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I would take the promised 110% and never let go. | ||
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But Kush said recently that he didn't put in any effort in his last 5 town games, I don't know if this is true but if it is true then I would love to see him roll town and give 110% effort. Also, it was a bit of a joke. meh. | ||
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Is it this the series? 1 season with 26 episodes? | ||
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On August 17 2013 05:27 Umasi wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persona_4:_The_Animation Thx! | ||
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On August 17 2013 07:13 kushm4sta wrote: i never said this wtf!! My problem is that often the game will start at a bad time of the week for me, and at the start of the game there are so many pages so quickly that I can't read everything. Ok. :D. Thought you said something in those lines. soz. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Self-aware millers and survivor claim please before D1. If you don't we lynch you after if you do. I was thinking the same. | ||
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On August 20 2013 20:36 yamato77 wrote: ... Did you not read your role PM or something? I did and I was disappointed. | ||
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You make me feel better :D | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi what's your read on Oats and why did you immediately change your mind on survivor claim thingy when Oats and yamato posted? I was talking more about the self aware miller part. Dnu. Survivor shouldn't claim if he wants to play his role like that. Also your point about if we know there is a survivor we know there isn't an SK is really scummy rayn. Cuz SK is scum their problem. | ||
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For the first 2 days it is solely scum their problem. Got to find scummies as town. Got to find SK as scummer. | ||
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about the self-aware miller (survivor can fuck off) EDIT: ok so I already edited one of my posts instead of quoting it. But I am pretty sure the above post was the original one. | ||
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On August 20 2013 21:40 WaveofShadow wrote: Damn it I was really hoping to be WaveofShadow the shadow. So here's a question ladies. It's N0. Someone is gonna die in ~20 hours. Why are we painting targets on ourselves this early when we don't have a lynch yet? Shouldn't we help the town cop/doc/vigi to help pick their targets -_- Also, my conspiracies vibes are tingling. I have a strong feeling you rolled scum but not a Shadow. | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:06 WaveofShadow wrote: Wat? So Rayn if you don't die tonight does that mean I can consider you scum? Don't you consider everybody as scum? | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:15 Oatsmaster wrote: I wasnt asking why you think Koshi is scum. You think yamato isnt serious in his accusation? Why? Oats so smart. Yamato and WoS are scum. | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:25 WaveofShadow wrote: Hey Koshi, want to contribute at all, or are you content to sit back and hide now that other people are tunneling a towny for you? Don't know what there is to contribute. On August 20 2013 22:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi why did you not give me a read on Oats when i asked? I didn't see it. I have no clue atm. It looks like he is in people their face again. I want to lynch WoS atm. I have no clue about other people. | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi, How can you say you have no read on Oats as on the last page you just said this: If you do not think this is true why say it in the first place? Well, I just liked what he said. | ||
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On August 20 2013 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: So you do not give people town read for things they say that you like? Do you think WoS and yamato are scum? Well, at this point I can only give small percentages of town / scum . Sure, Oats can be pro town atm. WoS is playing anti town. yamato is null though. The comment from WoS doesn't necessarily mean that yamato is scum. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:07 DarthPunk wrote: That game he was town. In this game he has completely reversed his position. What gives? Aside from this dissonance from rayn. I don't really give a fuck about policy. The person most likely to be scum is Koshi. He is following the trends of the thread with quick position reverses and one liners. Obviously he has no opinion yet tries to contribute to the discussion. Whilst saying absolutely nothing and backflipping within the space of a post. I also don;t like the awkward post-hoc clarification he does as he tries to diminish his backflip The rest of his filter is useless one liners and a hilarious OMGUS Everything going according to plan! | ||
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But I am the self aware miller guy. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:25 Oatsmaster wrote: Why didnt you claim in your first post? Why did you decide to wait 4 hours? I really didn't know if that was the best course of action. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:27 Oatsmaster wrote: So what changed your mind? What were you thinking about? Why was it bad for you to claim in your first post and good for you to claim now? Dnu, was thinking about it the entire time. But now seems like a good moment. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:30 WaveofShadow wrote: When did I say you were scum? I've seen Koshi's scum QTs and I know how he gets when under any suspicion at all. O rly please tell me more. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:31 Oatsmaster wrote: Answer the questions. There must be reasons. "Dnu" not a reason. I just wanted to wait a bit and now feels like a good time to claim. Also with the case on me I thought it would be more obvious. I should breadcrumb a bit better. Let's see: On August 20 2013 20:07 raynpelikoneet wrote: Self-aware millers and survivor claim please before D1. If you don't we lynch you after if you do. I was thinking the same. Was thinking I should claim with my role. On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: Ok, survivor might not want to claim. The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. Kinda asking the thread if I should claim or not. You make me feel better :D I wanted to roll town but this role was looking silly. But still better than scum. Also, now that I know I have to claim it is maybe not too horrible. On August 20 2013 21:28 Koshi wrote: I was talking more about the self aware miller part. Dnu. Survivor shouldn't claim if he wants to play his role like that. Also your point about if we know there is a survivor we know there isn't an SK is really scummy rayn. Cuz SK is scum their problem. about the self-aware miller (survivor can fuck off) ^ should have been my response to rayn in the first place. ________________ take it or leave it. | ||
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I made that statement because on the internet, when you are wrong, people tell you. On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. It was sort of asking people if I should claim or not. Then I decided I should just wait longer. But then you came in and you made that case and I thought PERFECT! | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:43 Sn0_Man wrote: Hows self-aware-miller breadcrumbing possible? There's no way. Koshi scumclaimed for absolutely no reason. Somebody remind me whether its town or scum who know the alignment of all players at the start of the game. Well, I just tried to make a lot of posts about the topic. Could have done it more obvious but I really had no clue if I should insta claim or wait it out a bit. | ||
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I am somewhat hurt. lol. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:50 Oatsmaster wrote: Come on Koshi. Why didnt you claim at the start? Because I didn't know if it was the right play. That's it. So simple. That's why I made the statement that selfaware millers should claim at start. To see what people would say. I could also have said: "guys, do self-aware millers claim at start?" But that looked obvious. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:55 DarthPunk wrote: No. This is retarded. If someone tells everyone to claim miller immediately multiple times and then doesn't claim immediately. They are fucking scum. I don't care what he posts afterwards. He was ALSO UNDER DURESS WHEN HE MADE THE MILLER CLAIM. This is not a claim free of suspicion, with adequate breadcrumbs or a straight up claim. He had to go look for a breadcrumb ffs. Which was just posts of him SAYING MILLERS SHOULD INSTA CLAIM. I have no fucking idea how rayn could possibly think he is town. or that anyone would ever give him the benefit of the doubt. My good man, you are trying to justify my lynch with saying: OMG THIS GUY SO BAD PLAY, SHOULD HAVE FUCKING CLAIMED AT START!!!!!!!!!1!1!1!1!1!!!!!!!!!!!!! I did this play as self aware miller. | ||
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On August 20 2013 23:56 Oatsmaster wrote: no thats not what you were thinking. You were thinking how claiming could get you killed, or help scum or help town. SPECIFICS KOSHI. Not knowing if its the right play means that you were thinking about the DOWNSIDES OF CLAIMING. I was also considering if claiming instantly could hurt town. But I had no clue. Rayn also said before day 1. Not instantly. So I just wasn't sure... | ||
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On August 21 2013 00:17 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, talk about Koshi. Why would he not do it as scum, and what do you like about his explanation? This Koshi talking is somewhat boring. But I can answer that. Because I don't call JK when 4 people are telling me to claim it. I am not going to claim something "under pressure" because 1 guy made a case. I simply won't do that. But even if I did it, you guys are seriously overreacting that this is a 100% scumclaim. Dnu how long you are going to keep hammering on it. | ||
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On August 21 2013 02:05 Rainbows wrote: I FIND IT TERRIBLY TERRIBLE THAT NOBODY WANTS TO COMMENT ON SN0_MAN's SHENANIGANS. ARE THE SCUM JUST NOT SAYING ANYTHING TO AVOID ATTENTION TOWARDS HIM? I also don't like the snow man. But we still got times yo. ^ also I didn't reply because I felt accused as scummer :D. | ||
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On August 21 2013 03:50 mkfuba07 wrote: You can't lynch what's already been shot by mafia. In any case, he's right about one thing. I'm gonna read some filters after I hop in the shower really quick. Anyone else know what made DP and rayn find Rainbows 100% mafia? His entrance post and then trying to shift focus to me when he was under pressure. But dnu if I find it scummy. | ||
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On August 21 2013 03:50 Sn0_Man wrote: Where did I say he was mafia? He looks bad since he popped in the thread, posted a few really really generic slimy friendly crap posts then dissappeared as soon as somebody mentioned that it was N0 and that maybe people didn't need to paint big targets on themselves for scum to hit. It looked awful although it could easily just be bad noob. AT THIS STAGE his contribution isn't enough to lynch him yet he is more likely to be scum (to me) than somebody like geript who has managed to make some kind of anything post and more likely than somebody like Tofu who hasn't posted at all. I don't like the idea of shooting active players who if they are scum will eventually hang themselves by word or action (vote). Obviously if they are CLEARLY scum then sure but I just don't have the faith in your case that you do. Early in the game discussion is key to get everything rolling. Scum have information that town doesn't, so town needs as much information as possible disseminating as soon as possible, and discussion and input from everybody is IMO the best way to get that. Vigging lynch candidates doesn't really help in that way. People keep saying this. But we should just lynch scummers imho. This whole lynching people that don't do shit and maybe look scummy isn't working out in every game I played so far. Every game. | ||
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On August 21 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: lol. third scum in the bag. I hope it is the sn0wman? | ||
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Well it's mufassa, kush, the snowman or me. Kush and that evil guy from the Lion King doesn't seem very scummy. | ||
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On August 21 2013 04:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi answer me please. I can't find what you said about the snowman D: Unless you mean that Rainbows his case is not alignment indicative. Which I don't fully agree upon. Like I really don't get why I am 90% scum because I said On August 20 2013 20:18 Koshi wrote: .Ok, survivor might not want to claim. The self-aware miller should claim though. Dnu why he shouldn't claim instantly. Silly role. You can think it is superscummy, but like I said, I was making a statement in the hope you guys would correct me instead of asking "should the self-ware miller claim isntantly". So I am not really super certain the snowman is town. Easy tunnel is easy. But maybe too soon to start tunneling as scummer. So dnu. | ||
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On August 21 2013 05:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Well you're doin' a shit job there so far buddeh. Nha, we all believe rayn, but we are not saying it because we don't want to lose rayn this night to the evul scummers. | ||
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imo you were just mad because I sniffed out you were the scum RB and were being mean to rayn because of that. | ||
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On August 21 2013 06:14 Sn0_Man wrote: Crazometer has 3 posts in game. They looked terrible but noobs also have a history of bad first thread entrances. I still call him a solid vig shot atm but right now I want one of Koshi or Rayn dead tonight to have their flip as information towards the first lynch... You are so bad. Like. So bad. So you make a preflip association between me and rayn because rayn doesn't call me scum. lololol. And because you are butthurt about him calling you scum. If you are town. Man up. lol. Like. The guy is scumhunting. | ||
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guis guis guis listen, rayn did something in the scumthread and Koshi didn't scheck the scumtread so yeah dnu, must be they are trying to pull a stunt yeah, so lets lynch one of these guis. ok cool guis? I don't really care what they flip but you know, if it is town we know the other gui is town, and when it is scum i am like really good. hahahaha | ||
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On August 21 2013 06:24 Sn0_Man wrote: I'll readily admit that I see both sides of my arguments before proposing them. It makes it hard for me to really be certain about scum sometimes, and that is a very real weakness to my play. In other news, I notice a tendency of yours to say "dnu" whenever you are asked a question and kinda deflect it with some seriously wishy-washy garbage. Thoughts? Ask the question again and I will answer without dnu. I try not to think so much when I post. And then people ask why I post stuff and I need to think about what I was thinking. But I am more like feeling instead of thinking. You get my drift? | ||
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All is calm, all is bright Round yon virgin mother and child. Holy infant so tender and mild, Sleep in heavenly peace. Sleep in heavenly peace. Silent night, holy night, Shepherds quake at the sight, Glories stream from heaven afar, Heavenly hosts sing alleluia; Christ the Savior, is born! Christ the Savior, is born! Silent night, holy night, Son of God, love's pure light Radiant beams from thy holy face, With the dawn of redeeming grace, Jesus, Lord, at thy birth. Jesus, Lord, at thy birth. | ||
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On August 21 2013 19:57 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn, so you think WoS is bullshitting about his supposed gambit? What makes you think that? What gambit? He pretended to be blue and then before the night he says he is vanilla townie? Damn! Those scums must be confused now. Also, if he thinks rayn is scum and bluehunting, shouldn't WoS continue pretending he is blue? PS: my picture has a Rainbow, Snowman and a swirly WaveofShadows. *wink wink* | ||
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jow rayn. WoS achieved to gain some scumpoints but Rainbows and The Snowman are more scummy in less posts. | ||
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On August 21 2013 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why wouldn't i? Scum KP is not fixed at 1 and there is a possibility of SK. Meh, Titanic had 1 KP and was 10 vs 4. | ||
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On August 21 2013 12:44 WaveofShadow wrote: + Show Spoiler + I started to read through Sn0's filter but I think that's going to require some actual thought and a little more time on my part. In the meantime since Geript so nicely brought up that my 'let's not talk N0' post was bullshit, guess what? It was. I didn't really have much of an overarching plan going into that post but I did want to see how various people reacted to it. Geript brings up a good point about Crazy---problem is he's apparently new (at least to TL, I don't know about mafia in general). Fuba sees right through me though, and I fucking love playing with this guy. On August 21 2013 08:05 mkfuba07 wrote: @WoS: I assume you're implying that you breadcrumbed something about your role (which I would presume is veteran, due to the emphasis on rayn wanting a shot used on you), and you believe rayn found it and is trying to take advantage of that situation to get rid of a vig shot (if there is one), the veteran (if you are it), and your usual town play in one night. I guess you could be any blue role in this situation, but since you emphasized rayn wanting you shot (as opposed to lynched tomorrow) I guessed veteran. I probably overlooked something, but I try (with limited success) to not speculate on things I have no way of knowing. Hot/cold? What are your thoughts on Rainbows? He's sort of got the thought process right, though with a few details that are wrong. First of all I didn't breadcrumb anything: I will claim right here. I am sadly but a simple VT. My play though certainly looked like blue play, wouldn't you say? As a blue I certainly don't want to draw attention to myself on the first night so I can put whatever ability I've got to good use---I suppose in that way you could call my 'not talking at night' post a breadcrumb, albeit a fake one. I make my post and the thread direction abruptly changes---Rayn begins to incessantly push me from that point on. On August 20 2013 22:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: No, seriously. Why did you suggest that we should not talk? Why are you avoiding the question? I can clearly show from your filter in CCM that you did start scumhunting on N0 when hosts told you also roles can start acting then. You clearly thought you were wrong and staerted acting in the correct manner as town. Why are you proposing the same anti-town idea here again? Just answer me and do not run in circles around the question. I have no good read on Koshi yet. Why am I avoiding the question? Not only do I not want to reveal my mini-gambit this early as it is generating good discussion (and not only do I doubt a tunnely Rayn would even bother to believe me at this point since it is apparent in thread that he has 'found scum'), but I don't want to explain it's because I as a 'blue' do not want my identity revealed. Now Rayn is a smart player. He knows something is up obviously. The thing is, what he is doing? It's scum bluefishing. Not scumhunting. This is exactly why he calls for a vig shot---if he can paint the blue towny as scum then the scumteam doesn't even have to waste a shot. If I'm vet they can RB me and I'll die as well. Have doubts that he is scum simply bluefishing under the guise of tunnel town? On August 21 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: If WoS claims something shoot him regardless. That does not make him town. I have no blue role to claim but he has already thought ahead of time that I will attempt to use it to get myself out long before it is necessary. He knows exactly what I was thinking with my earlier comment. His joke of a case (which basically amounts to me being mad at me for not answering him lolol) is a sham to hide the fact that he expected me to defend myself with the defense he listed at the bottom of his case, when in fact that is an absolutely shit defense and he would have very likely called me out on it for such. On August 21 2013 00:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is why WaveofShadow is mafia: This is one of the first posts from him in CCM: (Here is a link to the post for the following: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407685¤tpage=11#210 ) After that, when hosts confirm that roles can also act on N0, WoS retracts from his stance and starts scumhunting. If you read the game from that point on it can clearly be seen. This is what i call WoS out for: WoS does not want to answer me, he keeps dodging the question, and this is all i get out of him: Look at the answer. He is saying "look, i am playing to my town meta as i played the same way in CCM". The answer i was looking for (in case he was town was in this post (from CCM): This is a perfectly fine explanation for his behaviour. Why does he not say that here, in this game? Why is he not trying to explain why town!WoS would bring that "let's not talk on N0" stuff again? Answer is: - Because he is mafia and he is trying to play the "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game". - He didn't even think of needing to have an explanation because of "look, i played similarly in the other same-a-like game" would be enough. - If he was town he could, should and would explain himself. Lynch D1. Or better, vig N0. Why would I use the exact same explanation for a bad post in a second game when he himself says he expects that I should have learned from the first time I did it? Ridiculous. Another point I have already stated earlier---the way he was playing when he stated he was going to ignore me and everything I say because I didn't take him up on the chances he gave me---is that good town play in any way? The post is a little disjointed but everything in here points to Rayn scum. Discuss accordingly, especially those of you who view Rayn to be town. DP I'm looking at you. Let me recap how I see this WoS case on rayn. So guys I wanted to look into The Snowman but i cba. Geript is a really cool guy and understands me completely. So, I made a post to bait rections but I have still no clue about how I am going to interpret those actions. That cool guy geript made a good point on Crazy though. But let's not go too crazy about Crazy because he is new. Another really really cool cuz is mkfuba07. He gets me completely except everything he said is wrong and I am just a VT. But didn't I really fake being blue well? So, because I faked being blue so well I am going to tell my scumread rayn that I am actually just a VT so he can go and search after the real blue role for the first nightkill. So rayn is scumhunting and is also trying to get the vigi shoot me. This means that town loses 2 blue skills. Rayn is so certain I am a blue role that I will get roleblocked and in case I am the Veteran I will die this night anyway. But let me tell all of you this 28 hours before deadline because as a VT I really don't want to get RB+shot at me in the first night because that would be so bad for town. But WAIT I actually don't have a bluerole and rayn knows this!!!! So he plans ahead and already gives the reasons I am going to give to defend myself as a VT. But WAIT AGAIN Why would I want to give the same reasons anyway? So joke is on him. I don't make a bad opening post two games in a row. + Show Spoiler + Except I did. But guys this time to see reactions. Please ignore that I actually don't follow up on those reactions at all So please discuss why rayn is scum guys. Because this case is full of shit and I know it. DP I am looking at you to help me out here. | ||
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really really cool cuz = really really cool guy So rayn is scumhunting = So rayn is bluehunting | ||
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I really want to see WoS explain to me 50% of his case against rayn was about how rayn was making the vigi shoot him because scum has a RB. | ||
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On August 21 2013 22:37 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi you need to work also on knowing who is left in the game and who is not. Other than that your post is spot on. w0t? I know DP is dead. Last sentence of my post was paraphrasing the last post of WoS his case. | ||
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On August 21 2013 23:28 yamato77 wrote: I'm really tired of reading WoS vs. Rayn. I don't think either of you are scum and neither is going anywhere with his case on the other. Koshi is highly suspect for just jumping on the WoS wagon without so much as a second thought. I'll forgive you because you probably didn't see my picture yet. Also, I gave a second thought in the same post as my vote D: | ||
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On August 21 2013 23:33 yamato77 wrote: Your "second thought" isn't to consider that WoS might be town, it is that two other people are scum. It doesn't really qualify as a real second thought about the alignment of WoS. All it proves is that you've moved beyond having no reads into the territory of accusing people already under suspicion. I said he gained some scumpoints. Not that he was 100% scum. How am I 100% certain he is scum. Also, it was the Snowman who jumped the Koshi wagon after my "fake-claim" who said I was 100% scum. Just saying. No need 2b hating. | ||
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You didn't "liked" the picture I uploaded. Blame the facebookgeneration. | ||
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On August 22 2013 00:12 WaveofShadow wrote: Alright guys I'm up. Rayn are we done here? I will not be shitting up the thread with you today; there are far more important things to be done. Not going to vote you either; I believe yamato/fuba/oats may have the right of it. I fell asleep before I could properly look into Sn0_man, sorry. It seems him and Rainbows may be the candidates for today? Townie points for WoS. | ||
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On August 22 2013 00:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Townie points for what? For retracting from the only conclusion he got from his "big play"? He still got many scummie points. No need to panic rayn. Let's see what he has to say about the snowman. Or rainbows magic. | ||
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The only reason why I don't want to lynch Rainbows atm is because DP had a good case on him. Which is a silly reason but meh. | ||
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But the Snowman has around 40 posts tunneling Onegu, rayn and me with the wildest and extreme accusations. I mean... I agree that it was strange when rayn asked me what I thought about his case on the Snowman, but to say that me and rayn just failed a play because I didn't read the Scum QT is a bit too much. | ||
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I just checked his profile and seems like he has a 14-4 record. That is quite impressive but I have a hard time believing that the 4 guys that kush mentioned as possible scums went for him. Anybody played a lot of games with DP? | ||
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On August 22 2013 01:59 kushm4sta wrote: what do you mean? why woulnd't that scumteam kill him? I think any scumteam would have killed him regardless of his reads. I think he was by far the best town in the game. On August 22 2013 01:58 Oatsmaster wrote: i have koshi. Whats your point? I did not know he was such a good player tbh. But yeah, if he is generally seen as one of the best townplayers I understand why he was killed. nvm what I said. | ||
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On August 22 2013 05:12 FirmTofu wrote: Everytime I make a case, everyone just skims over it and nothing comes of it. I'm trying a new approach this time. asses your current base beliefs and then reach a logical conclusion while incorporating the NK. Let me know if you have trouble following the logic or if there are any holes in it. Well, I agree that people don't discuss cases enough. Even if they are bad. But the only time you mentioned the Snowman before in this thread was wifom around the NK. Which in my eyes is rarely useful. You say Titanic was a good example? Vivax was on the wrong track, VA was on the wrong track, Clarity was right about Stutters only. So I don't understand your reasoning at all. You base your case around the fact that there isn't a single scummer that repsects DP and therefore the NK must have been about his read on The Snowman? Not enough man. The Snowman posted enough to make at least a little bit of an effort to point out something in his posting. | ||
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These big posts are appreciated but Rainbow just dismantled your case and put pressure back on you. I am inclined to go with him atm. WoS still scummy in my eyes. | ||
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On August 22 2013 08:10 Rainbows wrote: Lol scumteam theories pre-flip in my head about WoS / mkfuba It's such bad play but it's so juicy and tempting. Hahaha so true. I keep rereading that "omg you understand me completely mkfuba" post by WoS. But there is probably nothing :D. | ||
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On August 22 2013 12:24 Crazometer wrote: 1) He agrees that in theory I am a good kill, going from my behaviour so far in the game I would agree. I'm sure you've all witnessed the damage that can occur when a lurker makes it into the later rounds and you have nothing to base your judgements off. However, he suggests that we direct our intentions elsewhere, I believe this to be for the following reasons. 2) -From my lack of activity he believes me not to be a blue role, that is neither important as an ally nor an enemy 3) -He feels confident as I am a new player that should he need to later on in the game he will be able to manipulate me into following whatever narrative he decides to come up with. - Convince others into voting for me when the situation is looking dire for his alignment 1) Crazometer, kush find you a shitty lynch because it is a shot in the dark. You could flip scum but most of the fucking time around here lurkers and baddies like yourself flip town. I am currently having the same mindset on that. 2) What? Why would he care you are a blue role? What do you mean? 3) Conspiracy theory. Also fucking bullshit. ______________________________________________________________ Horrible case. Contribute more and about more people please. | ||
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The Lion King should provide us with more scumreads though. Hopefully he will in the second part of this game. It should be easier if town is transparent about all their scumreads andadd some sort of reasoning behind them. It makes it harder for scum to hide like this. Or at least will be harder for scum if you consistently do that, because they have a harder time faking scumreads and adjusting to new information. Day is still long though. | ||
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Mexican Standoff mafia - Town. Full of 1 liners and an I don't give a fuck attitude. Boardwalk empire mafia - Town This is pro-town posting and I don't see the Snowman be so extreme like he is in this game. At the end he says he was happy with his game, so I don't see why he decided to be a total nutcase this game. Newbie Mini Mafia - Town cop Again superb play. Newbie Mini Mafia XXXV - Town The link brings you to the second page of his filter. Look at the first post there. Then look at the Snowman his filter this game. ___________________________________________________________________________ After filterdiving the Snowman I am sad. The guy can play superb mafia and decided to play really shitty this game. I can almost not believe that now that he rolled scum for the first time he would play like this. But why is he playing so bad? ##unvote ##vote: The Snowman Pick your shit up dude. Pick it up or scumclaim. | ||
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On August 22 2013 19:32 Onegu wrote: This is terrible you just finish saying he most likely wouldnt play his first scum game this way. I am leaning scum on him but still bad reason for a vote. It's more of a pressure vote that sticks if he doesn't pick his game up. I also still find his play scummy. | ||
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On August 22 2013 21:29 geript wrote: ## unvote ## vote crazometer This is blatantly obvious. His argument was "I'm suspicious of someone because they're not suspicious of me". You can't have any more implied guilt. What about his other posts? Do you find him sincere in his posting or is he playing games? | ||
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On August 22 2013 01:05 kushm4sta wrote: VayneAuthority Oatsmaster geript Sn0_Man DarthPunk mkfuba07 FirmTofu Crazometer Onegu Rainbows kushm4sta Koshi raynpelikoneet WaveofShadow yamato77 scumteam you better kill me next Onegu. What about this? Is he bussing his m8s? | ||
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On August 22 2013 22:31 Onegu wrote: His reads jump everywhere he is on no one for long. I agree. He does give FT a townread a bit later and wants to lynch rayn while "defending" yamato. A lot of people are giving Kush a townread. I think it has to do with Kush not being confident in his reads? He was jumping everywhere in GoT as well. | ||
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On August 22 2013 22:39 Crazometer wrote: How much do votes weigh in these games? Do people tend to jump around or are they taken fairly seriously? In the case that they are serious I'm going to say this retaliation to my mild post about you reads of scumdog millionaire. Some people jump around, some people let their vote stick. I don't understand what the bolded part means. | ||
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On August 22 2013 23:47 Oatsmaster wrote: except kush's posts that Onegu pointed out are jokes rayn. I dont know which post you are referring too. Probably this one. But I should add that you better just read WoS his case on rayn, then read what I wrote, don't take my post too seriously but make some conclusions of your own when reading that. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:07 Sn0_Man wrote: This is the funniest post I've read in a while. OMG Sn0 so good at mafia but he hasn't caught scum this game he must be scum himself! A) I'm awful at this game. I am aware of the fact. I've never played "Superb" in my life. B) Its D1... Most of my good analysis traditionally centres around votes and blue-powers. I am not saying that your reads are good. I meant that your mentality is good, while in this game you went 1) clear scumposting on Onegu. 2) 100% scumclaim from Koshi. 3) failed scumplay by rayn and Koshi. Both scum. That is not the mentality of a guy that knows his reads suck and want to wait on votes. And that is not how you posted in previous games. | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:48 Oatsmaster wrote: So you are saying that as scum, WoS decided to emulate his town play in CCM, a drastically different game that was like 2 months ago and when that failed, just shut the hell up? Does this sound anywhere reasonable? The reason WoS eventually gave was that he emulated his town play from CCM to see reactions and catch scummies. Did you see him do that? | ||
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On August 23 2013 00:49 Oatsmaster wrote: Its not a points system. It isnt like once someone reaches 10 points they must be scum. If somebody has 10 scumpoints and somebody else has 3 scumpoints I am going to lynch the first guy. | ||
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##vote WaveofShadow On August 23 2013 01:34 WaveofShadow wrote: Ugh this is going to be one of those plurality lynches that lets mafia hide wherever they want, isn't it? Since Crazometer's posting I'm not 100% sure of him being scum anymore. Could still vote him or maybe Onegu today---the strong sheeping of thread sentiment and jumping on my gambit early for weak reasons is bad and now he comes back and tries to push kush who is usually pretty good lynchbait and someone who wouldn't necessarily be able to defend himself particularly well. A 'safe' scumpick for vote if you will. Activity won't be great until later this evening at which point I really think there should be some consolidation. Rayn will probably leave his vote on me no matter what happens---I don't like it but it's pretty much expected. I don't want a lynch going through with 3-4 votes though. Terrible post. First sentence is asking for consolidation, last paragraph is the same. I don't see a problem with scum being unable to easily put a vote somewhere. It is important for town to consolidate on a target? I really don't think this is the case. It is better that everybody speaks his mind and votes who is his scummiest target tbh. Near the deadline you can then switch towards your best "possible" lynchtarget if your own scumtarget gets no attention. Crazo was a 100% certain scum for WoS? On August 22 2013 05:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Also I read Sn0, and I honestly can't make heads or tails of him right now. Where is he anyway? His filter is full of him making strong accusations but the manner in which he does so is....disconcerting I guess? Something is off and I don't know what it is. Sn0 do you still think Koshi and Rayn are scum? An answer to this question I feel will be very important as to how the rest of the thread treats you today. Right now I think I may just want to lynch Crazometer for his reaction to my 'no-talk' idea and the fact that he supposedly can't 'keep up' with me? It looks like he's trying to make it seem like an attempt at putting effort/reads in when he hasn't commented on anything at all the entire game. I'm aware he's a lurker but it's what I got right now. Also I remember having a bad feeling that kush is actually doing a little something this game---I remember reading a thread recently where he actually played a game and was mafia. (Like much in this game apparently, I may be misremembering though) Kush are you one of those players who hates rolling town? On August 22 2013 15:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah kush is town. I feel better about my current vote choice now. Never said why he felt better about Crazo. But seems like it was enough to bump him to 100%. WoS scumhunting is non existing this game. The case on rayn was terrible as I said before. There was also around 20h between the first time that he mentioned making a case on sn0 and the time he actually posted that case in which sn0 was a null read without adding a further explanation. Soft pointing out Onegu and fucking off was his latest contribution. | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:04 kushm4sta wrote: what events are those and what do you think i should do because of them? Comment on them? Is the Snowman still lynchbait for you? | ||
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On August 23 2013 04:48 FirmTofu wrote: We should be talking about sn0_dude, not me. This is such a waste of time. Nha we can talk about both. | ||
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On August 23 2013 05:02 WaveofShadow wrote: So the people who have voted you thus far are scum? Why do you make shitty comments like this? Trying to make the town on the FT wagon feel better about their choice? | ||
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On August 23 2013 05:10 WaveofShadow wrote: No, I am literally asking him to think about the statement he made and whether it makes sense. So biased, Koshi. Real sad. haha. Yeah it was too obvious :D Your previous post gave you townie points again. Below the message I was typing before refresh and I saw yours. + Show Spoiler + Well that case was complete garbage though. I can't believe a scummer would make such a case on a town wagon. Scum FT is way more sneaky than that. The outrage that came after that ridiculous post by FT makes me not want to vote him. | ||
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Now let me again explain to you why we are at least not liking you. Are you playing like this as scum? Or as town? I am leaning scum. Also for reasons stated in this post that you never replied to. I really don't like shit like that because I made the effort to look in all your games, comment on that, you reply to me, I point out a contradiction in that reply, and you ignore me entirely. I shall again say that I am the self aware miller. Your reaction to my claim was saying I was 100% scum, which I don't understand at all, why instantly jump to that conclusion? While your actual reasoning comes over a lot less certain in post like this. So you type 100% certain scum, please vigi shoot this scum but when you type out your reasoning you are very insecure: "makes a certain amount of sense" "could be doing something similar" "if there is no other miller claim". Another really interesting thing is how you started going so fanatically after rayn. Nothing suggest you are really suspicious of rayn or disliking rayn his playstyle. You are even having good conversations with rayn here and here. So there is basically no bad blood between you and rayn, even though rayn is a bit grilling you, you have no problem at all with it. Then out of fucking nowhere these quotes: On August 21 2013 05:00 Sn0_Man wrote: ooooor you forgot that you posted it in the scum QT for koshi to read? Just a possibility On August 21 2013 05:25 Sn0_Man wrote: For the record, Koshi is full of it and I'm more than a little suspicious that rayn scumslipped not so long ago. Your follow up on those 2 quotes was this case on rayn. Since then you have never looked back and just went with rayn & Koshi are scumbros. All this is just pretty bad. Especially if you admit that you think of yourself as somebody who is terrible at reading people and his strenght is analyzing vote patterns and flips. And like I have said, in those 4 town games I read you never were this radical in your thinking. | ||
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On August 23 2013 06:47 mkfuba07 wrote: I'm back ^^ Caught up in the thread, but definitely need to read filters to get scumreads down (yesterday was spent sleeping off a rather bitchy mood). I'm in bed, recovering from a dentist visit, so expect a new vote from me soon. Oh, and Koshi. Mufasa is the good guy in the Lion King :D I know D: Scar is the evul guy. I wanted to post a cool picture of you in the thread and paint your ears red. But then I saw my mistake and was deeply ashamed as it is on of the first movies I saw in the cinema when I was little. | ||
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-Again, I can see why that play by rayn confuses you. But that is why you call him scum? You never stated before that you had a problem with the way rayn acted. -I followed up on that -> your mindset is superb town, not your reads. While your mindset this game is extremely narrow. Comment on that please. Where you ever so extreme convinced you found scum instantly in those towngames I mentioned? -Yeah the world is against you. | ||
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I had played 2 games with FT before Titanic and 2 times he was town and played the same as he did in Titanic. You saw through him but I saw the same FT. FT played super detached in the GoT game and was town, FT is playing detached in this game. Currently I am null on FT. I could see him being a player that switches styles after each scum game? Wild guessing but I can't say this FT is town. | ||
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On August 23 2013 07:58 Oatsmaster wrote: cause of horrrific case on Sno. So bad. So very bad. And general detachment yeah. Like he couldnt really care less. ^ agreed. That case was so terrible. How can FT make a case like that and press post? | ||
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On August 23 2013 08:20 FirmTofu wrote: Lol. You're kidding right? My top scumread was scum->Acrofales. The only thing I did wrong Day 1 was call rayn town and afk for too long. One of those two things I couldn't even control. Yeah true. But it was town that voted you out that game. Scum had nothing to do with it. You must have done other things wrong but I don't recall. Anyway, that case on the Snowman was truly OMGUS (first time I use this term, I am growing up!). But the reaction from others was funzies. ##unvote ##vote: The Snowman I think I am going to stick on this guy. WoS earned some townie points and the Snowman didn't. Yamato/Geript/Rainbows are terrible. But I am happy we are for once not lynching into the lurkers/baddies and then act all surprised and disappointed. I should be awake in 8 hours. | ||
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On August 23 2013 06:37 Koshi wrote: Mr. Evul Snowman. I don't understand why you are so surprised that both me and rayn are not liking you tbh. I do agree that we are buddying up on you and WoS but we have both expressed pretty well why we are after you 2. Now let me again explain to you why we are at least not liking you. Are you playing like this as scum? Or as town? I am leaning scum. Also for reasons stated in this post that you never replied to. I really don't like shit like that because I made the effort to look in all your games, comment on that, you reply to me, I point out a contradiction in that reply, and you ignore me entirely. I shall again say that I am the self aware miller. Your reaction to my claim was saying I was 100% scum, which I don't understand at all, why instantly jump to that conclusion? While your actual reasoning comes over a lot less certain in post like this. So you type 100% certain scum, please vigi shoot this scum but when you type out your reasoning you are very insecure: "makes a certain amount of sense" "could be doing something similar" "if there is no other miller claim". Another really interesting thing is how you started going so fanatically after rayn. Nothing suggest you are really suspicious of rayn or disliking rayn his playstyle. You are even having good conversations with rayn here and here. So there is basically no bad blood between you and rayn, even though rayn is a bit grilling you, you have no problem at all with it. Then out of fucking nowhere these quotes: Your follow up on those 2 quotes was this case on rayn. Since then you have never looked back and just went with rayn & Koshi are scumbros. All this is just pretty bad. Especially if you admit that you think of yourself as somebody who is terrible at reading people and his strenght is analyzing vote patterns and flips. And like I have said, in those 4 town games I read you never were this radical in your thinking. | ||
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What about Rainbow doing somewhat the same thing towards the Lion King and Onegu? Then what do you think about this? On August 23 2013 12:43 johnnywup wrote: wait, why are people voting onegu? I haven't seen any case on him where I'm at. Come to think of it, I haven't seen much of him at all where I'm at >_> or at least he's not very memorable. has there been a case against him? If so, could someone link me to it? I'm still catching up but I think geript may have been right in voting crazo. he seem pretty scummy where I'm at (his case against kush...) | ||
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On August 23 2013 10:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Ugh fuck it I don't think we should get rid of Crazometer. He is unflinching in his stances towards the way the game should be played in his eyes as a noobie to TL, and seems relatively unconcerned by anyone who finds him scummy. I really wish he'd contribute more though because what he HAS contributed hasn't been worth much. ##Unvote ____________________________________________ WoS also dont thinks I am scum anymore here (but he also forgot Onegu who was one of his top scumreads, lol) On August 23 2013 08:45 WaveofShadow wrote: I disagree but meh. I have scumteam right now as Rayn/Crazy/and 1-2 of Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript. Hmm...maybe fuba as well but I'd have to re-read. This game IS closer to Basterd for him than Roulette. Fuba I hope we're not on separate teams because then I'll be sad we don't go 3/3! You don't want to make me sad do you? In other news I really want to consolidate tonight before I have to go to bed tonight. I hate not being around for deadline. And then he ends with this. On August 23 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Night guys. Koshi and Rayn are same. _________________________________________________ Like, the guy doesn't even know who is suspecting and we are 70 hours into the game | ||
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That's 9 people. And for some reason he is voting you. So he is town on Onegu, Kush and FT Ohhh wait. I forgot to add Onegu So the list is Rayn/Crazy/Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript/maybe fuba/Koshi/Onegu So WoS is townreads are Kush and FT Also the Snowman but he is voting on him. | ||
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Dnu, on who I should vote though. I think I would like WoS over the Snowman but I can see Vayne his argument being true that WoS is playing on his own. Also, personally I find the Snowman more scummy than WoS. But why would scum be so radical. Mehh. | ||
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On August 23 2013 17:29 Umasi wrote: Use the phrase EBWOP (edit by way of post) if you want to edit a post. Never, fucking ever, actually edit your post in game. I didn't catch what you edited specifically though Rayn/Crazy/Rainbows/Oats/yamato/Vayne/geript/maybe fuba/Koshi That's 9 people. And for some reason he is voting you. ^ that was the message before edit I think. | ||
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##vote: WoS On August 23 2013 17:14 Sn0_Man wrote: PS hes voting me to save his own ass which anyone wud do I think. Stupid Snowman is actually voting VA | ||
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On August 23 2013 14:07 Onegu wrote: I am ok with both, I agree with rayne they are scum together but for now I prefer sno. Will go over both filters for now for make sure. Sno looks worse at this point with his cases and votes, added to his n0 play. ##VOTE:sn0_man Yeah nothing wrong here. Did you like the case WoS made on rayn? Did you like WoS his n0 play? | ||
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Here I was more obvious. Just talk a lot about the the miller thing. Dnu. I can see why it is scummy if you don't accept that I made that statement as a disguised question but if I made that statement to lure out another claim. A bit sneaky was me replying to Yamato saying that I was more happy about my role because I really wanted to roll town over scum. But... How do I prove that. lol... | ||
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On August 23 2013 15:54 WaveofShadow wrote: Night guys. Koshi and Rayn are same. IS THIS A TRY TO CRUMB PARITY COP? | ||
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On August 23 2013 19:15 kushm4sta wrote: I think he said you are the same because he has some connection theory about you two being on the same scumteam. nonono, he is going to flip parity or antitown. I am 100% certain. | ||
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On August 23 2013 19:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: So did i. wtf is this bullshit. WoS is 100% scum. He has not pushed my lynch at all while having "confirmed red check on me". lol, 100% scum. He kind a tried to push you. I would actually respect a town cop that doesn't claim he is a cop as soon as he hits red. Last 2 games were silly in that regard. Anyway, if he flips Parity you will get your wih :D | ||
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WoS just checked rany/Koshi and got back "same". I really am the aware miller. So for me it is that rayn got framed/scum/unaware miller. rayn seems to also believe I am the aware miller and is extremely demotivated or at least plays like he is. WoS seemed to have believed that I am the aware miller, and he thinks that rayn is scum. | ||
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I think scum framed rayn. But yeah... rayn really played well if he is scum. I played my last 5 games with him, or even more because we both seem to participate in every game. And I really get a townvibe from him. But then again, I got a scumvibe from The snowman and from WoS.... | ||
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On August 23 2013 23:34 Sn0_Man wrote: If you aren't scum you've been sucking scum's dick so long all that comes out of ur mouth is... well never mind thats rude. And you being scum nicely avoids any chance of framing having occured so if I believe that it makes stuff simpler. In your favour you actually pretended to have your own mind for a few hours pre-lynch. Good answer mr. Snowman. But that previous post of yours was again so radical. So narrow. So confident. Happy? Town should not be happy at this point Mr Snowman. | ||
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On August 23 2013 23:45 Sn0_Man wrote: Town should also not be retards, so until you rectify your part in that or admit you aren't town you don't get to talk. What on earth would give you the impression that I'm happy? You just want to continue your dumb smear campaign. Like, you can't even man up and say shit like "Sn0 looks scummy cuz I think that post looks happy" you have to insinuate shit when you know it isn't true. Another good post. Mr Snowman is on fire. | ||
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On August 24 2013 04:14 Oatsmaster wrote: if you think rayn is so scum, why dont you want to just kill rayn tmr? Nope everything in my head says that rayn is town. But the Snowman. I don't really want to lynch him in case my head is wrong. Can't we find other scummy people? | ||
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On August 24 2013 06:40 johnnywup wrote: yeah I was catching up and this caught my eye. What the heck? If you're convinced rayn is scum why wouldn't you lynch him? You can't make association cases pre-flip, even with the red check on rayn. Speaking of which, I'd like to ask people not to judge rayn from the parity check only but mostly what they think of him, independent of the check. I'll be honest, his posting sort of reminds me of his posting in GoT (he was scum) in that he is very abrasive in his posting and shows that he can act pretty ballsy as scum. I wouldn't be surprised if he flipped scum, and the red check only strengthens my opinion. Yeah crappy post. I meant that I don't see rayn as scum yet. Bad post is bad. | ||
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On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote: I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it. Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats? ^ Who was in this town circle FT? PS: I realize we lost 2 blue roles already and the 3rd showed his hand. D: | ||
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On August 24 2013 15:24 kushm4sta wrote: GUIZ I THINK I JUST CRACKED THIS GAME!!! one of two possibilities must be true 1) rayne is scum 2) rayne is town both are pretty unlikely HE MUST BE 3P ZOMG ^ Kush so funny. | ||
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Oats got killed as NK by rayn as well in our GoT game. Problem is that there 100% certain is a framer and a GF, knowing we got 3 blue roles. Or there is an SK. So that either me or rayn got framed is likely. We need some really good activity from town this game please. Post your ideas! | ||
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On August 24 2013 23:33 Rainbows wrote: I hope everyone is on the same page with Vayne being pseudo-confirmed town? Yeah don't think crazo had the balls to buss him. | ||
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On August 25 2013 03:03 VayneAuthority wrote: yup I just realized that this would be yamato rolling scum for the 3rd game in a row...no wonder he doesn't give a shit lol Oats 3rd time medic as well. | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:10 Koshi wrote: You guys don't have a RB sadly D: | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:09 mkfuba07 wrote: And why we didn't rb rayn on n0? On August 25 2013 10:12 mkfuba07 wrote: Unless you actually believe I'm scum, don't throw me in with them. I thought you were roleplaying D: I love the Lion King. Best Disney movie. | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:18 kushm4sta wrote: scum might have a roleblocker. it's possible they decide not to rb the sk. it's possibile they learned about the sk on n1 Somebody would have claimed RB then? Unless they RB rayn on N0 and rayn was afraid to say something because it would be obvious he is the SK if after that 2 people die. CONSPIRACY THEORIES! VA is right. If there is only 1 death next night we know that the Lion King is probably speaking the truth. | ||
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1) VA is SK and got redchecked. 2) The Lion King is scum and is lying about vigi. 3) Yamato is scum and got redchecked. | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:58 raynpelikoneet wrote: vayne, i want your vote on someone. Vayne is voting yamato btw. | ||
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On August 25 2013 11:04 yamato77 wrote: Rayn you need to stop fakeclaiming cop Baby seal times? | ||
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On August 25 2013 11:05 yamato77 wrote: 1) I'm not scum 2) Rayn is not cop 3) There is no red check on me D: but rayn isn't going to do something this insane to save a townie. So VA is scum? | ||
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I don't have that town read on rayn anymore and I don't want to lynch somebody he wants to lynch. ##unvote ##vote: Onegu | ||
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WoS was on him + see Kush cases. (Not being mentioned by Crazo is interesting.) Also Onegu tried to go for a Kush lynch for policy? While Kush was doing wayyyyyyyyyyy better than in GoT and there Onegu wasn't on Kush but fully on me. | ||
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Because he acted like a crazy fucker and nothing what he said made sense. + Redcheck is redcheck. I said it last night. I don't want to lynch rayn but I can lynch one of his teammates if he is scum. Onegu sounds cool. | ||
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Some people have an higher percentage to be scum then others? You rolled to much scum in a row yamato D: | ||
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On August 24 2013 23:51 Rainbows wrote: VayneAuthority johnnywup <---- Pandas? Sn0_Man <---- Hodor? mkfuba07 FirmTofu <--- maybe mafia, if mafia with craze/mkfuba then decently good at distancing. Onegu Rainbows kushm4sta Koshi raynpelikoneet <--- lol yamato77 Yeah I like this list, a lot. I'd prefer Mkfuba but I guess I sheep for now. ##Vote: Yamato77 The towns on this list are pretty accurate imo. If we can add the Lion King to town now, I don't know if scum is going to confirm 3 townies. Makes it hard for them to lynch one of them. Out of the townies I like VA the least. I can see him flip red. I would not be surprised to see the scumteam be Onegu, Rainbows and VA. So if we decide to lynch Rainbows and he flips red, I would seriously look at VA next. On the other hand I could see Onegu, rain, FT be a scumteam. Or still the obvious Onegu, Yamato, The Snowman. Many possibilities left but I think Johnny is town. | ||
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On August 26 2013 08:40 yamato77 wrote: I'd feel more comfortable lynching Rainbows than Onegu. It seems like Onegu is out of commission or something, he hasn't even posted today. Plus, the wagon looks suspect given that it's popped up so suddenly. ##Vote: Rainbows Why the fuck? Did you read the cases from Kush? Do you think Kush is scum? Do you think the Lion King is scum? Do you think I am scum? | ||
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On August 26 2013 09:41 yamato77 wrote: I did not dodge your question. I have no idea who lion king is, but I explained why I don't like the Onegu wagon and don't trust you. I haven't trusted you since the beginning of the game. How many pages have you even read of this game? 6? | ||
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Everything fitted for Onegu being scum. Like everything. D: | ||
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On August 25 2013 10:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: nah you are scum dude. I'm a cop <3 On August 25 2013 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote: oh yamato is also scum.. You implied it. Even if that rant was complete garbage. | ||
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On August 26 2013 22:11 raynpelikoneet wrote: But why would i not shoot on N0 or N1? Why would i shoot Darthpunk? No need to speculate about that now. IF there is an sk, then we can revisit this conversation. | ||
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On August 26 2013 22:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also why do you defend vayne's argument on me having a red check on yamato aswell, as at the moment i claimed cop you said the above? I don't remember why I said that. But I defended Vayne previously because I rechecked your filter. I also said this a couple minutes before that: On August 25 2013 11:01 Koshi wrote: If rayn is speaking the truth then 1) VA is SK and got redchecked. 2) The Lion King is scum and is lying about vigi. 3) Yamato is scum and got redchecked. I THINK I might have said that because it made 0 sense that you would go after WoS if you had a redcheck on yamato. I know I realized that somewhere, but I don't remember if that was before or after I went to bed. | ||
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On August 21 2013 10:04 FirmTofu wrote: My overall thoughts: WoS and geript seem to have some sort of mutual camaraderie based on past games and the friendship they have formed through their hydra. Therefore, you can expect them to play irrationally when speaking of one another. I think we should make note of this. WoS is a real funnybunny. I don't like any of his opinions on how to handle N0. On this topic, rayn wins the argument handily. Remaining quiet on N0 is definitely mafia-favored play. There is no reason to silence ourselves when discussion is the greatest asset we have. However, I don't think this is as damning as rayn says it is. WoS looks scummy, sure, but his play is equally likely to be bad town as it is to be scum. Geript's meta indicates that geript may be scum this game. Town geript usually attacks and pushes like a monster. Geript this game has been relatively subdued. Vayne is not posting much and is not looking particularly scummy. Knowing Vayne, this is quite odd. Town Vayne usually likes to look scummy so that he won't get NK'd until endgame. Vayne in this game looks nothing like town Vayne. Koshi is looking scummy and stupid. Whenever Koshi looks scummy and stupid, he flips town. See: Titanic and all of his other town games. Whenever he is spot on with his reads and looks like he knows what he is doing, he flips scum. At best, he's a good vigi shot right now. Lynching him is not a good course of action. Kush is basically Koshi divided by 2. He just posts less, but his playstyle is very similar. Thus, he is also probably not the best lynch right now. After GoT, I'm not sure how to read rayn anymore. I thought I had him figured out after Titanic and his scum play in I Swear 2, but he played a solid scum game in GoT and threw me off. For the time being, he remains a volatile player that is more likely to hurt town than help it. I would not mind a vig shot on him, but I am finding it hard to read him right now. Saving for later. That's all I want to talk about for now. If anything else comes up, I'll be sure to let you know. Probably FT his best analysis post this game, you can actually find smart reads/ meta read in here, something you will not findin FT his filer after this opening post. FT didn't know how much towncred he had to build up in this game and started with an opening post that had to show some effort. I believe now that we were on 2 town wagons on day 1 and that town is/was his destructive self per usual. Scum FT saw this and his future post made sure town would keep selfdestructing. Example: When you look what he says about Vayne, you will notice that nothing has changed about Vayne his play, but FT never pressured VA after this post about his play. FT is very conservative about geript, a lot of “usually” and “maybes”. Kush, Koshi and rayn are given a townish read but nothing conclusive yet. Not the scummiest entries to a game, but this is a very thought through opening post that never got followed up upon. Or that thoughtprocess never got repeated/updated. On August 22 2013 05:05 FirmTofu wrote: I still think scum is betting that we don't reread dead player filters. I know I did in Titanic. Sno is pretty scummy independently of the NK anyway. I can't say the same for Rainbows. I would say the WIFOM still favors sn0 being scum over town. There are two possible scenarios: 1) If the scum team has a veteran leader, then DP may have been killed for his reputation. 2) If the scum team has no veterans, DP has to have been killed for his reads. I don't think you can say DP was looking extremely pro-town on N0. I really don't see players who are unfamiliar with his reputation killing him unless he was doing something right and they wanted to silence him. Veterans(People who are familiar with DP's repuatation): rayn Oats? geript? Vayne? yamato77? WaveofShadow? Is there anyone else? Therefore, if you believe one or more of these people are scum, then DP may have been killed for his reputation instead of his reads. Personally, geript and WoS are the scummiest on that list for me. geript due to meta and WoS for a weak defense/general apathy. I still find sn0 independently more scummy than the combined scumminess of geript and WoS. Based on your initial beliefs, you should be able to run through this logic and find out who exactly you should be voting. If you are hesitant to lynch any of the veterans, sn0 is your best bet. This is a scummy post. The conclusion FT made here is that the Snowman is scum because the scumteam has no veteran that respects DP his general play, thus the NK must have been because DP was right about the Snowman. Before this post there was nothing in FT his filter that suspected the Snowman. But this line of reasoning was enough the convince FT that the Snowman is scum. Now I already gave FT some flack for that post. So FT couldn’t vote for the Snowman yet. So FT makes this case. On August 23 2013 04:18 FirmTofu wrote: This is what Sn0 has to says right after afking for nearly 2 irl days. He wants to draw attention to the fact that no one has claimed roleblocked. Why would anyone want to draw attention to something so inconsequential? Possible Explanation: Sn0 is scum and he deliberately didn't roleblock N0 in order to get town to think that there is no roleblocker. Possible Motivation: Sn0 wants to roleblock someone N1 so that that person looks bad Day 2 when they claim that they were roleblocked. Town will ask said claimer how it is possible that he was roleblocked when there was no one roleblocked on N0. Because no one has brought it up throughout Day 1, he wins free town cred by pointing it out and simultaneously leading town into a pointless conversation. Yes, I admit a large part of this is speculation. However, if Sn0 is actually scum, I think this is exactly what they were planning. Isn't that exactly what you are doing? You're attacking Vayne and me because we are attacking you. You haven't been actually scumhunting at all this game. You just attacked a few random people in the beginning of the game to provide the illusion of scumhunting, then you afked to allow the thread to fester. Once a few people caught on to your bullshit, you de-lurk and attack the people who attacked you. ##vote: Sn0_man This case is even more ridiculous than the previous one. I didn’t make the link before but these 2 posts are the sole reason FT votes for the Snowman. After I read this case I thought “too obvious to be scum” but I am not so certain anymore, maybe he is even playing scum this way. Because town is retarded, so let's add some more retardation. FT got ALOT of flack after this post, but pushed it away by saying "scum is piling up on me". But it looks like it was town that saw through him. On August 23 2013 08:29 FirmTofu wrote: I think we are starting to form a strong town circle and scum is getting antsy trying to poke holes in it. Koshi, what are your thoughts on Oats? On August 24 2013 03:26 FirmTofu wrote: Outcomes Revised Outcomes Revised Outcomes 2.0 FT starts with saying that there is a “towncircle”, however when I asked him about who was in this towncircle I never got a response. But look at FT his filter, he says that FT, rayn, Koshi is a towncircle (maybe Oats, kush as well?) and then we had the tiresome effort from FT to list all the possibilities where rayn could be scum/framed/town/miller and Koshi is town/scum/SAM/framed or a combination. There is a quote from FT from the 24th of August where he said a vigi should shoot into Koshi/Rayn if I am not mistaken. Out of time atm but it is there iirc. I realize I was very wrong about Onegu, but I don’t want to lynch the Snowman anymore because I doubt FT and the Snowman are in the same scumteam. On the other hand, I am growing very distrusting of rayn. My head still says he is town, but I remember rayn harddefending FT when I said I was null on FT. I remember rayn saying he suddenly came to the conclusion that FT, Yamato and geript/the Snowman were scum due to elimination. However, he wants to go after the Snowman on day 3. + Show Spoiler + On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia: This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you. FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left. Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in. Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny. But then there is Vayne. The leader of the scums will probable be Rayn or Vayn probably. Head says Vayne. But I don't know. But I think it is Vayne. But I guess that rayn/vayn should be lynched as last? 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On August 27 2013 23:03 Sn0_Man wrote: well thats a WTF one. NSAM and SAM in same game. Somebody had fun with this setup. I rather obviously need to start from square 1 sooooo yeah. Why are you suddenly so sure I am SAM? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On August 24 2013 03:13 FirmTofu wrote: I'm going to run through a list of possibilities of what could have happened regarding the rayn/koshi situation. What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. What we need to be doing now is evaluating the probability of each of these respective outcomes and deciding whether a lynch into one of these two players will yield scum. + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2013 03:20 FirmTofu wrote: Revised Outcomes What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 5: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Scenario 6: Rayn is scum. Koshi is scum. Did I miss anything? + Show Spoiler + On August 24 2013 03:26 FirmTofu wrote: Revised Outcomes 2.0 What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 5: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Scenario 6: Rayn is scum. Koshi is scum. Scenario 7: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is scum. Scenario 8: Rayn is GF. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Did I miss anything? Scum trying to figure out why? This is a longshot but I think FT was actually geniunly interested as scum to figure out why rayn and me were coming back same. | ||
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On August 28 2013 01:04 Sn0_Man wrote: PS I could totally see yamato survivor mostly worried about being NK'd if he got too "useful" but fairly certain that he could stave off his own mislynch. Not that it matters. He partook in a fair bit of survivor claim discussion. This is a sexy read. It is really possible. I totally can see this. But I think he should be lynched after FT unless he claims right before Day 4. I won't believe any claim when he is on the chopping block next time. | ||
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On August 26 2013 08:39 Koshi wrote: The towns on this list are pretty accurate imo. If we can add the Lion King to town now, I don't know if scum is going to confirm 3 townies. Makes it hard for them to lynch one of them. Out of the townies I like VA the least. I can see him flip red. I would not be surprised to see the scumteam be Onegu, Rainbows and VA. So if we decide to lynch Rainbows and he flips red, I would seriously look at VA next. On the other hand I could see Onegu, rain, FT be a scumteam. Or still the obvious Onegu, Yamato, The Snowman. Many possibilities left but I think Johnny is town. | ||
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On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia: This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you. FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left. Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in. Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny. | ||
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On August 28 2013 03:33 FirmTofu wrote: Koshi is starting to look a lot worse than Sn0_man. He was in Titanic so he knows my meta. He knows I would never kill Rayn if I were scum. ##unvote ##Vote:Koshi HAHAHAHA. Yeah. This guy uses a scumkill to prove he is town. And then uses Titanic meta to prove he is not scum while disregarding the same Titanic meta he previously used to brand me town. Fuck you are funny. | ||
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On August 28 2013 03:40 Sn0_Man wrote: Tofu, part of this problem is that everything you are saying sounds like pre-prepared and rehearsed reasons why this NK makes you not scum. Its like you picked this NK specifically because it opened up all these defenses to you. Which is probably the case in all honesty. Glad to see rainbows calling off his FT lynch already though. Re-confirms my read on him I think. ^ so smart. Now we can be friends. | ||
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On August 28 2013 06:08 Sn0_Man wrote: Well if FT somehow flips town you are pretty clearly scum iunno. Won't happen tho. Well, if FT somehow flips town I am still pretty clearly town and very fucking ashamed I pushed 3 townlynches. | ||
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On August 28 2013 06:13 VayneAuthority wrote: i dunno i think ur town sn0_man but you nitpick over every little thing so i don't even care if you're town, just a nuisance Vayne why are your reads not strong yet? You could have some sort of read on this game? | ||
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On August 28 2013 06:16 VayneAuthority wrote: we can talk about why post game, I was trying something out. won't know how it went until end game I you WERE trying it out. Can't we talk about it now? | ||
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Then read his opening post again. Then read how he says him, rayn and me are a towncircle. Then read why he says I am scum. Anyway I am off to bed. | ||
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##vote yamato I will be very fucking sad if this guy turns out to be town or even survivor. But I can't decide between Mr Snowman and FT yet. If you are survivor. You better bring 100% scumreads + cases with your claim. | ||
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Yamato 95% FT 70% The Snowman 65% VA 60% Johnny 35% Rainbow 25% Kush 5% Lion King 0% Good night sleep changed it around again. Mr Snowman played too bad before today. He could be red for his play this game, I fucking said it before when I read your fucking previous games, why can't you play untunneled from the fucking start. FT should be red for his play though, but fuck it, guys that should flip red simply never do. Not saying that I wont lynch FT today, but fuck everything when you flip town FT. Your filter is a fucking monstrosity, your cases are fucking awful, only if Mr Snowman flips red you can at least say that your reads are somewhat decent. | ||
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That would mean that FT lost his passion for this game D: | ||
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On August 24 2013 15:22 FirmTofu wrote: The way I see it: 1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. On August 29 2013 11:09 FirmTofu wrote: Koshi is red: the only two possibilities are Koshi is scum or Koshi is SAM. Koshi is either scum lying about being SAM or he is really SAM. 2 options. There is no other option. Koshi is either lying or he isn't. 50/50. Do you get it now? Why do you keep repeating this? Your cases this game are so incredible weak and illogical. | ||
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7 posts in this day. All 1 liners and 0 were to help us figure out the game. All this after a day we decided to spare you and lynch a townie instead because you showed some interest. Gooby please... | ||
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On August 29 2013 19:17 Rainbows wrote: O hai guise. I see we're lynching Yamato. This looks like fun! Taking zero credit for this lynch regardless of flip. ##Vote: Yamato77 Could you be less fucking obnoxious? Thank you. | ||
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On August 29 2013 20:03 Rainbows wrote: GF + two millers for ONE cop? No way. shhhh dont make alaksalam mad again :D | ||
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I love you as well sweetiepie. | ||
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I doubt it as well. But we will see. | ||
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I claim Timon. Kush can be Pumbaa. We will miss you buddy D: | ||
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Maybe it was scum trying to trick us voting into sn0 & FT. | ||
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On August 30 2013 03:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Well, I will say that that lynch should be a *huge* source of information informing our next lynch. Full details after NK I think since there being 1 less player around to confuse things. PLEASE if I somehow get NK'd (unlikely I'd guess) seriously analyze the voting on that lynch, all the way from the beginning. hahahahahahahahahahaha | ||
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Reasons: Manipulating the thread to lynch WoS Manipulating the thread to lynch Onegu Getting attention from scum Crazo. Getting attention from scum Yamato. Being the mastermind for the rayn NK. Being the Blue Beetle. | ||
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Anyway, ignore blue beetle. How do you feel about a VA lynch? | ||
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Look at Vayne his filter, it's useless, there is nothing pro-town, while in Titanic Vayne trolled but had also left and right pro-town tinted posts that were smart and he got killed for it. This game he does a LOT of soft pushing people. He saw a scumslip on Kush, found rayn scummy, said Wos was probably antitown, pushed Onegu slightly, pushed you for that interaction about Crazo, has pushed sn0. The only townreads he gave were the Lion King and me, because of our claims. Then there are 2 things I don't like in his filter. But I am holding those back. | ||
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It's not like VA was pressuring town to vote yamato the day he was lynched. VA added his vote after the 3 obvious townies and yourself. | ||
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So VA could you tell me exactly what you were thinking while making these 2 posts? On August 27 2013 22:40 VayneAuthority wrote: lol what a terrible kill. I was saving my opinion for after night, but I was going to vote rayn today after that sn0_man argument. thank you to scum for dat one On August 28 2013 05:03 VayneAuthority wrote: well here have a vote ##vote:sn0_man toodles | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:18 Sn0_Man wrote: We are approaching lylo (though not QUITE there yet). Which means that Town reads are almost as important as scum reads. Which means I'm not accepting this. If you wish to dispute my confirmed towniness, you *must* come up with a reason for how yesterday's voting went down that includes me being scum because we NEED every confirmed town we can get. It is quite simple: when there are 2 serious wagons and 1 is on scum, THE OTHER IS TOWN. I am fully into solve the game mode. I don't care if you don't like some of my posts or whatever. We are at the point where the game is solvable for town and dipshitting around isn't helping. Proving yourself town would go a long way towards winning the game btw so you can start there. See I like what you are saying, but when you are scum with johnny/yamato I doubt that you 3 can start a town wagon while there is Kush/koshi on yamato and VA/FT on sn0. | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:23 VayneAuthority wrote: first one is pretty self explanatory second one is part of my experiment FUCK THAT EXPERIMENT. How I see it. 1) I wanted to kill rayn because he looked bad in that argument with the Snowman. 2) I vote the Snowman. = This is strange, what was that thing that you saw? Because it must have been something that made rayn scum and the snowman town. | ||
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Bonus: Yamato was suggesting the same thing. | ||
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It would be extremely bad if the Snowman is actually scum because he played fucking insanely scummy but random events are helping him. | ||
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On August 31 2013 02:30 Sn0_Man wrote: If you read the VC's in my long post, the development between the first votecount where yam is at 2 and everybody else is at 1 to the 2nd one where I'm the primary lynch candidate with 4 votes includes yamato SELECTING ME AS HIS MISLYNCH OF CHOICE over an easy option like tofu (who in your scenario is town) who he had been calling bad for a while or koshi who already had a (in your scenario) town vote on him and would thus have been pushable to 4 votes almost instantly. There is just no way. As I said, scum jumped on the chance to sheep confirmed town (fuba) and vote for me, since they are happy to vote for a townie. I agree. Shit keeps happening in your favor. | ||
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Do Ctrl+f and type in "vayne". Rainbow has been harddefending Vayne through the entire game. Looks townie from Rainbow his side I think. | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423047&user=johnnywup¤tpage=2 The guy had 4.5 pages in a game where he was alive till the end. Does almost nothing but is for some reason always hunting scum. GoT was wayyyy harder than this game. I don't know... | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:33 Sn0_Man wrote: K but you have rainbow as town mostly right koshi? Reasons? A stupid reason is maybe his reaction to alaksalam coming in thread and "confirm" me? I see scum being only butthurt in the scumQT. But recently he is backing off on that read, which is hard to do as scum when mods enter the scene. His tunneling on the Lion King at the start. After the confirm he confirmed his town/scumreads and I agreed with that list. You could say he was following thread sentiment at that time but he for sure wasn't on the Lion King. If Rainbows is scum he isn't stuck in 1 mindset. He is superflexible on everything. | ||
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It's the perfect balance. | ||
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He has believed VA is town since Crazo made that post about him. He believed the Lion King was scum after he made that case. Don't forget that Kush also had the Lion King/Onegu as scum after Crazo was shot. Rainbows had the Lion King before that as scum. Nothing bad about that. Rainbows is just not scummy to me. If I have to compare Rainbows with FT/Johnny/VA I wouldn't want to lynch Rainbows over any of them. | ||
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On August 31 2013 03:56 Sn0_Man wrote: Ouch. Sure. Maybe u make the point that reads should change then >_> Reads should change on new information, but as scum it is shithard to do so because it is hard to understand how impactful that piece of information is. FT is still crying that I am SAM or scum. So lynching me is 50/50... He can't evaluate all the other things I have done/not done. FT in Titanic was never tested to do so, so I have no clue he can do it as scum. But if he is town atm, he fucking can't do it as town, and I know he is somewhat capable as town. Maybe FT/johnny/Yamato was the scumteam and they are simply giving up or so... Dnu. | ||
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My scummers: FT/Johnny/VA My maybe scummers: Sn0 | ||
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He is been being horrible as town as well. imo VA best lynch. | ||
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rayn MVP for lynching WoS tbh. | ||
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On August 23 2013 03:13 VayneAuthority wrote: If you can find a decent reason why you would post this Then right after you posted that, you go and post this and find yourself back at this I don't see what you hope to gain out of this as town. You know what's going to happen, I'm going to be annoyed at you, and you KNOWINGLY pursue that to fuck with town. Show me in any way how this is pro town and hell, ill vote for myself LOL Read this lol. The Snowman totes town. | ||
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But you think there aren't 2 millers Rainbows? in this insane set up? | ||
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I just need you to want to lynch VA and johnny before me. That's all that matters for me. Also, would I have killed rayn? I am pretty sure I could have had him on my side till forever. | ||
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imo you are not scum for reasons I stated before and now that FT has put so much pressure on you. | ||
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I am also convinced it is either johnny or VA. I don't need 48 hours to decide which on goes first. | ||
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He is the blue beetle. | ||
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On September 01 2013 22:54 VayneAuthority wrote: it should be obvious with that flip that i'm not scum Please point it out Mr Blue Beetle. | ||
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On September 01 2013 23:04 Rainbows wrote: Can night end once scum sends in the NK? Like fo shizzle. *snaps fingers* Why you so impatient? Hakuna matata. | ||
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On August 26 2013 21:35 raynpelikoneet wrote: I have concluded that yamato, FirmTofu and one of johnnywup/Sn0_man are mafia: This is mostly due to process of elimination. I don't think there is any chance of mkfuba or Koshi to be scum. I do not think kushmasta is scum. Rainbows is probably town because of the following. In our newbie game Rainbows was inactive at the start of the game. When he finally got in thread, the first thing he did was to check scum QT for what is going on. I do not think he would do this "lol you can't be cop, lynch rayn!" if he was mafia, he would have checked the scum QT first and he would see how stupid his accusation on me is. vayne if you are town i suggest you pick your game up because you are another questionmark, although johnnywup and Snodude look a lot worse than you do, and yamato is accusing you. FirmTofu did consider Snoman as a lynch over Onegu. There were 2 candidates who could have been possibly lynched over Onegu last day. They were yamato and Rainbows. FirmTofu said nothing about them, and when i brought up Rainbows he went over his filter and voted for him in the end. When Onegu corrected me and said yamato is actually the only one we can get a lynch on, FirmTofu left. He did not even look at who were realisticly possible to lynch, and when we got our shit together with Onegu, he left. Snodude wasted his vote. totally. This added to his play before makes him very likely mafia. johnnywup's reasons for voting on D2 are horrible. geript was scummy. Very likely mafia. snodude and yamato do not address each other like ever.. yamato soft pushed Sno, who has been looking scummy all game, but does notthing to question him, does nothing to find out his alignment. yamato also has not even tried to lead the town into any direction. He just comments on some things going on into the game, makes some random comments that do not help the town at all, does not try to push any lynches for real, does not defend/attack anyone. He is a definition of blending in. Pick from those guys on D3. i'd say FirmTofu and yamato are definitely scum. Then one of johnnywup / Snoman. I'd place my bets on Sno over johnny. This is the only reason why I think VA is town. VA can you make 1 effort and tell us why Johnny or Mr Snowman are scum? Tell me your 2 main suspects. plz plz plz plz plz plz | ||
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Mr "confirmed town" on day 2 is a baddie. | ||
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Arfff am I going to need to reread that? DDDDDDDDDDD: | ||
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I was going to lynch VA next. Thx host & Cohosts! | ||
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So many hosts don't do that. | ||
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