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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 13:40 GMT
#2501
On March 11 2014 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 11 2014 22:35 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You should know me JAT. I rarely give a shit about what people post, i give a shit about WHY they do post what they do.

Maybe. But what I see in this quote is you defending a mafia with weak and suspicious reasoning. Anyways you should probably discuss this with slam since he is the one voting you for it. You are not my lynch for today.

Also i gave a clear reasoning why in my opinion Killing's post did not make sense from mafia perspective. Agreed?
So if you think i am scum for that why don't you then say so?

Well, I can not see in your brain rayn. I see templar getting attacked for calling slam scum and town in one post and I see this quote and it doesn't add up.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 13:42 GMT
#2502
On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it.

Like I really hate when people do this. Killing's alignment does not make my post any less townie/scummy. Because i gave a clear reasoning why i said what i did. If people want to call me mafia for that post they should have done so right after i made the post, not after Killing flips mafia because the flip is IRRELEVANT. Being wrong =/= mafia and i would hope people would learn that at some point..
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 13:43 GMT
#2503
On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it.

We could. But my time is limited and it doesn't help us finding the lynch target for today so I'd rather not have to argue with you. Don't need no PYP LOL 2.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 13:44 GMT
#2504
On March 11 2014 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it.

Like I really hate when people do this. Killing's alignment does not make my post any less townie/scummy. Because i gave a clear reasoning why i said what i did. If people want to call me mafia for that post they should have done so right after i made the post, not after Killing flips mafia because the flip is IRRELEVANT. Being wrong =/= mafia and i would hope people would learn that at some point..

If it makes you feel better I think the post would be similarily irritating if it wasn't about flipped mafia.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 13:47 GMT
#2505
On March 10 2014 19:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
D1:
At the start of the game templar has Killing as town because he pointed out good stuff on Palmar.
A bit later templar changes his read on killing to be scum because of what robik said.
When the votes start to pile on VE/Killing instead of him, Killing is not anymore mafia and Robik gets demoted from strong town (wasn't the stuff good anymore?).
Grackaroni is strong town because he realized same stuff templar did about VE and pushes his lynch.
In the end of D1 Killing is back to being mafia "in case scumbuddy flips at least i called him scum".

D2:
At the start of the day Dandel gets a townread for what JAT said in QT.
Grackaroni is mafia because he pushed VE lynch for stuff templar thought was good aswell!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA!
templar points out more evidence for Killing being mafia, but likes Boone/Killing/Robik a lot less, there's probably at least one mafia in them but doesn't know who it is yet. This makes no sense given his stance on them EOD1.
He calls boone mafia because boone is casting light suspicion on Palmar but not trying to lynch him. Notice templar's top scumread has been me throughout the game, and he has shown no interest in building a case on me nor convincing anyone to vote for me.
Then he votes for Slam out of nowhere, "because he has done nothing but troll". But this is what he said a while back; "Kinda like Palmar/Slam still". He asks a couple of people about their stance on Slam.
When me and Oats vote for Killing templar comes in with a "case", but hey, he still wants to kill me the most. It does not matter his top scumread is voting for the same target he ends up voting for.
He points out Palmar's alignment is not necessarily related to Killing's or that we can't deduce Palmar's alignment based on Killing's.

D3:
Votes for Grack because Grack defended Killing on D1 and pushed VE lynch instead.
Says "(just to make it more clear, Killing had 2 scum yesterday, Robik was his top scumread, Grack was his second. his reasoning on Grack was weird/awkward as hell)". This should point into Grack being town because if mafia's reasoning for someone to be mafia is awkward it's more likely they can't come up with a good reasoning because the target is town. As mafia it's easy to make a case on mafia because you already know the other person is mafia. So this reasoning is pure bullshit.
Suddenly Dandel is scum again because Grack is scum too and templar "can see them both being mafia with Killing".
Boone could be mafia because she called Grack/Dandel scum yesterday (with myself as a possible fourth) and has been defending Rayn a lot. If she really nailed it there mafia would have certainly killed her in the night (no reason not to hit two birds with one stone).
Ends up voting for Palmar.

TLDR; DO I SERIOUSLY NEED TO FUCKING WRITE ANOTHER PARAGRAPH WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL THESE THINGS TEMPLAR HAS DONE?

##Vote: GGTeMpLaR

On March 10 2014 22:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
There are three things that are important, here they are (in order from most important -> less important):
1) His stance on Killing. Every time Killing was not under attack (after the start of the game) templar calls him mafia. When Killing is under attack someone else is mafia. See especially his reads on D1 and his "push" on Slam on D2 when the thread was discussing killing/grack.
2) His reads do not evolve rationally. He calls people town and mafia for same reason. He calls people who do same things he does mafia. His stances on people make absolutely no sense as i have pointed out many times.
3) When he's been called out he does not attack people's arguments rather than the people behind the arguments.

If there is something you don't understand or want me to elaborate more on please do ask.
The bolded & underlined parts go together with (2). Everything else basically goes together with (1). (3) is a general observation from all of his posts. I would also add (4) which is that i have noticed a pattern in his activity which is that he is not here posting at any point other than when he is under attack from someone. That does tell about him not wanting to figure out the game instead of just wanting to survive which is a basic mafia trait.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 13:48 GMT
#2506
On March 11 2014 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it.

We could. But my time is limited and it doesn't help us finding the lynch target for today so I'd rather not have to argue with you. Don't need no PYP LOL 2.

Then don't, because i am town.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 13:51 GMT
#2507
On March 11 2014 22:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 22:43 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 11 2014 22:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Because being wrong does not make anyone mafia and my my resaoning is not suspicious unless you want to point out why, then we can discuss it.

We could. But my time is limited and it doesn't help us finding the lynch target for today so I'd rather not have to argue with you. Don't need no PYP LOL 2.

Then don't, because i am town.

I hope so. Would make this game much easier.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 13:51 GMT
#2508
Also you should put your votes on ggtemplar.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 13:52 GMT
#2509
On March 11 2014 22:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also you should put your votes on ggtemplar.

I am considering it but I would like to hear from him before.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 13:55 GMT
#2510
Not only the case but his defence was "the stuff rayn says is just incorrect, fabricated, etc etc.." without pointing out why.

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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 11 2014 13:56 GMT
#2511
I am considering it but Grack deserves to die more.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 13:57 GMT
#2512
rayn looking town in this conversation, templar is the lynch.

Grack looks slightly better for defending me. Ez game for maf, just don't call palmar scum.

Maybe we should come back to lynching that lurky and statement posts medic..
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 13:58 GMT
#2513
so many mafia fuck up and call me scum all the time. all you have to do is just call me town all the time and agree with everything I say and I think you're confirmed town.

maybe one mafia is doing that ^^
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 14:00 GMT
#2514
Funny thing. templar says he has been pro-active and trying to figure out shit. JAT go through templar's filter, ctrl+f "?" in his filter and see how many questions & conclusions based on those questions he does have in his filter.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 14:01 GMT
#2515
EBWOP: questions that can be even remotely labeled as "trying to figure out the game" in case it wasn't clear.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 14:05 GMT
#2516
Man I hope you're right rayn so I can ride my confirmed town status for the rest of the game.
Computer says mafia
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 14:06 GMT
#2517
Don't worry this lynch is my baby.
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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16329 Posts
March 11 2014 14:07 GMT
#2518
On March 11 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Funny thing. templar says he has been pro-active and trying to figure out shit. JAT go through templar's filter, ctrl+f "?" in his filter and see how many questions & conclusions based on those questions he does have in his filter.

Nice observation. There are nearly no questions that are gaining him information. There are rhetorical questions, questions used in his own defense but apart from that...
Possibly useless observation: If he for once posts a real question then it's often directed at slam or about slam somehow.

This might be the strongest argument you brought up thus far.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 14:09 GMT
#2519
On March 11 2014 23:07 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Funny thing. templar says he has been pro-active and trying to figure out shit. JAT go through templar's filter, ctrl+f "?" in his filter and see how many questions & conclusions based on those questions he does have in his filter.

Nice observation. There are nearly no questions that are gaining him information. There are rhetorical questions, questions used in his own defense but apart from that...
Possibly useless observation: If he for once posts a real question then it's often directed at slam or about slam somehow.

This might be the strongest argument you brought up thus far.

The problem is not necessarily that do does that. The problem is he claims he has been pro-active in trying to figure out the game which is definitely not true based on what i said.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 11 2014 14:10 GMT
#2520
Like, some people are not pro-active. They observe and make conclusions. But claiming you have been pro-active when you are not is a straight out lie.
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