone look bad with using only partial information (only referencing to scumgame and not looking the whole picture) while knowing (green proves that) something is not alignment indicative.
  
• Other reasons for calling Holyflare mafia are not good as stated before. The meta-case on DarthPunk was a joke and Hopeless does not follow up on this in any way when Holyflare answers him. The Palmar post is a stretch because Holyflare is not inferring anything, at least Hopeless never points anything concrete out. he just says Holyflare does something without explaining where.
  
• I still stand behind my statement that you can't say "rayn is likely town" unless you have a read on me and therefore i conclude Hopeless made a baseless read on me, did not give any real reasoning and when thrawn questioned him about it he could not answer and instead he just changed his story because he did not have real answers or thought process.
  
• There is nothing else he has done in this game besides given some reads that are worth nothing because there is no reasoning behind them.
  

And that's why i think Hopeless is mafia.

On March 20 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The point about Scooby doo is that there is no fucking reason for Hopeless to bring up the Cultured argument in thread in the first place if he does not think it makes Holyflare mafia and the argument is either forged as fuck or totally incorrect and Hopeless is the laziest guy on the planet because he does not even bother to to check the validity of his arguments. Neither of the options makes any sense from town perspective!!

On March 20 2014 01:03 Giggletummy wrote:
I don't understand this.

On March 20 2014 01:04 Palmar wrote:
no one does.

On March 20 2014 01:13 Holyflare wrote:
Ok hopeless. You didn't read really small mafia but you know what scooby dooing is, so how was that relevant to the "case" on dp? If you read cultured and knew the explanation for what scooby dooing meant then you know it was legitimate and worked in those games. So why mention "that's not a very scooby doo case" when it didn't apply to that case at all? You scum read me because I make "useless posts as scum" or whatever but then you claim that I'm scum for not making a scooby doo case? The only game you referenced was culture where I used scooby doo and got my gf lynched.

So how do those 2 things add up together? Either you wanted me to scooby doo on DP because it works and isn't useless but i didn't do that so you thought I was scum or you think in culture I posted useless things and therefore am scum because I was doing that here too? How can you try and determine my alignment from something that you only referenced me doing as scum that was based off of a town game?

On March 20 2014 01:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holyflare eats bananas as town, Does anyone know if he does that as mafia too?
Yeah Holyflare eats apples as mafia and as town.

On March 20 2014 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hmm i kinda get what Hopeless is saying here.
I still don't get the read on me, it just does not make any sense.

On March 21 2014 02:08 Koshi wrote:
Giggletummy. Let is be known I will be disappointed in you when you flip scum.

On March 21 2014 02:11 Giggletummy wrote:
bated*

I think that's the right spelling?

On March 21 2014 01:45 Koshi wrote:

I like the point he makes how VE is not showing any decent thought concerning his vote on GT but VE knows very well why Vivax is town. It's odd because Vivax being town was not "obvious".

On March 21 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote:
Right so scooby do became irrelevant and annoying to you so then why did you drop everything to do with discerning the alignment of your scum read to talk to your town read about an already flipped town?