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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:24 Balla24 wrote: Doc shouldn't be able to save unless there is also no talking on n0. Doc was able to save n0 in the previous game I think and it was fine, even with talking. The issue is we missed out on a LOT of the fun stuff that can happen because we shot the cop n1 and the scum player who fakeclaimed cop then spent the rest of d1 shitting up the thread until he got lynched. not fun shenannies. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:23 Sn0_Man wrote: PS Scum QT is very bare-bones, can I get the explanation behind why syl claimed to have green checked me? I understand why syl claimed, just not why he claimed a green check on me. Probably because if he claims a red check on you he already has one dude who has him as 100% scum, it's much harder to battle the real cop if the real cop already has 1 100% supporter. Would be my guess. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
But wtf was Oats doing? On March 04 2014 03:07 Xatalos wrote: That's kind of funny, but also true, I guess... "A surprising proportion of the time, the correct answer is to lynch the one who looks extremely pro-Town." Fuck I hope I'm never alive as town on LYLO then | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:57 gonzaw wrote: So, Syl was like obvs scum on D1. But wtf was Oats doing? Fuck I hope I'm never alive as town on LYLO then The basic underlying concept is that if someone looks really townie and they're not dead you should ask yourself why they're alive. Sometimes there's a good reason but sometimes it's because they're scum | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
NK's being "BH, Claimed Cop, Claimed Doc" in that order made sense though. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:13 Blazinghand wrote: The basic underlying concept is that if someone looks really townie and they're not dead you should ask yourself why they're alive. Sometimes there's a good reason but sometimes it's because they're scum Yeah Well, it is true that the "active 'pro-town' player actively trying to lynch the other one in LYLO" dude is more likely scum than the "lurky guy that is confused and can barely make a case on the other one" guy. The mafia has LYLO all planned the moment the previous Night phase started (if there are no hidden blues and shit of course). They have all Night X to plan who to kill at night, and plan who to pursue for the misslynch the next Day phase. The other dude, if was inactive and stuff, is more likely confused as fuck and doesn't know wtf is going on or what to do. Even if the other dude is confirmed scum to him, he'd be confused as to why this situation is happening, and wtf he can do to win the game. Yeah, as you can see in this game, that "plan who to have with you at LYLO as scum" plan went so well the confirmed townie just hammered without thinking, and JJD like couldn't even make any case whatsoever. But then again, there was Artanis' "plan" to have Oats and JJD claim at the same time or whatever to know who is the doc and who is the "lying scum". In this specific game, that was a good move, since it "forced" scum to kill Oats at night and tunnel JJD, while putting them in a good situation since...well....what townie would do that at night? Confirm 100% one player, and confirm the battle to be between you and the other dude? | ||
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On March 04 2014 03:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Probably because if he claims a red check on you he already has one dude who has him as 100% scum, it's much harder to battle the real cop if the real cop already has 1 100% supporter. Would be my guess. Yeah, we decided to try and make the claim as believable as possible. We were willing to make Sn0 100% confirmed just to have the cop be unconfirmed, which we weren't sure of if it would happen if he made a different claim. | ||
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:38 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Yeah, we decided to try and make the claim as believable as possible. We were willing to make Sn0 100% confirmed just to have the cop be unconfirmed, which we weren't sure of if it would happen if he made a different claim. That was a pretty ballsy plan, but it paid off well. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Blazinghand
United States25560 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
On March 04 2014 04:51 Blazinghand wrote: If I were mafia I'd just claim with a red check on some guy rather than a green check and try to get a lynch pushed through on either him or whoever claimed cop for real (even better if they're the same person and I claimed first. I'd be like "hah, how convenient that you claimed cop!") Fake redchecks never really get anything accomplished though, since you will always sleep d1 unless doc got a save. Once you sleep real cop either dies and the check means nothing OR the real cop checks the target you checked and it still ends up being a lynch between cops anyways. Like, you fake red check your teammate: real cop checks him and gets mafia AND your teammate is forced to buss you. You fake redcheck the real cop: whoopdiedoo it doesn't mean anything until you lynch between each other and prove the cop anyways. You fake redcheck another townie: real cop checks him and gets the real alignment and then you lynch between each other anyways AND you can't kill him at night AND he knows your alignment. Redchecks suck. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
I mean, think about it: 1)If people think your check is bogus and you are lying, then they MUST think that the check is wrong, therefore that you are actually town, therefore they MUST think you are the real cop! 2)If people think your check is legit and you are telling the truth, well, then by association, they MUST think you are the real cop! The perfect crime... | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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