[M][N] "SMB" Mini Mafia

On January 15 2014 01:11 marvellosity wrote:

Death Note is the most blatant example

On January 16 2014 09:35 kushm4sta wrote:



yeah im fine with lynching sn0 at this point.
##vote sn0

@thrawn was rayn talking in another game?

On January 16 2014 10:01 Toadesstern wrote:
So Ceph, what was your your thought process when you figured it's a good idea to explain that there's no self-aware millers?

There's no BH in this game so it's quiiiiiiiite unlikely that a townie would ever fakeclaim self-aware miller.

On January 16 2014 10:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What's this?

On January 16 2014 10:20 Grackaroni wrote:

I'm still here though!

On January 16 2014 16:01 Oatsmaster wrote:
lol rayn hasnt done jack shit, how does that make him somehow scummier than like Grack or Hopeless?

On January 16 2014 16:23 Oatsmaster wrote:

Thrawn, here you seem to think that hopeless is scummy and earlier you thought Grack was scummy. Whats with all these contradictions in your reads? Why bother saying this if you think hopeless and Grack are both town?

On January 16 2014 16:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
twe3k pls why do you do this???

Thrawn, when did you reread this 10 page thread? And what exactly makes Rayn the scummiest guy in the room?

On January 16 2014 16:42 Oatsmaster wrote:

Another thing, why do you first say you unvote Grack because too much pressure is bad, then after that, you say you unvoted because you think he is likely town?

On January 16 2014 16:00 Skanjab1s wrote:
Hiii. I'd be delighted if you kittens could indulge me in a brief questionnaire, it'll only take a little of your time.

(1) Do you prefer to play as town or scum?
(2) What will you be remembered for this game?
(3) How do you react to pressure?
(4) Is your play usually emotional, or reserved?

Joke answers = Totally scum, by the way.

On January 16 2014 16:53 Oatsmaster wrote:
Like Koshi is also able to be productive, but he hasnt been yet. Why dont you vote for him?

On January 16 2014 18:06 Skanjab1s wrote:


Hey hey I was away way.

On January 16 2014 18:12 Skanjab1s wrote:


I think you're almost certainly town, and I'm leaning slightly town on Oats, too. Your interactions feel like town-on-town.

What do you think of Sn0?

On January 16 2014 18:33 Skanjab1s wrote:


It felt scummy to me, so I put it in the case. And yes, a lack of desire to find scum is, believe it or not, present in scum.

On January 16 2014 19:02 Koshi wrote:
Feels like Skanjab is doing the same as in Hogwarts only more tryhard. But I like the case. So meh.

More interested in Oats atm. Not going to let him live because he is in people their face. It is proven he can do it as scum.

On January 16 2014 19:02 Skanjab1s wrote:
Obviously I don't stop to consider reasons in my case of why snoman might be town.

On January 17 2014 05:37 Skanjab1s wrote:



#neverforget

Thraaaaaaaaaawn.

On January 17 2014 05:35 Sn0_Man wrote:

Tell me more

On January 17 2014 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
hey thrawn, who's scum?

On January 17 2014 06:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Comments on kush/Mig/Toad?

On January 17 2014 06:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay that's weird.
Why?

On January 17 2014 06:11 Koshi wrote:

O rly. Tell me more.

On January 17 2014 06:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Why is Koshi scummy again?

On January 17 2014 06:30 Sn0_Man wrote:
For real though, I don't get the kush read.

He starts out out-of-character, produces 2 scum candidates practically out of thin air in like the first 3 pages of gameplay, then is reminded that he's not playing to "meta" and instantly reverts to useless troll without even bothering to try to develop or justify his reads. Which, by the way, he feels the need to keep calling scum without adding to any body of evidence.

If he started out as usual then he'd get a free pass as "just kush" but that start is bothering me combined with how rapidly he tailored himself to thread expectations.

On January 17 2014 06:35 Toadesstern wrote:
(changed because only adressing that part):

which is soley based on your sn0 read that apparently clashes with mine?

On January 17 2014 06:41 Sn0_Man wrote:
Erm thrawn...

As nice as it is that you are handing out town-reads like they are going out of style, the entire thread cannot be town (I checked, Caller isn't the host). Whats the master plan here? The goal of the game is to find and lynch scum...

On January 17 2014 06:56 Toadesstern wrote:
prior to all of this Mig had 0 posts, therefore null.

On January 17 2014 07:05 Toadesstern wrote:
=
you said prior to this... I took "this" for the whole sn0 discussion. He hasn't posted anything before the sn0 discussion started.
If you were referring to something else with "this" you need to specify the point in time

On January 17 2014 08:13 Toadesstern wrote:
I'm not letting anyone stupid enough to propose a deal like that get lynched, no need to worry. That's why I'm thinking about the changed version instead.

On January 17 2014 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:
After further review of the thread, I have come to the conclusion that Koshi is scum. As town, Koshi will enter a state of mafia depression after lynching a townie or after failing a mission. In this game it appears he entered a mafia depression after reading his role pm.

##Unvote: Grackaroni
##Vote: Koshi

On January 17 2014 10:27 kushm4sta wrote:
How I realized it though is because he is acting totally differently from his town games.

On January 17 2014 10:52 kushm4sta wrote:
@thrawn in wc2 he attacks people in almost all his posts

On November 05 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:

Yo I'm supposed to be a brainwashed religious acolyte. Original and thought provoking not really my thing hue

On November 05 2013 03:50 Sn0_Man wrote:
If I could substantiate them there'd be substantiations in thread yo.

Besides not so many reads just stuff. You weren't (aren't? unsure) playing how I'm used to but I can dismiss that if I need to. Was about the best I had. My shots at onegu are strictly based on teh player i have no idea his current alignment.

Massive walls of text full of dumb videos is either rayn territory or scum usually so I'm flaming gumshoe.

MEANWHILE I have no actual idea who is scum so I'm making sure people don't decide to lurker lynch me

On November 05 2013 03:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
Well I don't have a nice blue role this game to claim and be conftown but w/e. This is more or less my day 1
I promise I'm developing reads and thinking about the game, just not at a rate that provides anything interesting to town right now. I try to gather data with a more or less null read on everybody so as to be objective, then study the data once I feel like its enough for a "read".

On November 05 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Can WoS post this actively as scum? Not a fan of his take on the game so far.

On January 16 2014 09:27 Sn0_Man wrote:
Its my first mafia game in monthsssssss

PS since when does kush do like reads and shit 15 mins into a mafia game?

On January 17 2014 11:11 kushm4sta wrote:
sn0man why are you so much more chill this game?

On November 05 2013 03:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
I dont do stuff D1 WoS you silly person you.

On November 05 2013 03:39 Sn0_Man wrote:

Yo I'm supposed to be a brainwashed religious acolyte. Original and thought provoking not really my thing hue

On January 17 2014 11:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey thrawn, does this dumb meta argument mean anything for the alignment of the people that supported it? Namely, skan, toad, mig, kush?

On January 17 2014 11:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think it is suspicious in the way that you are doing it tho. You aren't really advocating or directing the lynch away from sn0_man, merely pushing against his lynch.

That is more or less my quip, going against the grain hard with no solution

On January 17 2014 11:48 Oatsmaster wrote:

your grack post is 'this is bullshit, grack is scum'.
I dont share the same opinion.

On January 17 2014 07:26 Grackaroni wrote:

I have been doing stuff actually. I spent hours in the scum QT with Skanjab1s planning out our night kills. I'm afraid Kush isn't long for this world.

On November 19 2013 17:26 Blazinghand wrote:
In any case what's really funny, what really gets my goat more than anything else is that people are like finding weird explanations for why Grack can troll and be town or whatever and then when he's serious they take him serious and when people question him he trolls and everyone thinks it's okay. People who thought he was scum just suddenly stop thinking he's scum because in his own Grack-ey way he's so loveable. This is exactly why this style of scum play is so effective. The fact that people are like "yeah that's just grack trolling or whatever dont' worry let's lynch BH" is in fact a piece of supporting evidence in my case on Grack.

........ snip .............

When it comes down to it, Grack has done almost nothing today that merits the townreads or at least "let's lynch him later" reads that he's earned from people. People say my case on Grack is bad because he's an "easy target" but let's be 100% real here, that's pretty much the same as saying my case on Grack is bad because Grack is probably scum. Like "easy target" = "scummy". In fact, the majority of my case on Grack has to do with the fact that he's not an easy target, that when you reach out to grasp him he slips through your fingers like smoke and vanishes like a whisper on the wind, as quickly gone as an idle daydream but as firmly remembered as a summer's romance.

On January 17 2014 12:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Man thrawn if you werent so wishy washy I would be inclined to fofllow you but as it is, you have hopped around A LOT for the first 24 hours or so.

On January 17 2014 07:04 Grackaroni wrote:
You guys are misreading what Toad writes.

On January 17 2014 12:14 VayneAuthority wrote:
not doing anything isn't a good reason to vote grack, the trolling thing is.

If we want to lynch for usefulness, there's a guy that starts with C that we should lynch

On January 17 2014 14:02 Grackaroni wrote:

That was my real reason. Koshi is usually more invested in the game and it feels really off to me that he is both not present in thread and doesn't seem to be having as much fun in the game as he normally does.

On January 17 2014 15:10 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah actually now you mention it, koshi isnt joking and playing around.

Yeah ok im convinced of kush's townieness. So Rayn/Hopeless/Sn0man gotta explain.

On January 16 2014 09:32 Cephiro wrote:
Hi all. I am not very interested in the random banter at the start of the game and I have better things to do, thus I will not take part in the first few hours of discussion, probably.

All you need to know is that I'm one in a million. :3 I shall observe from the shadows, for now.

On January 17 2014 15:20 kushm4sta wrote:
Cephiro
Koshi
raynpelikoneet

early scumteam prediction

On January 17 2014 03:29 Koshi wrote:

dnu why you are pissing off strongest townie in game.

On January 17 2014 15:39 VayneAuthority wrote:
wat does that quoted post demonstrate exactly

On January 17 2014 15:43 VayneAuthority wrote:
So you don't think koshi would re-inforce rayn if they were partners? They would play more apart?

I feel like it would be really obvious if they try to distance themselves since they play basically as a lover's pair in most games.

On January 17 2014 15:51 kushm4sta wrote:
rayn
cephilis
grack/mig
final answer

On January 17 2014 15:52 VayneAuthority wrote:


yea I don't actually believe thats the scum either, just testin' shit

rayn is most likely town unless he refuses to do anything else except tunnel kush.

Koshi could be scum, who knows until he actually posts stuff.

Cephiro would be a shot in the dark, but one step closer to making the game at least difficult for scum either way.

On January 17 2014 16:02 kushm4sta wrote:
actually it's probably vayne because his reads are lame as fuck.
These are the two people vayne wants to lynch:

On January 17 2014 16:10 kushm4sta wrote:
no idea wtf vayne is talking about

On January 17 2014 16:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
Thrawn have you been playing super high all game?

On January 17 2014 08:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
no one will follow through and will probably try to lynch me, but here's my thought process
option a) kush flips scum
option b) rayn takes a hit to his ego
option b2) rayn dies for being wrong (haha smd)

thats a win-win(-) to me.

On January 17 2014 16:46 kushm4sta wrote:
@thrawn i dont think it's an actual commitment that hopeless is making because the post is almost pure troll.
Has he ever trolled a lot as town? I don't remember it.

On January 17 2014 16:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Mostly because when I have played with town Hopeless he is usually more open minded. In this game his reaction to me trying to talk to him reminded me of him in Pandain's mason chat in Time to Die.

Hopeless
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 17 2014 17:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
kush dont need to open no filters as scum, HE KNOWS.

On January 17 2014 17:32 kushm4sta wrote:
how does point 1 get me sheeped?? When people claim VT for no reason that is a huge benefit for scum.
Do you think he got VT then was like, oh let me just claim it for no reason? no. I think he did it because he thought it would make him look town.

On January 17 2014 17:34 kushm4sta wrote:
fuck thrawn metasolved me

On January 17 2014 17:43 Koshi wrote:

He could be scum because I don't consider him as scum at all.

Mig town? Why?

On January 17 2014 08:01 Hopeless1der wrote:
can i lynch you if your wrong rayn?

On January 17 2014 08:08 Hopeless1der wrote:
no one will follow through and will probably try to lynch me, but here's my thought process
option a) kush flips scum
option b) rayn takes a hit to his ego
option b2) rayn dies for being wrong (haha smd)

thats a win-win(-) to me.

On January 18 2014 00:56 Mig wrote:
The hopeless/grack interactions are pretty strange. Both seem confident that the other is mafia but neither of them push for each other. They make one liners sniping at each other but neither really attempts to get the other lynched.

On January 18 2014 00:59 Hopeless1der wrote:

short of saying "hey guys go look at grack" every 5 minutes, what is there for me to discuss? How should I go about pushing his lynch? I don't have a known persona for bullying people nor do people expect me to have good reads, so fuck it. lynch kush. if hes scum coolbeans if hes town I get to laugh at rayn.

On January 18 2014 01:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
rayn isnt willing to die anymore. hmmmmmm

On January 18 2014 01:06 Hopeless1der wrote:
rayn isnt willing to die anymore. hmmmmmm

On January 17 2014 16:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Mostly because when I have played with town Hopeless he is usually more open minded. In this game his reaction to me trying to talk to him reminded me of him in Pandain's mason chat in Time to Die.

On January 18 2014 00:00 Grackaroni wrote:
lol are you guys on Hopeless' team?

On January 18 2014 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
I pretty much always help kill my scum buddies lol

On January 18 2014 03:48 Toadesstern wrote:
actually I don't think there's any reasonable way to defend Grack from a mafia point of view if he's indeed mafia. So I don't think the "I don't like how fast this wagon is building up" argument someone pointed at holds any value. Mafia would be bussing that, assuming Grack's mafia. Not the lynch I had hoped for but whatever, it's a coinflip and a useless guy at that, it's something.

##unvote
##vote Grack

On January 18 2014 03:51 Grackaroni wrote:
Really the only difference between me and Hopeless this game is that sometimes I play like this as town and Hopeless doesn't play like this as town.

On January 18 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know what the case on Hopeless is?

On January 18 2014 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:
dude to post above is a fucking scumslip. This lynch is great.

On January 18 2014 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't know what the case on Hopeless is?

On January 18 2014 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I saw you mentioning kush's #4 and stopped reading. I also don't like the most important thing you consider there to be is in spoilers.

On January 18 2014 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But thrawn, on the other hand this is exactly what Grackaroni does as mafia.
I'll read Hopeless in a bit, gotta see if he just mindlessly sheeps me in his other games, town or scum.

On January 18 2014 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But thrawn, on the other hand this is exactly what Grackaroni does as mafia.
I'll read Hopeless in a bit, gotta see if he just mindlessly sheeps me in his other games, town or scum.

On January 18 2014 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote:

No, the post where Hopeless votes for kush because of me is pure bullshit and if you don't see why Hopeless could do that as town you don't know what you are talking about. If that's the backbone of your case the case can't be good.

On January 18 2014 04:09 Hopeless1der wrote:

and you wonder why i was 100% serious about putting it to the test when he said we could lynch him if kush flipped town.

On January 18 2014 05:31 Sn0_Man wrote:


Wat?

On January 18 2014 05:42 Grackaroni wrote:
lol I just realized how much that last post is going to strengthen people's Grack/Hopeless team theory.

On January 18 2014 05:54 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't know what to tell you really. I've been lazy and I probably should be policy lynched. There's nothing in particular really pointing to me being scum it's kind of like lynching Cephiro. I think Kush may actually be right about his punishing theory lol; I was annoyed that Thrawn/Kush was bringing up that BH case again at the start of the game so I voted myself to watch them be more wrong about my alignment. I'm fairly confident Koshi is scum and I will try to show it after my class ends.

On January 18 2014 05:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
You cannot be serious.

"oh yeah somebody had an explanation for why I'm playing anti town they must be right sounds like i'm town guys"

On January 18 2014 05:58 Sn0_Man wrote:
You cannot be serious.

"oh yeah somebody had an explanation for why I'm playing anti town they must be right sounds like i'm town guys"

On January 18 2014 06:06 Sn0_Man wrote:

Honestly I've tried this before and if I recall, I've never lynched scum day 1. I consider it sufficiently unlikely that its more valuable to set up the next days via clearing out the afk and the useless rather than take a shot at a potential scum candidate who could also be a useful contributor down the road. Or who could be more obviously scum later.

On January 18 2014 07:54 Mig wrote:
Accidentally deleted your post thrawn, the delete/filter buttons are right next to each other sorry!

On January 18 2014 07:53 kushm4sta wrote:
how he called me a sack of shit.. i cant get over how that is the towniest thing I've ever seen. Why would he actually be mad and cuss at me, especially after he chided tweak for the semen in the eye comment?

On January 18 2014 07:58 Mig wrote:
thrawn, what do you think about grack saying koshi is possibly one of the most try hard players on TL?

On January 18 2014 07:59 Mig wrote:
I just took gracks doc claim as a joke. Surely if grack was a doc and town he would put a little more effort in to save himself. Really shitty if he didn't.

On January 18 2014 07:59 Mig wrote:
I just took gracks doc claim as a joke. Surely if grack was a doc and town he would put a little more effort in to save himself. Really shitty if he didn't.

On January 18 2014 08:08 Mig wrote:
Grack, I thought you said that vayne's post about thrawn was the best post in the thread. Why is thrawn now a town read?

On January 18 2014 08:15 Mig wrote:
So, hopeless has thought grack was scum all game. Yet instantly switches to koshi from 1 post?

On January 18 2014 08:17 Hopeless1der wrote:
I didn't think he'd actually follow up on his koshi read. Its also not a garbage read.

On January 18 2014 08:17 Mig wrote:
thrawn, you really think Gracks meta arguments are accurate? You just played with town koshi last game. He had 0 thread presence day1. And before making his case against me koshi made a bunch of little jokes.

On November 20 2013 10:08 Hopeless1der wrote:

Correct you arrogant fuck. Scum just got a free night of nk's. grats

On November 23 2013 03:19 Hopeless1der wrote:

TAKE NOTES. THIS IS HOW YOU CLAIM SCUM. 5/5 WOULD LYNCH AGAIN.

On January 18 2014 08:40 Toadesstern wrote:
you do realize it's 20 minutes prior to deadline?

On January 18 2014 08:46 Mig wrote:
Lynch grack, that hopeless reasoning is bs. If hopeless was actually doc he wouldn't claim it 15 min before lynch?

On January 18 2014 08:58 Cephiro wrote:


And what amazing logic brought you to this conclusion? Because I cannot be a townie that just didn't want to jump on the wagon of votes right away? I'd love to hear you explain this in detail.

On January 18 2014 09:02 Cephiro wrote:
So if you think I said a bunch of useless stuff in your opinion, would you like to educate me? Give me a lesson on how to change the majority's mind in 20 minutes. I'm listening, if you think you know better.

On January 18 2014 09:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Honestly i don't give a fuck. This is one of the games where i could tell ~12h into the game this game is not going to be a game of mafia.

On January 18 2014 09:10 Skanjab1s wrote:
I had nothing to add that would have helped in any way.

On January 18 2014 10:14 kushm4sta wrote:
eh id rather grack get mislynched than hopeless. not so bad.

On January 18 2014 10:27 Hopeless1der wrote:
You made some garbage posts that strictly attempt to read me on tone as opposed to content.

On January 18 2014 08:48 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea guess im not getting an answer, one scum down

##vote: grackaroni

On January 18 2014 09:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
guess we will find out tomorrow, if none of those ppl are night killed then I will believe grack rofL

On January 18 2014 09:03 VayneAuthority wrote:
saw the bananas and facepalmed

at least grack's cum tastes real sweet eh?

On January 18 2014 09:08 VayneAuthority wrote:
I think I actually want to lynch that skanjab guy, he was sitting in the thread this whole time and posts right after the flip wtf?

On January 18 2014 09:11 VayneAuthority wrote:
It was a stupid reason to call some one scummy, it's more interesting that you actually need to defend yourself from such a garbage tier reason lol

whatever, see ya guys in 24 hours or w/e

On January 18 2014 23:42 Koshi wrote:
I hate SKs though. So silly in minis. Is the Vayne SK claim that he says his reads don't matter?

On January 17 2014 16:07 VayneAuthority wrote:


There are 3 possibilities, you can probably figure them all out if you really care since you're smart. Any more info would let scum know which one it is.

On January 17 2014 16:09 VayneAuthority wrote:


That's one possibility, then think about the others and how that is useful to town as my slot, good night for real this time

On January 19 2014 05:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
vayne is town.. geez.. he is town.

On January 19 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
im pretty drunk thrawn.
Oats is so scum.
So is Toad.
Who is third?