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On October 30 2013 00:07 Seuss wrote:


I'm only using hastags for people who I feel very confident are town. I don't have a strong read on you either way at the moment (Clarity is elitist as a reason for training him? What?), so I'm holding off.

I'm very much with marvellosity on the whole "We have a bunch of people will revealed powers, are they really all town?" question. I've got my fingers crossed that [UoN]Sentinel didn't ride the crazy train into a fully charged one-shot mafia power.

On October 30 2013 00:02 marvellosity wrote:
##Update Koshi

There you go, twinkletoes.

On October 31 2013 19:44 marvellosity wrote:
Koshi, normally I think your cases are the worst things I ever set eyes on, but that seems to make some sense. I'll filter him a little later with what you've just said in mind.

Have you thought about how Seuss dealt with his voting power/counterclaim with WoS/surrounding stuff with that?

On October 31 2013 03:03 WaveofShadow wrote:

(1) On one hand I think Rayn has actively been trying not to be as shout-y as he has been. Thug life is a good example I think.

(2) On the other...I really AM surprised I was able to actually convince HIM of all people at the end of D1. If there's somebody who latches on against all odds, it's him.

(3) About Rayn's power and the circumstances surrounding it---do you agree it is a townRayn-like thing to try and make plays?

On October 31 2013 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:

Alright, I guess I have to grant you guys that in terms of what you saw, but my feelings at the time were that I was doing everything in my power in the very short period of time that I had which included attempting to eat lunch while defending myself, trying to come up with some half-assed scumread without being able to properly filter dive, and respond to people. I had already resigned to my death the second time around because I hadn't even expected to be able to come back so I was much calmer---i think that's pretty obvious by the tone of my posts.

On October 31 2013 19:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:

This is WoS' answer to you marv:
1) seems town
2) hmm, okay i agree that's weird
3) seems town

On October 31 2013 19:58 Koshi wrote:
They can both remove votes atm. It's so fucking sick if they are both scum...... Fuck.

On October 31 2013 20:01 marvellosity wrote:
Just from a game setup perspective, it makes sense to have 2 vote altering powers on townside and 1 on mafia. 2 for mafia seems pretty sick.

On October 30 2013 02:04 Seuss wrote:


To elaborate, you guys move a lot faster than I've been prepared for and I've been struggling to keep up. Combined with a fair amount of scrutiny I've spent more than defending myself and reading then hunting scum.

So let me do something important here.

##Encourage marvellosity

Astute eyes probably picked up on the fact that I had a power from one of my most scrutinized posts. At one point I incorrectly assumed that everyone had powers. It's a basic logical step.

I'm counter-claiming WaveofShadow here somewhat. My power adds +1 to a player's vote. Given that Pandain can allegedly nullify someone's vote entirely it's not complete madness to think there are multiple voting powers around, but WaveofShadow's is too close to mine for me to be comfortable with it.

On October 30 2013 02:50 Seuss wrote:
I would like to prospose, so long as Wave doesn't continue his suicidal streak, that we arrange for a test of our voting powers, and lynch [UoN]Sentinel pending verification of said powers in tonight's vote.

I've selected [UoN]Sentinel for a few reasons. To summarize, he's obtained a power that he allegedly can't explain, when everyone else seems to have a clear understanding of their powers. He's defended his evasiveness on the grounds that he thought people would second guess themselves if his power didn't activate, when people started second guessing themselves because no one knows what his power does. Finally, he doesn't think he can be useful D1 because he "doesn't know how" when I, on my second game, am at least trying.

I'd like to first draw attention to these two consecutive posts from him:





[UoN]Sentinel's reasoning here is fine regarding Koshi and marvellosity, except he himself has yet to give any assurances his power is useful or good.

What followed was the reckless explosion of hashtags that set me off at the start of the thread. In the earliest part of the game where scum/town reads are about as accurate as a drunk man playing "Probably Archery", [UoN]Sentinel's power got charged thoughtlessly. This event has kept him, Koshi, and raynpelikoneet on my radar, because I view it as criminally careless at best.

Thereafter [UoN]Sentinel dithered on actually telling anyone what his power allegedly would do:

+ Show Spoiler +

This is scummy play. Having said nothing about what his power does, he continues to leave everyone in the dark. We still don't know what it does even as I type this, despite many instances of mod presence in the thread. I won't iterate over every instance of his evasiveness, as I think the point has been made.

Moving on, I personally found this post rather odd:



This is my second game of TL mafia ever, and while I've been struggling I'd like to think that I've at least been useful at times. What I'm trying to do right now is correct a fairly serious error, rather than throwing my hands up in the air as if there's nothing to be done because it's D1. [UoN]Sentinel's position here works against the town, rather than for it.



There's also this post which caught my attention:



I don't find [UoN]Sentinel's defense here reasonable. Whether or not his power successfully activated is something of a sideshow to what his power is actually supposed to do. But he's hung up on the possibility the countdown was a "dud" and what that will mean when people were already second guessing because the end result of the glorious countdown wasn't a cool power but a dithering, sheepish poster.