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On March 11 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:

About which one of the 2 Palmars are we talking here?

On March 11 2014 23:49 Palmar wrote:
I just read the voting thread, I think I may be mafia.

the difference is I am perfectly aware I'm not playing well this game. I've said so numerous times in the thread. If me playing badly for a game means that you're unable to discern between genuine confusion and mafia agenda, then that makes you no better this game than I am.

I play a ton of games, last three games I've played as town I've been spot on, I said pretty early on this game that I simply couldn't figure it out, hence "I'm having a bad game". It happens to everyone that isn't marv/syllo every once in a while.

So, this is the question. You seem to be under the impression you're playing a good game. I can't argue with your results, but how about you show that when there's actual pressure to do so. I am not mafia, none of the points you brought up make me mafia and I explained why. I don't think you are mafia (remember, I called you town very early in the game, I never voted for you on day 2 and went for killing instead, go read my day 2 filter).

If I am right that you're town, you should see that I did not look for the easy lynch by jumping on Dandel's bandwagon yesterday. I could have, but I didn't.

So I'm challenging you to really think about what you're doing. I mean, if you do and come back thinking I'm still mafia, so be it, and if you manage to get me lynched that's my bad, but don't claim in the post-game or after the flip that it was because I was playing scummy, because I am not, and I can go through great detail explaining why.

On March 12 2014 01:04 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm at work, but I'm here. We're not being productive and if Palmar is town, he's still not doing dick, so like, I'm perfectly happy to lynch him cause he's probably mafia. And at the end of the game if he flips town and calls us bad for lynching him, well it's his fucking fault cause he's "confused" but didn't put the effort into the game that it deserved.


Palmar from QT:


If you're town this game palmar, you're a lazy POS and you should be rereading and trying to solve the game, not doing jack shit, having superficial interactions with yourself and with JAT.

On March 11 2014 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes.

But i'll give you a prime example that proves templar is mafia.
Since you all are incapable of going to the Really small mafia game and read his filter which is 100% the same kind of play he does this game here:

Look at his stance on Grack this game. This is the last fucking time i repeat this.
D1: Grack is town because he follows a good case by templar
D2: When VE flips town Grack is mafia because he followed a bad case and "forced a mislynch" (which by templar's logic should be HIS fault as he made the case).

This is what he did in Really small mafia, these are my posts on him on D2:



What he does is he twists the same information to fit a scenario that benefits him the most. He calls people town and mafia based on same information depending on which furthers his agenda the best.

This dude is 100% mafia, his play matches exactly his play on his ONLY scumgame on this forum and it's NOTHING like his townplay. + his posts are full of crap and his reads do not evolve naturally.

On March 11 2014 21:00 justanothertownie wrote:

True but to be fair this seems like a dm thing somehow. Just look at boone - she does exactly the same. Or are you calling both of them mafia?

On March 12 2014 01:27 boonetown wrote:



how have i been doing that? granted, i know i'm flip flopping a lot on my reads, but i think i have to to try and get better at this medium of mafia. i'm trying to learn from your guys at the same time that i'm trying to actually help, it's not easy. but i dont think i've done any name calling other than maybe 1 or two times when i was frustrated, and yeah, i shouldn't have. but to say i'm acting the same as templar is so far from the truth.

On March 12 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
Also I don't call people bad post-game for lynching me, unless it's done without giving me a chance to explain things. You have given me plenty of time to explain things so if I get lynched it's on me.

Remember, if I get lynched because you want me lynched, you've successfully managed to lynch me using terrible arguments (they're terrible by definition as I'm not mafia) and I couldn't win over bad arguments.

hence, my fault.

On March 11 2014 22:14 Grackaroni wrote:
Fuck meta. I've won as scum by going, "oh no. I'm such a bad scum player there's no way I could be scum right now." I've also won as scum from people going, "Grack is good at scum. he wouldn't just afk day1 because people were suspicious of him"

What I know is that Dandel Ion made an incredibly suspicious vote. That is still suspicious regardless of how he is expected to play. I normally like meta a lot but some things just trump meta and that last second vote switch is suspicious as fuck.