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On March 12 2014 01:58 boonetown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 23:41 IAmRobik wrote:Decided to reread Joey's filter to see if he has any interactions that may make me feel one way or another about any living players. This makes me feel good about Slam: On March 04 2014 15:02 Killing wrote:On March 04 2014 14:58 Alakaslam wrote:On March 04 2014 14:53 Killing wrote:
The only person I like right now is austin. Although it`s super easy to put in these softball questions of why do you have this read and such, I actually like him for being one of the only ones to do so. SUP SON WHAT I MESS U UP ON? The fuck did I just read This makes Templar look good: On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Robik is now my top town. He's playing his exact same town game where he makes read on what seemingly is insignificant. He likes to believe that he found some proof even though it usually means and amounts to nothing. Other than that, his reasoning on Dandel is kinda bad. He's probably just tunneling on him as I'm not sure if anything Dandel has done has been that scummy. Voting GGtemplar for obvious reasons. Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.
##vote GGtemplar The bolded portion from Joey is 100% accurate and thus he's being truthful when he says that it's indicative of Temp's town play: On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.
I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.
Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?
Here are my updated reads:
Strong Town
Rob
Leaning Town:
Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion
Neutral
Grack
Oats
VE
Leaning Maf
Alakazam
Rayn
Strong Maf
Boone
I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify
Boone's probably not mafia here. Rayn might be mafia. Maybe Grack. Maybe Dandelion. I know I'm town and I don't think he put his mafia buddy as his strongest maf. Just kidding. Rayn almost certainly town: On March 06 2014 01:36 Killing wrote:
@rayn
I don't play much forum mafia but all you do is talk shit about other players when you're pretty terrible yourself. I don't see Joey going so BM on his mafia teammate here, which would make me think Rayn is town. Making me reconsider Boone, as Joey is the type of player to sneak a mafia person in his reads and Slam is like confirmed town to me: On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:
As I said before, in video mafia, GGtemplar only goes into his crazy plans/theories when he's town. It's possible that he has done that in forum mafia but I've never seen it from him in forum mafia. Even after that post, everything I've read from him I could read in his town voice. I guess I can kind of read him differently that how I can everyone else in this game.
Rayn
You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.
Alakazam
He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.
Boonetown
I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either
A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).
The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment. This post was about JAT...i dunno....don't think Joey says this to a fellow mafia teammate: On March 07 2014 09:00 Killing wrote:
Alright man, you're my top town from now on. Welcome aboard! I'd like everyone's opinion w/r/t the Grack point here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/444554-foundation-mafia?page=81#1616I honestly don't know what to make of it. Well...that's the entirety of his filter really. I read his filter once he flipped mafia, and one of the reasons i changed my reads was based off of part of it. I didn't like how he tried really hard to leave people out of his posts, or the interactions he had with certain people (mainly Grack and Dandel) but joey is a tricky fucking player and there is almost always a motive behind everything he does. I'm just trying to figure out what it was. What was his angle, where did he try to trick us, cause either this is the worst mafia he's ever played, or he did something we can't see.
No this was him just not knowing what to do, self-admittingly even from his own point of view. There is no "joey trick" or "master plan" behind what he did.
You feel really off this game boone with the conclusions you're drawing and have been for a while.
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On March 12 2014 02:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2014 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Anyways, right now, assuming Rayn is wrong, I can't really put stock into his townreads because I know his reads are shit this game. He will get time to re-evaluate them once I flip green though so hopefully he can figure this shit out after he wastes one of the misslynches based on a "meta-read".
I know there seems to be this huge town circle from Rayn/Palmar that seems to conclude that Grack/Dandel/Palmar/Rayn/Slam are all town but I know this can't be the case because I'm fairly confident that Robik is town now so it can't be Robik/Boone, meaning someone is pretty fucking wrong.
So your scumread on rayn has vanished? It's not vanished. If I meta-read him he's playing almost the same as his other town game (although not exactly the same). I'm suspicious over that small discrepancy but it's so small it could just be regular town-town discrepancy in his play. I think his accusations against me are bullshit but apparently I'm the only one (aside from the Grack point I concede). I can sort of understand where he's coming from though, and almost everyone here seems to think he's town at this point so it's pretty pointless beating a dead horse. If he's mafia you guys probably already lost. In any case he isn't the lynch today.
Ok. If you think so there are only 2 ways for you to survive this day.
1) You convince rayn that you are town. Unlikely.
2) You make a better case on a mafia. Maybe possible.
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On March 12 2014 01:33 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 01:27 boonetown wrote:On March 11 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:On March 11 2014 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That's the point. He calls people scum without telling why they are scum.
Did you read his defence? He twists every piece of argument into something that it isn't and calls me names.
rofl, i am not switching my vote. I yell you at post game if you don't see why that dude is mafia. True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia? how have i been doing that? granted, i know i'm flip flopping a lot on my reads, but i think i have to to try and get better at this medium of mafia. i'm trying to learn from your guys at the same time that i'm trying to actually help, it's not easy. but i dont think i've done any name calling other than maybe 1 or two times when i was frustrated, and yeah, i shouldn't have. but to say i'm acting the same as templar is so far from the truth. It's not about the namecalling. It's about the unexplained reads.
yeah i know, i'm having a hard time trying to explain myself here. i'm used to getting gut reads and body reads, so trying to read into what people are saying and then explain why i think they are wrong is so hard to convey through text for me. but i'm going to try and make my reasons more clear today.
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On March 12 2014 01:56 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
So Palmar, if you assume I am town, who is scum for you?
If there is a green check on you I guess I just work on the list I posted, you can check it out yourself. Grack/boone are the next two options at the moment, but I could be wrong on someone like dandel. or maybe even robik. Until I think otherwise rayn is town and I'm pretty sure everyone agrees slam/jat are town.
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On March 12 2014 01:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
Like how, for example, I haven't heard a single explanation for why you think I'm mafia yet, and you've been insisting on that one for 3 days now.
I think you're mafia for a few reasons (and some of them I HAVE explained, just maybe not to your liking).
Firstly, I think that the way you flipped in the last 1-2 minutes to ensure that VE was hammered over Templar is pretty damning, but in the same breath I said that Palmar moved his vote in the same time frame from Killing to VE, and therefor you two were my 1&2, but I didn't think you were together.
I have also stated that based on your filter (the first 4 pages more specifically) you were really trolly and your filter consists of you trying to be funny, not really giving any original content or reads, but rather making sure you are just poking at people and adding posts to your filter. I don't feel like you were trying to find mafia, instead I feel like you were merely trying to look town by doing something that isn't actually helping town.
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On March 12 2014 02:03 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 02:00 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On March 12 2014 01:57 justanothertownie wrote:On March 12 2014 01:53 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Anyways, right now, assuming Rayn is wrong, I can't really put stock into his townreads because I know his reads are shit this game. He will get time to re-evaluate them once I flip green though so hopefully he can figure this shit out after he wastes one of the misslynches based on a "meta-read".
I know there seems to be this huge town circle from Rayn/Palmar that seems to conclude that Grack/Dandel/Palmar/Rayn/Slam are all town but I know this can't be the case because I'm fairly confident that Robik is town now so it can't be Robik/Boone, meaning someone is pretty fucking wrong.
So your scumread on rayn has vanished? It's not vanished. If I meta-read him he's playing almost the same as his other town game (although not exactly the same). I'm suspicious over that small discrepancy but it's so small it could just be regular town-town discrepancy in his play. I think his accusations against me are bullshit but apparently I'm the only one (aside from the Grack point I concede). I can sort of understand where he's coming from though, and almost everyone here seems to think he's town at this point so it's pretty pointless beating a dead horse. If he's mafia you guys probably already lost. In any case he isn't the lynch today. Ok. If you think so there are only 2 ways for you to survive this day. 1) You convince rayn that you are town. Unlikely. 2) You make a better case on a mafia. Maybe possible.
Rayn is clearing Grack/Dandel. It's still possible Rayn is wrong because he is clouded by me, but I sort of liked Grack's/Dandel's contributions today. That basically leaves Palmar as an almost necessary scum.
I don't think both Boone/Killing would be rolled mafia together when it's both of their first forum games, but it's possible. Boone has been off this game for me so I'm suspicious of her. If I ignore meta things like that and the medic claim, she would be my #1 lynch even before Palmar.
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I'm really not going to make a huge case against another lynch though as I'm sort of not even going to be mad if I get misslynched at this point.
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This string makes me think Grack could be town:
On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two.
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win
##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win
##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing Hijole I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term. Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI. Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar? I'm basically just sheeping between the two. Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.
Having said the above, do you guys believe that this is a rational reaction to Joey's woe is me post?
On March 06 2014 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.
Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.
lol ok this guy is not mafia.
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On March 12 2014 01:59 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:On March 12 2014 01:51 IAmRobik wrote:
My lynches today are Grack and Palmar with a sprinkle of Dandelion. I know that Rayn is gonna keep pushing Templar, but I refuse to vote on him and think he'd be a terrible lynch...About as terrible a lynch as Rayn thinks Dandelion is. I like how you're doing exactly the same shit to me today as Dandel did to you yesterday that made you go mental. Don't ignore me buddy. I've already pointed out what I thought was scummy about you. You didn't really respond other than 'well, i'm confused this game and I suck this game so uhhh, yea. I can't be mafia cause I flipped off of mafia and onto town"
then respond to it. For reference your reasons are here:
On March 11 2014 05:28 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote:On March 11 2014 05:24 IAmRobik wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar Based on what? VE vote d1 -subpar play all game -increased activity today when you knew you were going to get pressure -hari's ungodly wisdom
And my response is here:
On March 11 2014 07:22 Palmar wrote:
1. The VE vote was the most towny thing I've one this entire game. It was a terrible play, but it was not mafia play. Remember that I started out on VE. Then I randomly decided all the scum was on VE's wagon so I moved over to Killing, then I figured VE wasn't defending himself and was probably scum and went back.
I had no guarantee that enough people would follow me to make the lynches count. In fact I pushed a few people onto Killing (who in your theory is my scumpartner) before moving back.
2. Yes I've had an off game. That doesn't make me mafia, it just means that something about this game doesn't quite click for me. Even now I'm still constantly doubting myself. I'm having to remind myself that rayn's interactions with ggtemplar look quite good, just so I don't doubt the townread on him because he feels still somewhat off this game.
3. Today is not weekend. That helps?
4. Shouldn't you be trying to lynch Grack then? hairy seems much more confident in his grack read.
If you are not going to change your mind, you have to explain why my rebuttal is not satisfactory. Feel free to call me mafia but your thought process needs to be entirely in the thread for everyone to see, if you successfully lynch me it'll be there for everyone to scrutinize after I flip.
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no it isn't a rational reaction
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Based on that meta-read though I'm fairly convinced there is at least one mafia between Palmar/Rayn.
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On March 12 2014 02:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 01:59 IAmRobik wrote:On March 12 2014 01:56 Palmar wrote:On March 12 2014 01:51 IAmRobik wrote:
My lynches today are Grack and Palmar with a sprinkle of Dandelion. I know that Rayn is gonna keep pushing Templar, but I refuse to vote on him and think he'd be a terrible lynch...About as terrible a lynch as Rayn thinks Dandelion is. I like how you're doing exactly the same shit to me today as Dandel did to you yesterday that made you go mental. Don't ignore me buddy. I've already pointed out what I thought was scummy about you. You didn't really respond other than 'well, i'm confused this game and I suck this game so uhhh, yea. I can't be mafia cause I flipped off of mafia and onto town" then respond to it. For reference your reasons are here: Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 05:28 IAmRobik wrote:On March 11 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote:On March 11 2014 05:24 IAmRobik wrote:
##unvote
##vote Palmar Based on what? VE vote d1 -subpar play all game -increased activity today when you knew you were going to get pressure -hari's ungodly wisdom And my response is here: Show nested quote +On March 11 2014 07:22 Palmar wrote:
1. The VE vote was the most towny thing I've one this entire game. It was a terrible play, but it was not mafia play. Remember that I started out on VE. Then I randomly decided all the scum was on VE's wagon so I moved over to Killing, then I figured VE wasn't defending himself and was probably scum and went back.
I had no guarantee that enough people would follow me to make the lynches count. In fact I pushed a few people onto Killing (who in your theory is my scumpartner) before moving back.
2. Yes I've had an off game. That doesn't make me mafia, it just means that something about this game doesn't quite click for me. Even now I'm still constantly doubting myself. I'm having to remind myself that rayn's interactions with ggtemplar look quite good, just so I don't doubt the townread on him because he feels still somewhat off this game.
3. Today is not weekend. That helps?
4. Shouldn't you be trying to lynch Grack then? hairy seems much more confident in his grack read. If you are not going to change your mind, you have to explain why my rebuttal is not satisfactory. Feel free to call me mafia but your thought process needs to be entirely in the thread for everyone to see, if you successfully lynch me it'll be there for everyone to scrutinize after I flip.
your 4 explanatory points mean nothing.
1) You didn't push jack shit onto Killing. The two people that jumped onto killing after you (killing still wasn't the lynch target at this point) were me and JAT. I assure you that your vote did not influence my decision not ONE FUCKING IOTA. Unless JAT comes here and says that you influenced his vote, then point 1 is absolutely null and is you pulling at strings to give yourself some random fucking town cred that you don't deserve
2) this is just you saying that you suck. I can agree with point 2
3) This is an excuse. Cool. Your effort the previous day was lackluster as well.
4) I don't know. Grack has had his ups and downs this game, but he's definitely one of my top scum candidates.
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On March 12 2014 01:46 Palmar wrote:
So who scum boone?
Okay, here we go....
I still think that between Grack and Dandel there is a mafia, and with you in there, we might have 2. If I am wrong, then I can see a world where it's Templar/Robert. I'm pretty sure based on votes and activity and post content that Rayn and JAT are town. Alaka is more of a weird question mark to me because of Hair. I want to think Alaka is mafia, but I can't.
Robert seems to be playing fairly similar to what I'm used too, I know his style and aggression isn't everyone's cup of tea but he can usually figure the game out later on. He's better late game than he is early game.
Templar, I just don't see him putting this much effort into his posts as mafia, and if he did, he would try harder to make them more cohesive I think. Instead he's posting what he thinks as he thinks it and to me that's really town. I also think that while i'm not used to the foul mouthed templar, it's a change he needed to make to make sure people take him seriously. For that, I want to say he's town.
Grack and Dandel, I hate you both. Lol. I feel like I'm either really really wrong, or right on the money. I just can't figure out where I'd be wrong, aside from the fact that I'm alive.
Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world.
I'll give some more reads after I'm done reading certain filters.
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On March 12 2014 01:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Bonus challenge: Answer without mentioning that this is forum mafia.
lol, touche
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On March 12 2014 02:15 IAmRobik wrote:This string makes me think Grack could be town: Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 04:24 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing's probably the more likely scum of the two. Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win
##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win
##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing Hijole I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term. Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI. Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar? I'm basically just sheeping between the two. Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players. Having said the above, do you guys believe that this is a rational reaction to Joey's woe is me post? Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 05:29 Grackaroni wrote:On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.
Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.
lol ok this guy is not mafia.
Yes I already pointed out that this "remorse post" where Grack cleared killing looks somewhat bad and in addition his follow-up was Killing-favored. Here's what I wrote about the same part of the game as you are looking out.
(I know you're trying hard to ignore my content but looksy, it's there!)
On March 10 2014 19:09 Palmar wrote:-snip- Show nested quote +On March 06 2014 03:49 Grackaroni wrote:
hmmm I like Austin's killing points. Again, to be fair to Grack, he did like me come around on austinmcc when austin started posting. The timing of this post is very important. Grack who had previously agreed to a Killing lynch changed his mind based on Killing's "remorse" post, if you want to call it that. He then moved over to VE who Grack was also pressuring at the time. This next post is written when I had just made the switch over to Killing and called for everyone to go hammer Killing (something Grack did not do). Since this Grack hasn't really done anything at all in the game. He argued a bit with Oatsmaster, but his filter is extremely short and he doesn't appear to be really trying to win. That all being said, he has for the most part explained his pushes (his VE push had reasons, they weren't great but they were there). He did explain why the post by killing made Grack think Killing is town. So there are some points in his favor. However his filter is _extremely_ short, there is almost no content in it. And here's another post that looks quite bad. Show nested quote +On March 09 2014 00:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Has anyone questioned Palmar on his thought process from the end of the day? He never followed up on this against me, didn't even bother asking me himself. He just threw that out there but apparently did not care at all about the results this would generate. He may be lazy and trolling but he may also be scum. -snip-
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Boone: Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world.
Did you even read the filter before posting? Like, are you making everything up as you go along? WTF are you doing? Not only is this plain wrong, but I JUST MADE A POST WHERE GRACK DISCUSSES KILLING IN 3-4 SEPARATE POSTS AND THERE ARE EVEN MORE THAT I DIDN'T BOTHER QUOTING.
I'm --> <-- this close to lynching you over ANYONE.
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On March 12 2014 02:22 boonetown wrote:Okay, here we go.... I still think that between Grack and Dandel there is a mafia, and with you in there, we might have 2. If I am wrong, then I can see a world where it's Templar/Robert. I'm pretty sure based on votes and activity and post content that Rayn and JAT are town. Alaka is more of a weird question mark to me because of Hair. I want to think Alaka is mafia, but I can't. Robert seems to be playing fairly similar to what I'm used too, I know his style and aggression isn't everyone's cup of tea but he can usually figure the game out later on. He's better late game than he is early game. Templar, I just don't see him putting this much effort into his posts as mafia, and if he did, he would try harder to make them more cohesive I think. Instead he's posting what he thinks as he thinks it and to me that's really town. I also think that while i'm not used to the foul mouthed templar, it's a change he needed to make to make sure people take him seriously. For that, I want to say he's town. Grack and Dandel, I hate you both. Lol. I feel like I'm either really really wrong, or right on the money. I just can't figure out where I'd be wrong, aside from the fact that I'm alive. Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world. I'll give some more reads after I'm done reading certain filters.
You know what's funny? You are asked to give scumread and what you are doing is giving townreads with reasoning and scumreads without.
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On March 12 2014 01:48 IAmRobik wrote:Boone, You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides Show nested quote +On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote:
I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia. Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.
you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people.
i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to.
I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly.
I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break.
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