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yeah same here. Syllo's probably my undisputed #1 townie on TL followed by either Sand or Foolishness. And than a long time noone.
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On January 29 2014 09:42 Toadesstern wrote:
yeah same here. Syllo's probably my undisputed #1 townie on TL followed by either Sand or Foolishness. And than a long time noone.
that was @marv
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On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are.
Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity.
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On January 29 2014 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are. Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity.
Um.
Do you read?
Everything he called me townie for in that post is from D1.
Why did he call me scum on D2 if he found my D1 townie?
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On January 29 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are. Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity. Um. Do you read? Everything he called me townie for in that post is from D1. Why did he call me scum on D2 if he found my D1 townie?
Because he got back at it, reread and changed his mind? Those things happen and I'd feel the need to state that as well and if I'm not entirely wrong I did so as well somewhere.
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On January 29 2014 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are. Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity. Um. Do you read? Everything he called me townie for in that post is from D1. Why did he call me scum on D2 if he found my D1 townie? Because he got back at it, reread and changed his mind? Those things happen and I'd feel the need to state that as well and if I'm not entirely wrong I did so as well somewhere.
referring to this:
On January 29 2014 01:35 Toadesstern wrote:
holy wall of texts I just had to read...
[...]
Next thing went into WoS filter again and it's exactly the same thing as he said. Sure some small things here and there but nothing convincing at all. I found myself thinking that his explanations for his emotional play and for what I considered weird play are odd but I didn't consider them and it was certainly possible despite being odd. Once that crossed my mind I thought about why he should even be emotional as mafia... There was no reason to be later on, sure maybe early on but gonzaw was praising him as a saint and Austin and I were the only ones that kept attacking him (well and Foo but only once all 24 hours) and a lynch on him didn't seem likely. There was no need to fake emotions at all so I got to the conclusion that he actually was pissed and that his weird explanations actually made sense.
[...]
Seems like he had the same intention to make things clear as I did.
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You didn't answer my question.
Why did he call me scum D2 if he found my D1 townie? What were his reasons?
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On January 29 2014 09:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
You didn't answer my question.
Why did he call me scum D2 if he found my D1 townie? What were his reasons?
he called you scum D2 because he thought you're scum D2 based on your D1.
He said you're town D3 because he went back, revised his read and came to the conclusion that you're more likely to be town, not only because of your D3/D2 play but because of everything. He's saying he made a mistake without outright saying it. That's the only issue I could possibly see but I don't consider that to be a thing.
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On January 29 2014 09:51 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:49 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are. Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity. Um. Do you read? Everything he called me townie for in that post is from D1. Why did he call me scum on D2 if he found my D1 townie? Because he got back at it, reread and changed his mind? Those things happen and I'd feel the need to state that as well and if I'm not entirely wrong I did so as well somewhere. referring to this: Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 01:35 Toadesstern wrote:
holy wall of texts I just had to read...
[...]
Next thing went into WoS filter again and it's exactly the same thing as he said. Sure some small things here and there but nothing convincing at all. I found myself thinking that his explanations for his emotional play and for what I considered weird play are odd but I didn't consider them and it was certainly possible despite being odd. Once that crossed my mind I thought about why he should even be emotional as mafia... There was no reason to be later on, sure maybe early on but gonzaw was praising him as a saint and Austin and I were the only ones that kept attacking him (well and Foo but only once all 24 hours) and a lynch on him didn't seem likely. There was no need to fake emotions at all so I got to the conclusion that he actually was pissed and that his weird explanations actually made sense.
[...] Seems like he had the same intention to make things clear as I did.
Yeh you had reasons. They were terrible, but reasons nonetheless. I hated them, but they were reasons.
Austin....?
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Nope.
Just went through his filter.
Can't find it.
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So somebody please correct me if I'm wrong (serious) but Austin has flip-flopped his read on me 2-3 times or something like that (he called me town on D1. That's all well and good, everyone re-reads and reacts and updates their analysis, but you know what the problem is?
There is no analysis of me.
Every time he talked about me on D3 it's always to talk about that stupid argument with marv and whoever whether I should or shouldn't be considered town based on alignment. It's completely irrelevant but he doesn't let it die, and he never ACTUALLY calls me scum throughout any of the time he's making that argument.
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On January 29 2014 09:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Nope.
Just went through his filter.
Can't find it.
couldn't find what?
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Oh heeeeere it is.
On January 26 2014 06:51 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, can someone tell me why Wave isn't town based on his activity so far?
Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2?
You guys think he can still be scum based on that?
Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something?
Like I really want to know.
At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc
This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin) A lot of his filter is his GIANT posts. The size doesn't necessarily equate to content though. His giant giant posts are VE is town, Prome is scum. But his reasons for VE being town are kinda murky, and he spends boatloads and boatloads of time on all these little things that make Prome scum, despite Prome being pretty much off the table (it would seem for WoS as well? I have not seen him pushing Prome lately). So while there's a lot, a bunch of it is stuff that nobody really believes, and it picks up after we lynch a mafia. You can say he's responding to pressure by posting a bunch, either side can do that (I know not all mafia do, but I know I've gone post-crazy as mafia, and we don't have a good example of WoS's scumplay so it's unknown). Maybe it's knowing that town lynched mafia D1 and WoS/buddy need to kick things into gear and take control. Add in Hapa and others finding his D1 scummy. Whatever his D2 is, his D1 still exists.Also just minor nitpicky stuff. Putting some credence in the argument that sandroba was around and active.
The entire reason for his scumread is because of my posts on VE and Prome (which apparently should be a-ok in everyone's books according to town-Foolishness now)? Well THAT explains why Austin thinks I'm town now! Foolishness said it was ok and he flipped town!
LOL AND THE BLODED
He calls me scum based on my D1 here and now he calls me town based on it....
Austin/Prome scumteam?
I hope to god that makes sense when I look through it later.
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On January 29 2014 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 09:46 Toadesstern wrote:On January 29 2014 09:40 WaveofShadow wrote:Toad. Thoughts on this. Go. On January 29 2014 06:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 29 2014 04:48 austinmcc wrote:WoS StuffStarts off poking at Kita about Sandroba. Can go either way. Very much not worried about Foolishness's early vote on him (F voted WoS for his first post) Back and forth with Kita about Sandroba. Scummy points for referencing positively Foolishness's comment on Sandroba engaging the thread actively In this post, if the team is actually marv/sand/prome, WoS accidentally catches the mafia team - + Show Spoiler +On January 23 2014 05:37 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 23 2014 05:31 Foolishness wrote:On January 23 2014 05:24 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On January 23 2014 04:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 23 2014 04:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Not the tone - the act itself. Like, if he were town I feel like rather than do a stream of consciousness thing, he would read and have actual suspicions and post those. I disagree. I could swear he's done this specifically as town before (as have I) but I'd have to check which is kind of difficult for me atm. Either way he's given me enough that even were I able to be convinced before his return (which I kinda doubted) I certainly won't be voting him today. Like I get the we 'expect more' but is it not possible that Prome simply hasn't gotten to his 'POP' case yet? I don't allow this defense for people like Foolishness/Sandroba because they haven't actively been here. That's the thing though, we don't "expect more" we expect actual thoughts and opinions. Having suspicions of someone, and succinctly explaining them, takes actually LESS effort than doing a stream of consciousness catch up thing. It's that I expected LESS. Like, I don't know, it's hard to explain. But I'm not voting for him so ultimately it doesn't matter much. Foolishness can you comment on the conversation VE and I had about Prome that ended with the above post? Sounds like you're making good arguments why he should be lynched. Look at it this way. Let's say I posted and said, "Kitaman is the best lynch right now!" what would you respond? You'd say, "wtf he's been pushing the town in the right direction and asking good questions." Now I say, "Promethelax is the best lynch right now!" (or Holyflare) what is your response? You say, "Eh, I feel like he's doing okay..." I don't see any arguments that show that Promethelax is pushing the town in the right direction or pushing a pro-town agenda. He's responded sure, but where's the conviction and the push to get something done? In relation to what gonzaw just posted, I feel like the above could be applied as well to either marv or snadroba----and actually starts to mesh with the idea that I haven't been feeling anything at all from marv all game aside from a little bit of agreement in some posts that I quoted earlier in my filter. Taking a closer look at marv. WoS, just before his Foolishness vote, has a bunch of posts on Foolishness/prome/marv/sandro. Not trusting Foolishness, who had posted a case-y thing and a vote on Prome. Asking Gonzaw about Gonzaw's vote, wondering whether Gonzaw would prefer marv or sandro. It FEELS legit. He doesn't just sheep Gonzaw's vote, there's a lot of leadup that FEELS townie to me, where WoS is looking at Prome and Foolish a lot but never really doing anything super mega conclusory with them. I like WoS's conclusion that at least one scum was on the Sandroba wagon. It was against the grain, but he's not using it to try and paint anyone in particular as scummy. He just explains WHY he thinks there's a scum or multiple scum on sandroba, says it's unlikely me or gonzaw (for reasons). I really really like his thoughts after the Sandroba lynch. Neato. I feel good about WoS's D1. I like WoS's break in his catchup posts to tell people to stop commenting on fluff in the way that they are. That reads real townie in the middle of his other junk, when he's not attacking anyone in particular, and I like it. I want to stop now. Also, I'm going to. Phoneposting cause this weirded me out Wtf waste of time is this. Why is your read on me impoortant right now? Why is it all based on D1 play when you coiuld have come to the same conclusions yesterday BUT YESTERDAY YOU THOUGHT I WAS SCUM Foolishness I am not the key to this game. You are. Not an issue for me. He was after you d2 and so was I. So I don't really see a problem there, seems like stated for clarity. Um. Do you read? Everything he called me townie for in that post is from D1. Why did he call me scum on D2 if he found my D1 townie? D2 is a confusing time for the young austin.
But after he enters his cocoon and emerges way too late into D3, he hopefully finds his way and stumbles into the world, blinking. Then he...learns to fly or something? Just read it in an Attenborough voice.
My D2 was also poopy, and I was more concerned with VE as a lynch than you. Thus the vote on him. A LOT of why I was very critical of you was for the same reason I was really critical of foolishness during N1/D2. Because of what the rest of the thread was doing.
I think thread let Foolishness off too easy after the D1 lynch. He had some WEIRD interactions with sandroba, and they were more than enough for me to not want him on any safe lynch.
I think thread let you off too easy D2, because there WERE some people posting that you were town just because you were active. If prome is mafia, then I'm going to feel SOMEWHAT justified in saying you shouldn't be let off the hook for just activity, because prome was either one person or the only person who said your activity made you townie without anything more. At the very least, if prome is mafia then HOPEFULLY I make a little more sense in my insistence that you weren't magically cleared because you'd posted a bunch. I'm just not good at taking the non-lazy step and going "well who actually exhibited this behavior." (See LXIII, where I post a whole friggin' STREAM of "things I find scummy that someone might have done" or "things I think scum might have done", and then follow up on MAYBE half of them).
So a LOT of my criticality of you was because of rest of thread. I didn't care what you'd done, I cared that people were taking this REALLY easy way out of actually talking about you.
As far as otherwise being on your case but NOT reading you carefully and saying you were town, I dunno. You weren't my lynch. I was comfortable enough with VE that I didn't go back and read you as hard. Felt very very cozy yesterday. Less cozy today, and ESPECIALLY less cozy after watching things develop and seeing Foolishness's posts, and a way to work my misgivings about marv into Foolishness's posts. The moment you REALLY chop kita and toad out of possible scummers (and with VE dead), the landscape changes a LOT. Reading you became much more important to me, in order to see if the remaining three really had dem mafias. ALSO ONCE PROME AND I STARTED TALKING RIGHT AS I GOT ACTIVE I WAS BEING SUPER CREEPED OUT BY HIM AND I PROBABLY HAD BOATLOADS OF CONFIRMATION BIAS WANTING HIM TO BE SCUM AND FOOLISH TOWN AND I NEEDED YOU TO LOOK TOWNIE IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT ARGUMENT SO I GENEROUSLY READ YOUR FILTER WITH TOWNIE SHADES ON? That's part of it. I do think your D1 looks townie in retrospect, but I was ALSO kinda hoping it would and looking for that today, whereas I wouldn't have yesterday.
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On January 29 2014 10:03 WaveofShadow wrote:Oh heeeeere it is. Show nested quote +On January 26 2014 06:51 austinmcc wrote:On January 26 2014 06:45 gonzaw wrote:
Okay, can someone tell me why Wave isn't town based on his activity so far?
Need I remind you he has the 2nd largest filter (after me)? And 10 pages of it happened this D2?
You guys think he can still be scum based on that?
Maybe he wants to prove a point as scum, that you should never surrender and keep going on? Or something?
Like I really want to know.
At the very least I want to know how he's a better lynch than Toad, or VE, etc
This goes...for everybody basically (Foo, Toad and austin) A lot of his filter is his GIANT posts. The size doesn't necessarily equate to content though. His giant giant posts are VE is town, Prome is scum. But his reasons for VE being town are kinda murky, and he spends boatloads and boatloads of time on all these little things that make Prome scum, despite Prome being pretty much off the table (it would seem for WoS as well? I have not seen him pushing Prome lately). So while there's a lot, a bunch of it is stuff that nobody really believes, and it picks up after we lynch a mafia. You can say he's responding to pressure by posting a bunch, either side can do that (I know not all mafia do, but I know I've gone post-crazy as mafia, and we don't have a good example of WoS's scumplay so it's unknown). Maybe it's knowing that town lynched mafia D1 and WoS/buddy need to kick things into gear and take control. Add in Hapa and others finding his D1 scummy. Whatever his D2 is, his D1 still exists.Also just minor nitpicky stuff. Putting some credence in the argument that sandroba was around and active. The entire reason for his scumread is because of my posts on VE and Prome (which apparently should be a-ok in everyone's books according to town-Foolishness now)? Well THAT explains why Austin thinks I'm town now! Foolishness said it was ok and he flipped town! LOL AND THE BLODED He calls me scum based on my D1 here and now he calls me town based on it.... Austin/Prome scumteam? I hope to god that makes sense when I look through it later. Oh. THIS. Read the question I'm responding to.
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I might be willing to lynch Kita instead of prome tomorrow to be honest
+ Show Spoiler +I'm totally serious + Show Spoiler +mafias probably to lazy to open spoilers, right? + Show Spoiler +please don't shoot me + Show Spoiler +in case it's not obvious enough: I'm not sure if it's the time of the day were people say weird stuff to not get shot and come out later LOLZ I BE KIDDING
see you tomorrow
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Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.
Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings.
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On January 29 2014 10:38 austinmcc wrote:
Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.
Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings.
So....you're trying to play it off as a semi-joke post or an 'exercise' not rooted in reality?
Because you seemed pretty serious about thinking I was scum to me.
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On January 29 2014 10:43 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2014 10:38 austinmcc wrote:
Anyway, WoS, lemme know if looking at that post as an answer to the question "Can someone tell me why WoS isn't town" makes more sense. I viewed it as a fun exercise to give the reasons you were mafia, in the same vein as my asking you what you would have smacked your forehead over if Gonzaw flipped mafia.
Apart from that, interested to hear from prome about all the later-in-the-day happenings. So....you're trying to play it off as a semi-joke post or an 'exercise' not rooted in reality? Because you seemed pretty serious about thinking I was scum to me. Read the question I'm responding to with THAT POST.
If the whole rest of the day gives you trouble, that's a different issue.
But if THAT POST is particularly egregious, that post is in response to a question that says, "I don't see it, someone tell me how WoS could be mafia." When responding to that, I'm going to post why you might be mafia.
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I don't think Gonzaw intends it as a joke. I didn't intend my question to you about Gonzaw as a joke.
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