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On December 10 2013 05:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 05:25 Onegu wrote:
Will make a case on jsoniv at somepoint in the near future. As I dont like alot of his posts and contridictions.
weeeee speaking of cases against me, where's gtrsrs?
Also, you had said that you'd post reads on groups of 5 people at a time.
On December 08 2013 16:22 Onegu wrote:
Anyway Im going to start my filterdives now. I think I group things into five and post my note/thoughts each time I finish 5 people.
So I expect to see 4 people along with me.
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On December 10 2013 06:19 ticklishmusic wrote:
Nm, the lantern is a day ability my bad
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On December 10 2013 06:34 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:33 Mig wrote:On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:
1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora
2. I knew he used Riposte that night
3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand
Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread. thank you. @mig: Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now? I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him. I really have no clue, if his powers only require pms why did he say anything in thread at all? The only logical explanation for it I have is either A) he is just being an idiot and decided to fuck around (which seems possible considering he hasn't even argued to try and save himself at all). or B) they have some sort of power which can fuck up the lynch. This would be a nightmare. Why do you think he used his power and why claim it in thread? Also what do you think of VE? Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe the Mafia team has Amumu which means they can stack antivotes on someone. If they do, then we should really consolidate on Coag or someone to avoid a forced mislynch of the person with the second most votes. Re: B I propose we stack votes on M_Z with a couple votes less on Coag.
The fact that we kept Roffles alive yesterday pisses me off enough. Now you want to keep Coag alive?
Look, if we're gonna be serious about dealing with people who have made this game absolute shit, then Coag should die today. Put that fact on top of his mega inferno bomb, and he's dying.
##unvote
##vote Coag
Koshi, please do good things tonight.
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On December 10 2013 06:50 ticklishmusic wrote:
*shrug*
if it turns out coag is town, then i'll be be able to excuse this loss because of RL scum not playing for their win conditions
agreed wholeheartedly
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On December 10 2013 06:51 ticklishmusic wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 06:46 jcarlsoniv wrote:On December 10 2013 06:34 ticklishmusic wrote:On December 10 2013 06:33 Mig wrote:On December 10 2013 06:24 supersoft wrote:On December 10 2013 05:25 ticklishmusic wrote:
Okay Rayn, let me see if I'm following your thought process here:
1. I knew that Sandro had Fiora
2. I knew he used Riposte that night
3. Despite that, I attacked him so I could get a bajillion damage reflected back at me because of super scummy mafia reasons that you don't understand
Maybe supersoft knows this because, Idunno, he reads the thread. thank you. @mig: Given Coag is scum - what I am fairly convinced he is - why do you think he used his power right now? I mean he wasn't in more danger than gtrsrs or roffels (if one of them is town) to get lynched. His lurking is equally scummy and I guess the scumteam should have been a fair chance to save him. I really have no clue, if his powers only require pms why did he say anything in thread at all? The only logical explanation for it I have is either A) he is just being an idiot and decided to fuck around (which seems possible considering he hasn't even argued to try and save himself at all). or B) they have some sort of power which can fuck up the lynch. This would be a nightmare. Why do you think he used his power and why claim it in thread? Also what do you think of VE? On December 10 2013 06:28 ticklishmusic wrote:
Maybe the Mafia team has Amumu which means they can stack antivotes on someone. If they do, then we should really consolidate on Coag or someone to avoid a forced mislynch of the person with the second most votes. Re: B I propose we stack votes on M_Z with a couple votes less on Coag. The fact that we kept Roffles alive yesterday pisses me off enough. Now you want to keep Coag alive? Look, if we're gonna be serious about dealing with people who have made this game absolute shit, then Coag should die today. Put that fact on top of his mega inferno bomb, and he's dying. ##unvote
##vote CoagKoshi, please do good things tonight. The idea was if we stack on M_Z, either we burn the antivotes, M_Z is confirmed scum and Coag dies, or M_Z dies without intervention. Coag is less valuable because he's used what I assume is a oneshot nuke and is obvious confirmed scum.
But if M_Z happens to be town, then we left Coag alive for no reason and he could do more stuff tonight.
Ziggs - Bouncing Bomb - Ziggs has tons of crazy explosives in his arsenal, but they don't always act how he wants them to. Each night you may deal damage to target player. The bomb then bounces off of that player onto another random player and does a decreased amount of damage.
This isn't exactly something I want to leave around for any longer than necessary.
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On December 10 2013 08:00 kushm4sta wrote:
it saves me the trouble of having to read his filter also if he flips scum I will be confirmed town.
nah, that just means you're a dick
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On December 10 2013 09:12 gtrsrs wrote:
my time is scarce atm
i find coagulation's actions quite strange
this game feels over to me anyway
##vote: coagulation
booooooooooooooooooooo
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nyxnyxnyx LSB
Koshi
marvellosity mkfuba07
justanothertownie
sandroba
So:
MarvMcFuba - 400
JAT - 200
Koshi - 200
LSB - 100
sandroba - 100
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That seems a bit convoluted Mocsta, but I think we're thinking along the same vein.
Koshi, are you making anything useful tonight
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On December 10 2013 20:34 Onegu wrote:
@Koshi stop, if you are town you know this will start a flame war so why do it.
Not sure what you are seeing with the mocsta, explain for someone who is mentally hampered at the moment.
Any chance you've gathered your 5 reads? You promised it 2 days ago.
You also promised a case on me yesterday, do you have that for our review?
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On December 10 2013 22:30 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 20:34 Onegu wrote:
@Koshi stop, if you are town you know this will start a flame war so why do it.
Not sure what you are seeing with the mocsta, explain for someone who is mentally hampered at the moment. Any chance you've gathered your 5 reads? You promised it 2 days ago. You also promised a case on me yesterday, do you have that for our review?
Cuz the longer you wait to deliver on things promised, the more I think you're scum Onegu.
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On December 10 2013 23:06 kushm4sta wrote:
modkill plz?
my friend is retarded FOR REAL and im hella offended atm.
times like these:
+ Show Spoiler +
just stop arguing, it's doing nothing for us
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no, we don't have to push modkills at all because that's a dick thing to do
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Lantern does not roleblock.
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On December 09 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
That being said the only person who should visit us next night is a possible watcher. In case they see someone visiting us they are likely scum. If a tracker sees someone visiting us they are likely scum.
Rayn, this is why you don't have a lantern. They can't watch you if they can't target you.
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Koshi, are you making things tonight?
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On December 11 2013 00:20 Mig wrote:
People yelling at koshi about the ambulance radio are being dumb. Police radio was discussed n2 and sandroba said it was a bad idea. We have almost no investigative roles if koshi had a police radio you would have seen that our only dt decided it would be a good idea to check the guy who can block himself off for 2 cycles.
2 phases. Assuming things work logically, his parity check should hit me tonight, and he'll get the result in the morning.
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On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote:
Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic.
Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp.
I just want some sort of investigative capabilities...
Parity cop on its own is weak in my mind because it takes a minimum of 2 nights to work. The fact that it was used on me last night is incredibly unfortunate.
We have been struggling in a sea of so much unknown for way too long. Having any additional way to actually get accurate alignments would be beyond helpful.
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On December 11 2013 00:49 Mocsta wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 00:40 Koshi wrote:
My first item was pretty cool if it had been inthread activated. But like I said hosts changed it and I only knew they had done "slight modifications". If I had known they would make it a night action I would have thought twice giving it to marv. Sad story.
I can't make dayvig guns so don't hope for that. I could make a new detective item but I won't. You shall see tomorrow. You won't be impressed. But it's not bad. ehh???? Show nested quote +On December 04 2013 17:44 Koshi wrote:Here is the list of items that I sent to the hosts yesterday. Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs). My intention was that all these were really items that you hold till the end of the game, some items with passive benefits and then items you have to activate and with a 1/2/3/4 turn CD. But hosts don't want that. If you think you like one of these items let me know and you might get selected. yay! + Show Spoiler +1. Gem of True Sight
The holder is notified everytime somebody visits him.
2. Eul's Scepter of Divinity
Puts a cyclone under somebody his ass. Protecting him from any damage and RBs him (Jailer)
3. Dust of Appearance
Shows all visitors that visited you or the 2 players around you on the player list. (2 uses)
4. Aegis of the Immortal
Revives you when you die with half hp and without debuffs.
5. Ring of Protection
Reduces any damage done to you by 50%
6. Dagon lvl 5
Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun)
7. Scythe of Vyse
Turns your target into a sheep, rbing him.
8. Armlet of Mordiggian
Doubles your HP when activated. But you lose 200 HP each cycle.
9. Refresher Orb
When activated you can use your night action 2 times in the same night.
10. Urn of Shadows
Heal target player for 333 hp each cycle for 5 cycles, if target takes damage it loses the healing buff the next cycle. This item starts with 2 charges and each time a scummer dies you get +1 charge.
11. Mekanism
Heals you and the 2 players around you on the player list for 500 hp.
12. Skull Basher
Damages target player for 500 damage and also stunning target player. (RB)
13. Talisman of Evasion
You have 50% chance to evade all incoming damage.
14. Black King Bar
Makes you immune to spells, but not mafia night kp.
15. Ghost Scepter
Makes you immune to mafia night kp, but spells do double damage.
16. Shadow Blade
When activated you are you immune from damage/spells for 1 turn unless dust is used on you. Or you visit the player that is holding a gem.
17. Pipe of Insight
You and the 2 people around you on the player list have a protection shield around you that protects them from maximum 500 damage. Tonight I will look for some more normal items. Like a dayvig dual gun. I would like to make that as well. " Most of them are approved with slight adjustments (read nerfs)." + 6. Dagon lvl 5 Insta gibs somebody. (dayvig gun)
I completely missed that Koshi post.
Koshi, why was your intention to make items that you hold til end game? How does that help town at all?
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On December 11 2013 01:01 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 00:51 Mocsta wrote:On December 11 2013 00:48 LSB wrote:@@ Sandroba Attn plz On December 11 2013 00:40 Onegu wrote:On December 11 2013 00:37 LSB wrote:On December 11 2013 00:28 raynpelikoneet wrote:On December 11 2013 00:23 LSB wrote:
Ambulance radio wasn't that bad of an idea considering we verified ticklishmusic.
Kush, what I would like to see is some KP power for the town, easiest way to flush out lurkers without wasting lynch kp. Except that we did not verify him. Unless an SK is in the game, taking (basically) killing amounts of KP is good enough of verification for me, unless someone steps up to claim the hit No they are saying he could be mafia who used the faction kp on sandaroba and it got shot back at him. I looked through Sandroba's filter and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage (and he also assumes that ticklemusic was shot with something else), and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, so I am inclined not to assume that he shot sandroba. Explain: and it seems like mafia KP works as an overkill, Show nested quote +On December 10 2013 00:56 sandroba wrote:
Ok so that ambulance radio prob doesnt show the overkill that might have happened to chezinu, so that would explain the odd kp number. My guess is that scum prob didn't use anything on me this night. Show nested quote +Further, this is dumb LSB (even for you)
" and I don't think I see that he claimed any current HP to suggest the damage "
If the dmg was reflected, OF COURSE, sandroba would not have been hit for dmg.... Sandroba never claimed that he has 749 HP.
Correct, Sandro hasn't claimed his hp.
Ticklish said he took 849 - 100 (because of heal) = 749. Confirmed by ambulance.
N1 Sandro took 1 damage. Being Fiora, one of the squishier champs, and based off of other flips, it is entirely feasible that he has 850 hp total. We will accept this as true for the case of this conjecture.
Even if there was overkill kp on him, 849 would be the killing blow. If he had reflected, it would logically follow that he would reflect back 849 damage.
Now, there are issues:
-Riposte says that it reflects an ability, not an action. So I don't know if it would reflect a faction kill.
-If it was a reflected ability, then it would have been a HUGE damage reflected ability.
-If ticklish is, in fact, Taric, why would the damage get reflected back at him. We still don't know Taric's ult, which worries me, but I'm not sure this would be something that would cause it to be reflected at him.
This is speculation and can be easily refuted by a couple of things:
-Sandro actually stating what his life total is. Kha'zix flipped with 900, and both being assassins, I would expect them to have similar HP levels. This would give scum a more accurate target to hit though, so I don't know if I like this.
-A way to check ticklish's alignment. Getting hit by a huge amount of damage like that can point either way, especially considering it's such a weird number like 849
It logically makes sense in my head, but there are holes in it. It is based on an estimation of sandro's life total, but there is still so much unknown that we have to deal with.
On December 11 2013 01:10 VisceraEyes wrote:
##DEMACIA!!!
oh dear god lol
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