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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
February 27 2014 05:07 GMT
#45
/in
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 08:32 GMT
#235
hi. Boonetown pretty scummy.
Grack what was your vote on Alak for?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 08:48 GMT
#238
hey Palmar, which RNG supporting dude is scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:02 GMT
#243
Whats with the _will_.
Also does it count that I saw exactly what the other dude saw? Do I get a weak town read too?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:06 GMT
#246
I got shot in my newbie game
Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit.
Wtf palmar.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:08 GMT
#248
palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:24 GMT
#250
On March 04 2014 18:08 Palmar wrote:
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On March 04 2014 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got shot in my newbie game
Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit.
Wtf palmar.


I'm just faster than you.

Who are your top 2 town reads and why. If you don't have town reads, then please just force the answers and give whatever little reasoning you can.

Slam and Robik.
Slam because he is really really active and he isnt posting unreadable stuff either.
I quite like the relaxing posts he posted with the many many faces. also this post is a fair assesment of boon's first post.
On March 04 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:
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On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.

That's not why she is scummy

"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"

That is why she is scummy.

Its mostly an activity/attitude read though.

For Robik, he is cocky and aggressive. I think that makes him town. Also that bit about boon's first post.
On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.


On March 04 2014 12:34 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 04 2014 12:31 Killing wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.


That's funny cause I'm reading you quite scummy atm tbh.

That's fine cause based off of your recent history, your reads are pretty trash.

On March 04 2014 13:43 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 04 2014 13:40 Killing wrote:
On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 13:31 Killing wrote:
Where is everyone at? Are most of the people european and asleep?:
Pshaw, it's sleepytime in the americas as well


Fuck that. We find the scum while they're sleeping lol

When is this actually going to happen from you? You're all talk and no action this game. Do something or die.


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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:26 GMT
#251
bleh yeah Im not liking austin, with the little he has posted. Its like he is joking and serious in the same post, kinda like he is trying too hard to be funny.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 09:27 GMT
#252
Like this post.
On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote:
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On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?

Also. Are you robik?

Its odd for me that Austin is talking about boone as the only substantial part of his filter but never gives a read on her.
Or anyone at all.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 15:57 GMT
#334
I have no idea what JAT is doing other than being intentionally useless.

On March 04 2014 22:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 04 2014 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 22:06 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 20:24 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Robik why are you picking on boone?
Can you give me a train of thought what she's doing in your opinion?


Do you not think his point on boone is fair?

Not necessarily. I might know what he is after but i am not sure.
On March 04 2014 21:17 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 04 2014 19:08 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yes Slam is most likely town.


Do you have any other reads?

Austin top scumread atm but i need to hear more from him.

Would you mind explaining? I get the slam read, just the austin read.

I liked Oats' point on him as i said. I don't know, why are you asking this, was i not clear enough? That's like the only thing that stood out for me besides what i have talking about / asking in thread but it's not enough for me to call austin totally scum for it, especially considering i have a history of totally misreading him in exactly 100% of our games together.

Hm, ok. I didn't remember that. Also I think it is a pretty weak reason for a scumread. Especially since what oats said is not true.

What have i missed, explain please.

Well austin mentions boone once in a question to another player because that player talked about her. How is talking about boone the only substantial thing austin says then and why should he have/post a read on her especially? Don't get me wrong I won't claim that austin contributed much but that statement from oats is just wrong.

Like this post. I have no idea what or why JAT defended austin when he has no idea whether austin is town.
Weird defense = scummy defense.

and his first post after being back feels really contributing for the sake of contributing.
On March 04 2014 21:03 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 04 2014 17:55 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 17:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey Palmar, which RNG supporting dude is scum?


I don't know yet.

Scum is going to win this game super easily anyway, everyone is so invested in trolling that I don't think it really matters what we do.

It would be splendid if you and a few other traditionally useless people tried your best to contribute this game. I literally have exactly one weak read this game. That's it. I think Robik's point is valid and means he's at least reading the thread quite intently.

There's also the thing where we need a few people to just write a fuckton more, so people get bored.

Well, considering you started the trolling this is a little hypocritical, isn't it? Anyways you are right people like grack/killing should start playing seriously now. Like you do now.
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On March 04 2014 18:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
palmar, do you know if Austin being against policy lynching and trolling is normal?

Policy lynching and random lynching are not the same. Random lynching is a good discussion starter but a terrible play itself while policy lynching has it's merits.
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On March 04 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:
On March 04 2014 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's basically why i asked about it (the VE thing, i got that). But another thing is who do you think are the people not quality posters?


I don't really see where you're going with this, but I'm sure you have a reason for asking so I'll give you an answer. Also I'd like to clarify that this quality posting thing is basically a list of people who tend to, or I know can, post very transparently on day 1, thus making them easy town reads if they are town.

Me/you/ve, possibly grack/austin.

This is the list of people I know are able to post coherently enough on day 1 to assume a leadership position and look town. That leaves a fuckton.

Now there's a lot of people I haven't played with before here (ggtemplar, boone, killing, robik) and then there's a few resident trolls (dandel, oats, slam). I just can't remember anything about justanothertownie, I'm sure I've played with him but he doesn't stick out.

If all the new people post very well (see suki/balla, I was impressed) this won't be a problem. Also slam and oats have actually been useful this game, so that might also solve what I thought might be a problem.

So my assumption is that I'm only gonna get very few people who don't troll/lurk on day 1 and post the quality/quantity required for me to make a town read on them early.

I think the only game we played together was Hogwarts. We lynched you day1 (so it is not surprising that you don't remember that much) I took over your vigilante role and shot scum.

Literally nothing about who is town or scum at all even though there has been like 8-9 pages by then.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 16:51 GMT
#343
so much noob claiming by the DM players.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 16:56 GMT
#346
Man its the same thing. Whats your read on Austin JAT?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 16:59 GMT
#349
On March 05 2014 01:58 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2014 01:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man its the same thing. Whats your read on Austin JAT?

He hasn't done enough for me to read him.

Who has done enough for you to read?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:02 GMT
#351
Its like already more than 12 hours into day 1 and you dont have ANY READS AT ALL JAT?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:09 GMT
#355
this is your only reads post JAT
On March 04 2014 22:33 justanothertownie wrote:
I will do so when I have them. For now I don't like rayns read on austin if that oats post really is all he has against him. Seems to me like rayn didn't even check if what oats said is true.
Apart from that I would like to hear an answer to the question I asked boone. She might be scummy. I don't have more than that yet.

Can you elaborate or say anything thats changed or been added to your super sparse reads?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:27 GMT
#361
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:32 GMT
#369
I want a loveboat
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:34 GMT
#371
On March 05 2014 02:32 Dandel Ion wrote:
Interesting that none of you question boone's foundation QT claim

should we?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:35 GMT
#373
At the start of each Day, 3 randomly selected players will be invited to the Foundation quicktopic mason group.

Hey yeah wtf is this shit.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:35 GMT
#374
Lol did boone just out her mafia members?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:36 GMT
#379
maybe host error
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:37 GMT
#380
On March 05 2014 02:36 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2014 02:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
Lol did boone just out her mafia members?

How come you are so sure that she is the one fakeclaiming?

because at least VE has some proof. She doesnt. Hah.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:38 GMT
#382
IN YOUR FACE JAT
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:45 GMT
#394
On March 05 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Well she might - just because people haven't confirmed it yet doesn't mean they won't. If they don't then yeah, be suspicious, but for now why can't you just take the most likely explanation, that the host created at least two foundation chats instead of one, and look for scum normally?

What do you think about GGTemplar Oats?

I think that his really weird alak vote and thereafter boone vote really needs to be explained.
Boone's stance on robik is really wishy washy and I dont like it at all. The only reason she has for thinking robik is scummy is that he chose 'easy' targets? And in the same sentence says that he is likely town? Throwing dirt for no reason.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:47 GMT
#397
On March 05 2014 02:41 Killing wrote:
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On March 05 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?


Question isn't for me but answering anyways. Everyone is playing very differently except for Robik. He usually just goes super aggro on his reads and is always too certain of them. I wouldn't say how he has acted has been alignment indicative so far as he does it as both town and mafia. I get a better read on him as the first day goes on. He shows himself at the end of day 1 imo. Templar is probably atm the scummiest of all the DM players for me. He rarely gives out his reads with providing extensive reasoning.


So what do you think of Boon calling Robik's play different from video and using that to read him when everyone is playing different anyway unless she thinks all the DM people are scum.

Who else is scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 17:54 GMT
#401
Can you explain a whole lot more about Slam? Everyone thinks he is town right now.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:02 GMT
#411
On March 05 2014 03:01 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 04 2014 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got shot in my newbie game
Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit.
Wtf palmar.

Catching up now...This guy is town for the bolded statement
No thats not a good reason, try again.

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:03 GMT
#414
Hey JAT, do you agree with what VE is saying about his QT talks with GGtemp?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:06 GMT
#419
On March 05 2014 03:05 justanothertownie wrote:
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On March 05 2014 03:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hey JAT, do you agree with what VE is saying about his QT talks with GGtemp?

I see where he is coming from - GGTemplar posted something really weird in there. I am way less sure if it really makes him mafia though.

Can you clarify as GG has a very high chance of getting lynched.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:11 GMT
#428
On March 05 2014 03:06 austinmcc wrote:
There is/are an/some extra QTs. Boone/rayn/myself are in one. Alignments unknown. I don't know why Boone revealed this, and I'm very interested to see more of her reasoning.

There MIGHT be scum and scum MIGHT manipulate me is, imo, a particularly bad reason for revealing this information 1/4way through D1. While there MIGHT be downsides, there also MIGHT be upsides to a QT that townies are in

Whats the benefit for scum revealing it to the thread when she can try and fake a town circle?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:13 GMT
#431
On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.

GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.

austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.

Robik gives an explanation.

Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).

I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question.

robik explains himself somewhat in his first posts. GGtemp just posts votes. And you have done nothing, no walls of text and 0 reads. I dont agree with this read at all.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:14 GMT
#434
Are you calling yourself town due to what palmar does?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:18 GMT
#443
On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote:
wtf this game. everyone has qt friends except me.
I can be in-thread friends

Hmm yeah ok Austin, I thought he did mention some stuff before that.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:20 GMT
#445
I reread robik's first few posts.
Its like totally different. He makes a general statement which he then backs up. GGTemp just makes really specific reads and does nothing to progress them or explain them. Different.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:21 GMT
#450
On March 05 2014 03:19 austinmcc wrote:
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On March 05 2014 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 03:17 Palmar wrote:
wtf this game. everyone has qt friends except me.
I can be in-thread friends

Hmm yeah ok Austin, I thought he did mention some stuff before that.
No. He mentions no specific REASONS, nor does he even mention specific PEOPLE.

Thus why town might be interested in having him clarify himself.

Do you understand my thoughts on Palmar now? Do you share them? Do you 80% disagree with them?

I really dont understand why you are comparing yourself to palmar and saying, hey he cant call me scum, Im doing the same stuff. Except thats not why hes calling you scum.
Its something really easy for scum to pick out to, a townie not explaining stuff looks bad.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:27 GMT
#455
On March 05 2014 03:24 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 03:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I reread robik's first few posts.
Its like totally different. He makes a general statement which he then backs up. GGTemp just makes really specific reads and does nothing to progress them or explain them. Different.
Do you think it's townie to ask people to explain themselves?

That question sounds ridiculously stupid.

Yes, Robik backs up his statement. Only after being asked. I'm asking why, if you're town and Palmar is town, and you're asking GGTemplar to explain himself because you, as townies, want him to give specific information, me wanting someone to clarify their reads and give specific information is not, at the very least, a townie thing. Even if everything else I do is scummy.

In particular, I'm asking whether you think Palmar just skates over that entirely. I had what...like 6 and a 1/2 posts. He read Robik's answer and liked it. But there's no thought put into me making the question.

That smells to me.

nah its not townie.

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:29 GMT
#460
Vote for someone boone.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:30 GMT
#461
Yeah I have no clue why boon is spending so much time defending herself over 'small' things as she said instead of
y goal is the same as yours, to find the mafia and lynch them.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:36 GMT
#464
why the second bit?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:43 GMT
#471
On March 05 2014 03:39 IAmRobik wrote:
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On March 05 2014 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
maybe boone mistook the scum QT for the foundation QT

it's possible lol

If not that, then she most likely did not out both her teammates.

Dandelion trying to push on something that's not scummy and really stupid and a mistake that no mafia would make.

WE'VE FOUND SCUM BOYS!

I did it too.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 04 2014 18:46 GMT
#475
Pressure time!.

Night boyos.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 05:52 GMT
#714
Boone, why do you think that Video meta and forum meta is the same?
Also you gave this Palmar read earlier.
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote:
Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.

Where did Palmar draw reads from the whole random lynch debacle?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 06:11 GMT
#718
On March 05 2014 14:57 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Oats did you find my post useless or hard to read or was I concisely (aside from fat pictures) answering what half the town asked of me.

Slam do you honestly still think both that Boone is mafia and that I am mafia with her, or do you just scumread me alone now? I don't even follow your vote anymore.

it was completely useless
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 06:16 GMT
#721
Why are you playing so badly as either alignment GGTemp?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 06:19 GMT
#723
why are you disregarding what people do in favor of calling them scum because fluff clearly = scum?
Even your VE read is incorrect, he brought up a great point but its fluff to you?
And your dandel read. Why is him bitchfighting with Robik and JAT scummy as opposed to what Robik is doing?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 06:20 GMT
#724
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.
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Oatsmaster
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March 05 2014 06:29 GMT
#729
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 06:32 GMT
#731
On March 05 2014 15:29 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:19 Oatsmaster wrote:
why are you disregarding what people do in favor of calling them scum because fluff clearly = scum?
Even your VE read is incorrect, he brought up a great point but its fluff to you?
And your dandel read. Why is him bitchfighting with Robik and JAT scummy as opposed to what Robik is doing?


I never said fluff=scum

But posting a lot of fluff under the guise of it being pro-town is scummy.

I don't know if you're talking about VE's accusation against me or the post from him I found suspicious.

Robik seems genuinely/stubbornly invested in figuring out the game but is oblivious to how useless his responses are to Dandel b/c he's emotionally invested, whereas Dandel seems a lot more level-headed and rational so you would think he'd be the bigger man and let it go but he eggs it on and encourages it.

You seem to think Palmar is scum because of fluff posts 1-20 and that VE is scum because of this fluff post. I was talking about the post you linked.

Why is Dandel more level headed than Robik?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 06:37 GMT
#734
On March 05 2014 15:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?


I'm discrediting your judgment of me by showing it having a poor track record.

So wrong once = wrong all the time?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 06:46 GMT
#738
Link posts for the dandel shit man, thats what I was asking.
Where has Palmar promoted his 'fluff' posts as being pro town?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 06:47 GMT
#739
On March 05 2014 15:46 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:32 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:23 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
It fucking blows my mind that people dont think about what they are doing.


end of day1 last game I played with you

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1144

vs

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=440856&currentpage=58#1147

top 2/4 on my list were scum

idgaf

and? What exactly are you justifying?


I'm discrediting your judgment of me by showing it having a poor track record.

So wrong once = wrong all the time?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman_fallacy

Thats what you said man, not me.
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Oatsmaster
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March 05 2014 06:52 GMT
#745
On March 05 2014 15:50 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
Link posts for the dandel shit man, thats what I was asking.
Where has Palmar promoted his 'fluff' posts as being pro town?


He never explicitly promoted it as fluff. It was implicit the way he was directing discussion - telling X people they need to do Y, asking people all sort of questions then he himself even admitted he wasn't really giving many reads.

But you said its scummy when people say that their fluff posts are pro town. Which you so far havent shown is true for Palmar.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 06:53 GMT
#746
On March 05 2014 15:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm not going to link the entire fight between Dandel/Robik, it's there for you to read. If you didn't get the same impression from it that I did then you're free to disagree.

ok cool you cant back up your assumption.
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March 05 2014 07:02 GMT
#749
On March 05 2014 15:56 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 15:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 15:51 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I'm not going to link the entire fight between Dandel/Robik, it's there for you to read. If you didn't get the same impression from it that I did then you're free to disagree.

ok cool you cant back up your assumption.


So you disagree and think that they both lost their temper and that Dandel wasn't jerking Robik around or that he didn't have the upper hand in that shitfest.

Yes
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 07:26 GMT
#752
Well that read felt to me like you thought of a way for dandel to look bad but then you can back it up.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 07:58 GMT
#757
Why?
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Oatsmaster
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United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 08:14 GMT
#765
I said that already Palmar.
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Oatsmaster
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March 05 2014 08:24 GMT
#771
yeah im kinda leaning that way too after GGtemps most recent post and hers.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 08:52 GMT
#787
GGtemp makes me laugh. He can stay. But please stop random voting for people you never mention before.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 10:04 GMT
#803
analyse your qt with reads on Austin and Boone pls Rayn.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 11:00 GMT
#808
there has been a distinct lack of walls of text by austin this game, I must admit.
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Oatsmaster
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United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 11:08 GMT
#810
Its bad, Shadow mini austin town so many walls.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 11:23 GMT
#814
He has done shit though in this game, its just not very good.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 12:59 GMT
#824
Whos scum from GGTemp's wagon going byebye Dandel?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 13:24 GMT
#827
Alak's recent post was one of the most readable, what are you talking about Dandel?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#842
Thats a horrible reason for someone to be town JAT
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 14:16 GMT
#851
On March 05 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I never said she was town oats - I guess you will never learn to read. This is just unsettling.

fuck man, then dont say shit you dont mean.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 14:24 GMT
#858
On March 05 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 23:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 05 2014 23:04 justanothertownie wrote:
I never said she was town oats - I guess you will never learn to read. This is just unsettling.

fuck man, then dont say shit you dont mean.

Please quote where I said she is town.

lynch too easy = someone is town. Seriously, is this hard to understand? Do you have to spell things out before I can comment on it?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 14:24 GMT
#859
Its like you stab someone and then when you get caught, say, "oh I only wanted to touch his liver".
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 14:25 GMT
#860
The implied meaning is there. If you dont want me to imply, then dont say shit that can be very easily implied to mean something that you dont actually mean.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 14:30 GMT
#862
What did you imply with that statement JAT?
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Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 14:40 GMT
#868
On March 05 2014 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 23:06 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 22:59 justanothertownie wrote:
This wagon is just rolling so easy. Everybody seems to read boone scum.


yeah maybe. tbh though most of the people on the wagon can be town. I don't think it's a scum-driven wagon, even if it might end up being wrong.

Hey oats. See, Palmar thinks boone is town! Better attack him!

hey JAT, he actually explains?!?
Now tell me again, what did you mean by that earlier statement.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 15:30 GMT
#898
boo why am I not on that list JAT?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 15:31 GMT
#899
and why isnt Palmar on that list.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 15:35 GMT
#903
why did I think Rayn asked that question.

So you think Rayn is town because he can solve the game?
WHY?/
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 15:39 GMT
#907
On March 06 2014 00:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 00:35 Oatsmaster wrote:
why did I think Rayn asked that question.

So you think Rayn is town because he can solve the game?
WHY?/

Are you really that slow? I don't want to lynch him because of that. I never said I had a townread on him.
ah ok, another case where you say what you dont mean.
I can totes solve the game. Im insulted.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 16:54 GMT
#926
Man thats like his 3rd, 4th list post. Why so many lists Killing?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#930
All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts

Yeah how in the world is this scummy rather than his playstyle?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:27 GMT
#946
I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.

Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:29 GMT
#948
yeah didnt see the medic claim, no bold/no caps/no green.
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I am town and therefor everything I say has been from a towns perspective. I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.

I find this particularly funny.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:35 GMT
#959
On March 06 2014 02:29 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.

Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.



I didn't say I'd be good at this game, and from what I can tell, i'm the exact opposite. Do you have any more insults you'd like to hurl my way before I peace out?

uhhhh why are you calling people scum for thinking you are scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:41 GMT
#969
On March 06 2014 02:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Seriously just ingore oats we all know he's an idiot already.

man not everyone in the game is an idiot dandel, have some kinda respect.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:44 GMT
#974
Nah I dont get that feeling Dandel. Where exactly is Palmar downplaying himself?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 17:58 GMT
#984
Im gonna make a case soon, but thoughts on Killing?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:10 GMT
#995
Explain pls Grack.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:24 GMT
#1007
I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 18:29 GMT
#1016
On March 06 2014 03:27 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests.

Burst of activity? I think that's quite the exaggeration.

he had 2 pages in 2-3 hours. Thats pretty bursty.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:38 GMT
#1023
yay walls of text. Why are you still wary of boon?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:46 GMT
#1034
She claimed medic
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:57 GMT
#1054
some other choice contradictions by Killing.
I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

So here he is talking about Boone.
and then here
On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:

Boonetown

I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either

A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that)

He manages to concoct a whole story about how claiming the QT made her the scummy person in the game apparently. Why didnt he do this before? dunno.
He does this in order to supplement his content and make it look like he is useful.
And his other reads.
On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:
Rayn

You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.

Alakazam

He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.

Totally wrong view of Rayn this game and misrepresenting his play super wrongly in order to twist it into something that looks bad. Same kinda thing with Alak who has actually posted some useful stuff. He is also very unsure about these reads. Wishy washy. And also scumslip.
It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 18:57 GMT
#1055
##unvote
##vote Killing
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 19:09 GMT
#1068
On March 06 2014 03:59 austinmcc wrote:
oats, what useful stuff has alak posted? Like can you grab 2-3 posts of his that were useful? I want to peer into your soul here, because I've found him to not be useless, but ... I don't think slam has particularly pushed town forward or anything.

On March 04 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2014 12:54 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
On March 04 2014 12:02 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

Do I just read every DM person scummy? Each one is reading the opposite of their town game. This is so weird. I'm usually the one who clears everyone ever and this game I just find everyone scummy. This is not a good sign.
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?


Boone's entrance was scummy because of the way she said that she respected RNGesus but wasn't willing to vote VE yet cause she wanted to play more with him and Joey was scummy cause he trolls when he's mafia.

In general, I come in and clear a bunch of people for being super town off of small things, but this game all I see are really fucking scummy players.

That's not why she is scummy

"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"

That is why she is scummy.

On March 05 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
K rayn when you are back

Why GGTEMPLAR vs BOONETOWN?

What has boonetown done that she is not scummy to you or ggtemp that he is more scummy?

I miss my custom autocorrects for ppl's names.

See there is this thing, I must not vote ggtemplar unless I am convinced he is scum

he put the flattering portrait that failed

He called me monocle scum

On March 05 2014 18:20 Alakaslam wrote:
Well here is where the hypocrisy speech of motivation comes in.

Boone, if you are town, best thing to do is either defend, or, if your position is indefensible, start forming scum reads and put them out there. Because if you are town, your flip will confirm everything you said- which has a huge impact if you had suspicions. There is even slang associated with this phenomena; "the dead hate Alakaslam" etc.


I think these are all pretty ok posts, although there is somewhat less than I expected and all focusing around boone.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 19:10 GMT
#1070
Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 19:12 GMT
#1073
On March 06 2014 04:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
Seriously JAT, why is GGTemp scum in your own words? Lynching by choosing whoever the scummy people arent voting for is a horrible way to play.

I disagree. Why are you defending him that hard? Why do you think he is town in your own words, oats?

i just said earlier. dude.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 05 2014 19:17 GMT
#1079
I also said that his reaction test felt real and it lead to reads on people which is good. Also lately he has ben trying to figure out the game.

Your turn JAT, why is ggtemp scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 05 2014 19:35 GMT
#1113
On March 06 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay now a serious question, is anyone entertaining the possibility of boone fakeclaiming here?

Not without a counterclaim.

Jat, why the fuck are you so reticent about giving reasons for ggtemp to be scum? Stop stalling and give reasons.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 10:22 GMT
#1519
I say we lynch Boone today, I dont see why she didnt get shot and instead scum shot austin, a potential mislynch.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 10:47 GMT
#1523
nah dandel isnt scum. And I dont think GGtemp is. It could be grack/killing, the VE lynch felt really bad skimming through it.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 11:10 GMT
#1525
What makes him not look like mafia?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 17:20 GMT
#1613
Yeah both of them are irritating tbh.
Killing!
Palmar, why is grack even somewhat town?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 17:50 GMT
#1630
##vote IAmRobik
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
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March 07 2014 18:02 GMT
#1635
On March 08 2014 02:57 IAmRobik wrote:
For all the people voting me:

What happens once I flip town? Cause I guaran-fuckin-tee that's what's going to happen.

game continues without the distraction of your fight with dandel.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 18:16 GMT
#1640
You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 18:20 GMT
#1643
Why are you voting dandel?
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March 07 2014 18:20 GMT
#1644
Like literally why does dandel have to die for you to lynch Joey?
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Oatsmaster
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March 07 2014 18:22 GMT
#1645
On March 08 2014 03:20 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.

Like, how can you read the beginning of the day and think "man, Rob is out for dandelion," when the first post I made was about Joey and how I think he should 100% be the lynch today.

The only reason today became about me and Dandelion is because he's a fucking punk that is going hard on me for bullshit reasons, which I've already shat all over because they were 100% inaccurate.

no, the reason today became about you and Dandel is because _you_ decided that you had to fight head on with him.
Why does it matter that he sucks at reading you?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 18:49 GMT
#1651
you clearly care quite a bit Robik.
I want to lynch you because your reaction is totally overblown today.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:06 GMT
#1654
Dandel who else is scum?
Is Palmar scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:12 GMT
#1659
yeah boone, why do you think Vig shot your target? Do you _know_ that scum shot austin?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:12 GMT
#1660
scumslip city?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:13 GMT
#1661
On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.

well yeah that kinda makes him scummier cause he wants to win more as scum than as town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:13 GMT
#1662
I would only lynch him after like 3-4 other people and possibly more though.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:14 GMT
#1663
Robik, if you stop posting, you will be lynched. Do you want to be mislynched and put town further behind? Sure seems that way.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:21 GMT
#1669
On March 08 2014 04:15 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 04:10 Dandel Ion wrote:
Why would you even protect a vig target



cause i'm an idiot? i protected someone i read as town. that's all.

Why would you noob claim again????
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:22 GMT
#1670
On March 08 2014 04:19 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 08 2014 04:10 boonetown wrote:
i'm still not sure Palmar is town, but he's being much more helpful and useful today.

well yeah that kinda makes him scummier cause he wants to win more as scum than as town.

You've never played with me...I _HATE_ playing as mafia. In fact, when I was mafia with Joey in an immortals game the other night, I played Hearthstone and didn't give a fuck and didn't say anything and didn't give any reads and ended up talking my way into getting checked on d1. It's a downfall in my game. I don't care. I love being town. I love solving the game. That's what I'm trying to do this game...I'm actively trying to solve it. That was, up until I have to defend myself against accusations from a person that has given 0 reads on anything in the game besides myself. He's done nothing but tunnel on me incorrectly, absolutely unwilling to think anything other than that I'm scum. TOO BAD. I'M FUCKING TOWN, DANDELION.

I've expressed my opinion on several occasions now. If anyone wants any clarification on anything that I've said, that's fine. A lot of people read me as town on day 1. One of whom is dead.

im not even talking about you in that quote.
What.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:27 GMT
#1672
solve the game pls robert.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 07 2014 19:39 GMT
#1674
Give some reasons for rayn and palmar being scum please.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 04:49 GMT
#1751
lol.
Grack is highly suspicious for trying to lynch Alak, a well known player who plays vastly different town and scum games. Hes town this game.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 05:49 GMT
#1757
He is possible to read.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 05:58 GMT
#1759
##vote Grack
wat
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 13:03 GMT
#1765
On March 08 2014 21:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
A couple of things. I just went through Grackaroni's filter because of the comment Oats made about him going after Slam. Oats do you know something i don't? You need to explain the comment. Also where the fuck does Grackaroni "agree with templar's case on VE" like he suggests? Explain.

Slam town means Grack should think hes town, he isnt some dm scrub so Grack trying to lynch Alak is Grack being scum because if hes town he knows slam is town and therefore wouldnt be pushing him but as scum Grack knows already.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 13:56 GMT
#1768
ohhhhh I read GGtemp as Grack. Disregard points.

I still think Grack is scum though but now its cause he pushed VE for being disinterested and then pushing a lynch on someone which is contradicatory. You cant be both man wtf.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:07 GMT
#1770
The one where VE called out GGTemp for the first post in the QT being all "I know both of you are scum dont talk to me".

Grack said that VE was disinterested(somewhat townie) and pushing an agenda(scummy) and pushed him based on the above reason. But you cant do both man.

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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:19 GMT
#1773
I really dont know what you are referring to JAT. Do you think Grack is scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:48 GMT
#1775
He called VE scum for bad reasoning and never rethought his push the whole way. That was his only specific evidence for pushing VE.
And its bad.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 14:57 GMT
#1780
OMGUS but since Grack isnt bad then hes scum.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:03 GMT
#1783
On March 08 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2014 23:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
He called VE scum for bad reasoning and never rethought his push the whole way. That was his only specific evidence for pushing VE.
And its bad.

In hindsight it was because VE flipped town. When it happened I didn't think his push was bad. If Grack is scum then that's because he didn't do shit apart from that and nothing so far on day2 as far as I am concerned.

Yeah grack has so far just popped in and out asking some questions that didnt seem to go anywhere and giving some really easy reads to give. Boone town, oats town and all that shizzle. In his town games, he is able to be a tonwn leader and all that shizzle.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:12 GMT
#1795
On March 09 2014 00:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oats do you think Grack is more likely to lead the town than for example Palmar is?
Also do you think Palmar has lead the town more than Grack has this game?

I think that both have not played the best game ever if they were town but Grack played the worse game.
Why are you being so sketchy with your questions? why not go and straight out ask me whether I think Palmar is scummy for the same thing that I called out Grack for.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:13 GMT
#1797
On March 09 2014 00:08 Grackaroni wrote:
eh I'll do what I can. Bad week plus a lack of sleep from midterms and I haven't felt like playing mafia. Definitely was not going to bother arguing with Oatmaster.

yeah that was bad.
Can you just play the game man, it would make it so much easier if we were town buddies.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:14 GMT
#1799
On March 09 2014 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 09 2014 00:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT let me ask you this;
Who would you say has put us more close to lynching mafia on D2 than Grack? Like, who has contributed more towards lynching mafia than Grack has on D2?

Everyone that posted some kind of opinion on anything. I don't even want to argue with you about if day2 has been good so far but that you are defending grack for "nobody else has been really good" is just ridiculous.

I am not defending Grack, i am trying to get a better read on you and Oats because your thought process clearly does not line up with mine and i want to know where this sudden "Grack is mafia" is coming from. Because i don't see it, Oats' reasoning for Grack being scum was bullshit in the first place and when he was called out for it he went "oh yeah you are right but Grack still scum for this other reason i didn't bring up in the first place" which is also bullshit.

bullshit and totally false are different things. Why are you comparing both reasons when 1 is just completely wrong?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:18 GMT
#1802
pushing a bad lynch does make him mafia.

I have no idea what kinda cases he makes as scum, but he is playing scummily different from his town meta.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:18 GMT
#1804
Rayn can you say why you think Grack is more likely to be town than mafia instead of repeating the same thing over and over?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:21 GMT
#1807
Yeah because i didnt read his filter at the time I made the first argument and by the time I made the second argument I had.
I dont see how it weakens the second argument to have been brought up later.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:23 GMT
#1810
On March 09 2014 00:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Rayn can you say why you think Grack is more likely to be town than mafia instead of repeating the same thing over and over?

I don't see him pushing any agenda which he usually does as mafia. He seems just disinterested for whatever reason.

Do you have any examples? Is his town play disinterested? Wasnt his push on VE pushing an agenda?
I feel like he isnt going towards anything, like he is fine with the current game state. Which is now good for scum and bad for town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:25 GMT
#1814
Who do you want to lynch today rayn?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:27 GMT
#1817
And why are you not doing anything else? Does the game end when Robik gets lynched?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:28 GMT
#1819
You think you can find scum in the 48 hours you have after robik's flip?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:29 GMT
#1820
On March 09 2014 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no counter-case so i expect people to vote for Robik unless they make a case on someone.

Thats so dumb rayn. Are you dumb rayn?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:30 GMT
#1824
So calling him scummy and a vote on him isnt a push? Ok rayn.
You dont seem interested in getting us to vote for Robik. So hypocrisy at its best.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:32 GMT
#1829
On March 09 2014 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:29 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 09 2014 00:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There is no counter-case so i expect people to vote for Robik unless they make a case on someone.

Thats so dumb rayn. Are you dumb rayn?

Tell me what i am supposed to do? Make a counter-case to a case that's on my top scumread and argue with myself that my #2 scumread is more likely to be mafia than my #1 scumread?

really Oats?

no, you are supposed to read the game and come to your own conclusions then talk with people and convince them that your choice is mafia with or without a case. A case isnt really anything but a bunch of stuff together in one post.

You seem really set on Grack town and you arent giving any reasons that me or JAT could talk with you. super closed off.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:34 GMT
#1831
yeah I think rayn is scum here actually. Instead of getting us to go onto to robik, he stonewalls us and calls the case on robik 'reasonable'? that implies that it is logically sound rather than actually being true.
And he is useless, VE got lynched and all that shizz.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:37 GMT
#1835
Why did you say this then rayn?
On March 08 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why don't you want to policy lynch the shit out of this Palmar?
You know that's not going to stop.

If you think robik is scum?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:41 GMT
#1839
are you talking about this Grack?
On March 06 2014 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests.

I dont remember your post about that reason I called bad as the reason I said I would lynch VE. I think I was thinking about the so little impact that VE had on the game.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:42 GMT
#1841
On March 09 2014 00:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:37 Oatsmaster wrote:
Why did you say this then rayn?
On March 08 2014 02:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why don't you want to policy lynch the shit out of this Palmar?
You know that's not going to stop.

If you think robik is scum?

Because that was before he made some posts that were not only "RAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGERAGE".

wtf, read the thread.

The case you are talking about above is Dandel's case right?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:45 GMT
#1846
Meh never mind.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:46 GMT
#1849
On March 09 2014 00:44 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
are you talking about this Grack?
On March 06 2014 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests.

I dont remember your post about that reason I called bad as the reason I said I would lynch VE. I think I was thinking about the so little impact that VE had on the game.

yes. When you ask me for a reason I assume that you have some reason for doing so. If you thought that reason was shit I would expect you as town to go out and say that it is shit.

I really dont remember that post.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:47 GMT
#1850
On March 09 2014 00:46 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:45 Oatsmaster wrote:
Meh never mind.

what does that mean?
I was referring to the question at the top of the page.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:58 GMT
#1861
Throughout this whole game, I havent felt like Rayn really wanted to solve the game and thats one of my biggest problems with him.
Also contradictory.
On March 05 2014 13:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2014 13:01 Alakaslam wrote:
On March 05 2014 12:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:38 boonetown wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:34 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:33 boonetown wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:32 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:28 boonetown wrote:
Boone, why is austin scum, and why is GGtemp voting badly, and has the other people you play video mafia with match their meta there so far?


Austin is leaning town more and more, which is unfortunate because I was pretty happy thinking I found a mafia in the QT. GGtemp, if you have ever seen him play, is the most paranoid town player in the history of mafia, ever. He would rather sleep every single day of the game in order to not mislynch someone. He only votes if he's mafia, or if he knows the vote won't go through, as a trolly way to make it look like he made a choice. Either templar isn't even trying, or he's mafia. That's where I'm currently at with his allignment.

Is austin leaning town because of qt or thread activity?



Both, but more so what has been recently posted in the QT. Could be a show, but seems very genuine.

Has rayn posted in there? What is your opinion on him?


Rayn has posted very little, but I really liked that he asked if we should bring the QT to the thread and let people know about it. Rayn. I think based on early gut reads and reactions Rayn is town. I had stated earlier that if there were mafia between the two I thought it was Austin, now that my read on him is changing I'm going to have to reread Rayn in the thread and see if my read on Rayn adapts as well. For now, They could both potentially be town, which would be great for the purpose of the QT.

Not true. I asked austin if he thinks using the QT is a good idea or not. Pay attention, this was not a good idea.
On March 05 2014 06:51 Grackaroni wrote:
It's kind of strange to me that Rayn wanted to policy lynch me this game when he hasn't really tried to do it in other games, but maybe he's just really sick of my play.

Other than that nothing besides the Austin attack sticks out to me.

Not true. I voted you for pure policy in SMB and i will do it every game you play like that. A question, am i supposed to read Palmar as mafia in your opinion? If not, why the fuck am i scum for it?

Didn't GGTeMpLar just call Slam town and mafia?

I think? I'm not really sure even.

Look at the vote thread rayn, does not that stuff look suspicious to you?

I don't knowwhat do you mean? Elaborate please.
Top 2 vote leaders are bad votes and i don't even know why there are votes on them.

Also:
##Vote: GGTeMpLaR

He doesnt try and convince anyone to vote for GGTemp here but just a while ago, he asked us to make a case/convince people on Grack if we wanted to move votes. Actions dont match his words.

and
On March 06 2014 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I kinda wanna lycnh VE for his bad post about boone's claim.
Also ggtemplar so vote stands.

he totally drops this read in favor of lynching GGtemp, never really talks to Grack about lynch VE, the top propnent towards his lynch. Basically it doesnt look like he wants to find scum, just push people who look bad.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 15:59 GMT
#1863
On March 09 2014 00:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 00:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 09 2014 00:44 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 09 2014 00:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
are you talking about this Grack?
On March 06 2014 03:24 Oatsmaster wrote:
I would lynch VE and I wouldnt lynch GGtemp, the burst of activity he had felt like he was trying to make up for his earlier ploys and it didnt really feel like he was making up stuff about his reaction tests.

I dont remember your post about that reason I called bad as the reason I said I would lynch VE. I think I was thinking about the so little impact that VE had on the game.

yes. When you ask me for a reason I assume that you have some reason for doing so. If you thought that reason was shit I would expect you as town to go out and say that it is shit.

I really dont remember that post.

I try to keep myself as unbiased as possible but I don't see how I can ever think of you as townie then. You ask me for reasoning to lynch VE, ignore my answer, and then come back the next day and argue that I'm scum for pushing faulty reasoning.
By ignore you mean never see then ok.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 16:02 GMT
#1865
On March 09 2014 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
trololol oats

yay i have support!
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 16:05 GMT
#1867
I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 16:15 GMT
#1876
Nightkills speculation is really only speculation and generally there are multiple reasons why someone dies and we never know what it actually is.
Who else is scum Robik?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 16:22 GMT
#1881
Palmar why you let the VE lynch happen.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 16:50 GMT
#1887
I literally mean 'look bad' there. Look bad could be lynchbait.
And it looks like GGtemp is town.
Why didnt you talk to Grack about VE?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 17:03 GMT
#1889
Because you said you also could lynch VE and Grack was the VE pusher. Wasnt there any kinda moment where you were, "so VE or GGtemp?".

You clearly dont get my lynchbait point, Im saying that you are finding shit that looks bad at first glance rather than finding shit that makes someone scum rather than bad town.
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 17:11 GMT
#1892
On March 09 2014 02:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 02:03 Oatsmaster wrote:
Because you said you also could lynch VE and Grack was the VE pusher. Wasnt there any kinda moment where you were, "so VE or GGtemp?".

You clearly dont get my lynchbait point, Im saying that you are finding shit that looks bad at first glance rather than finding shit that makes someone scum rather than bad town.

Green part: Based on one post, yes. ggtemplar made an equally bad post regarding the situation. VE gave an explanation to the post. templar didn't. templar was scummier than VE before that. wtf? No, there was no "VE or templar" moment, as i clearly said when i wrote "VOTE STANDS" in the post you quoted. I made it bold and all caps so you can't misrepresent it any more.
Red part: That's not true. Show me where i have done so, because i have not.

Well sorry for assuming "I could lynch VE" means "I dont want to lynch VE".

You just said that you lynch people that look bad, how is that not true?
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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 17:12 GMT
#1894
meh I gotta go to sleep.
1) im more confident in Joey
2) I think I can get a concrete answer on Rayn in later days while Joey has to die today for reasons.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 08 2014 17:46 GMT
#1906
On March 09 2014 02:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar why you let the VE lynch happen.


I made it happen. And because he shouldn't be an easy lynch on day 1 as town, his lack of standing up for himself in the thread or even trying to get the lynch off him made me think he could be mafia.

I think this is like the 3rd or 4th time ive seen ve mislynched day1 so its not like an uncommon thing as you seem to be saying
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
March 11 2014 23:55 GMT
#2934
Yay wheeeeee we won!!!
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