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On February 12 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 12 2014 00:18 marvellosity wrote:On February 12 2014 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 11 2014 03:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn you've been calling me scum this whole cycle. Forgive me if I take EVERYTHING you say with a grain of salt. On February 11 2014 03:42 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like you say you listen to me but you cherrypick two one-line posts to try and disprove me "pushing" Vayne. Why didn't you include the post where I provide the reasoning for my read rayn? Because you're not interested in "figuring me out", you're interested in garnering enough thread sentiment to lynch me. On February 11 2014 03:47 VisceraEyes wrote:
I am talking to you - if you're on the cusp of rage that's your thing, not mine. I never said I wouldn't talk to or listen to you. I said I'd take everything you say with a grain of salt - meaning that because I'm a scumread of yours, you're obviously not going to be talking to me about your real scumreads and you're only trying to get me to "slip" or whatever and everything you say has a sole purpose of getting me lynched whenever the opportunity arises.
So rage on friend. It makes literally zero difference to me. If you're town then perhaps your rage will make you see things differently. This is a set of posts that bother me the most about VE. Especially the bolded parts. He kinda says i am mafia because why else would you write the bolds?But right after the nominations he says i am an universal townread (which was not even true). These two do not go together very well for me. No, what he's saying is that you are town and you think he's mafia (and you're possibly tunnelled), so you're just trying to make him slipup and reveal things rather than talk genuinely about his scumreads. However, that doesn't actually make the posts look any better, because if he's town and he thinks you're town, he should be looking to convince you that your scumread on him is incorrect. Well apparently he thinks i am town. Has VE just become 100x worse player he used to be? Like what's that shit then? I'm not sure, it's kinda insidious. I don't know if you remember in LXIV, he kept telling people to go away who thought he might be scum. For example I read coag as clear town in that game because he'd engaged in VE, VE had told him to shit off, and coag thought he'd caught VE (they were both town for anyone wondering). I think VE did the same to you as well maybe? This game, those posts... they aren't that blatant compared to LXIV. You've not come across to me as particularly tunnelled on VE, so his posts repeatedly saying he won't engage with you because you're just going to be unfair come across quite badly indeed.
To be fair i talked with Coag about his scumread on VE in LXIV and it was because of "this one 100% scumtell from OMGUS.net where VE bolds random words and that's why VE is scum". That was his reasoning, or at least what he gave me, not that VE told him to "fuck off" because VE always tells people to fuck off, especially as town.
But yeah, the explanations in those posts do not make any sense to me unless he thinks i am mafia, which can't be true because he called me town a bit after that.
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Oh hi! Gosh am I interrupting?!
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No the explanations make sense if he thinks you're town as I already explained, but still meh.
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I just caught up and I'm not even going to filter any of you guys! So good job!
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On February 12 2014 00:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
Oh hi! Gosh am I interrupting?!
How are you today, sweetcheeks?
How did your filter-dive last night go?
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On February 12 2014 00:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol thanks for summarizing my filter Palmar, how useful.
Do you have any specific questions?
Why are you so directionless.
day 1 you wanted to lynch/were suspicious of the following players:
Koshi/marv/rayn/VE/Cora/WoS
today you want to lynch/are suspicious of
VA/yamato/VE with one ore from Grack/HF/WoS/geript (3 out of those 4 you have not mentioned before)
Like that's just about everyone in the game.
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On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.
Just requoting this because I think it's kinda an important thing to think about.
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On February 12 2014 00:28 marvellosity wrote:How are you today, sweetcheeks? How did your filter-dive last night go?
The filterdive was to be today. Last night was League of Legends. AND IT WENT GREAT!!!
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On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here.
The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched?
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On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched?
Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does".
I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play.
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On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does". I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play.
Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame?
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Another question asked by Grack that got answered and then nothing.
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I shat on the Cora lynch. PRETTY sure I wouldn't do that as scum, but I guess it depends on who is next in line.
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On February 12 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does". I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play. Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame?
yeah, but imo that doesn't really change the central point.
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On February 12 2014 00:31 Koshi wrote:
Another question asked by Grack that got answered and then nothing.
You're right, and it was a bad, "gimme" question too.
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I don't think any of you are scum at this point. I sorta thought one of you had to be yesterday, but after seeing the effort you guys have put into this phase there's like no way.
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On February 12 2014 00:32 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 12 2014 00:29 marvellosity wrote:On February 12 2014 00:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:On February 12 2014 00:26 marvellosity wrote:
One thing about VE that makes me wary of being sure he's mafia is that I somehow feel that as scum he'd push some agenda more.
Mafia-VE has never ever been afraid to push an agenda, and I don't really see it very much here. The thing is does he really have to? Or rather has there been a point in this game where he needed to d oso? We were pretty set on lynching Cora on D1 because he decided it was cool to not play at all. There was pretty much nothing mafia needed to do and especially considering me, you and palmar are very very VERY likely to be town why would you need to push any agenda instead of keeping options open when one of yours is not even close of getting lynched? Well the thing about VE is that it's not really that he "needs" to, he just "does". I don't remember a single scum-VE game where there isn't a clear direction in his play. Correct me if i am wrong but VE's play has changed a lot since his last scumgame? yeah, but imo that doesn't really change the central point.
Yeah i guess that makes sense.
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Also I cleared you as soon as I saw the nominations. If you're going to pretend to care what I think, at least read my posts Palmar.
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