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VE that's an even greater reason to draw up something fancy to /in | ||
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On March 11 2014 05:47 Hopeless1der wrote: p.s. this is a /in | ||
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On March 15 2014 03:02 Holyflare wrote: We should technically have won that game because onegu had all 3 deathly hallows but ppl didn't like that cz QQ If you really want to get technical I was supposed to have 24 hours to confirm onegu's alignment since I had the stone and a DT check(ish). But host errors and such. Town still got it done. Hero elder wand sniping. | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did. Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it. I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. when was this...stupid and terrible holyflare is scum | ||
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On March 19 2014 07:37 Holyflare wrote: How many people are you going to ask the same question to and when are you actually going to scum hunt? he's going to ask errbody about it since its one of the most productive use of threadspace at the moment. | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:43 Palmar wrote: You pointing out rayn does this as either alignment is completely irrelevant, I already said it wasn't alignment indicative which is essentially the same thing. Remember that story I told earlier about refusing to lynch a townie based on a post 5 minutes into the game? The post's contents were "lolol". There was literally nothing else in the post. There is no connection between "Palmar likes a post" and "Palmar thinks this post provides something of value". If I thought DP had a good point, I'd have said so. All I said was that I liked the post, it looked like something written by a townie. The "solid logic" is a tounge in cheek post. why are you so serious HF? he's either buddying (scummy) or inferring things about your posts that aren't there (possibly scummy). whats your game history like with HF? | ||
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On March 19 2014 09:56 Palmar wrote: ie: coag should be modkilled. If he isn't, I'm just not gonna care about it. If he's town, fine, if he's scum, the game was rigged and is invalid. This is dumb, even for you palmar. | ||
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On March 19 2014 10:41 Holyflare wrote: because i've made like 1 post with paint in it? you called DP scum for pregame banter and outright bullshit and then me scum because I called you out for it...what does paint pictures have to do with it? | ||
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On February 26 2014 10:26 suki wrote: Someone tell me what HolyFlare is doing. In the meantime: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1qmRs4h.png) so you are saying this was the post you "scoobydoo'd" suki with in culture? I dont know what scooby doo means, i inferred that it simply meant caught a scummer. At any rate, all this results in is that Really Small (i think, whatever game you caught GGTemplar in referred to below) and Cultured both show you using this "method". There was a reason for it, and afaik it came down to On February 26 2014 21:52 Holyflare wrote: Well in really small mafia I did the scooby doo thing and the way I caught GGTemplar was from his joining in with the mini game while questioning what the hell was going on and perpetuating that I was clogging up the thread. Suki did a similar start to this but didn't perpetuate it, hence why I wanted to let her post more to see if she would. Either way, her posting style was quite evident in her town games and I haven't seen it here yet but she's promised to deliver more later so I can only wait and see. My initial comments were that your case on DP hinged on him /outing due to hydras then policying hydras (i.e. bullshit pregame stuff). Its stupid and terrible and by no means should anyone have considered it a scumtell. | ||
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On March 19 2014 11:10 thrawn2112 wrote: hi hopeless. this is for you + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/U9wOTR1.png) can you answer dp's question? - waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town - Coag is town - HF is scummy - DP is leaning town - Palmar is town (not green town) Anything else you feel I could actually comment on at this point that wouldnt be meaningless speculation? | ||
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HF for being dense and altogether not useful rayn for being rayn palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him | ||
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Actually Holyflare's case on Hopeless is really good. I think Hopeless is mafia. He in fact DID reference to the scooby-doo game where Holyflare was town, he used the exact wording so he has read the game. Then he gives another example fully knowing Holyflare has done the same thing as both alignments and therefore his "case" (or accusation, i don't even know what the hell that is) is an outright lie. Hopeless is mafia, Holyflare is town. I have no fucking idea why DarthPunk does not get that. I also don't get why he is fixated in me/Coag thing. There is nothing to say about it and Holyflare apparently does not think either of us is mafia because he has not brought that up. DP thinks both of us are town, why the fuck does he want to question anyone about it? Maybe he is scum. Hopeless says this: This is complete bullshit. Absolutely terrible logic. I am either town in which case you should not lynch me or i am scum in which case you should lynch me. This is "if this happens then X if not then Y", not a read. That dude is mafia. thrawn looks much better for pointing this out. Especially this line from Hopeless: Second time his story does not match with what he said earlier. Earlier he clearly said "otherwise he's likely town", and when thrawn points out the "conditional crap" (i loved that thrawn) he suddenly does not have a read any more, which is contradictory to what he said before. Lynch with fire. Mafia. Rayn assert's I have flat out lied. You are free to draw a conclusion Palmar. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:24 raynpelikoneet wrote: You NEVER explain why you think Coag is town. NEVER. In any of those posts Koshi. he was constantly explaining why coag was not scum. In light of the fact that there are only two alignments in the game, a binary function of notscum=town should apply. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:23 Holyflare wrote: I want to discuss him and it's nothing to do with association it's reads that don't add up with motives: Says me and dp are town but wary that one of us is full of crap - gives himself a scum on one clause Says i could be scum because of fluff related to dp but ignores everything else Says dp could be scum because of x, y, z, a, b, c but the doesn't poe dp after saying all the things I've pointed out about dp. Either he agrees with me in which case i shouldn't be poe'd because he's sheeping me or he disagrees with me and i shouldn't be poe'd because he said I'm probably town It's a fault of mindset This reminds me of hogwarts when we had an internal check on our house and I PoE'd it down to you right after I finished calling you (and everyone else in our house) town. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show me one legit reason from Koshi's posts that can be considered as a towntell. notscum=town to me until explicitly stated null or otherwise. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:31 Holyflare wrote: Hopeless it's like i care but i really don't. This is nothing like hogwarts, there's no red check it's thrawn posting something that doesn't make sense. Either respond about it or respond to something else but stop using scenarios that don't apply. It is a very similar situation. I called you town, then I was coerced into naming one of our house scum so I resorted to PoE. Thrawn has no such pressure on him and did it of his own free will but the mentality of "one of them is probably scum, which one...hmmm...this guy" still applies. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:43 Holyflare wrote: I don't think you lied about the scooby doo thing if that helps basically i didn't want you trolling like what you pulled in cultured so I got on your case as soon as I saw you doing ridiculous things. The Phoenix Wright stuff looked like pregame-plan, or you draw really well really fast. Based on the adventures of kiterayn, I don't think you can draw that well on demand. Your case on DP is based on his pre-game assertion that he dislikes hydras and was at one point willing to /out because of it. You used a mindset that can't be assigned to an alignment and when DP was consistent with it, tried to spin it to make him look scummy in-game because it allowed him to push scum-agenda. This is after you call your read But I'm the bad guy for taking you even remotely seriously. | ||
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On March 19 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote: The second point is Hopeless said "...otherwise rayn is town" which clearly means he has formed some sort of a read on me. After thrawn questions him about this read he says "i don't have a read on rayn, it's purely based on statistics". One of those two statements must be bullshit because they can't both be true. Direct quotes if you please. You're wrong | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: You can't possibly say "if he comes back he is likely town" unless you have a read on me. That's impossible. I damn well can, because I did. What you mean to say is that I can't believe that if I am town, which again, is false because I do believe it. The word I was looking for was "likely", because statistically, with nothing else to consider, every player is more likely to flip town. Basic probability. i.e. null if you prefer that way of looking at it. If you didn't come back after ragequitting on coag's seal you'd be scummy because rayn doesnt do that shit as either alignment. You're active and doing stuff. That doesnt go one way or the other in your case for who's team you're on. You're likely to be town because scum will shoot you if you are and I wont need to worry about it. That's a horrible lapse in logic but it's likely true regardless. | ||
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On March 19 2014 23:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless do you think VE is likely town? not really, but thats because of his own disappearing act. similar to GT's. they're are reasons that I would support behind lynching them but not actual scumreads. | ||
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On March 20 2014 00:35 Giggletummy wrote: Flare/hopeless, and to a lesser extent DP. hopeless, do you tend to AFK or lurk as mafia? More than town games? Flare, after hopeless answers, do you agree with hopeless's answer? I see you calling out what town/scum DP does, what other people do, but if hopeless is actually known for being lurky/AFK as mafia, why would you not just wait for a clear scumtell in a little bit? I generally lurk and make random one-liners until I'm threatened with lynch. Regardless of alignment. I guess I'm more light and open as town? The usual, stereotypical, cliche tells. | ||
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On March 20 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: The point about Scooby doo is that there is no fucking reason for Hopeless to bring up the Cultured argument in thread in the first place if he does not think it makes Holyflare mafia and the argument is either forged as fuck or totally incorrect and Hopeless is the laziest guy on the planet because he does not even bother to to check the validity of his arguments. Neither of the options makes any sense from town perspective!! rayn...I did not, have not and probably will not read Really Small. I know what game it was because its in Holy's filter in Cultured, where he explained what scoobydooing someone is with respect to catching GGTemplar. There's no conflict in logic or reasoning here. I didnt have a full blown scum read on Holy when I mentioned scooby doo the first time, I was simply saying his case on DP was poop soup to quote giggles. | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:08 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay let's go from the beginnig. Why did you make this post: DP asked if HF has done stupid things as scum before, I consider choose your adventure stupid. I referred DP to cultured and gave a very brief synopsis of HF's play in that game if he was so inclined to review what occured in it. | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: DP was literally referring to the meta-case. What has that to do with mini games? not one thing. | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless: "He made a mini-game and bussed his godfather based on it. (He has also done a mini-game as town, which resulted in a scum lynch)" Like what the hell? while true, i didnt intend to say that the gflynch was a result of the minigame (even though thats what scooby doo is, i didnt comprehend that before) | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care what you didn't intend to say. I am interested in what you were intending to say with that post because in my opinion it has nothing to do with what DarthPunk askedd. Correct. | ||
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On March 20 2014 01:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless who do you think is mafia? No good answer atm. I wouldnt lynch Holy but I dont like him much. Giggles: On March 19 2014 08:58 Giggletummy wrote: It is me noting something for reasons. Will discuss later, want to talk to Flare I want this followup | ||
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On March 20 2014 05:53 VisceraEyes wrote: I mean to put it another way, the Scooby Doo nonsense has led him to his best (and only?) scumread of the game - so how can he possibly believe that it's not productive? i really like this point. I also want an excuse to not sheep palmar or rayn for the lulz ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jZ7vEnT.png) | ||
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On March 20 2014 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm saying that if GT is town, then he can't possibly believe that the "scooby doo nonsense" is not productive as it has led him to his best and only scumread. He can't POSSIBLY believe it as town. So I think he's scum just making up bullshit, to either cover for a scumbuddy or buy credibility if/when Hopeless flips town. well then again he could be calling it scummy []ibecause[/i] its "useless" | ||
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On March 20 2014 06:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Are you disagreeing with VE here? I thought you just voted with him based on this exact reasoning. i mildly reconsidered but there's still you and palmar being awesome. | ||
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lets talk about apples stop talking about xyz have i read the situation correctly? | ||
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On March 20 2014 07:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show me where i say your point that Giggletummy does not really call Holyflare mafia is invalid? so VE's driving a bus or....? because that is what the inferred conclusion is. | ||
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On March 20 2014 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote: Like I believe that if GT were town and scumreading Holyflare he wouldn't be trying to SQUELCH the "scooby doo nonsense". Why? Because it's A LARGE PART of what he finds scummy about Holyflare right? So why would he want everyone to stop talking about it? It doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. this was initially what i was agreeing with. GT wants HF to dig his own grave and is happy to watch. You eat that banana, then you'll slip on the peel. | ||
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On March 20 2014 09:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing is it does not even matter what the association is. The fact is Hopeless is scummy. Probably not the scummiest or even scummier than any of those three but still scummy. Why does mafia not want to call him scum (because that would be reasonable), even a little? i'm an orange. true story. | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:06 raynpelikoneet wrote: Maybe we should stop talking about you at all and see if you get modkilled as you seem to pop in every time someone mentions the possibility of you being scum and only then.  I like this method of determining my alignment. | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:08 DarthPunk wrote: What do you think of holyflare at this moment in time? On March 20 2014 09:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare is an excellent cop check regardless of what happens on D1. | ||
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VE has a slight chance but I have him as town atm poof/vivax/djo is a clusterfuck to me...at least 1 i guess GT has my vote and then slam hasnt posted anything | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:23 Tehpoofter wrote: Why 1 of DP/HF?? No way they're both town/maf in your eyes? small chance of bus i guess but the amount of bs in the thread because of the early game makes me think one (and only one) of them is scum. | ||
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HF has called me mafia VE has called me mafia Vivax has called me mafia slam hasnt even posted poof i think hasnt addressed me GT has suggested I'm mafia where are you going with this rayn? | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: So it's impossible they are both town? no, but i think one of them is town...for the reason stated, the amount of early game bs and sustained shitshow. | ||
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-alternatively *one of them is scum | ||
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On March 20 2014 10:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: I hope Slam does not post on D1 and we get Prome. oh man i'd be so fucking happy. i havent played with prom in like over a year. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:29 Holyflare wrote: Which is what you did with your unvote before fact checking. Also the fact that what you said makes it even more unlikely for him to be scum because why lie about a page number so why are you voting him straight away? rayn alleged that vivax had lied. DP was receptive to it and unvoted until things could be verified. Its a show of good faith that he is considering the allegation and not dismissing it as absurb. | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't care about DarthPunk or tehpoofer right now Holyflare. I care about Vivax and i am going to write a case on him so that everyone can see what i am talking about after smoke. i dont think you need more than your timeline pic tbh. It sums things up quite well. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:38 DarthPunk wrote: Holy is acting really weird by hard defending Vivax like this IMO agree with this btw | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/McTs0hy.png) *The accusation is based on information presumed to have occurred at or before page 40. | ||
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On March 21 2014 00:43 Holyflare wrote: So you're saying i should continue tunneling because you aren't town? I don't see the issue here. why is dp town? | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:18 Koshi wrote: Pretty good post. I like giggles. | ||
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On March 21 2014 01:42 Holyflare wrote: I wouldn't be a 1/5th of this games posts (since game start) if i was scum i thought page count didnt matter | ||
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On March 21 2014 02:11 Giggletummy wrote: bated* I think that's the right spelling? yes. also "norse god" lol | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: I think he is saying there is no way to do anything about this lynch so he is going to go do something else instead. if he thnks vivax is town, wouldnt trying to convince people to get back onto GT be a better use of his time? | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:19 Vivax wrote: Here's a list of people who should die after my flip cause they're bad or scum: 1. thrawn2112 2. DarthPunk 3. Hopeless1der 4. djodref 5. Holyflare 6. VisceraEyes 7. raynpelikoneet 9. Coagulation 10. tehpoofter 11. Oatsmaster 12. GiggleTummy 13. Koshi 14. Palmar 15. Alakaslam FTFY you angry tardball | ||
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Vivax is Edouard Manet (Roleblocker) -Since everyone confuses you with Monet, you can use that to your advantage, and stun someone into confusion to make them unable to do anything for one night. Target will be informed they are roleblocked. For one night when Hitler does not send in an action, you may borrow his Gas. This will make your roleblock undetectable for the night. In case you missed it (because i did) | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:35 VisceraEyes wrote: No I believe you, just thought it was funny. Giggletummy is next imo. Maybe thrawn. nah HF is next | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:37 VisceraEyes wrote: I'll look at it later. I'm looking at the votes when I say thrawn - he tried to unvote Hopeless at a point and quickly revoted him...could be trying to test sentiment on another lynch. Hopeless1der (0): uhhhhwut? | ||
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On March 21 2014 05:40 Alakaslam wrote: 13 and 3 are different apparently Anyway the no-vote is accurate to my stance I hadn't read. I will return after work and read and make decisions. For now out cya then ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/CC5u8Ol.png) | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i know that. But i doubt he tries to lynch mafia. He tried to lynch tehpoofer so i do not think anyone should try to lynch tehpoofer any more in this game. Also thrawn's conversations with him were really townie. Hopeless never answered Vivax and Vivax didn't give a fuck. He dropped his read on Giggletummy for reasons i don't even know what they were. Do i look better or worse for this, just wondering? | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:07 Holyflare wrote: Rayn is doc | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:08 Koshi wrote: I agree that TehPoofter is likely not scum. Giggle might be because I remember this: Here he pushes me in GoT and he never picks it up later. I think there is scum between Hopeless, giggle and thrawn. Because those 3 names Vivax yelled out randomly. Based on the way that rayn caught Vivax, I think Giggles is the most likely. Not just because my name is in there, the 3 names could be anyone, but Vivax names 3 people then builds a case on only 2 of them, to which rayn correctly interprets and clamps down on: On March 20 2014 11:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Y U no give reasoning on Giggle being mafia Vivax? | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? was that at me or koshi's blue directing? | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:13 Holyflare wrote: Chill out, I'll paint some adventures and we lynch giggle, djo, hopeless. Cop can check any of them to make sure. Or me for safety sake don't really care. You are doc so you are dead! This is a good plan. I like it. | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:13 Koshi wrote: The "case" vivax made here: + Show Spoiler + On March 20 2014 11:03 Vivax wrote: Thrawn, past this conversation you seem to have lost interest into hopeless. You asked these questions and didn't reach a conclusion, and saying Rayn is town due to statistics is a statement I would expect to have raised your eyebrows. Later between 12:00 and 18:00 ish your read on hopeless changes from scum to town, I would like you to explain to me how you had your read evolving here, cause I can't see it, and how the way hopeless responded to the questions below made you feel he would be scum. + Show Spoiler + On March 19 2014 11:15 Hopeless1der wrote: - waiting on rayn to come back, he inevitably will, most likely within the next 15 hours. If he isnt back before ~5 hours to deadline I say we lynch him, otherwise he's likely town - Coag is town - HF is scummy - DP is leaning town - Palmar is town (not green town) Anything else you feel I could actually comment on at this point that wouldnt be meaningless speculation? On March 19 2014 11:29 thrawn2112 wrote: can you explain some of those things? On March 19 2014 11:32 thrawn2112 wrote: most of all I want to hear explanations for the hf/palmar reads, dont worry about coag On March 19 2014 11:34 Hopeless1der wrote: coag for seal HF for being dense and altogether not useful rayn for being rayn palmar for general pigheadedness and his early game telling me to piss off DP for general demeanor though tbh I could cherry pick a reasonable conspiracy/association case from him On March 19 2014 11:36 Hopeless1der wrote: HF insists his reads are legit, unless he's recanted his DP read somewhere that I missed. His case on DP was such a farce I question how he ever earned the championship belt. On March 19 2014 11:41 thrawn2112 wrote: this doesn't help me. if you took this post completely out of context and didn't know anything about this game, you'd have no idea if those reads make those players town or mafia "rayn for being rayn" recently you said that rayn should be lynched if he doesn't come back, but if he does come back he's town. I want to knwo about your read on him right now, not related to some conditional crap in the future. my guess is that you think he;s town but I still want you to explain why The issue I have with your play is that it looked looked like you started stepping up activity post-Coag-confirming-himself-as-town which pretty much guaranteed to make you look like the poop you posted for +1ing that wagon, on the other hand i can't really blame you for delurking, but the timing stuck out to me. _____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Hopeless, the followup is right there, in your face. You still want it for some reason, then don't comment on it and sheep a point VE made in a seemingly semi-trolly mood. This is in strong contrast to the start you delivered where you went instascum on HF, dead-serious. So please read that post by giggle and give me a conclusion, with YOUR reasoning. I still don't understand who he is targetting. Is it thrawn and Hopeless or only Hopeless? I believe it was on both of us, the first bit is about how thrawn's read of me makes no sense and the 2nd is how I didn't see the obvious case GT posted/subsequently asked about. p.s. i cant read gud. | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: You like the plan where we lynch you? that was in order, right? If so, then yes I'm good being lynched day4. | ||
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DarthPunk (0): Coagulation (0): Holyflare (0): Tehpoofter (1): Hopeless1der (0): djodref (1): Giggletummy (2): Vivax (9): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Hoplesss1der, Giggletummy, Not Voting: Alakaslam No particular reasons or conclusions yet, just wanted to paint some more colors. | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless one thing. This: Given the nice vote chart you just posted how do you explain this self-preservation thingy? you caught vivax as scum and i voted accordingly...or i was forced to bus-hammer because someone else was going to and i wanted the cred for it. | ||
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Basically I didn't have a strong read on GT being scum, I just didnt want people coming after me because I'm a a coward like that. I would also say that I believed thread sentiment to be perfectly able to crush me and while it does amazing things for my activity, I don't exactly enjoy having to fight from under a lynch. | ||
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On March 21 2014 06:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless is fine as long as he sheeps the right people even if he does not do anything else. When there is 1 mafia left and he still has not done anything then lynch him maybe. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/21lrqzn.png) | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:22 VisceraEyes wrote: If anyone is aware of a scum game where HF goes HAM all fucking D1 can you link me plz? define goes ham. he was decently active in cultured imo, comparable to this game but I'm biased i guess | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:22 Djodref wrote: @DP Why did you unvote a few minutes after rayn posted his first post about Vivax inchorence ? On March 20 2014 23:31 DarthPunk wrote: I have read the whole thread. And I did unvote before fact checking. Then fact checked. And voted. Sounds like a pretty solid process to me. He lied about it holyflare, when under pressure from rayn, which is generally when scum will lie. It's honestly not hard to understand. comeon djo | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:26 Djodref wrote: @GT What do you think about these assumptions ? + Show Spoiler + On March 21 2014 06:54 Djodref wrote: Actually you came up with Vivax quite late in the day and I don't feel like the mafia could have time to react to it at all and proposed a counter-push. Vivax has been thrown down under the bus hardcore I think, the votecount corroborates it. I don't feel like mafia tried to disrupt the thread that much actually... Please assume that GT and I are both town for one moment, like two townies playing so bad that they end up like the serious potential mislynches for day1, without any help from the mafia or really little help. I think in that case mafia don't feel like they need to do anything and don't try to push anybody. Maybe they add some fuel to the GT's wagon. I still have some doubts about Oats but I don't feel like I was pushed by mafia at all, and in this assumption it means that mafia didn't need to. In this case, mafia was safe for most of D1 and didn't need to do anything. Please assume now that I'm town and that GT is scum. In this case, I think that mafia is bussing GT and is trying to get towncredit for his lynch, and they don't try to push my lynch over his at all. Meaning mafia players are players with enough towncredit and balls to choose the risky strategy to bus a liability D1. But Vivax giving up on GT doesn't make sense in this case. So from my point of view, the first assumption is more likely to be true than the second one. I really would like some feedback on this idea, because I feel like a lot of people have either GT or me pinned as scum, or both of us, while it may very be the case where we are both shit town players. He bussed Suki pretty damn hard in cultured. But that was a bus, so maybe not what you want to see? | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:28 VisceraEyes wrote: HAM as in going after someone hard, making textbook sized cases and just generally making it impossible to see him as scum. The only one I know about is Survivor Series. stupid scroll wheel i need a new mouse | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like: "hey let's call one scumbuddy scum too" "oh shit he is actually being voted, let's not call him scum any more" and of course you of all people know this, but he "thought GT was posting well" after being called out, not before. post-hoc etc etc | ||
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i mean he JUST came to the conclusion that he and GT were mislynches because mafia didnt do anything. He then immediately turns around and says palmar is scum because he did stuff. It happened too fast for it to make sense from a scum perspective, at least I think I would personally be far more aware of whats coming out of my mouth. | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:45 Holyflare wrote: that was so beyond sarcastic i have no idea how it has gone so far over your head you need to start tagging things.. holyflare so gud /sarcasm | ||
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On March 21 2014 07:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is this thing where you are trying to push an idea which is not true in the first place so it's more likely you fuck up something when people ask you questions and demand answers which you have not thought about already. Yeah, but to me it looks like he's trying to work things out instead of stumbling through his previous narrative. | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:32 Holyflare wrote: so if tehpoofter is town like we assumed and giggle flips town and djo flips scum it's dp (scum) accuses poofter (town) but doesn't gain weight, other wagons are djo (scum) and giggle (town), who is he going to dive onto next? Yes, the guy that is town. So....3 mislynches later, OMG guys DP totes scum check did out. | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:33 Holyflare wrote: i'm your top scum read! i should be the only person you want to lynch!?!??! That is correct. You continuing your horrendous tunnel on DP makes me more inclined to lynch you. | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:36 Holyflare wrote: no idea why you are questioning me anyway i am 100% confirmed town, just check my meta! Easy there captain sarcasm | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:49 Holyflare wrote: (also would apply to scum hopeless) wait what? arent you saying that DP had a read on djo and ignored it to go onto GT? Where did I even comment on djo? | ||
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On March 21 2014 08:54 Holyflare wrote: first part yes, he called him scum and said it was wishy washy like his scum game actually read oats' filter because oats is also at the same level as town hero koshi and talks about it a lot and in depth So then why does it apply to me as well (if im scum or whatever) | ||
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On March 21 2014 09:05 Palmar wrote: Because you agreed to lynch giggle, helping him gain more votes than djo. why am i expected to go after djo? is that not the premise of his accusation? | ||
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On March 21 2014 09:09 Palmar wrote: No HF's point is based on djo flipping mafia. And he's saying you joined the opposite wagon to protect Djo your scumbuddy. oh okay, so i can safely ignore this until djo flips mafia, which imo he wont. | ||
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On March 20 2014 21:52 Oatsmaster wrote: I prefer to lynch Djo over GT. I dont think GT is town. | ||
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On March 21 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote: In regards to his conversation with dp about djo obviously you mean like..the stuff in the nested quotes? | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:06 DarthPunk wrote: NO he couldn't but he didn't even TRY. Didn't you find that odd when you read it? I never bothered trying to get HF lynched either...tbh i didnt do much of anything other than sheep. GT had to fend off a lynch. Short answer is No, not that odd to me. | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:11 DarthPunk wrote: I don't know what the fuck holy flare is saying here. HF has been spewing bs all night as best i can tell. I've been generally feeling good about GT but I havent been paying very close attention since around when I decided to vote Vivax. | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:14 Holyflare wrote: Dp how about you do a full read of the thread instead of doing these stints of catch up where you say things that people have already said but makes it look like you are contributing how come you bitch at DP about it but not Palmar? | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: ..i forgot also Ange is allowed to do this. i thought you specifically asked her to do that though...thats different. and what about palmar too? | ||
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On March 21 2014 11:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you shoot DarthPunk i am going to steal your candy and have Koshi throw it in trash. this is MS Paint mafia. | ||
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ditto. I think i vigged crossfire and then djo went crazy into setup speculation as the game went on. | ||
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On March 21 2014 12:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am starting to conclude that Palmar is town. he'll be ecstatic. | ||
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On March 21 2014 15:06 DarthPunk wrote: You know what;s funny actually. Purpletrator was hopeless' smurf in that game. HAHA. Still don't think he is scum though. If holyflare is scum he is def not scum. well this is awkward...i never actually revealed that to anyone except you. Hell Sentinel may not have "known" though he may have had GM or someone check me. owelp. Rayn I plomise I'm not scum. | ||
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On March 21 2014 23:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Djodref are you seriously saying this game is almost 140 pages and you can't point out any posts regarding your reads? maybe he needs a 4th read through. | ||
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On March 21 2014 23:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless please do something productive. Give me something that has not been said which helps. plox. On March 21 2014 05:36 Hopeless1der wrote: nah HF is next | ||
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On March 21 2014 23:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: town!Hopeless makes posts that have intentions behind them and i can see what they are. Also asks a lot of questions from a lot of players. mafia!Hopeless does not, i don't know what Hopeless is doing in this game. The only question he asks is "why am i scum?" which is what many mafia do, like Stutters. On March 21 2014 06:45 Hopeless1der wrote: hey plammar, would you really have tried to get djo lynched because he said he re-read the thread? AHA! | ||
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On March 22 2014 00:15 thrawn2112 wrote: koshi re hopeless: my reasons for changing that read at that time was that I liked the way hopeless carried himself whenever he returened to the thread (after my q/a session with him) and he did ok under pressure as for my current town read on hopeless.. a lot of what palmar just said about hopeless is why I'm townreading him. he's just... kinda harmless so far? not only harmless, but he DID sheep the right wagon. I think I explained earlier that I think there is a difference between town sheeping and scum sheeping, scum selectively sheep according to their mafia agenda, while town will often sheep quite willy nilly, which is closer to how hopeless has been sheeping. there doesn't seem to be any malicious agenda behind it. it's simply sheeping for the sake of sheeping, which is actually a pretty good and townie strategy depending on what type of player you are. rayn and other people are talking about how helpful and enlightening hopeless can be as town and I disagree with that. I'm not always useless...just usually | ||
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On March 22 2014 00:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless now is your time to prove you are town. Read the cases and tell me why i think Giggletummy is mafia! how can i sheep you if you dont tell me why? | ||
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On March 22 2014 00:54 thrawn2112 wrote: the d2 lynch feels so far away 12 hour days/6 hour nights sound good? | ||
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(2) This is associative, and only worthwhile if Vivax flips mafia Again associative, but HF also just slipped during this Vivax stuff. Not "no why does this mean anything", but a really specific post he made. On March 21 2014 01:34 Giggletummy wrote: Actually, screw the associative stuff with HF. Cuz he is actually mafia. If vivax is town, it's still all about timing and reactions. Something big happens in thread, and HF is the guy who responds incorrectly, not because he disagrees with people and doesn't see why the lying = scummy here, but because of the specific points he's bringing up that aren't applicable or are just poorly reasoned. As scumHF townVivax, scumHF could still be surprised that all of a sudden thread is jumping on vivax, while HF knows vivax is town. So he does one of those scummy little half-defenses, because he's caught off guard and knows the guy is town. i dunno rayn... | ||
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On March 22 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Gigglytummy is not giggles. giygas is giggles. You can't call another player by same nickname. what if someone called Koshi the town hero instead of rayn? Or called Hopeless the emperor instead of Palmar? Or said thrawn makes porkchops? That's really out of line Koshi. I'm willing to bet that thrawn at one point or another in his life has made porkchops. | ||
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On March 22 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote: So why did you defend him if it was useless? i dont mind that you find me scummy, but finding holy town is just beyond words rayn. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:23 VisceraEyes wrote: In spite of me stating quite clearly that I'm not interested in discussing it rayn - you found it important enough to question me about it IN SPITE of me not wanting to spend any more time on it. Maybe "convinced" isn't the word, but he's wasting a lot of time and he's now included you in it. and in the meantime, holy is claiming scum left right and center and rayn has also found GT scum. Time well wasted. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: How about you qualify these statements because at the moment we all think you are scum and you are doing nothing to prove otherwise A) you've done similar to me. B) There's not a chance in hell that I (read: me) will convince people that you are scum over rayn's case on GT. Now, if koshi/DP/Palmar decided that you were worth looking at, well then we'll see tomorrow. C) "we all?" Okay buddy. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote: How about you qualify these statements because ......you are doing nothing to prove otherwise | ||
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you were saying how usually VE would be scum, but VE is a porkchop eating nubcake who's day1 play has fallen off a cliff of questionable activity. Iuno...the amount of time he spends bitching about it bothers me but otherwise the paranoia makes sense from VE. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:49 Holyflare wrote: Like if he is town then me doing the same as him must mean I'm his alignment. That's not the case though because apparently I'm scum! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/AlxBGV7.png) | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:53 Palmar wrote: on phone so cba checking but if we're talking about the same post i think i specifically said it wasn't alignments indicative you did, but you said how in the past you would have definitely called VE scum but that his recent play sucked and thats the only reason its null. | ||
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On March 22 2014 02:49 thrawn2112 wrote: Hopeless do you sincerely think HF is mafia? Can you give me your bestest reason? sorry missed it.. Yeah, I do, the bestest is how he says he's completely off the wall. - didnt read about people's posts on vivax - called vivax scum - defended vivax - tunnels DP into oblivion - p.s. hopeless totes scum i proved it 5 times go read my filter - Guys go check out oats filter --> I meant thrawns filter, are you dumb? THAT WAS SARCASM WTF No I was totes serious. Sarcasm again Gawd you guys are bad. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:01 thrawn2112 wrote: that's not a reason, just a list of stuff they're examples of HF not properly following through on stuff, it doesnt feel sincere, he's "off the wall" Off the wall is my reason. Also ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/nL54NBx.png) | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:12 Palmar wrote: If I had said things that can be proven false I'd probably not want to talk about them so I'm with VE here would you agree that VE is prone to exaggeration and paranoia as a player | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:13 Holyflare wrote: I've explained my reaction. So many times. Rayn says someone is lying. I have precedent that says lying isn't necessarily scummy because of titanic 2 where it happened in exactly the same way (someone with lack of time lied about page numbers) rayn doesn't explain anymore than that. I ask why he's so adamant a guy is scum just because of that lie when others have flat out lied and he calls them town. I pose a situation where the filter thing could come from scum. People say the pahe number tjing is legit but still don't explain why. Rayn breaks it down all nice and simplified. I see it's obvious. I vote obvious scum. Pretty simple it was never because of "lying about page numbers". it was lying about having seen content and having the chance to form reads based on things before or after a listed page number. And you knew this because you cited "oh he checked filters" (or was that oats, i thought both). | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:18 Holyflare wrote: I said that's the reason he could be scummy. So.. I was right -.- everyone else said it was a lie about page numbers and i am the one that gave the reason ehy the page numver thing could come from scum, it wasn't about content until rayn explained it properly with a link that i could check from phone i maintain that it was never simply that he lied about page numbers. Also you scum, captain sarcasm. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:23 Giggletummy wrote: it's not for quota; it's for amusement. That's too many letters to paint. THIS IS MS PAINT MAFIA DAMNIT. NON PAINT SHOULD BE MODKILLABLE WARBLEBLARGH | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh by the way guys, I totally dunked HF's case on DP. I think it's funny how he's like 100% convinced that DP is scum but does NOT argue with me about his DP case and is NOT trying to convince anyone of DP's guilt right now - instead getting in shitflinging fights with myself/Hopeless. HF probably scum now guys. You're welcome. get in line. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:29 Koshi wrote: Hmmm. Everybody thinks other stuff than me. Xcept for Holyflare. Crazy. are you calling me scum, towniest town who towned? | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:31 Giggletummy wrote: Also HF, here's a real question for you that goes somewhere. You seem to think I'm scum. And DP. And maybe poofter, maybe djo, maybe hopeless, maybe other people? If I'm scum and vivax is scum, or if I'm scum and hopeless is scum, or pretty much if I'm scum and any other people are scum, then what is my scum team doing on D1? Not in the sense that "if these people are scum, was the scum team just ... doing nothing?" But in the sense that, if I'm scum and hopeless is scum, why isn't he voting you and trying to push you early? I'm not the only person who thinks you're mafia, and I'm not the only person who thinks you're "not town." If i have scumbuddies, doesn't someone jump aboard the Flare train? Either initially, when people thought you might be scummy and wanted to see my case, or later, when I finally post, or later later when scumGiggle (in this scenario) is getting lynched, or later later later when scumGiggle was going to get lynched but now scumVivax is? Based on the number of people suspicious of you, a mafia team could push votes on you and probably secure a lynch. Nobody did. There's a bunch of "Flare mafia" or "Flare suspicious" out there, and very little traction, right now, towards a definite lynch. (Question for non-Flares, do you guys see this?). If you're attacking mafia DP and mafiaGiggle, and there's clear sentiment to slide things towards you instead of the scum team, then why don't they? Even if you think I'm mafia, this would eliminate certain other players (likely), because they would have been pushing you with me and unloading real pressure. Instead, you pick up a whopping one vote during the day. Here are my thoughts: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/BABzZBt.png) | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:35 Holyflare wrote: What alignment am i? huehuehue | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:50 Koshi wrote: Or he is really really really on the money. Like shadowed game. you mean the game where scum-coag refused to post his seal? I remember that game. You were even townier than you are in this one. | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: HF/DP can't get shot because if they are bad for mafia bcz noone believes them and a tunnelfest is 100%! I am not gonna get shot bcz noone can claim medic after that. Plammer most likely. RIP Plammer. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/uonyIlV.png) | ||
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On March 22 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: rayn cries on Plammer grave. Koshi tries not to cry. HF and DP fight. Hopeless looks from distance. Oats sleeps. VE grills porkchops. Mafia eats them and has good time. Don't know if VE has a red BBQ hat or not. Slamfish dives in the waters. *blup* someone draw a picture. rayn is in sauna now brb. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ozEBCaY.png) On March 22 2014 03:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: make sure Koshi is dragon! .....im not that good. | ||
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On March 22 2014 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: who is guy with one leg? sleepy oats. dunno why 1 leg, i'm bad | ||
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On March 22 2014 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so whre is the mafia who is eating porkchops? i mean i can draw generic red people but that doesnt prove anything. One of them is fighting in the foreground. He lost his hat for his costume. | ||
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On March 19 2014 05:54 Koshi wrote: ____________________Towniest town that towned in town who all scum fear filter starts here_____________________ mmhmm | ||
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On March 22 2014 04:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hopeless: Do you think we should lynch Djo or GT on D2? What happens if we lynch GT and he flips town/mafia? What happens if we lynchd Djo and he flips town/mafia? If I had to pick it'd be GT based on Vivax's flip. I have not really considered what happens beyond that because I'd rather flip HF before either of them. | ||
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I can believe that GT is scum based on your case. I can also just as easily say he's town and his actions make sense. His flip means i need to look more closely at VE and possibly reconsider HF depending on town/scum | ||
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On March 22 2014 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you need to consider VE? What changes? if GT flips town i need to consider VE a lot more than if he flips scum. | ||
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because i have VE as more town than scum and GT flippung town means he actually believes his reads instead of making things up, thus I should take his "opinion" (as opposed to lies) into consideration. | ||
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On March 22 2014 04:56 thrawn2112 wrote: these are my reads ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/HsBVNkg.png) can we get a brief synopsis? You know, in words. | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:11 thrawn2112 wrote: asshoel strategy is to post completely in line with your unreadable meta and then compeltely dissappear knowing that town will only lynch you out of desperation do you think he knew rayn was lying to him about votecounts and deadlines? | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Is the deadline in 15imn? I need to do something. about that, yeah | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: If you are a cigi and shoot HF or DP you are bad as fuck. pretty sure they should shoot palmar | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Go fuck yourself Koshi plz. ey dats your partner. you gotta be supportive an shit yo | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who was on Djo instead of GT talk. now. plz. thats u thrawn oats koshi. mostly koshi i guess | ||
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On March 22 2014 05:53 raynpelikoneet wrote: was i not on GT? Day 1 End of Day Vote Count DarthPunk (0): Coagulation (0): Holyflare (0): Tehpoofter (1): Hopeless1der (0): djodref (1): Giggletummy (2): Vivax (9): raynpelikoneet, DarthPunk, Oatsmaster, Palmar, Hoplesss1der, Giggletummy, Not Voting: Alakaslam I'm not a mind reader rayn, this is what i had to work with. | ||
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On March 22 2014 22:42 Koshi wrote: I am awake. I have concluded that I was shot because WIFOM 1) scum wifom: my reads are bad. 2) my wifom: baiting shot in n1. We should let Alakaslam claim a role. On March 20 2014 11:17 Alakaslam wrote: Well forget them. They want to vote a lurker, they are probably the scum. Whoever was pushing me hardest or first, in order of what those who have been present determine scummier. I almost didn't join this you fools. I am VT. Anyway here is this for your bs you can sort it out. Fools don't want to read up on my early posts and even an /out because I was almost fired and they can eat it I say. okay now what? | ||
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probably not. DP's actions make no sense as scum concerning his swaps from scum to scum | ||
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On March 22 2014 23:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Host speculation time hopeless? i could just as easily sheep rayn here, i'm doing what seems reasonable to me. | ||
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On March 23 2014 00:05 Oatsmaster wrote: Which is what exactly? wondering who the hell the scumteam is if this setup was balanced around the players as well as the roles. Vivax & GT don't scream power-scum to me. VE has somewhat of a reputation and could fit. rayn claims vig on godfather - confirmed town, there is literally no explanation unless slam comes in and CHUPAZI'S all over us. Palmar is..you know, playing the game instead of doing nothing. Which is apparently his scumtell because his scum game is supposed to suck something horrible. Thrawn? way too active. DP too, in addition to bussing when it made no sense. That leaves me with djo, poof and oats to consider and at this point we could just lynch down the list, but from the point of view that the game might be balanced, that doesn't make sense to me. Thus I am confused. Unless its VE + 1 of those 3. | ||
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On March 23 2014 00:30 Palmar wrote: or like, you should have a town read on me for completely different reasons that activity. you're the towniest town that ever towned in town? | ||
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On March 23 2014 00:34 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol is hopeless scum? That post so bad. Never mentions slam. Doesnt have a proper scumread on a s trong scum player which shows he disnt even think about this theory at all and just posted rubbish. we've established that slam is town already oats. That post was to explain why I'm 'wasting' time on host speculation. | ||
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On March 23 2014 01:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: "I am a vig and i shot Holyflare". I mean, who can say that as mafia? You and DarthPunk. So are you mafia? yes rayn, im mafia. well done. /sarcasm Holyflare would be so proud. | ||
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On March 23 2014 09:38 DarthPunk wrote: That still doesn't say: DP IS MAFIA LYNCH DP SLAM. which is what slam implied correct? no idea, i didnt see it. | ||
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On March 23 2014 12:17 DarthPunk wrote: Yeah I understand that but I know he is busy IRL. the point is he came back to complain about how he's being called scum but does nothing to alleviate the reasons he's being called scum. wat? | ||
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On March 23 2014 12:22 DarthPunk wrote: I dunno man. I just don't think he is scum. I read his filter and still don't think he is scum. He is just being oats. Like I could be wrong, but I don't think I am. yeah he's not first in line for me to lynch, but no one looks that scummy atm. VE looks worst imo, but slam is a worthwhile lynch if we have a couple to burn. | ||
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On March 23 2014 12:38 Tehpoofter wrote: @hopeless if you had a top 3 lynches and you go to choose what would the order be and whom? VE, Oats, then I'd literally flip a coin between you and djo. | ||
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On March 23 2014 12:45 DarthPunk wrote: I don't care. We literally killed 2 scum in 1 day. This is THE perfect situation to lynch slam. basically this | ||
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On March 23 2014 13:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: So where did the Sentinel autoteambalance go? You just suddenly dropped it? did DP do that too? i thought that was just me. | ||
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On March 23 2014 13:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: hmm actually i couldn't find it. Maybe i am misremembering something. Out of curiosity how do you know Sentinel balances teams? I thought someone said so but I can't be assed to find it. Not important anyways. | ||
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On March 23 2014 23:14 raynpelikoneet wrote: So Hopeless what in Oats' answers and posts are bad now? A day ago VE was your preferred lynch, why Oats now? he knows he's being threatened with lynch and thrawn has to ask him 5 times to get 1 read, which is basically a chain of quotes and "no u" as his justification. | ||
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On March 23 2014 23:16 DarthPunk wrote: This is so dumb. 2 people are up for lynch. One fights and argues with his life. The other pretends to not read the thread. So we lynch the first guy. Smart. 3* | ||
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On March 23 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: Isn't "no u" typical for Oats' town play? I mean if we just lynched the "worth player" or "most unhelpful player" i would not be lynching Oats. How easy is it for scum oats to do the same thing? He's withholding reads and now says he's gone until lynch. There is no salvaging his play this game. Slam is right in line with that, and if you think giving Oats another day to try to explain himself is a good idea, say the word. | ||
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thats not what I was answering there. But to answer your question, if you are scum then he is likely not scum, | ||
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On March 24 2014 08:44 VisceraEyes wrote: DP can you walk me through the logic of "why would I shoot Holyflare in the night" for me? I think you've said it a couple of times and I can't think of a reason why you /wouldn't/ shoot him at night. so that they could spam the thread down with flaming and keep us from doing anything at all. | ||
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On March 24 2014 09:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Well that's kinda my issue - there would be no further disruption between you and DP because as scum if you keep screaming at "confirmed town HF" then it's not activity that you can use to not get you lynch, it's activity that makes you look suspicious. So if you're scum and you believed that HF was vig then shooting him is vastly a better option than leaving him alive. no one in their right mind believed that HF was vig, least of all DP and rayn (obviously rayn) | ||
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On March 25 2014 05:50 Koshi wrote: wow scummers want to find cop/doc it seems. I actually thought thrawn might have been scum till DP pointed out the filter thing. Or rayns conspiracy theory is true huehue. | ||
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On March 25 2014 06:20 Koshi wrote: It's going to be Holyflare and Alakaslam. No, you had it right the first time koshi.. + Show Spoiler + I am Monet (alignment cop). I checked Holyflare N1 and Alakaslam N2. Both returned town. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/zTTQlo6.png) + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/lDSCKWn.png) | ||
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and like hell there's a doc rayn, you should have figured that out. | ||
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On March 25 2014 06:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: no it's 7-2 oh yeah slam derp On March 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: First Titanic mafia had doctor too and the same setup. well i'll shut my pretty mouth then. | ||
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On March 25 2014 06:52 VisceraEyes wrote: And hopeless why in BALLS have you never checked me?! What the eff? are you kidding me? look at my checks and tell me they're bad. | ||
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On March 25 2014 06:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: First Titanic mafia had doctor too and the same setup. who was vig in titanic 1? | ||
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On March 25 2014 07:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Case kthanksbye. You can't just say you want to lynch someone without a case. It's time to start playig VE if you are town. Well i think Holyflare check was... not so good. but that's just me, for " considering everyone and their reads in the game" it was not a bad check. from the point of view that HF was being a sillypants and shitting up the thread with DP it made sense. I'd have checked DP tonight if not for slam. | ||
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On March 25 2014 07:54 Palmar wrote: hell he can even guarantee one more cop check, thus make the game end faster. btw short days please. claiming accomplishes this task AND gives us another confirmed town. | ||
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![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/akUwziV.png) ##Vote: 24 hour days | ||
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##vote DarthPunk Will paint when I get home. | ||
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On March 25 2014 09:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: Oh noes, he does not have a red check on you. But no you are not. I can still be paranoid | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/I2KH3Kt.png) And then with the roleclaim that was subconscious, I didnt re-check my role pm to claim or intend to slip my role pm in there. That was an accident. | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:25 Koshi wrote: Yeah, that's not really a problem imo. rayn shouldn't have start thinking like that. I shouldn't have replied to it like that. We are basically confirming blue or scum through role pm. I could have been scum powerrole but not VT. that would have made you hitler...or you know, veteran | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:22 Djodref wrote: Anyway, DP claiming cop was weird for other reasons. I don't understand how you justify to be begging in the thread to be checked by the cop and then claim to be the cop yourself. I thought that rayn was referencing to this honestly when I saw the post "do you see what I'm seeing?". I have to agree with DP that it's unfair though, and also town being in a position where just playing "follow the cop" is possible is a little lame imho. Even if given the possibility I would 100% do it ^^ begging for cop claims as cop isnt that farfetched. It keeps suspicion on you and scum bullets off you which is kind of what you want as blue. | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:30 Djodref wrote: I don't know, I think the best you can do to get scum bullets off your back is just not taking part of all the blue wifom talk at night. If you check the scum qt, you are never been mentioned as a potential cop or medic. Your attitude is simply the best to have I guess i was hoping to leverage my scumminess into developing a redcheck, which is probably why I was so set on checking holyflare, because he was one of the only people to call me scum. | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:36 Djodref wrote: Did you have any other checks in mind for N2 ? Or were you set to check Slam ? I was going to check DP if not for rayn calling to get a check on slam. | ||
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On March 25 2014 22:54 Holyflare wrote: so you play scummy and then assume the people calling you scum are mafia...? x_x? it only works if I almost get lynched | ||
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On March 25 2014 23:06 marvellosity wrote: it doesn't work at all. thats because no one tries to lynch you, you wouldn't know marv. | ||
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On March 25 2014 23:08 marvellosity wrote: no, it's nothing to do with me, it's just a dumb way to even think about playing even hypothetically. okay | ||
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On March 25 2014 23:36 Holyflare wrote: but you were playing scummy and then nobody was calling you scum, that is normally a tell that you would be scum :o that's when i claim cop and survive until lylo. | ||
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On March 20 2014 23:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i59.tinypic.com/23kwugm.png) best case ever. | ||
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Subject: Titanic Role Date: 3/18/14 16:35 You are: Monet (Alignment Cop) | ||
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On March 26 2014 11:37 Artanis[Xp] wrote: I strongly agree with this. That, or they need to inform scum of it. Not that I ever have...i dont think...but if i was to fakeclaim as scum i'd make sure I HAD a fake claim beforehand. | ||
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