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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 17:35 GMT
#714
On January 22 2014 02:29 suki wrote:
This game is stupid because there's been so much tunneling, despite there being so much activity. It's like everyone decided 'hey lets just be anti-town and focus on one person and not comment on anything else'. Zarepath (on VE), Balla (on Crossfire), Bumatlarge (VE and maybe rayn), Artanis (rayn), Barristan (Zarepath), Thrawn (kush). Crossfire and WileE are ridiculously quiet as well. That's over half the players in the game.

Yes, exactly this. Me, you and maybe VE are the only one's who actually comment on more than just one or two things (i don't countt kush bvecause he doesn't really explain anything - but he is still probably town - LOOK THRAWN, I HAVE A CONCLUSION!).

Artanis - Balla both weird. Another interesting thing, Balla calls out Crossfire for making a case on me,why not call out Artanis out for voting for me with basically no reasoning?

As i said i see Artanis' posts as townie, i can get the logic. I don't like how he has done pretty much nothing at all.

I still want to lynch zarepath. seriously everything he says contradicts what he did a post before.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 17:36 GMT
#715
On January 22 2014 02:35 Balla24 wrote:
Also lets be honest here, my activity on day1 most of the time last game was spent pressuring newbies who were scared to post into posting. There's no reason for me to do that here.

Yes there is because apparently half of the people in this game are worse than those newbies as they say nothing at all..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 17:41 GMT
#718
thrawn;
zarepath, Crossfire, Artanis, Balla??? or do you want to lynch bum?
go!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 17:59 GMT
#730
Wait so you didn't even read it and just called it really really bad?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:04 GMT
#736
On January 22 2014 03:01 zarepath wrote:
Okay, again, two different things. suki's case was based off of not knowing the difference between when VE was talking about the two different plans.

That particular point in my case was a little bit tunneled, but the idea was that all of his opinions are tempered -- he's "KINDA okay," he's "mostly indifferent," he's "giving benefit of the doubt." When I said "wishy-washy" I think a better term would have been noncomittal or "meh."

Again, as I said earlier, this was digging a little deep and maybe I was subconsciously tunneling. But that argument is different than the one suki made (and I had corrected).

And when this all has ended and you don't anymore think that stuff makes VE mafia, you are voting the dude who made the same conclusions than you did in the first place.

High five!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:06 GMT
#741
On January 22 2014 03:05 zarepath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2014 03:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On January 22 2014 03:01 zarepath wrote:
Okay, again, two different things. suki's case was based off of not knowing the difference between when VE was talking about the two different plans.

That particular point in my case was a little bit tunneled, but the idea was that all of his opinions are tempered -- he's "KINDA okay," he's "mostly indifferent," he's "giving benefit of the doubt." When I said "wishy-washy" I think a better term would have been noncomittal or "meh."

Again, as I said earlier, this was digging a little deep and maybe I was subconsciously tunneling. But that argument is different than the one suki made (and I had corrected).

And when this all has ended and you don't anymore think that stuff makes VE mafia, you are voting the dude who made the same conclusions than you did in the first place.

High five!


We're not voting for an entire mafia team at once, we're voting for who we think is most likely mafia. It would be stupid to not think someone's mafia because they targeted the same guy as you once

THAT IS ALL YOU HAVE DONE IN THSI GAME.
OKAY I AM WRITING A POST NOW.

Post in 15min.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:13 GMT
#743
Here is what zarepath has done in this game:

- made a case on VE. case does not say why VE is mafia.
- case is full of things zarepath has defended VE for earlier on in the game -> now they are just reworded to look scummy instead
- case is also full of things that are certainly not alignment indicative, like VE is defensive when he is curious about what someone's post says.
- never tries to push the case, or ask anyone's opinion about the case.
- when he finally does that, i give an opinion. suddenly the case is not good anymore, he himself says so and let's it go.

- then he calls out bumatlarge, who has done the exact same thing (made a case on VE and then retracted from it) and votes for him. bumatlarge is scum because "he let go of the case as noone believes him" but his own reason is something really townie - When he has never even explained why anything he has said makes VE mafia, and when someone asks he says "hush hush, go away, i let go of my case, look how good townie i am, i might have been tunneled".

That's bullshit, so very bullshit, all of it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:17 GMT
#745
I can get making bad cases, i can get contradicting oneself, i can get townies do this sometimes when they re-evaluate.

What i don't get is that a guy who has had the exact same thought process as you have in the whole game (yes, bum's case is pretty close to what zarepath's is) is suddenly mafia when your case is called out shit. When i am town and someone thinks almost definitely alike me and reaches into same conclusions than i do, i can't possibly call them mafia and i instantly think they are town just because of it.

There is no fucking way zarepath thinks bumatlarge is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:26 GMT
#748
Every stupid wording shit is dumb. I already know zarepath is capable or rewording stuff in a way it looks like what he wants.
If anything, bumatlarge is honest in his retraction of VE, zarepath is not.

It does not make any sense for him to do so, it just doesn't. You don't make a fucking big case and sit on it for for 24h and when people call it out you say "okay i was tunneled kthxbye, but hey i also vote this other guy who had the same thoguht process i did". No townie ever does that.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:28 GMT
#750
On January 22 2014 03:22 suki wrote:
On the flip side I don't think scum zarepath would jump on bum either. If you're mafia why would you jump on the person who has the most heat on him? Especially for all those reasons that you stated why a 'town zarepath wouldnt go on bum'. There are plenty of other decent targets for a scum Zarepath to choose.

I also think Bum's retraction from VE is super scummy and don't fault Zarepath for thinking so as well.

because he is the only person who can be lynched besides him.
as town you don't think about this stuff but as scum you do.
that's why.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:33 GMT
#753
No i am not. What in your case made VE scum?
You ahve still not proven it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:35 GMT
#755
Also i have already pointed out where you defended VE and later on they were points in your case "why VE is mafia".
So cut the crap, start reading the thread and answer your contradictions.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:44 GMT
#759
I thought VE was talking about the two different plans, kush's "don't lynch anyone who claims blue" plan and the Boxer claim plan. I don't know what he was talking about with the "2 is pretty potent" quote, I have no idea what he's saying. But I didn't think he was inconsistent while reading him because he had two different opinions on two different plans.

*does it look like he has a problem with VE's posts about plans?*

vs

Lots of early discussion about the two plans, wishy-washy demeanor, Wants others to discuss things, not himself

*another way to describe VE's early game (yes, nearly all quotes inside those spoilers are about the plans)*


@Thrawn, VE's vote seemed premature to me because I didn't really see a super early blue claim as scummy, but not wholly unreasonable considering Wile WAS directly contradicting everything he had said earlier.

*vote is premature but has a reasoning behind it*

vs

Immediate attack on Wiley for blue claiming:
This seemed like another very easy thing to do, but in his accusation he doesn't really explain why it's scummy, just that "it's all bad." It's easy to attack someone for being obviously contradictory without actually calling them scummy, and that's what he did.

*vote had absolutely no reasoning behind it and was easy thing to do for mafia*



Do you guys even read this guys posts?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:47 GMT
#762
Yes and they are direct contradictions. As is what JonnyLAw just brought up so maybe you can tell why you call other people scummy for what you are doing all game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 18:54 GMT
#764
Okay why is it more likely that bumatlarge does not just think he can't get VE lynched anyways and does not want to waste time on him? Or do you have other reasons t ovote for him than his unvote?

The ideal townie would pursue his read no matter what, but a non-ideal townie isn't necessarily scum. What shouts scummy to me is the transparent motivation of focusing on how everyone else perceives his arguments, and not on his arguments themselves.

btw i think this is exactly what you are doing. your voting behavior and posting around the VE case screams this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 21:13 GMT
#835
Claim does not mean anything.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 21:14 GMT
#838
Yeah the more i think about it the post from Crossfire is more likely to come from town.
There is a reason mafia does not attack me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 21:31 GMT
#853
ugh.. i have no idea what to do.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 21:35 GMT
#859
On January 22 2014 06:34 JonnyLaw wrote:
I say 100% for fairness' sake we cannot change the vote. It's shitty but I think it would have passed regardless. Hell, he could still be lying but rules 11 and 12 make me believe scum did not receive at a role pm to fake claim.

Well this is terrible.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
January 21 2014 21:36 GMT
#862
No townie wants anyone modkilled especially when mafia has fakeclaims and it's easy to prove and i have asked the hosts about it already.
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