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On October 10 2013 05:06 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 10 2013 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
BONUS QUESTION: There's a 3 man scumteam that decides CHEESECAKE is the most likely mafia apart from them. solstice/CR/x. Fill in the x that believe Cheesecake is the most likely other scum OR the x that allows solstice to push Cheesecake as the most likely other scum.
To answer this question I'd need to know whether the CR claim is premeditated or not. Because that matters in the context of this question. I have currently been assuming that the CR claim was at the very least not so premeditated that it stretches back all the way to N3/start of D4. At least to me, when I've got all 3 members alive and am like...a mislynch or two away from winning, I don't tell solstice to claim cop AND CR to claim scum, that's not my plan going into a day.
Not on N3 or D4, but N4.
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On October 10 2013 05:04 VisceraEyes wrote:
Wait your assumption is that no, it wasn't...that it was circumstantial to Pandain flipping or some other factor we're not aware of correct? My current assumption is that the claim/unclaim was connected, not connected to Pandain. So planned, but not planned with regards to Pandain.
Only planned as a way of making CR look a little like his townie self. When your townie self gets lynched for weird scummy plays, scumyou can try to make weird scummy plays in order to try and seem town.
I DON'T think that it's planned all the way back to N3 though, see above.
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Oh shit Austin, that's so bad post..
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Hood's Balls it's such horrid play to begin with. UGH.
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Austin you have a nomination for best scum claim in 2013 and you can't see this. wtf?
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On October 10 2013 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:06 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 10 2013 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
BONUS QUESTION: There's a 3 man scumteam that decides CHEESECAKE is the most likely mafia apart from them. solstice/CR/x. Fill in the x that believe Cheesecake is the most likely other scum OR the x that allows solstice to push Cheesecake as the most likely other scum.
To answer this question I'd need to know whether the CR claim is premeditated or not. Because that matters in the context of this question. I have currently been assuming that the CR claim was at the very least not so premeditated that it stretches back all the way to N3/start of D4. At least to me, when I've got all 3 members alive and am like...a mislynch or two away from winning, I don't tell solstice to claim cop AND CR to claim scum, that's not my plan going into a day. Not on N3 or D4, but N4. If it's planned on N4, I don't THINK it affects my intentions with the possible payphone use or targeting.
What I'm more getting at is, IF the payphone thing is legit, who picks cheesecake? If it's not, it's fake anyway. CR's later claim doesn't factor into that for me, because by N4, the payphone thing has come and gone.
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EBWOP: Best scum play -- as in claiming scum when it helps your team to win.
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On October 10 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 10 2013 05:06 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 10 2013 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
BONUS QUESTION: There's a 3 man scumteam that decides CHEESECAKE is the most likely mafia apart from them. solstice/CR/x. Fill in the x that believe Cheesecake is the most likely other scum OR the x that allows solstice to push Cheesecake as the most likely other scum.
To answer this question I'd need to know whether the CR claim is premeditated or not. Because that matters in the context of this question. I have currently been assuming that the CR claim was at the very least not so premeditated that it stretches back all the way to N3/start of D4. At least to me, when I've got all 3 members alive and am like...a mislynch or two away from winning, I don't tell solstice to claim cop AND CR to claim scum, that's not my plan going into a day. Not on N3 or D4, but N4. If it's planned on N4, I don't THINK it affects my intentions with the possible payphone use or targeting. What I'm more getting at is, IF the payphone thing is legit, who picks cheesecake? If it's not, it's fake anyway. CR's later claim doesn't factor into that for me, because by N4, the payphone thing has come and gone.
I dunno, who would pick CheeseCake?
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My best first instinct answer is that it's fake...but assuming it's legit the first place I'd look is among the people suspicious of Oats, because Oats was shot at last night instead of me, and it's explicit in the thread that I don't have a vest anymore.
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People Oats was suspicious of, my bad. People that Oats said he was interested in lynching. Let's have a look.
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It looks like he was kinda suspicious of VA there at the end...talked a little about CC too. Inconclusive. But assuming the phone is real, I'd say that VA is the scum.
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strongandbig was also shot directly after stating suspicion of VA in his last post. Hrmzies.
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On October 10 2013 05:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2013 05:11 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 05:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On October 10 2013 05:06 austinmcc wrote:On October 10 2013 05:03 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 10 2013 04:44 austinmcc wrote:
BONUS QUESTION: There's a 3 man scumteam that decides CHEESECAKE is the most likely mafia apart from them. solstice/CR/x. Fill in the x that believe Cheesecake is the most likely other scum OR the x that allows solstice to push Cheesecake as the most likely other scum.
To answer this question I'd need to know whether the CR claim is premeditated or not. Because that matters in the context of this question. I have currently been assuming that the CR claim was at the very least not so premeditated that it stretches back all the way to N3/start of D4. At least to me, when I've got all 3 members alive and am like...a mislynch or two away from winning, I don't tell solstice to claim cop AND CR to claim scum, that's not my plan going into a day. Not on N3 or D4, but N4. If it's planned on N4, I don't THINK it affects my intentions with the possible payphone use or targeting. What I'm more getting at is, IF the payphone thing is legit, who picks cheesecake? If it's not, it's fake anyway. CR's later claim doesn't factor into that for me, because by N4, the payphone thing has come and gone. I dunno, who would pick CheeseCake? Bah. Says he wants us discussing stuff. Wants to cut the other people out of things.
I don't KNOW who would pick cheesecake.
If I'm mafia, and know that CR ISN'T the last banger, I probably pick WoS. See my discussion during N3, because of the way he avoids Palmar. I can also be kind of unwarrantedly bossy as scum, have more scum games than solstice, and would push contacting my target of choice over his.
If VA is mafia, he thinks Pandain is last MCB as best I can tell. His team would have contacted Pandain.
Both have been explicit enough that either it's a GIANT SUPER MEGA PLOT HOPING WE KEY IN ON THIS SINGLE THING, or we've been real in saying we suspect those bros.
So I think VA comes out looking less likely than cc for this, because his mafia team doesn't contact cc. Between cc and wos, I still like cc better, just don't love WoS for non-Palmar scum, but I'll poke around him more.
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On October 10 2013 05:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
This day will remain a 48-hour day. Assuming a unanimous vote the next day will be 24 hours.
WoS I will find a way to reward you in the future
Yay!
I don't need no Greymist points or Grokbux for the record.
Rayn do me a favour and remind me of the stuff you want me to look at tomorrow evening after the lynch. I'm not going to have a whole lot of time to play until then.
Regarding BH's suspicion towards me, to be completely honest I don't even remember him having a whole lot of that. I will have a look when I get the chance along with all that other stuff tomorrow.
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On October 10 2013 05:15 VisceraEyes wrote:
People Oats was suspicious of, my bad. People that Oats said he was interested in lynching. Let's have a look.
Oats was a safe shot. At least when 2 scumteams alive. "would the other team shoot him, no? Would he use vest, no?"
But i sitll want Vayne to contribute aswell. Could you see Vayne making this kinda play from D4 -> with Solstice/ChairmanRay?
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I don't know what to expect from Vayne as scum but given his attitude in previous town games I guess I expect him to be like "Do what you want guys I'll just call everyone fucking retarded that suspects me like I do every game and be completely hidden."
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Oh and regarding the recent conversation before I go, I think CR claim COULD have been premeditated, but if so, why give up in the exact same way twice?
Appears way more likely to have really given up, then convinced by scumbuddy to fight, then gave up again and even TOLD us that he was being yelled at in QT.
Of course the above could have been a lie but then why confess essentially the same way twice?
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VE, also do you think Oats could have ever pushed a lynch on anyone in this game?
Like, if i put myself into scum position; In Noir, i wanted to kill people who are able to push a lynch on me. I didn't give a fuck if Koshi called me scum because he never gave any reasons for me being scum. I didn't give a fuck about JAT and Zaragon (other people suspicious of me) because they didin't not have credit/credibility to lynch me. I did not give a fuck about Mocsta because he fucked up on D2 and lost all credibility and town would never lynch me before him.
Why kill someone if it can only make you look bad? When the alternative is him calling you scum for nothing and "shitting up the thread" with you not having to fear them?
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On October 10 2013 05:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
Oh and regarding the recent conversation before I go, I think CR claim COULD have been premeditated, but if so, why give up in the exact same way twice?
Appears way more likely to have really given up, then convinced by scumbuddy to fight, then gave up again and even TOLD us that he was being yelled at in QT.
Of course the above could have been a lie but then why confess essentially the same way twice?
Because you tricked him into "scumslip". Which you didn't even realize. :D
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On October 10 2013 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
VE, also do you think Oats could have ever pushed a lynch on anyone in this game?
Like, if i put myself into scum position; In Noir, i wanted to kill people who are able to push a lynch on me. I didn't give a fuck if Koshi called me scum because he never gave any reasons for me being scum. I didn't give a fuck about JAT and Zaragon (other people suspicious of me) because they didin't not have credit/credibility to lynch me. I did not give a fuck about Mocsta because he fucked up on D2 and lost all credibility and town would never lynch me before him.
Why kill someone if it can only make you look bad? When the alternative is him calling you scum for nothing and "shitting up the thread" with you not having to fear them?
Removing the support for his lynch if/when pushed by someone who CAN push the lynch.
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