And wait for the game to get manic
Though hosts may dismay,
some players won't stay,
so you'll have to deal with my antics!
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And wait for the game to get manic Though hosts may dismay, some players won't stay, so you'll have to deal with my antics! | ||
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and your opposition is hell-bent but you're not shot for skill or strong force of will most players just find you repellent | ||
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On December 14 2013 06:33 Grackaroni wrote: lol it's the Blazinghand. You've really fucked this game up so far Blazinghand. Get your shit together! sorry, i'll shoot better next time since that's totally in my control hue On December 14 2013 06:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand where are your breadcrumbs for your vigi claim? -.- ._. ok so here's the skinny i'm at work for the next 3.5 hours and i've got a number of tasks, ranging from vaguely urgent (figure out what's wrong with the multicharger) to insanely urgent (boss's phone doesn't work and he has a call at 3). I'll be in and out and then i'll slap down some reads, bring some shenannies, and so on. Cora's not in the game any more, so ignore his posts. I'd also like to disavow any reads he has made, don't hold me to any of his stuff, i fly solo ##unvote Don't worry, my back is hyoooj i carry u | ||
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On December 14 2013 06:45 kushm4sta wrote: too late bh because this game is already near solved how many scum have been lynched so far? | ||
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The fact of the matter is, sentences like "i dare you to tell me lsb and xatalos aren't scum" are bad for towns, just like cora is bad for towns. Our goal is to communicate and have discourse. you know I haven't read the thread, you know I can't tell you whether or not those guys are scum. the point of your dare is that you're saying certain facts are unassailable, shouldn't be questions, but that's now how this game works. you play mafia by questioning things, and as a guy who replaced in and hasn't read much, I'm questioning your level kush you need to get on my level | ||
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On December 14 2013 08:47 kushm4sta wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2013 07:57 Aquanim wrote: Please don't discuss Corazon's posts after his replace out, especially not provocatively. The matter has been resolved. this appeasement is beyond ridiculous. We can discuss corazon's posts if we want. 1) I wouldn't argue with the hosts 2) there's no reason to discuss cora's posts, especially the ones after he replaced out, anyways. He said and did nothing of value, he made no points that are worth thinking about, his angry posts don't explain reads or do anything that we should pay attention to. The only reason I could see for wanting to discuss those points would be an attempt to derail the town, to worsen the atmosphere, to opt out of the discourse by getting into a shitstorm instead of a good debate about what has been happening. These attempts by you to play cora instead of the game are not acceptable. Nothing cora said is worth discussing, and this is blantantly obvious; you should know this, you DO know this. You're opting out of the discourse, trying to drag me down, trying to drag this game down. you're scum. ##vote kushm4sta | ||
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There is no reason to read cora's filter or think about him for the rest of the game, and any attempt to do so is highly scummy. If you're town, don't do it, it doesn't help us. | ||
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1) town and shot by sebi or scum 2) scum and shot by sebi 3) sebi and shot by scum 4) basically anyone, the final kp that's unaccounted for was scum shooting at an nk-immune sebi so basically we don't no shit and shouldn't speculate about nks | ||
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am suspicious of people who don't like kush but won't vote him | ||
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On December 14 2013 21:37 xigxag wrote: ##vote vayne I am avoiding a possible mod kill with this vote. Actual analysis will follow when I return from work. your cases on vayn and purple are weak and so is your engagement with the town. your lurking is a liability and your broken promises give me no reason to believe that will change. if we had a competent vigi you'd be dead. as it stands I am out of bullets so we do this the hard way. xx will never get shot by mafia. xx will never prove himself town. xx will never help catch scum if he is somehow town. this makes him a massive liability. in the post game we could blame him for being bad but I have a much better solution: ##unvote ##vote xigxag | ||
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you don't have town read on him lynch | ||
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please do same. via phone ATM but iirc this is what I was thinking it: xata highly waffly. I don't like him. is case IMO makes him look worse. if we don't Lynch xx today though when are we going to do it? nobody has an answer for thus. he is a lylobility. don't let him get there. | ||
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xigxag plz guys jesus | ||
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##vote purpletrator | ||
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On December 15 2013 06:38 Plutarch wrote: Does anyone find it odd that after slam scum claimed in the voting he dropped his persona and is now understandable? +1 | ||
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I'm probably being shot tonight, there's probably not a doctor, so i'll do a reread and drop a final set of scumreads. it's been a lot of fun guys, and great job on the PT lynch. All we need to do is carry this home. | ||
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On December 15 2013 11:15 kushm4sta wrote: wow you lynched purple??? i thought he was town lol "solved" | ||
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On December 15 2013 11:58 VayneAuthority wrote: SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap legit here VA is top scum read for this | ||
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On December 15 2013 13:09 Plutarch wrote: doesn't matter; he is scum, he claimed it. I have no dieing wish, no autoeulogy, no final will other than that VA be lynched tomorrow.Show nested quote + On December 15 2013 13:04 VayneAuthority wrote: alakaslam is now the smartest person in the thread, my how times change What did you intend to achieve by claiming scum. Because that is what you did 100 percent. Explain to me the townie motivation for that post? that is all that matters. | ||
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VA claimed scum. not like some kind of rhetorical argument where I'm like "wow Player A, that argument is so bad you figuratively claimed scum" no not like that, VA actually claimed scum, he LITERALLY tried to coordinate his nk with the sk in the thread. On December 15 2013 11:58 VayneAuthority wrote: SK we will shoot blazinghand so don't shoot him aight, don't wanna overlap see that? remember that: remember that if you somehow don't lynch VA tomorrow, when you wonder where you went wrong, how you let scum win-- remember that he claimed scum, and you did nothing lynch VA. there is no excuse not to. | ||
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no excuses. nothing else matter don't like x x either bit he's miner | ||
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On December 16 2013 06:12 Plutarch wrote: Another medic save or the sk was shot? my guess is scum probably thought no more medics. vayne tried to coord with SK.kush saved me. doesn't matter though we lunch vayne ez | ||
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On December 16 2013 06:34 sidesprang wrote: Show nested quote + On December 16 2013 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was kinda hoping you would contribute something? You did the vote stuff on N1 start and gave some weak ass analysis and dropped off the earth for the rest of the phase just to appear on D3 start. Do you have anything constructive to say? If you expect long analysis and stuff from me then you will prolly be dissapointed. I'm not that guy, and i'm not on that level either. I tell what I see, my two biggest scumreads was Vayne and Purple, purple is now confirmed scum and Vayne is looking really bad aswell. About the voting thing I made it because I thought there might be something interesting there. But I was kinda dissapointed when I was done cause I did not really find much, would you rather I keep it secret cause I did not find anything. I still think it's better to share, mb some other guys can find something (or just save time trying to count the votes themselves). The only real point apart from the obvious stuff (you / plut and mb artanis coming out more town) is that I think alakaslam is more likely to be town aswell. I dont think a mafia would have voted that way, he had his vote on xigxag which he could have easily kept there or even pushed for LSB which might had stopped the purp train from even starting. sorry on phone plz link to where purp is conf scum ty | ||
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On December 16 2013 06:41 sidesprang wrote: Show nested quote + On December 16 2013 06:39 Blazinghand wrote: On December 16 2013 06:34 sidesprang wrote: On December 16 2013 06:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: I was kinda hoping you would contribute something? You did the vote stuff on N1 start and gave some weak ass analysis and dropped off the earth for the rest of the phase just to appear on D3 start. Do you have anything constructive to say? If you expect long analysis and stuff from me then you will prolly be dissapointed. I'm not that guy, and i'm not on that level either. I tell what I see, my two biggest scumreads was Vayne and Purple, purple is now confirmed scum and Vayne is looking really bad aswell. About the voting thing I made it because I thought there might be something interesting there. But I was kinda dissapointed when I was done cause I did not really find much, would you rather I keep it secret cause I did not find anything. I still think it's better to share, mb some other guys can find something (or just save time trying to count the votes themselves). The only real point apart from the obvious stuff (you / plut and mb artanis coming out more town) is that I think alakaslam is more likely to be town aswell. I dont think a mafia would have voted that way, he had his vote on xigxag which he could have easily kept there or even pushed for LSB which might had stopped the purp train from even starting. sorry on phone plz link to where purp is conf scum ty He died and he flipped as mafia :O no hes still alive i just reply to him | ||
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y not lynch va he is scum | ||
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On December 14 2013 21:37 xigxag wrote: I am avoiding a possible mod kill with this vote. Actual analysis will follow when I return from work. now wait bh you say, how was his analysis? On December 14 2013 21:39 xigxag wrote: xatalos would be my read of xat by the way. I see some votes on him. He seemed like town or sk, not scum from earlier readong. Just my 2c. yes, that was his analysis 2 minutes later, and since then he has not posted. At all. The fact that any of you find his activity even remotely acceptable is unbe-flipping-lievable. unless someone LITERALLY claims scum, i'm not voting anyone else. | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:14 Xatalos wrote: Right.. Don't you think that LSB has posted barely more than XigXag - and what LSB has posted has been way more suspicious? LSB has posted much more than xigxag in the past day, though his activity is also low. I don't see how this is even remotely relevant though, since nothing is more suspicious than what XigXag is doing. You're either xcum and trying to protect your xcumbuddy or you're being blinded by the availability heuristic. The fact that LSB's post seem more suspicious is not relevant given that xigxag has actually not been posting. You can't say his posts are more suspicious than xigxag's have been, you just remember him posting more and therefore he sticks out in your mind. Get your HEAD IN THE GAME. If LSB seems scummy because he's at least making a trivial effort to play the game, THAT MEANS HE CAN BE ANALYZED. That means he is NOT our lynch for today. You're basically arguing that we should lynch LSB because he's a worse lynch. Come on man. COME ON. | ||
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nobody has a townread on xigxag. You want to know why? the motherflipper has been lurking. We can't rely on a cop in a game with 2 docs and a vigi. We can't rely on anything but the lynch, our best and first tool for destroying scum. You want xig around in LYLO? cuase that's what's gonna happen unless we lynch him before then. Scum sure as dicks aint gonna shoot him. SK won't shoot him since he doesn't know whether he's shooting scum or town when he shoots xig. Xigxag will make it to lylo unless we stop him. The ONLY argument against lynching him that makes sense is "I think he'll get modkilled" but even then we can't rely on it, he is playing to avoid getting modkilled. Everyone's like "well I don't have a scumread on him" but shitake mushrooms, man, that ain't gonna change. What you think he's gonna somehow do something that makes him a townread for you? If so I got a bridge to sell you, real cheap, I promise. Lynch Xigxag. it's the only move. Everyone talks about how we should lynch out the lurkers to avoid BS like this but nobody has the cojones to do it. come on guys. have cojones. make the right play for once. | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:40 Xatalos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2013 03:34 Blazinghand wrote: On December 17 2013 03:14 Xatalos wrote: Right.. Don't you think that LSB has posted barely more than XigXag - and what LSB has posted has been way more suspicious? LSB has posted much more than xigxag in the past day, though his activity is also low. I don't see how this is even remotely relevant though, since nothing is more suspicious than what XigXag is doing. You're either xcum and trying to protect your xcumbuddy or you're being blinded by the availability heuristic. The fact that LSB's post seem more suspicious is not relevant given that xigxag has actually not been posting. You can't say his posts are more suspicious than xigxag's have been, you just remember him posting more and therefore he sticks out in your mind. Get your HEAD IN THE GAME. If LSB seems scummy because he's at least making a trivial effort to play the game, THAT MEANS HE CAN BE ANALYZED. That means he is NOT our lynch for today. You're basically arguing that we should lynch LSB because he's a worse lynch. Come on man. COME ON. I'd think that barely posting above the lurker definition, and being scummy in those few posts, is more scummy than not posting at all....... Okay, great idea, let's not lynch xigxag i'm sure that will just work itself out.... oh wait no the opposite of that | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:46 Xatalos wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2013 03:42 Blazinghand wrote: On December 17 2013 03:40 Xatalos wrote: On December 17 2013 03:34 Blazinghand wrote: On December 17 2013 03:14 Xatalos wrote: Right.. Don't you think that LSB has posted barely more than XigXag - and what LSB has posted has been way more suspicious? LSB has posted much more than xigxag in the past day, though his activity is also low. I don't see how this is even remotely relevant though, since nothing is more suspicious than what XigXag is doing. You're either xcum and trying to protect your xcumbuddy or you're being blinded by the availability heuristic. The fact that LSB's post seem more suspicious is not relevant given that xigxag has actually not been posting. You can't say his posts are more suspicious than xigxag's have been, you just remember him posting more and therefore he sticks out in your mind. Get your HEAD IN THE GAME. If LSB seems scummy because he's at least making a trivial effort to play the game, THAT MEANS HE CAN BE ANALYZED. That means he is NOT our lynch for today. You're basically arguing that we should lynch LSB because he's a worse lynch. Come on man. COME ON. I'd think that barely posting above the lurker definition, and being scummy in those few posts, is more scummy than not posting at all....... Okay, great idea, let's not lynch xigxag i'm sure that will just work itself out.... oh wait no the opposite of that Do you want LSB at LYLO either? Though I agree that it's impossible to analyze XigXag, so it might be safer to lynch him now rather than at LYLO. xigxag is obviously the better lynch today, you have not raised any serious objections to: 1) xigxag will never be readable 2) xigxag will not die unless we lynch him 3) #1 and #2 are more true for xigxag than any other player in this game, so we should lynch him today. | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:57 LSB wrote: Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us. I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused what do you think of xigxag? you have made no posts about him, nor about my current case, other than a (joking?) post about seeing his analysis. | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:59 LSB wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2013 03:59 Blazinghand wrote: On December 17 2013 03:57 LSB wrote: Also, anyone have any idea why Kushmasta was killed? I don't think it is a coincidence that we got two medics blue sniped on us. I'm just reading his filter and incredibly confused what do you think of xigxag? you have made no posts about him, nor about my current case, other than a (joking?) post about seeing his analysis. Xigxag doesn't post and doesn't say anything and made a horrible case. Anyone can see that Thanks! this post is much more useful (imo) than the inconclusive speculation about the kushm4sta kill. | ||
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On December 17 2013 04:06 LSB wrote: o.O seriously? Talking about a lurker is more important than figuring out why we lost 2 doctors already? ....yes? I don't understand what's special about two doctors being dead, or how it helps us get a lynch. They weren't even "sniped" as you claim since: Doctor #1, holyflare, was shot by my predecessor. Doctor #2, kushm4sta, was shot by the SK. so... mafia have killed 0 doctors so far. The SK might have even been aiming for scum, who knows? Who cares? how is it even a little bit important? get your head in the game | ||
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even the so-called "wagon" on xata has only 2 votes. i don't get why you're not playing this like you did here (link). I'd like a better explanation than you just gave. | ||
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On December 17 2013 09:14 LSB wrote: I lynch people who I think are scum. It's as simple as that. but not the person you think is most likely to flip scum? you're not lynching anyone. | ||
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On December 17 2013 09:31 LSB wrote: I believe we have difference in how we play mafia. My play revolves around identifying who I think is scum and then going after them. If I doubt that they are scum, I remove them off of my list and no longer go after them. I do not relish the concept of lynching someone who I think is town, and unless I am consolidating my vote to a major candidate I will no push someone who I think may be town. Alakaslam is safer because we caught him lying, while Xatalos is more of a read based on day 1 play. I still think both of them are scum and would be willing to lynch either. Nor do I want you to forget SideSprang. right, I follow your logic entirely. the part where you lose me is the part where, halfway through this day, you vote xata or alak even though you think alak is more likely to be scum (or in your words, "safer") based on a xata "wagon" of 2 votes. why not push your top scumread and say you're willing to lynch xata, like you did yesterday? | ||
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On December 16 2013 13:57 Alakaslam wrote: Well... Anyway I am confident anyone who reads me will find my alignment. I have explained all my motives. I was thinking, next most likely to be scum at one point was LSB. I thought he might be more likely to produce info than vayne but now he has gone done been scummy. Again. Shalt be as I hoped sir LSB? Xata I have been suspicious of early and have since dropped it. I forget why. I may go read him. If you think I am scummy, vote me and state why in that post so I can react-defend, thank you in advance. | ||
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Like let me phrase it this way Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak | ||
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On December 17 2013 10:01 LSB wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote: I like your explanation for why alak is scum, I just think that it still applies even if Xata is town. Like let me phrase it this way Imagine all possible worlds in which Alak is town. In some of those worlds, Xata is also scum, but it not ALL of those possible worlds. Xata's scumminess seems to be (at least via your thought process; I could be wrong) a function of alak's scumminess, which means it's less likely Xat is scum than Alak Both of my cases are independent of each other. So it doesn't apply in this case But yes, should one of my cases be dependent on the other being scum (A is scum if B is scum) (ie PYP mafia day 3) I am more willing to lynch B first, and then A. I'd prefer we stop this discussion simply because it has little relevance to what is actually going on in this game. I am more than happy to take it to PMs or postgame if you want to chat about optimal mafia play. Should you wish to defend Xata I am all ears in case it's not clear i'm also trying to discern your alignment and your veracity. whether or not you really believe what you're saying, or if i've caught you in an inconsistency and you're trying to chalk it up to "tomato tomato" | ||
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That account was created on 2006-07-02 16:52:39 and had 8333 posts. Reason: Come on dude. I hate banning you, because you're a cool guy, but you've been consistently riling up people in TLMafia, its ok to disagree, but please do so with logical arguments as opposed to disruptive behavior. Thanks. | ||
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people talk about policy lynching lurkers but nobody has the brass ones to actually do it. come on guys, what are you gonna do, hope the kid gets modkilled? join me. you don't have a townread on xig. you never will. we need to take out the trash | ||
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On December 17 2013 03:02 Blazinghand wrote: unless someone LITERALLY claims scum, i'm not voting anyone else. On December 17 2013 21:14 Xatalos wrote: Btw SK, we kill Plutarch tonight, so please kill rayn Town wins if they live ##unvote ##vote Xatalos | ||
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I guess he's the better policy lynch | ||
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still xat claimed scum so we Lynch him | ||
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On December 18 2013 05:58 Grackaroni wrote: I just can't believe that you don't think my claim is real. And this is important. I have absolutely no clue why your only goal this game is to policy XigXag. its just one goal. I have others. | ||
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On December 18 2013 12:56 Plutarch wrote: No you will check who town tells you. | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:33 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2013 13:30 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 13:27 Grackaroni wrote: But if you really feel the need to prove yourself, tell me: On December 18 2013 13:15 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 13:11 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah he wanted you to explain that LSB. You really shouldn't care who I check Plutarch. I just want you to check who town requests so that you can't manipulate anything behind the scenes. It really should not be a problem for you to just check who confirmed town blazinghand requests. What VT would worry about me manipulating checks when I'm already set to vote you tomorrow regardless. It only matters who I check if I'm actually a cop and get confirmed by your flip. No. I don't know what you could be planning. It is well known to good players that in a disputed claim such as this town decides the checks. For the good of the land. That's not the point lol. If I'm not a cop why would you care who I check. my vote is going to be on your tomorrow regardless of who I would be "checking" and then I would be proven false after your flip. That is how you slipped. ok grack I get it if you don't want to listen to plutarch, or even anyone whose laignment you don't know but surely you and I can discuss your check together, yes? | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:37 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2013 13:36 Blazinghand wrote: On December 18 2013 12:56 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 12:55 Grackaroni wrote: Also I will check who I want. No you will check who town tells you. Nobody told me to check Plutarch and look how that worked out. ok, fair enough, but I would like to note that the reason nobody told you to check Plutarch is because, at that time, you had not yet claimed cop. How could I have known to tell you to check anyone at all, much less Plutarch? | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:41 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2013 13:36 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 13:33 Grackaroni wrote: On December 18 2013 13:30 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 13:27 Grackaroni wrote: But if you really feel the need to prove yourself, tell me: On December 18 2013 13:15 Plutarch wrote: On December 18 2013 13:11 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah he wanted you to explain that LSB. You really shouldn't care who I check Plutarch. I just want you to check who town requests so that you can't manipulate anything behind the scenes. It really should not be a problem for you to just check who confirmed town blazinghand requests. What VT would worry about me manipulating checks when I'm already set to vote you tomorrow regardless. It only matters who I check if I'm actually a cop and get confirmed by your flip. No. I don't know what you could be planning. It is well known to good players that in a disputed claim such as this town decides the checks. For the good of the land. That's not the point lol. If I'm not a cop why would you care who I check. my vote is going to be on your tomorrow regardless of who I would be "checking" and then I would be proven false after your flip. That is how you slipped. No the point is that you do what town says. I know you are a liar but the rest of the town doesn't so to prevent any manipulation or in case I am lying I want you to listen to the town. This prevents things like saying you will check someone and then night killing that person. But if we tell you to check Xigxag and you night kill them then that is fine. Almost like a vig shot. "I don't want to expose myself. I am going to hope Grack isn't really a cop. If he is cop then don't lynch me because I am acting in the interest of town!" Even after I "made up" a check on you, you think I'm afraid of making up a check on somebody else. stop talking to him. he doesn't matter. let's work together. | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:42 Grackaroni wrote: Alright let's talk it out. ok so my initial thought was checking xigxag but now i'm having second thoughts on it. advantages: > xigxag will not be readable at any point in this game I like that we could use a check on him since we don't have vigis and we can't trust scum/sk to kill him disadvantages: > there is a non-trivial chance xigxag gets modkilled. >the fact that he hasn't been modkilled yet is soft evidence that he is actually town; my new position is to not check xigxag. what do you think? | ||
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artanis lsb jjd sidesprang rayn alakaslam I recommend we pare this list down to 3 names, and you choose (randomly) from within those 3 so scum can't just nk the townie we check or whatever. How does that sound? | ||
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On December 18 2013 13:49 JarJarDrinks wrote: BTW, Plu wants Grack to check Xigxag because Plu thinks Xigxag is town. Which makes it more unlikely that scum kills Grack. Plu is afraid that if Grack doesn't telegraph who he's checking, scum will kill him to prevent a red check. Unless someone else has another idea why Plu would be so concerned about who Grack says he's checking? I think Plu just doesn't want Grack to "waste" a check on, say, an obvtown guy like me or something. Assuming Plu is telling the truth and Grack is lying (one of them must be lying, of course), then Plu wants Grack to be forced to check whoever it is that strains Grack's lying ability the most. If Plu is lying, he's trying to act like a truth-telling Plu. | ||
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alaka has been kinda on xig's ass, could be playing to his fake "worship bh" persona rayn cause he's a sly mofo and he's gotten better since the last time I caught him as scum, or is town, not sure LSB cause people think LSB is scum and I don't, which means there's enough confusion he's worth a check what were you thinking? | ||
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sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then? | ||
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On December 18 2013 14:08 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2013 14:07 Blazinghand wrote: i like sidesprang on that list for sure actually, i can't generate a good read on him sidesprang lsb alakaslam as the group to check into, then? I'm fine with checking in to that group. excellent! Don't announce exactly which one you're checking, btw, until exactly at the deadline. This way scum can't preempt you by nking your target. I'm not sure whether it's important you announce your check target before the flip vs after the flip since it's not like announcing it beforehand gives the scum-version of you any disadvantages. other people can weigh in on this part though | ||
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fwiw there is a non-trivial chance there's a 2nd cop. I'd be srprised if we had 2 cops, but it's not impossible. | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:01 Grackaroni wrote: if that CC was going to happen it would have happened by now. If there was a 2nd cop it should be pretty obvious. Don't be fucking stupid. If you are lying there is no reason the real cop should claim until 1min before deadline and you know it. the real cop should claim much, much closer to the deadline than 60 seconds. | ||
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Ultimately he's not doing the obvious thing like pretending to be drunk or pushing a no lynch or anything weird like that so I don't think he's a good lynch for tomorrow | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote: On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like here is the deal: Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day. Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day. Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario. No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that. If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline. wat | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:08 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 04:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 19 2013 04:06 Grackaroni wrote: On December 19 2013 04:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: Like here is the deal: Grack is real cop -> there is not gonna be a CC. We lynch Plutarch the next day. Grack is lying -> there is a counter-claim at the deadline, we lynch Grack the next day. Plutarch could still be SK in the second scenario. No chance of scum counterclaiming me tomorrow? Come on Rayn you are better than that. If someone CC's you tomorrow we lynch them, because they have been told to claim before deadline. wat Because scum need 1 mislynch. If Grack is town it might actually be good to cc him tomorrow to get a lynch on Grack, then get a lynch on SK. Oh, so you're saying we could reasonably expect a cop claim from a scum player, or an SK player, so we want to have them claim before the deadline rather than after, so that there is a risk of being proven wrong by the other faction's KP. I like that | ||
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1) a check on a dead guy 2) an SK check on a guy who's not the mafia we lynched which is pretty much the most useful claim for scum to make. | ||
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The scumteam shot Plutarch, the nk-immune SK, and so they know he's the SK. They can only kill him with a lynch. Grack claims cop with an SK check on Plu. We lynch Plu, he flips SK, now we all think Grack is the cop. Grack claims a redcheck on someone else, wam bam thank you ma'am ez win for scum | ||
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at least there's no chanc ethat both grack AND plu are town so there's that | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:48 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:45 Blazinghand wrote: I actually think there's also a non-trivial chance, btw, that both plutarch AND grack are lying. The scumteam shot Plutarch, the nk-immune SK, and so they know he's the SK. They can only kill him with a lynch. Grack claims cop with an SK check on Plu. We lynch Plu, he flips SK, now we all think Grack is the cop. Grack claims a redcheck on someone else, wam bam thank you ma'am ez win for scum I got medic protected twice in a row. But sure If I'm still alive and I don't catch the serial killer by lylo then town should consider lynching me. oh, I didn't see the crumbs. I just assumed the medics were protecting me, the confirmed town and best player in this game, but I could be wrong | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:51 JarJarDrinks wrote: Rayn and BH. You do both agree that if there's no counterclaim, we kill Plu correct? depends | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:51 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:49 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 04:48 Plutarch wrote: On December 19 2013 04:45 Blazinghand wrote: I actually think there's also a non-trivial chance, btw, that both plutarch AND grack are lying. The scumteam shot Plutarch, the nk-immune SK, and so they know he's the SK. They can only kill him with a lynch. Grack claims cop with an SK check on Plu. We lynch Plu, he flips SK, now we all think Grack is the cop. Grack claims a redcheck on someone else, wam bam thank you ma'am ez win for scum I got medic protected twice in a row. But sure If I'm still alive and I don't catch the serial killer by lylo then town should consider lynching me. oh, I didn't see the crumbs. I just assumed the medics were protecting me, the confirmed town and best player in this game, but I could be wrong Lol Blazinghand how about the third best player in the game at best. Clearly you aren't even reading the thread. Hue. am best player | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: Holyflare's crunb was quite clearly pointed out at some point. About kush idk. yeah i'm mor ethinking about last night, I figured I was the one protected as the conftown and best player in game | ||
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On December 19 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Grack on the other hand crumbed his checks after he did them. What say you o'wise Blazinghand; proper way to crumb? when I play DT, I have this philosophy: rolecrumb is meaningless actioncrumb is meaningless resultcrumb is meaningful, it should be very very soon after the start of the day it is the only good philosophy, other philosophies are bad | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:00 Plutarch wrote: Go read holyflares filter. I didn't actually see a crumb from kush but as I know scum shot me twice and I know I am vanilla town I know he medic protected me. you got informed that scum shot you? | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:01 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 04:59 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 04:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 19 2013 04:57 Blazinghand wrote: so where are theese medic crumbs? Holyflare's crunb was quite clearly pointed out at some point. About kush idk. yeah i'm mor ethinking about last night, I figured I was the one protected as the conftown and best player in game Sorry blazinghand but you are not the best player in the game. Why do you keep saying that. It is annoying. you were informed that scum shot you? | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:03 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:00 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:00 Plutarch wrote: On December 19 2013 04:57 Blazinghand wrote: so where are theese medic crumbs? Go read holyflares filter. I didn't actually see a crumb from kush but as I know scum shot me twice and I know I am vanilla town I know he medic protected me. you got informed that scum shot you? No. Please read the game. I read through Xatalos' filter and he says something like. "Well as the medic is dead scum are going to kill plutarch tonight" So you don't know that you got shot, you have the word of a dead scum player to back up the possibility that you were shot. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:04 Plutarch wrote: I'v posted all the reasoning behind these assumptions already. So last night there's no evidence that kush actually saved you, and WIFOM-ey evidence that Xatalos' team shot you. This seems more to indicate that you're the SK (as grack says he checked you) than anything else. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:06 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:04 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:03 Plutarch wrote: On December 19 2013 05:00 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:00 Plutarch wrote: On December 19 2013 04:57 Blazinghand wrote: so where are theese medic crumbs? Go read holyflares filter. I didn't actually see a crumb from kush but as I know scum shot me twice and I know I am vanilla town I know he medic protected me. you got informed that scum shot you? No. Please read the game. I read through Xatalos' filter and he says something like. "Well as the medic is dead scum are going to kill plutarch tonight" So you don't know that you got shot, you have the word of a dead scum player to back up the possibility that you were shot. I think it is pretty obvious. Xatalos said that scum were shooting plu before he was caught. Then scum misses their second shot and xatalos whinges about medics being OP and tries to coordinate my death AGAIN with the sk. Or you're the SK. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:09 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:07 Artanis[Xp] wrote: On December 19 2013 05:07 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:05 Artanis[Xp] wrote: Presuming Xatalos didn't try to WIFOM us by wanting Rayn/Plutarch shot and leaving BH alive, I'd say that makes Xigxag look slightly better in terms of not being scum because BH was the only one interested in actively pushing his policy lynch. Opinions? XigXag has a pretty good chance of flipping town. I strongly recommend against lynching him. We're past the time for a policy lynch; we missed our opportunity. If he's scum, we lose, if he's town, we have a chance to win. That's all we can do. You wouldn't even want to lynch him if everyone else looks townier than him and he stays (near-)afk? I'd want to lynch him, for sure. It's a hard call to make. But at this point we have bigger fish on the table. There is 1+ scum between grack and plutarch; that situation demands our attention. It's entirely plausible that Plutarch is town, and same for Grack. Let's talk about them. Talk about them. Talk about them. Let's talk about them. Talk about Plutarch and Grack Let's talk about Plutarch and Grack. At least one of them is scum One of Plu and grack is scum. let's talk about them. I already see plenty of talk on them and all these scenarios flying around. I think flips will give us a lot of clarity. If Plutarch flips then the decision is already made. If he doesn't, then presuming a CC comes we'll have so much more information then than we do now that I see little reason to speculate about it right now. If no CC comes that's a ton of information too. There's one scum within Plutarch and Grack. Talking about them now forces people (like you) to stake out positions before the flips / check results. We should talk about plu and grack | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:11 Plutarch wrote: If I am town and get lynched would town lose? barring some weird cases with like scum and sk shooting each other I believe so, yes. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:14 Plutarch wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:12 Blazinghand wrote: On December 19 2013 05:11 Plutarch wrote: If I am town and get lynched would town lose? barring some weird cases with like scum and sk shooting each other I believe so, yes. How convenient for a fake claiming cop. if town wasn't in MYLO this would not be worth it for scum to fake claim. yeah in general I am in favor of lynching Grack, even if he's not counterclaimed | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:32 JarJarDrinks wrote: Show nested quote + Then Ur terrible @ this game.On December 19 2013 05:15 Blazinghand wrote: yeah in general I am in favor of lynching Grack, even if he's not counterclaimed If grack is counterclaimed, that doesn't make it any more likely that he's scum... town grack gets counterclaimed by scum as easily as scum grack gets counterclaimed by town. It's even plausible that a scum grack wouldn't be counterclaimed and that we don't have a cop, or that our cop is xigxag or something. Grack should be lynche dnot based on CC but based on the badness of his claim | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:39 Plutarch wrote: Our cop should counterclaim now if night actions aren't being changed. true; but we're not sure that's the case. | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: No! if you are a cop claim at the last second!! rayn is correct | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:40 Grackaroni wrote: I have no idea if night actions are getting swapped so I won't share. I wouldn't allow it. I won't be changing my actions. awwwwwwwwwww | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:40 Grackaroni wrote: Btw I'm not the cop. Cop don't claim! I'm all anti-SK now. ._. ;________; | ||
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On December 19 2013 05:42 Grackaroni wrote: Show nested quote + On December 19 2013 05:41 Blazinghand wrote: so it seems like the scum strat this game is to claim scum, which i'm fine with. lynch grack imo I can be of use to youuuuu! ![]() yes, you can vote for yourself; this is true | ||
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He is the last mafia, we reduce the kp by one. ez ez ez ez ez | ||
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On December 19 2013 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: Not Blazinghand. ![]() yeah man I got this covered I like how plutarch is all like "oh bh isn't the best player ever" but man plutarch assuming you're actually town, of course YOU knew grack was lying I was willing to lynch an uncounterclaimed grack. aint nobody got shit on me scum's been trying to shoot me all game cause I'm the best, and medics have been saving me also, since, well, i'm the best heyo | ||
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On December 19 2013 08:53 LSB wrote: Also, if I was SK why would I shoot Artanis? Wiform I know but it just doesn't make sense So you could make this post | ||
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all I do is show up and carry town on my huge back; like every game I catch scum constantly. I don't even know how I do it, the reasons I think people are scum are never the same as the reasons I use to convince people. The fact of the matter is that my town play is so good most people figure out whether i'm town or scum on whether or not I catch scum; as town I always do, and as scum I don't (though maybe I should bus more). Contemplate that, think about that fact, that's how good I am as town, that's how I can non ironically straight up call myself the best player in most games I play. I am the best. I carry town. It's what I do. I'm so good that my towntell is catching all the scum and somehow I get crap for this! People are like "oh bh doesn't care" or "wow bh is trolling wtf" and so on, but people just aren't on my LEVEL you guys gotta get on my level | ||
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On December 19 2013 22:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Blazinghand instead of bragging about how good you are could you play the game please. bragging how good I am *is* playing the game | ||
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On December 20 2013 08:22 LSB wrote: JJD or Sidesprang wana claim vig? I am vt though wat | ||
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today 6-1-1 tonight it will be 6-1 tomorrow it will be 5-1 so we have a mislynch so if anyone wants to counterclaim me, BY ALL MEANS GO AHEAD | ||
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On December 20 2013 10:12 Grackaroni wrote: I am the real vigilante. Blazinghand is full of shit. Show nested quote + On December 20 2013 09:16 Blazinghand wrote: I'll even volunteer to get lynched first then we can lynch the counterclaimer You wouldn't go back on your word now would you BH? That would be quite deceitful of you. sure, if you can get the votes, go right ahead! I won't even bother responding to your claim other than this post ![]() | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:26 Grackaroni wrote: They have to hit the cop instead of you. yeah but i'm operating under the assumption there is no cop. If there is in fact a cop, he should and he WILL claim in 24.5 hours JUST before the day begins, seconds before, with his check results; alternatively, he has crumbed really really well and won't bother claiming since when he flips we'll know what his checks were | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: No shit.. BH.. fuck you. I... what? I was just pointing out the cop shouldn't claim yet. Don't want anyone to be confused | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:49 raynpelikoneet wrote: Does SK check as scum? depends on which power he used, right? he could return town if he picked the cuddliness power | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah i thought you implied SK checks as mafia in case they chose BP which is not correct. SK has one of two powers, which he chooses at game start and can't change. either: 1) he is bulletproof and cannot be shot OR 2) he returns green to checks we don't know which one he is, so a green check on someone does not exonerrate them, but we can trust a red check | ||
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On December 21 2013 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 21 2013 05:55 Blazinghand wrote: On December 21 2013 05:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah i thought you implied SK checks as mafia in case they chose BP which is not correct. SK has one of two powers, which he chooses at game start and can't change. either: 1) he is bulletproof and cannot be shot OR 2) he returns green to checks we don't know which one he is, so a green check on someone does not exonerrate them, but we can trust a red check Yes, but you said: Show nested quote + On December 21 2013 05:38 Blazinghand wrote: but yeah since the sk may have investigation immunity, a green check is meaningless, it's a red check that matters SK shows as SK, not mafia, in case they chose BP. I thought you said they'll show as mafia (red) which was confusing. but they won't return red if they are cuddely | ||
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