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boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:44 GMT
#2621
On March 12 2014 02:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:22 boonetown wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:46 Palmar wrote:
So who scum boone?



Okay, here we go....


I still think that between Grack and Dandel there is a mafia, and with you in there, we might have 2. If I am wrong, then I can see a world where it's Templar/Robert. I'm pretty sure based on votes and activity and post content that Rayn and JAT are town. Alaka is more of a weird question mark to me because of Hair. I want to think Alaka is mafia, but I can't.

Robert seems to be playing fairly similar to what I'm used too, I know his style and aggression isn't everyone's cup of tea but he can usually figure the game out later on. He's better late game than he is early game.

Templar, I just don't see him putting this much effort into his posts as mafia, and if he did, he would try harder to make them more cohesive I think. Instead he's posting what he thinks as he thinks it and to me that's really town. I also think that while i'm not used to the foul mouthed templar, it's a change he needed to make to make sure people take him seriously. For that, I want to say he's town.

Grack and Dandel, I hate you both. Lol. I feel like I'm either really really wrong, or right on the money. I just can't figure out where I'd be wrong, aside from the fact that I'm alive.

Grack, you tried pretty hard on D1 to not talk about killing and to try and understand templar's play so that you could say based on other people's reads, that he's town. I might be reading it wrong, but that's what I took from it. I guess in this case, there could be a world where you and Templar are mafia together. I just don't want to live in that world.


I'll give some more reads after I'm done reading certain filters.

You know what's funny? You are asked to give scumread and what you are doing is giving townreads with reasoning and scumreads without.



I HAVE GIVEN MY FUCKING SCUM READS ALREADY (with reasons) AND NO ONE WANTS TO ACCEPT THEM.

How about you just tell me what you want me to say/do. Would that be easier for you?
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 11 2014 17:45 GMT
#2622
what does the fox say boone
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16324 Posts
March 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2623
On March 12 2014 02:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I didn't give up

that's very convenient of you though JAT

Is it? Then you better try lynching me while I am away! Maybe you will succeed!
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2624
On March 12 2014 02:39 IAmRobik wrote:
over half of your posts on d1 were about rando lynching VE and questioning austin. you didn't even give rationale for either of your vote flops at the end.


There wasn't much time, I explained it better later, although I did give reasons for thinking both of them were scum.

Remember, the story is entirely consistent.

I asked VE to be active. An active VE doesn't get lynched day 1. Getting lynched day 1 is reserved for lurkers, people who don't have time to play, people who fuck up and policy lynches. So when crunch time hits and VE is actually a very legitimate target I convinced myself that if he got himself into a ditch like that he wasn't putting in effort despite me asking him to, and was thus mafia. Clearly he had other reasons for getting lynched day 1 and I was wrong.

I flipped on killing simply because he was a leaning mafia read for me (bottom 2 or so at the time). And I felt the wagon on him was shady, wish I had stuck with it but I didn't, I went back to the reasoning I just explained and killed VE, or well Dandel killed VE, but I enabled him doing that.
Computer says mafia
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2625
On March 12 2014 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:27 boonetown wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Boone,

You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides

On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote:
I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia.



Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.



you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people.

i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to.

I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly.

I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break.

Then we have identified part of the problem if you are town. Don't play differently because you are a blue role. Always play like a VT.



you have NO idea how nervous I was to get medic in my first forum game. no fucking idea.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 11 2014 17:46 GMT
#2626
On March 12 2014 02:46 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:44 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
I didn't give up

that's very convenient of you though JAT

Is it? Then you better try lynching me while I am away! Maybe you will succeed!


pass
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 11 2014 17:47 GMT
#2627
##Unvote
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:47 GMT
#2628
On March 12 2014 02:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Well I'm pretty disappointed with the way I played this game. I'm usually never BM and I lowered myself to BM.

I'm a decent lynch because if Rayn is mafia he will actually have to do something besides tunnel me. If Rayn is town, he will actually have a decent shot at figuring out the game from there (unless he is NK which would be HILARIOUS - just saying).



Or in the off chance you two are mafia together and you flip mafia and he looks like a based god. /doubtful
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2629
On March 12 2014 02:34 IAmRobik wrote:
I have a crazy fucking idea that will probably detract from actual scumhunting, but I wanna test it out. Anyone mind?


go for it
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2630
On March 12 2014 02:46 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:30 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2014 02:27 boonetown wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:48 IAmRobik wrote:
Boone,

You know very well that you're off the table for one reason and one reason alone, otherwise you would have been BURIED already. I am tired of these excuses "i'm getting used to this medium" blah blah fucking blah. I want cases on people. I want you to tell me why certain people are town and why certain people are mafia. I don't care if you're wishy washy about it, but like read people and give them +/- points either way. Take some sort of stance besides

On March 12 2014 01:44 boonetown wrote:
I still think Templar is probably town but I don't understand his game play style, but that's just me getting used to the way people play on forum mafia.



Like this isn't Boonetown. This is Boonemafia. This is even worse than Boonemafia. This is BoonemafiaIdon'tgiveashit.



you're so fucking wrong it's laughable. the fact that you are this wrong on me, makes me wonder how wrong you are about other people.

i HAVE to explain myself this game, i HAVE to let me know that this is new for me, because if they assume i'm in this game because I know what I'm doing, i'm even more of a detriment to town than I am now. You also cannot say to me or anyone that this is my mafia play, because you have never seen me play like this before. You need to adapt your reading on people this game, just as I am trying to.

I wouldn't have been buried, and I guarantee you if I wasn't the medic, I would have played D1 much differently, and probably much better. So to say that unless I claimed medic on D1 I would have been buried isn't true. I claimed because I had too, because it's my role and I wanted to try and get at least one save. Until that point I hadnt even been able to use my role. So, if I could get just ONE save, I would have died happy. That being said, if I wasn't claiming medic on D1 it would be because I had a different role, or no role at all, in which case my play would have been different and I could have defended accordingly.

I HAVE given reads, I have also given reasons, they just aren't adding up so people can't make sense of them. Hell, I can't really make sense of them. I am working on it, it's why they change and I flip flop. Give me a fucking break.

Then we have identified part of the problem if you are town. Don't play differently because you are a blue role. Always play like a VT.



you have NO idea how nervous I was to get medic in my first forum game. no fucking idea.


Why? Medic is like the easiest blue rule, you literally can't fuck up.

Except for that one medic who protected the scum I tried to vigilante shoot.

But other than that, just medic obvious townies.
Computer says mafia
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2631
On March 12 2014 02:47 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Well I'm pretty disappointed with the way I played this game. I'm usually never BM and I lowered myself to BM.

I'm a decent lynch because if Rayn is mafia he will actually have to do something besides tunnel me. If Rayn is town, he will actually have a decent shot at figuring out the game from there (unless he is NK which would be HILARIOUS - just saying).



Or in the off chance you two are mafia together and you flip mafia and he looks like a based god. /doubtful


impossiburu
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2632
I'm out for a while.
Computer says mafia
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
March 11 2014 17:48 GMT
#2633
On March 12 2014 02:09 boonetown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 01:34 Dandel Ion wrote:
Like how, for example, I haven't heard a single explanation for why you think I'm mafia yet, and you've been insisting on that one for 3 days now.



I think you're mafia for a few reasons (and some of them I HAVE explained, just maybe not to your liking).

Firstly, I think that the way you flipped in the last 1-2 minutes to ensure that VE was hammered over Templar is pretty damning, but in the same breath I said that Palmar moved his vote in the same time frame from Killing to VE, and therefor you two were my 1&2, but I didn't think you were together.


I have also stated that based on your filter (the first 4 pages more specifically) you were really trolly and your filter consists of you trying to be funny, not really giving any original content or reads, but rather making sure you are just poking at people and adding posts to your filter. I don't feel like you were trying to find mafia, instead I feel like you were merely trying to look town by doing something that isn't actually helping town.

Okay, so if it's only the first 4 pages, why don't the other pages matter?
My game isn't restricted to the first half of day1. You can't just ignore half of my play and then call me scum anyway.

Of course I'm looking town, everybody wants to look town. Nulltell at worst.
It helps town if I'm confirmed town and not a lynch candidate. If every townie did that properly, town would win every game ever.
It's the most important thing.


But since you're implying you have more than just those weak little things, keep em coming.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:49 GMT
#2634
On March 12 2014 02:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:35 boonetown wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 12 2014 01:50 boonetown wrote:
On March 11 2014 22:57 Palmar wrote:
rayn looking town in this conversation, templar is the lynch.

Grack looks slightly better for defending me. Ez game for maf, just don't call palmar scum.

Maybe we should come back to lynching that lurky and statement posts medic..


you aren't lynching me today, yes i have been a little lurky the last day or so, but i have been active in the earlier days. life happens as i'm sure you're all aware. i am here now and just reading through the pages.

other than you thinking i should be policy lynched for something i didn't realize i wasn't supposed to do, or making "statement posts" which might just be the way i play... what else makes me mafia in your eyes?

Let's see.... being a non-factor in pushing/questioning people, overall defensiveness and excuses/lack of confidence and unexplained weird reads.



I was a non factor!?!? I questioned joey start of D2, determined he was mafia, and voted accordingly. I also tried my best to explain to people WHY i thought he was mafia. I tried to explain why I thought Austin was mafia on D1 and Rayn was town (though we now know I was wrong on austin). I tried to get him lynched, and no one was having it. Yes, I have excuses and maybe I'm lacking a little confidence and I don't really care if this is scummy to you or not. I know my role and alignment, and if you don't want me to explain why I have played the way I have, don't ask me. I am defensive because that is how I play, and I'm frustrated. I shouldn't have played this game, I even tried to get out of it at one point but was told because of my video mafia and epicmafia games, I qualified. Now that I'm here, I'm out of my element, I have no fucking clue where I'm going wrong and people want to push on me for the most retarded reasons, without accepting that my excuses are FACTS.

You want to lynch me, for right ahead. You'd be doing me a huge fucking favor at this point.

At the start of D2 mafia knew Joey was going down no matter what. Better bus him.
Your excuses may be facts. The scummy thing about is that you are bringing them up all the time in the first place. Just stop that and contribute by giving reads/questioning/pushing people.


I am trying
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 11 2014 17:49 GMT
#2635
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:50 GMT
#2636
On March 12 2014 02:41 IAmRobik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2014 02:38 boonetown wrote:
On March 12 2014 02:02 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey is a terrible mafia and an OK town at best. I don't know where you go about respecting his game the way you do. Joey clearly gave up at some point (pretty certain he thought he was lynched on d1). Dandelion and Palmar saved the shit outta him after JAT and I tried to lynch his scummy ass



Joey has some God-Like plays, you cannot deny that. He's not a mediocre player when he's trying, but when he doesn't try... he's shit. Where are you trying to go with this? You keep poking at me as if you want to insinuate that I'm mafia or bad or whatever the fuck it is you want to say, without really saying anything.

Out with it.

I said it plenty clear. I think you're mafia. Besides Joey's shitty d1, I voted him over VE because you voted for VE and I thought that your claim sucked a big fat one. If you didn't claim medic and if we would have actually gotten my d1 target lynched, I would have pushed the shit out of you d2. Your contributions to this game are inconsequential and unremarkable and I expect more from boonertown...i'd even expect more from boonermafia, but meh...her town game is better




I'm just going to ignore you now.
boonetown
Profile Joined February 2014
Canada169 Posts
March 11 2014 17:51 GMT
#2637
On March 12 2014 02:45 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
what does the fox say boone



KEY KEY KEY KI KI KI KI KEY!
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 11 2014 17:54 GMT
#2638
I don't know why, but this reads very contradictory to me. I know you say you haven't been around, but it seems that you know that his play has changed and you still decided that he didn't fight hard enough so you lynched him, even though he hasn't been fighting hard lately.

To be honest, from the couple games of video mafia that I've played with VE, I would have 100% locked him as town. He actually tries as mafia and has rational thoughts that he wants to get out, whereas as town he just doesn't give a damn and just says what he wants to say when he wants to say it.

On March 09 2014 02:38 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar why you let the VE lynch happen.


I made it happen. And because he shouldn't be an easy lynch on day 1 as town, his lack of standing up for himself in the thread or even trying to get the lynch off him made me think he could be mafia.


On March 09 2014 02:50 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2014 02:46 Oatsmaster wrote:
On March 09 2014 02:38 Palmar wrote:
On March 09 2014 01:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
Palmar why you let the VE lynch happen.


I made it happen. And because he shouldn't be an easy lynch on day 1 as town, his lack of standing up for himself in the thread or even trying to get the lynch off him made me think he could be mafia.

I think this is like the 3rd or 4th time ive seen ve mislynched day1 so its not like an uncommon thing as you seem to be saying

VE _used_ to be super townie on day 1, you can probably find old games with me saying that VE's best quality is that he is always wrong and always look super green. VE has changed his play up quite a bit during the time I've mostly been away.

Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
March 11 2014 17:55 GMT
#2639
On March 12 2014 02:49 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moSFlvxnbgk

i love this song.
Computer says mafia
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
March 11 2014 17:57 GMT
#2640
Crazy theory time:

What if we ask Hari questions to better lead us. Instead of him just giving us information he thinks we should have, maybe we can ask questions and he can answer them to us based off of information that we would find useful. Maybe find out if he was a player in the game. Maybe determine if he has other checks/medic saves/other voting powers, etc. Maybe he knows if there are other "PRs" in the game besides himself.

I know it's outlandish, but it's something that I've been brewing over since the cryptic post at the beginning of the day.
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