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On February 19 2014 03:52 gumshoe wrote:
Allow me to be clear, the only possible blue roles that can do shiit are doc and parity. Doc should only maybe claim if he healed someone, then two townies are cleared which might be worth it (its honestly up to the doc.) Parity should not claim period till he has two reads unless he desperate for town cred and faker should claim likewise if he wants cred or is about to be lynched. I was covering every possible scenario (ie doc faker or parity) I was not implying which are in the game, something I would have absolutely no way of knowing even if I was scum. Whats your point?
Yes I understand that neither should claim. I'm not asking for anyone to claim. I'm, saying that we should discuss the fact the people ALREADY claimed.
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I think it's just a mistake in the way he worded it rayn. I would think that mafia would be well aware that they shouldn't know setup and would be carefull not to just go willy-nilly talking about it.
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K, I like the case gumshoe. Just reread Mattchew and didnt see anything to make me think u were wrong.
##vote Mattchew
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On February 17 2014 01:42 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 01:39 roundabound wrote:
Actually a serious question Mattchew; Do you even read what people's posts say and do you think why do they say what they do?
~rayn i have my way of getting reads, you have yours, if you want to insult my reads you better be damn sure yours are correct
OK, I feel like this is mattchew basically telling rayn that he knows that his reads are wrong.
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On February 19 2014 04:24 roundabound wrote:
The case is the same i made on D1 with more words.
Why is it good now Grackaroni and was not good on D1?
~rayn On February 19 2014 04:26 roundabound wrote:
Same question to you JJD.
~rayn I guess it was good. Mattchew was one of the first people i was suspicious of and IDK, I guess nothing materialized. I don't really recall a big push for his lynch. There was a portion of day 1 where I was super busy and I tried to keep up on the thread but it's possible I missed some stuff.
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screw it
##unvote
##vote sidesprang
I dont care that people don't think we should talk about roles. Sidspring claimed Cop and asked for protection right before the deadline. I can't think of a single towny reason to do this. I want an explaination.
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And he still hasn't given a good aswer for this:
+ Show Spoiler +On February 17 2014 14:35 JarJarDrinks wrote:##unvote
##vote: sidesprang This was kinda discussed but sidespringe retracting his vote for roundabout makes no sense: Here he explains how it's a policy vote: Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 17:26 VIVAX420 wrote:
it feels like he's fake claiming scum. Show nested quote +On February 16 2014 17:27 sidesprang wrote:
Then he deserves to get policy lynched, and hopefully a ban aswell. So he's saying that even if he's town, he deserves to be lynched for fake claiming scum. So why in the world would he unvote him after round said he was lying? Here's his explaination: Show nested quote +On February 17 2014 00:59 roundabound wrote:On February 17 2014 00:54 sidesprang wrote:
And its not a read, its him scumclaiming and voting himself. So why are you not voting for us now? Why did the policy disappear? ~rayn but that makes no sense. He just told us that he deserves to be policy lynched. So the fact that he took the claim away shouldn't have much to do w/ the reason he's voting for him. Especially since: Show nested quote +On February 15 2014 05:08 sidesprang wrote:
No I have no scumreads that I feel strongly enough to lynch. You'd think that he'd leave his vote on his policy lynch then. It's not like he has some other great read that he really needs to not waste his vote.
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Conspiracy theory time.
Scum has 2 Forum Heroes, 1 Trilaner
On January 23 2014 07:43 Blazinghand wrote:
Base Setups - pick one at random:
A) 1 Forum Hero, 1 Satirist, 1 Trilaner, 1 HopeTorture, 1 NesTea, 8 Progamers
B) 2 Forum Heroes, 1 Trilaner, 1 BoxeR, 1 NesTea, 8 Progamers
C) 2 Forum Heroes, 1 Trilaner, 1 BoxeR, 1 HopeTorture, 8 Progamers
D) 1 Forum Hero, 1 Satirist, 1 Trilaner, 2 BoxeRs, 8 Progamers
They know that there can't possibly be a doc and a cop.
So, they decide to dual claim right before the deadline, knowing that one of their claims will for sure go uncountered
On February 18 2014 23:18 sidesprang wrote:
im cop On February 18 2014 23:18 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm the doctor!
I mean, they happened to both be around @ the deadline and claim @ the exact same time?
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On February 19 2014 05:48 sidesprang wrote:
You make the worst cases JJD, like really really bad ones. I'm sorry. Have you even made a single case this game?
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On February 19 2014 05:49 roundabound wrote:
What's the point of double fake claiming if they don't even know who is going to be under attack on D2 and one of them is gonna get cc'd?
~rayn
What's the town motivation?
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On February 19 2014 06:08 sidesprang wrote:
The reason for claiming cop close to deadline = get mafia to swap to you, ofc its not gonna work and it was just for trolling. Thought that was pretty clear. You'd also have just as much of a chance of getting the doc to switch to you. And weren't you worried that you'd actually get countered? If you're town, you risked outing a PR for no possible gain. This is only a scum play.
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On February 19 2014 06:39 Mordanis wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 03:16 IAmRobik wrote:Well that's pretty clear. roundabound = town On February 16 2014 17:21 thrawn2112 wrote:
stop voting roundabound thrawn = mafia On February 16 2014 17:34 thrawn2112 wrote:On February 16 2014 17:33 bumatlarge wrote:On February 16 2014 17:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
someone who is under no suspicion asks to be lynched and you think it's a good idea to indulge them? really? Their is a big difference in asking to be lynched and claiming scum. I would consider asking to be lynched a null tell because it's TL mafia, but you can't say "I'm scum claiming" and not hinting at a joke whatsoever. Don't get me wrong, Rayn likes to be stupid to prove a point in dramatic ways, but I doubt they went over what mocsta just said as idle lynch bait. I'm scum claiming My (IAmRobik) own conclusion from Thrawn's pg 3 filter: bum probably scum Could you explain why? I agree, but I'd like to hear why you think bum is scum.
and also why you don't want to lynch him?
On February 19 2014 05:50 IAmRobik wrote:
Let's just lynch: Grack/Mordanis/jjd/sidesprang in any order
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Wow Mordanis, have you really not cast a single vote this game?
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On February 19 2014 06:52 IAmRobik wrote:
I'm being pretty damn lazy about doing the voting analysis. If someone wants to do it for me that would be great. Well of the 4 people u want to lynch: Grack and sidespring voted for town, Mordanis didnt vote @ all, and I tried to vote for Grack and sidespring.
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On February 19 2014 05:32 JarJarDrinks wrote:
screw it
##unvote
##vote sidesprang
I dont care that people don't think we should talk about roles. Sidspring claimed Cop and asked for protection right before the deadline. I can't think of a single towny reason to do this. I want an explaination. oops forgot to post this in voting thread.
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On February 19 2014 11:32 VIVAX420 wrote:
Does anyone think that Raynsta has an at least remote chance of being scum?
Even just slight suspicions. I'd like to know. I think ur more likely to be scum out of the 2 of u. But then again I don't think I've ever read rayn correctly.
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On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. Show nested quote +On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts.
I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
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On February 19 2014 12:29 roundabound wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters?
What does the bolded part have to do with anything? Why would it be a town/scumtell to attack someone based on their quantity of posts? ~rayn IDK, I'd think scum would attempt to pick on the weaker, lurkier players.
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On February 19 2014 12:30 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 19 2014 12:24 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 19 2014 12:09 Grackaroni wrote:On February 13 2014 06:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Suspicious of IAmRobik. I don't like that he sheeped a townread on VIVAX420s 1 post. I thought he was joking @ first but he went on to defend it. And I really don't like that thinks its scummy that vivax would question it: On February 13 2014 05:44 IAmRobik wrote:
Additionally, your post questioning it is awkward. If someone calls me town I'd be happy as all hell. It's d1. Who gives a damn really on any sort of rationalizaiton. That's like the opposite of how a townie should think. If someone gives you a townread for no good reason, how do you not immediately get suspicious of that person? On February 13 2014 06:17 JarJarDrinks wrote:On February 13 2014 06:07 IAmRobik wrote:
2) I don't think that's the opposite of how town should think. If people have reads that they want to keep to themselves for the time being that's fine. If people want to put out reads just to promote conversation that's fine too. If I'm called town I'm thrilled. I'm town. I know I'm town. If someone else that's town realizes I'm town, that's one less person that I need to convince and 1 less mislynch that town wastes.
Unless that person is scum of course. Like you say "If someone else that's town realizes I'm town" well how would you know that person is town? You wouldn't of course. And when the reasoning is terrible (ie: like urs was) it should immediately raise ur eyebrows. On February 13 2014 12:57 JarJarDrinks wrote:k IamRob reminds me alot of vayne in his early games where has a big ego about his play and thinks that everyone else is wrong about the way mafia should be played. So while I think it's bad play, I do think it's town play. I really didn't like how rayn jumped all over him for it since I think it looked like he was just trying to find something to jump on and I feel like rayn should know better. He's since backed off but it's possible it's just cause IamRob gave him no choice by the amount of posting he's doing.Really don't like Mattchew right now. Everyone of his posts seem carefully non-confrontational and he's giving out way too many town reads. By my count he's had townreads on vivax, iamrobik, quantum and rayn while the closest thing to a scumread is this: On February 13 2014 06:27 Mattchew wrote:
Is lynch grack and not look back I'm not sure if he actually thinks grack is scum or not since that's all he says about him. I think these first 3 quotes in JJD's filter are rather scummy. The first thing he does is attack Robik alongside Rayn, and then when the thread comes to the conclusion that Robik is town he comes back and says he thinks Robik is just bad and that he suspects Rayn for attacking Robik. I don't really understand this from a town POV because earlier he thought that Robik was suspicious, so Rayn pushing him should still feel justified and shouldn't have felt like Rayn was just looking to find something to jump on. Rayn was like totally all over Irubik, making a ton of posts, calling him scum, and eventually voting for him. All I did was question a few of his posts. I mean, u really think it's scummy to have my first bunch of posts attack the 2 most active posters? You didn't question his posts you called him suspicious. And then when town accepted Robik as town you came back and accused Rayn of being scum for calling town-Robik scum. It has nothing to do with them being active; I question your mindset. It's highly unusual to suspect someone for sharing a thought process you had previously subscribed to.
I didn't say he was suspicious. I said I was suspicious of him. That may seem like semantics but I never called him scum or made any type of push.
Town accepted him as town because of his posting. The same reason I did. And then afterwards I went back and didn't like what I saw from rayn based on that. I think that's a perfectly natural progression.
I don't think it's unusual to suspect someone for "thinking" how you previously thought yourself when you were actually wrong.
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