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On March 19 2014 18:48 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 18:35 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 18:27 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote: There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off. I know what you mean but I sorta feel the same way about DP Thrawn NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!  yeah i'm sorry lol. what I said there is mostly related to why I asked holyflare to stop talking about you. I think that if he's town, the way he's going about attacking you (being a giant douche) is making it difficult for me to get a good read on either of you
Don't worry I understand completely as it is making it hard for me to play the game. Also incredibly tiring.
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On March 19 2014 19:03 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 18:57 Oatsmaster wrote:On March 19 2014 18:55 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 18:50 Oatsmaster wrote: vote on thrawn. proper vote when i get home.
Can you explain what exactly feels off about HF or DP thrawn? when I read HF's posts I think "does this guy really belive what he's saying" (in regards to stuff he's said about dp) some of DP's posts feel like he's not trying hard enough, like he's giving himself outs for lame reasons so that he doesn't have to take firm stances (mostly regarding HF) 1-2 examples? dp: Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 07:00 DarthPunk wrote: You realise that policy thing was like over a year ago HF? I said I was going to policy vote coag before the game started and I did.
Further I don't think it is a shit policy. I literally would prefer the game to not have a 10 plus member Hydra in it.
I would think you were scum but you, you know, did the same thing last game as town so yeah. bolded "i have this scum read on you that i'm going to lazily ignore because of 1 previous game" Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 18:37 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 18:22 Palmar wrote: There's something about HF. He for the most part looks like town but every once in a while he posts something that's sorta off. I can't really comment on Holyflare anymore. He is so deeply tunnelled and pissed me off so epicly that I can't make unbiased judgements of his alignment. I would really like to know what dp thinks about HF but apparently he is unable to explain what he thinks. It's pretty furstrating because while I hate the cop-out, I completely understand the reasoing behind it. hf: pretty much any of his posts that are directed at DP. they've got too much fluff in them that's cmpletely devoted to ad hom or similar malicious rhetoric that it makes it really hard for me to figure out if HF is being genuine
Thrawn I'll tell you what I think of HF, He is a massive douche bag and is making me regret joining this game. I WOULD love to call him scum for it but he JUST did the EXACT same thing to me in our previous game to the point that I rage quit the thread. So he is probably town.
The thing is that he has done this when I am scum and now that I am town he is also doing it., so I am really fucking frustrated that Holyflare decides to be a massive prick and tunnel me from the first hour of the game onwards.
Like in last game he LITERALLY did the exact same thing. Made a 'joke' case that was trash that all of a sudden turned into a 'real' case because of nothing at all.
So yeah. I am really pissed off and don't want to deal with him and the sad thing is this is probably his town play so I can't even lynch him for it and have to put up with this bullshit until I die. Effectively ruining any chance I had at having fun in this game.
I want to know what VE is doing considering he was supposed to be catching up with the thread.
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On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote: aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum?
Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd.
Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago.
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On March 19 2014 19:22 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:20 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:15 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 19:10 thrawn2112 wrote: it's nothing about your content, it's about my expectations of your play compared to my expectations of tehpoofter's play
and no, i have never said you aren't town, i've never said anything about what I think about your alignment. tbh i prefer to keep it that way. What expectations have I failed to live up to? You can't just claim shit like this without explaining what you mean. Sure I understand you don't expect poofter to be some amazing mass-posting supertownie, but I don't see how even if you give him a "noob" status he has fully lived up to expectations, so my only reasonable conclusion is that I have somehow not lived up to your expectations of me. So, what are those expectations? my expectations of you as town is that as some point you will do something that makes me think "wow palmar such town i will never doubt this read" like when you started talking to yourself in foundation. I sorta got that feeling from the way you talked about how coag should be modkilled because it felt similar to the frustration you felt in foundation over how pushing a boone (the claimed doc) lynch would be impossible, therefore you must just assume she's town and not care about the game if she was mafia. So yes i do think you are town but not so much that I would care to write this many words about it if you weren't being so annoying about it. My bad, I forgot to talk to myself.
LOL. this made me laugh. Townie points.
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On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote: aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum? Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd. Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago. hmm?
what? hmm>
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On March 19 2014 19:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:32 Djodref wrote:On March 19 2014 19:29 Koshi wrote: HF DP Vivax GiggleTummy Alakaslam Djodreff ↑ People who are scummy. How is Alakaslam scummy ? And what about me also by the way ? How about you comment on something instead of just asking questions. You can ask questions when your filter is 50+ posts. Until then, go do something useful.
Asking questions is useful though. I agree that he should be commenting more. But asking questions is also fine.
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On March 19 2014 19:59 thrawn2112 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote: aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum? Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd. Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago. hmm? what? hmm> i dont remember calling vivax mafia
Maybe it was djo then.
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On March 19 2014 20:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 20:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:59 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote: aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum? Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd. Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago. hmm? what? hmm> i dont remember calling vivax mafia Maybe it was djo then. It was me.
What in particular made you think he was scummy? to me he seemed to say somewhat reasonable things.
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On March 19 2014 20:23 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 20:19 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 20:11 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2014 20:09 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:59 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:54 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:51 thrawn2112 wrote:On March 19 2014 19:50 DarthPunk wrote:On March 19 2014 19:16 Oatsmaster wrote: aw DP.
Talk to me. Do you think Djodref or Vivax is scum? Why are one of them scum? I'm not sure on either to be honest. Vivax looked ok so thrawn calling him scum is odd. Djo is ? to be determined. If he does scum hunting he is town based off mario mini but that was a long time ago. hmm? what? hmm> i dont remember calling vivax mafia Maybe it was djo then. It was me. What in particular made you think he was scummy? to me he seemed to say somewhat reasonable things. You are saying Vivax is incapable to say somewhat reasonable things as mafia? Or doesn't do it? What is your stance on Vivax?
not sure yet. He hasn;t posted enough to be read IMO which is why I find it odd that you think he is scum.
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OK before I go.
I want to lynch:
Tehpoofter: Scummy as fuck opening that he both does and does not back down from. He doesn't really answer any of the question asked of him and pretty much ignores them even though he was around and responding to some of it.
GT: Said he was going to make a case and then didn't after dropping an unexplained vote on holyflare. Scummy for obvious reasons.
VE: Said he was catching up and then did not post anything else.
That is in order of lynch desire.
Night folks.
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On March 19 2014 20:34 Koshi wrote: Can somebody explain to me what he thinks about Hopeless and HF and why it correlates to the fact they made the game serious.
Also. Wtf was his drawing all about?
What I got out of it was he thought both hopeless and Holy were scummy basically. Drawing is us shitting up the thread?
Dunno. Too tired.
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On March 19 2014 20:52 Koshi wrote: He calls people out for calling Vivax mafia. He thinks Vivax said pretty reasonable things. He can't explain what Vivax said.
-ok!-
I literally just did.
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On March 19 2014 22:47 Djodref wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 22:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: DarthPunk is Djodref this bad or is he mafia? And why did you ignore Coag and VE drawn seals ?
Morning everyone.
@Rayn. He is, I don't want to say bad, but very catchable as scum. Bear in mind I haven't played with him since 2012 though.
@Djo. The seal is only the seal when it is the same as the other ones that he has posted in his town games. Otherwise he could rationalise lying about it by saying ''oh it wasn't the seal I use when I'm actually town" or some other nonsense.
As for VE posting the seal. I don't think that means anything because it is not an established part of his meta.
anyway. catching up now.
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On March 20 2014 00:03 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 23:56 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2014 23:55 Palmar wrote:On March 19 2014 23:51 Holyflare wrote:On March 19 2014 23:42 Palmar wrote: If you could just go ahead and confirm your alignment HF that would clear up this game a whole lot. you should be able to tell this is completely different from survivor, i'm more "talky" I know, and I've said it is. It's like contemplating hugging someone who has recovered from black death and then he coughs once. A cough doesn't say much but maaaaannn why can't he just be completely healthy. well what's holding you back? if it's all the snarky comments at dp and the tunnel it's because i think dp is scum and it's also fun to troll dp so i intertwined both Said it earlier, your initial stance on hopeless was strange. You're tunneling the guy who has like 50 pages of filter on day 1, and you had some really weird point about video mafia player playing a certain way. You also kept calling me out for that thing based on me agreeing with you. Idk I'm really just contemplating taking a flyer on rayn's townread on you for now. well it was straightforward for hopeless: I made a joke post against dp and then another one about the coag hydra and him being scum because of it but used "definitive language", hopeless jumped on it and called me scum because I did stuff like this in culture mini mafia, he referenced the term "scooby doo" which I used in really small mafia where I did the same thing but was town. It looked like he was cherry picking meta to paint me in a scummy light for people that did not know about those games and was very scummy until he explained his logic, he still hasn't backed off of me and is still defending stuff about that which happened in the first like 2 hours of the game instead of commenting about anything else in the game dp's post count is irrelevant, it was his posting style that led me onto him but i'm backing off of him for a bit because people don't like me talking about it
I think your narrative is a load of shit Holyflare. At first you were adamant only the first 'case' against me was a joke.
Now you are saying both cases against me were jokes. But that is a fucking lie.
On March 19 2014 06:48 Holyflare wrote:DP is legitimately scum.
On March 19 2014 06:55 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 06:50 DarthPunk wrote:Almost Forgot! On March 15 2014 10:04 DarthPunk wrote: Before I get my role PM
If I am vig I will Vig Coag
If I am town I will try to lynch Coag
If I am scum I will shoot Coag
If I am scum I will try and lynch Coag ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GpuKR9R.jpg) and here is the proof: Show nested quote +On March 14 2014 09:37 DarthPunk wrote: /out because of hydra's. They are OP as town and Crap as scum and honestly I don't see the point unless it is like a themed hydra game.
Show nested quote +On March 19 2014 06:30 DarthPunk wrote: I hope you realise that coag is an OMGUS hydra so don't try and meta him PPL. Insta votes the coag hydra even though he has categorically stated that they are op as town and crap at scum, follows through with a shit policy when even in previous games he states: Show nested quote +On December 15 2012 08:48 DarthPunk wrote: sup kids. I hate policy talk. That is my policy. I am vanilla town. (witchcraft as town) and doesn't try and find the alignment of the hydra! Has 1 page of filter already and it says nothing compared to most of the start to his games! gg 1 scum down
And you haven't stopped tunnelling me since. Now after that you start going on about me being overdefensive or whatever and not playing like the ONE! other town game you have played in. BUt in that game I was not full tunnelled from the beginning of the game onwards.
The second case which you say was a joke was preceded with 'dp is legitimately scum' So I call massive bullshit on you holy flare.
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OK I am wading through Piles and Piles of meta bullshit whilst catching up with the thread. I am going to ignore meta based cases from this point forward. If you can't explain why someone is mafia based on their actions in this thread you should not be trying to lynch that person as far as I am concerned.
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Palmar super town for this posts and the other posts like it.
On March 20 2014 03:21 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 02:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 20 2014 02:45 Palmar wrote:On March 20 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Palamr Giggletummy not posting a case right after promising to do so is not alignment indicative. There is no reason for mafia to clearly promise posting a case and then just not do it. They know they will be called out of it so what's the point? If mafia calls someone scum they know they are expected to post reasoning for it. It's not like he did not know what to say and just left because he could not follow up his earlier post.
I think it's bad logic to think so. rayn you're a dumbass. Mafia knows they get called out on contradictions, posting reads with no reasoning, lurking and various other things THEY STILL DO. All of these things are really obvious and can be avoided very easily. Yet we still lynch scum based on them all the time. My logic is great. Unless GT flips town in which case it was you bad logic that led to the lynch and I had nothing to do with it. What i am trying to say is that the act in itself is not alignment indicative. The reasons behind them might be. You know, basic stuff. I think you're bad. I propose that everyone who wants to kill giggletummy also announces whether they're agreeing with my reasons or your reasons and then we'll see whose reasons are better. This means that everyone who votes giggle will also say which case he's sheeping. a) Palmar's glorious case about failing to deliver on content. b) rayn's case about some random offhand comment about some irrelevant dude. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/A39NgFT.png)
He is up there with Rayn and koshi for me.
VE just entered the thread at the point I'm reading and I liked his first post
On March 20 2014 03:15 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm going to give you my thoughts on his entire filter because he has one and I can.
His intro post is odd because on the one hand it gives "content" which he then needs to explain if asked, but on the other hand it's content that is easily dismissable because A) it's so early and no one has done anything and B) the reasoning he gives is so nebulous and largely non-alignment-indicative that it can pretty much just be taken for what it is - an MSPaint drawing in a forum game. But he /does/ give reasoning so meh.
The weird part is where he states explicitly that he doesn't have a read on me, that he's pinging for a reaction and that you can ignore it. Like, okay fine. So he was pinging me.
But I have to wonder. What is he expecting from me that I must be scum because I'm not already tearing it up. After all, I'm among the first people in the thread in spite of my early disappearance. I was the first to Paint a Painting. THAT early in the game, I'd say most of that stuff is more town-indicative than scum-indicative.
Anyway moving on, he then interjects into the HF-DP discussion to ask HF if DP's read makes him scum, in a way that seems like he's on the DP-town side of things. This is...fine to me. He doesn't ask in a way that makes you think HF looks worse, he feels like he thinks HF and DP are BOTH town, which I sort of agree with.
And he then pockets Vivax hard. Not sure if intentional, but Vivax has said some townie things and I agree that he looks town, so he may have just been overstating it or whatever.
Ultimately I think Banks is PROOOOBABLY town. I just agree with a couple of the things he's saying in what he's not saying, and in spite of him consistently calling me scum I think he's probably town.
I like the stuff he says about Tehpoofter it shows a clear thought process happening and VE actually thinking and using those thoughts to make judgements about peoples alignment which is better than most of the people in this game.
I disagree with him and think Poofter is scummy for his opener and for outright ignoring any followup questions but that posts speaks more to VE's alignment then poofters IMO.
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On March 20 2014 08:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 08:16 DarthPunk wrote: OK I am wading through Piles and Piles of meta bullshit whilst catching up with the thread. I am going to ignore meta based cases from this point forward. If you can't explain why someone is mafia based on their actions in this thread you should not be trying to lynch that person as far as I am concerned. I am assuming you are defending Vivax because in my opinion there is no real other case based on meta on anyone, is there?
No it's the hopeless/Cultured/scooby do bullshit that is hard to understand unless you played in those games.
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On March 20 2014 03:22 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 03:09 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2014 02:59 Vivax wrote: Off the bat I would say hopeless, thrawn and giggle are scum. Full reasoning in roughly 6-8 hours when I'm awake and energized. As a preliminary I suggest you look at the timing when thrawn started posting seriously (hint: After Coag flipped, he +1d on Coag and went back to doing nothing previous to that).
Anyone who calls me scum for inactivity gets dumb-or-scum-points. I have a life outside of mafia sometimes, will post schedule if host allows it. Mafia always got crazy much shit to do. Way more shit then town. Fact. I don't even know if I'm allowed to post schedule yet but let me break down my day for you Koshi, since I think you are town and will probably listen to reason. I got up at roughly 5 AM, started reading the thread around that time, caught the train at 7:15, got to anatomy lesson at 8:00 where the dude talked about some guy breaking his tympanum while scratching the inside of his ear with a spaghetti during his cooking by causing a vagus nerve induced coughing reflex while doing so. They had to poull that piece of spaghetti out and it was al dente. Lessons went on until 15:15, last one was social psychology, topic interpersonal attraction, you need a hip to waist ratio of 0,9 to hit on girls, lesson of the day, brunettes in night clubs are considered the most attractive but blondes are hit on most often (lolz) and a bunch of other kinda questionable experiments. Waited for book shop to open so I could borrow a biochemistry book, drove home at 7:08. I'll show you the fucking train route planner on the internet if I have to. And now I'm frankly scared to wade through all of this thread in my condition cause I'd much rather do it while I'm not sleepdrunk lest you want me to post half-assed or fallacious stuff, and I cba to not sleep when I need to to play mafia. So do me a favour and cut me some slack until I can scumhunt properly. Kthxnight.
Don't like this post. If you can write a wall on your schedule you can write a wall on your top scum read. If you know people are at you about activity you have read the thread and therefore should have a scum read.
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On March 20 2014 03:27 thrawn2112 wrote: excuse me for not wanting to wade through your early shitposting hf. lately I think you've been really townie but that stuff in the beginning reminded me of all the reasons I hate playing mafia. you were being needlessly antagonistic. i'm not dp, and despite not knowing his alignment I felt bad for him because of how you were playing the bully. you were accusing DP of doing nothng while at the same time, spending all of your energy making sure that he can't get anything accomplished thanks to your constant one liner interjections and useless insults. all of which (the insults and useless one liners) made it really hard for me to judge either of you based the arguments you were having, so I decided I wasn't going to care about your alignments until you guys started doing other things. and that is why I asked you to stfu about dp.
so yes, in the context of my job as a townie I am bad for skimming all of that, but I don't care
This post is really townie. Thrawn unlynchable for me today.
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On March 20 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare do you still think thrawn is mafia? Leaning heavily towards yes
This makes no fucking sense based on thrawns posts prior to rayns question. He is looking pretty town.
On March 20 2014 04:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2014 04:02 Holyflare wrote:On March 20 2014 03:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare do you still think thrawn is mafia? Leaning heavily towards yes Well this is where we heavily disagree. 
Yep. Rayn is good at mafia :D
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