EPTAs a new player I'm not really sure what hydras have to do with anime but I'd love to get involved and play with you guys!
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As a new player I'm not really sure what hydras have to do with anime but I'd love to get involved and play with you guys! | ||
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On August 15 2013 16:59 Umasi wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=423708 That newbie game needs another newbie player, so you could consider checking that out, before you go into a normal game. Thanks. I think I'll hang out here as well though. I've always considered myself a bit of a Kanji Tatsumi and would love the opportunity to finally live it out. | ||
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 . I'm unsure what really happens next as I've mainly just played these in person, but around now we would go around the circle with each person claiming they were vanilla characters in order. I'll start. I'm Crazometer and I'm a Citizen of Inaba. | ||
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Begin super strat v2 -Engage in enough discussion that everyone knows you are alive -Watch people closely -Do not tell people that they are being watched, lest they alter their behaviour -When an iron--clad, heck even just credible, case can be presented tell the world -Only attempt to direct power roles when armed with a specific strategy and high level of certainty -Should the conversation stagnate, then break above rules to get the ball rolling On the upside in the meantime I've been able to garner a fair bit of information about the TL atmosphere and should now be able to aim my posts more appropriately. Any q's send them this way and I'll answer when they don't conflict too heavily with the above rules (I am happy to talk about myself). If that doesn't butter your biscuit then I am sorry. =( Crazo out | ||
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On August 21 2013 19:24 Oatsmaster wrote: whos scum? And what do you think about WoS case on Rayn and Rayn's case on WoS? I can't really keep up with anything WoS says, it all just seems to slip out of my head. What that says of the quality, who knows. Maybe I need to pay more attention. Ryan is spraying all over the joint and I'm not inclined to take him too seriously at this point but it pushes discussion along so I am happy. I need to go over the thread again and work out who this death would benefit. Any group thoughts welcome <3 | ||
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He agrees that in theory I am a good kill, going from my behaviour so far in the game I would agree. I'm sure you've all witnessed the damage that can occur when a lurker makes it into the later rounds and you have nothing to base your judgements off. However, he suggests that we direct our intentions elsewhere, I believe this to be for the following reasons. -From my lack of activity he believes me not to be a blue role, that is neither important as an ally nor an enemy -He feels confident as I am a new player that should he need to later on in the game he will be able to -Manipulate me into following whatever narrative he decides to come up with -Convince others into voting for me when the situation is looking dire for his alignment For me this isn't really a townie attitude, he doesn't seem interested in my alignment either way and is happy for someone to be lynched. Perhaps he aims to take out another strong player, similar to DP. I've been posting on a daily basis, so I can't honestly believe that he would expect me to be modkilled sooner or later. ##vote Kushm4sta On the upside, I have today off so am open to a bit more chat. | ||
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##vote Kushm4sta | ||
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On August 22 2013 15:42 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah kush is town. I feel better about my current vote choice now. How can you be so sure? If you check his filter there really isnt much of substance at all. His longest post (excluding the list) is probably three lines and most of it lacks reasoning. | ||
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On August 22 2013 16:16 Koshi wrote: 1) Crazometer, kush find you a shitty lynch because it is a shot in the dark. You could flip scum but most of the fucking time around here lurkers and baddies like yourself flip town. I am currently having the same mindset on that. 2) What? Why would he care you are a blue role? What do you mean? 3) Conspiracy theory. Also fucking bullshit. ______________________________________________________________ Horrible case. Contribute more and about more people please. 1) I can understand that. I was under the impression that a lynch all lurkers meta was in play. From the games I've played in the past it can be very detrimental to have quiet scum make it to the end. If he doesn't adhere to that, then I suppose nothing is wrong. 2) Once again a meta statement I guess. Newer PR players tend to actively seek advice or start discussion about their particular role. As to why he would care, surely it is self evident that each player should be interested in the roles of others. 3) In my experience it is easier to have a mix of players that you know well and not at all if you are a scum player. It can enable all sorts of emotive plays at the later stages of the game. I'd rather not spend too long discussing this as it doesn't seem particularly popular and therefore is nonconstructive. If a few others agree that he appears suspicious or find some evidence to support the theory then I would be happy to go down this road again. I'm not going to put myself on the stake over a weak theory. | ||
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On August 22 2013 17:04 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sadly here this apparently only applies to scum and town players should not be interested in other people's roles. I was just going along the lines of thought that knowledge is power, regardless of the side that you are on. As a townie it is helpful to know (well suspect) if one of the more important roles is going off track or if you need to nudge them a bit in the right direction. I can definitely follow you though if you are suggesting that our knowledge should not come at the cost of scum knowledge for most cases. | ||
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On August 22 2013 17:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Have you played forum mafia before? Facebook mafia! But we are less fanatical. | ||
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As for geript he mentions me in 70% of his posts when I think I was within the reasonable levels of afkness. I think I only went 18 hours without posting. Otherwise it seems strange that he asks for other peoples scum reads without providing much of substance himself. He seems to nitpick on small details rather than being a big picture player. The make me care comment struck me as a bit odd but in context it doesnt seem too bad. | ||
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On August 22 2013 21:34 Koshi wrote: What about his other posts? Do you find him sincere in his posting or is he playing games? How much do votes weigh in these games? Do people tend to jump around or are they taken fairly seriously? In the case that they are serious I'm going to say this retaliation to my mild post about you reads of scumdog millionaire. | ||
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On August 22 2013 22:42 Koshi wrote: Some people jump around, some people let their vote stick. I don't understand what the bolded part means. My main motivation was to use that phrase . The point I was trying to get to was I felt that geript was jumping the gun a bit by dropping his vote on me. I was of the mind that the catalyst may have been me expressing some doubts about him and that he took it too personally which tends to be a Shadow tell. A few other people harassed him lightly as well though so I can't go too far down that line of thought. | ||
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Sorry for my lack of activity but I stayed back at uni today and Friday nights  :glug: Eurgh that post was a mess forgive me. | ||
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Otherwise, sn0 and vayne are probably the most suspicious to me. The pointed out sn0 attitude flip (against other threads) just doesn't feel right, he seems to bounce around from high to low spirited too much as well. Something about Vayne doesn't smell right either so I'll look through his filter and see if anything pops up but I'll probably get what I search for. | ||
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Self aware is hard to play and hard to leverage in your favour so it is an understandable point. +1 Add some decent breadcrumming (not quoteworthy) in the survivor claim discussion. +1 On August 20 2013 23:24 Koshi wrote: Meh, dnu if I should claim now or later. Actually wanted to claim with my first post but decided to wait a bit. But I am the self aware miller guy. Sounds weak. Trying to act not overly interested (WIFOM scum play). Page 16 getting pretty late, occurs after some light pressure from rayn. -1 Very consistently anti WOS for the whole thread but it seems that those thoughts were shared by many ~0 On August 23 2013 22:19 Koshi wrote: Fuck it. I am going to go with rayn is still town. Makes a call rather than remaining undecided. I'm unsure on what occasions, if any, that as a scum he would claim rayn is scum. If he is indeed SAM I wouldn't put too much weight on his call but would agree with it. ~0 Rest of thread -- general town play +2 Total: +3 If I had to, I'd say that he was being honest. Well that was pretty inconclusive/uninformative, I wouldnt've posted it if I hadn't been typing it as I went along. I flipped through a few more of his pages but nothing struck me. | ||
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Pages 1-2 of his filter give a strong townie vibe, but beyond shooting down yamato there isn't much contribution. On August 23 2013 09:47 VayneAuthority wrote: and back to square one, the proactive thing again. A lot of people that like repeating stuff in this game like it somehow sounds better the second time. I've easily discredited everything you've said so far so I'll leave it at that. If you have anything new i'll be glad to demolish that too. Cocky, anti-discussion. On August 24 2013 02:40 VayneAuthority wrote: andd checkmate. What alignment am I again when I look really scummy? Oh that's right, town. why do you need a case so badly to decide of somebody is scum or not? Can't think on your own without sheeping a case to make yourself look decent? Bias is pretty much the definition of my last post; you are arguing with me about what I am doing when yamato is doing the same exact thing then asking me why he is scummy? How does that make any sense? Yamato contributing more is completely subjective so not even going to comment on that. Cocky, anti discussion. As one of the town you tend to have a stronger passion and more of an urgency in your scumhunting. I'm not really seeing any of that here. He seems to be happy, perhaps even prefer, to have others not agree with him. On August 24 2013 02:53 VayneAuthority wrote: How is that meta? It's a simple fact. Check any game I've ever played in. When nobody suspects me, I have been scum more often than not. When people say I look scummy I'm town because scum need to try and make garbage tier arguments on the less tryhard players since that's all they can really do. Why do you care how we got to the end result? The fact of the matter is yamato did no more than me in getting a scum lynched yesterday, anything other than that is your completely biased opinion. I'll contribute on my own grounds, until I know at least one scum there is very few people I trust right now It really all comes off cocky and lone rangerish. At first I thought he was a strong silent type but now I'm leaning towards a red or black role. Maybe he just had a bad day . | ||
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Regardless of that I still don't really get the line you are trying to push. If someone counterclaims then we know something is rotten between 1 of 2 people (cop doesnt have to check either of them, bodyguard probably shouldn't protect either of them). In the case of no counterclaim you become a 'semi-safe' townie. If as scum you claim then there is a town counterclaim you are in for a bad time. As for drawing attention to yourself, that didn't seem to make any impact this thread. To be adventurous let's investigate an alternate reality -No SAM claim -Rayn and Koshi return same What does Koshi now do? Start pushing a case against Rayn with no evidence? | ||
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I am also interested. I'm confident it wont be a case of the rayn train stopping at all stations. FT seemed a bit bizzare in his explanation before but I'm unsure what to think of oats. | ||
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