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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 20:25 GMT
#562
For the record, Koshi is full of it and I'm more than a little suspicious that rayn scumslipped not so long ago.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 20:34 GMT
#567
On August 21 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 04:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 03:59 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol. third scum in the bag.

I hope it is the sn0wman?

What makes you say that?

Well it's mufassa, kush, the snowman or me. Kush and that evil guy from the Lion King doesn't seem very scummy.

Do you agree on what i said on snodude or not?

When asked about it he said
On August 21 2013 04:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 04:36 Sn0_Man wrote:
On August 21 2013 04:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 04:04 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2013 04:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 21 2013 03:59 Koshi wrote:
On August 21 2013 03:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol. third scum in the bag.

I hope it is the sn0wman?

What makes you say that?

Well it's mufassa, kush, the snowman or me. Kush and that evil guy from the Lion King doesn't seem very scummy.

Do you agree on what i said on snodude or not?

What post of yours are you referring to here?

there was no post. was trying to bait Koshi saying something in case he was mafia. :D
nothing to see here.

That is incredibly insincere and IMO could very very easily be a scumslip. Him and Koshi communicating in scum QT (or even just him posting in the QT forgetting Koshi couldn't see it there).

Yes, that is mildly conspiracy-theory but other stuff fits like how adamant and certain rayn has been on a variety of things (Koshi town, WoS, scum, etc) when only scum can know things like this for certain. And how insanely spammy and dogged he has been, quite possibly in a bid to essentially take over the thread single handedly. And his cries for vig shots.

Sure this could be coincidence but it lines up better than pretty much anything else I can think of. I re-read your filter WoS and while it looked a bit off it wasn't explicitly scummy the way I saw it and it was very far from "CERTAIN SCUM SHOOT SHOOT SHOOT".
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 20:37 GMT
#568
PS Scum rayn fits incredibly well with scum koshi too.

Although it would be really weird for them to be scumbuddies 2 games in a row.

In other news there is a seriously limited number of people posting in this thread.

@Rayn what makes you think geript is scum?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 21:04 GMT
#570
Not that I haven't flung my share of shit at a decent variety of players this game, but if we take a look at rayns filter he has called the following people scum:
Me,
Geript,
WoS,
Rainbows,
Oats,
On August 21 2013 02:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 02:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
yeah its all WoS didnt answer me.
and then you referenced it with another game where he was town and said why his non-answering made him scum.
Thats all.

no it's not. you are probably mafia.-

and DP
On August 20 2013 23:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Holy fuck, is DP scum aswell?


In other words, every person who has posted anything worth mentioning except Koshi. Pressuring a variety of people is fine but rayn has already demonstrated an incredible level of certainty regarding the scumminess of at least WoS/Me/Rainbows and the others were pretty strong language for a while as well.

I just currently don't see rayn being helpful to town. I see him bidding for dominance in the thread in a way that doesn't seem conducive to success in an N0 start if he believed what he was saying as well. And I see him doing a lot of "Oh yeah X is totally scum" without justifying it at all (the only time he ever justified an opinion was on WoS). It doesn't fit to me, right now.

Still waiting on more people to seriously contribute to thread.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 21:14 GMT
#572
Crazometer has 3 posts in game. They looked terrible but noobs also have a history of bad first thread entrances. I still call him a solid vig shot atm but right now I want one of Koshi or Rayn dead tonight to have their flip as information towards the first lynch...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 21:19 GMT
#575
On August 21 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote:
So you make a preflip association between me and rayn because rayn doesn't call me scum. lololol.

Actually, I'm hoping for a flip so that I can make that association reliable.
On August 21 2013 06:16 Koshi wrote:
The guy is scumhunting.

If only. I too can call every person in the thread scum without the slightest justification beyond a single person. I choose not to, however, since I'd rather like town to win.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 20 2013 21:24 GMT
#577
On August 21 2013 06:17 Koshi wrote:
I also see a tendency where you propose retarded lynches while you are already making up excuses when they flip town.

I'll readily admit that I see both sides of my arguments before proposing them. It makes it hard for me to really be certain about scum sometimes, and that is a very real weakness to my play.

In other news, I notice a tendency of yours to say "dnu" whenever you are asked a question and kinda deflect it with some seriously wishy-washy garbage. Thoughts?
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 14:55 GMT
#1037
Huh thread is shorter than expected after I AFKed for like 36 hours. Imagine if rayn wasn't prone to triple posts.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 15:07 GMT
#1041
On August 22 2013 18:56 Koshi wrote:
the Snowman his games:

Mexican Standoff mafia - Town. Full of 1 liners and an I don't give a fuck attitude.

Boardwalk empire mafia - Town This is pro-town posting and I don't see the Snowman be so extreme like he is in this game. At the end he says he was happy with his game, so I don't see why he decided to be a total nutcase this game.

Newbie Mini Mafia - Town cop Again superb play.

Newbie Mini Mafia XXXV - Town The link brings you to the second page of his filter. Look at the first post there. Then look at the Snowman his filter this game.
___________________________________________________________________________

After filterdiving the Snowman I am sad. The guy can play superb mafia and decided to play really shitty this game. I can almost not believe that now that he rolled scum for the first time he would play like this. But why is he playing so bad?

##unvote
##vote: The Snowman


Pick your shit up dude. Pick it up or scumclaim.

This is the funniest post I've read in a while. OMG Sn0 so good at mafia but he hasn't caught scum this game he must be scum himself!

A) I'm awful at this game. I am aware of the fact. I've never played "Superb" in my life.
B) Its D1... Most of my good analysis traditionally centres around votes and blue-powers.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 15:27 GMT
#1046
Did I miss something or was *nobody* roleblocked N0?

That seems important...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 15:38 GMT
#1050
NVM I just assumed town had more than the possible 1-shot JoaT roleblock. No possible JK or RB for town wasn't expected.

Still, no scum roleblocker (most likely).

If nothing else, the lack of any roleblocking means that KP-protection roles (if they exist) know more about the chances of their protection being successful (considering the fact that KP is personal and RB-able in this setup).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 16:03 GMT
#1068
On August 23 2013 01:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:
Yamatooo. I'm not sure if that one good post in the beginning should get yamato off the hook for being completely absent this game. I supposed I could lynch him.

Geript. Absent and stuff. Not involved in anything. I suppose I could lynch him.


Crazy. Smurf pretending to be noob? He came back to save himself from modkill so yeah I could lynch him.

Koshi. Could lynch him.

I asked you about this earlier. Why do you not want to lynch WoS any more? What made you change your mind?
I agree with your reads on yamato and geript.

As far as I can tell, the only people who put any stock whatsoever in your case on WoS are you and Kosheep. WoS's early game play may have been dumb/questionable but I really don't see it as scummy.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 16:22 GMT
#1074
I wish Vayne/Tofu/Yamato would post more. All 3 are hypothetically solid mafia players as far as I know and they are at 2 page filters with little/no contribution. I'd be inclined to vote some pressure on to one of them if there was much to decide between the 3...

Also Vayne's last post was painful:
On August 22 2013 11:24 VayneAuthority wrote:
Like there's zero reason for any town player to be throwing shit on me right now. I'm not even close to being up for lynch discussion and all it serves to do is throw around suspicion to support later lynches and confuse town more to serve the scum agenda.

Its like a pre-emptive OMGUS. Anybody who calls attention to him is automatically acting in scum's interests or something.

PS Kush why the 180 on tofu? I didn't really get your reasoning...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 16:29 GMT
#1075
Actually, lets try lynching tofu. See how that goes.

Tofu hasn't done anything all game, his only "contribution" is to push a lynch on me based on who DP wanted to lynch at time of death. He pushed very softly and has done NOTHING else.

##Vote: FirmTofu

If nothing else I may succeed at summoning him :/
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 16:59 GMT
#1080
On August 23 2013 01:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
snoman what do you think of the fact that WoS has been trying to form a read on you the whole game and either dodged giving the read or said "i dunno" the whole game.

rayn why is asking questions of everybody non-stop without providing any new or interesting info something you consider acceptable to do? Last I checked you aren't Socrates.

Judging people based on their opinion of me isn't easy I'm too emotionally invested in the answer for it to be a reliable way for me to rate people. Obviously people who call me scum look worse to me because I know I'm not scum. People who call me town are right so I'm more inclined to agree with them on other things. That is simply how stuff works.

A topic on WoS that I can speak to is his opinions on Crazo. Crazo felt like real lynchbait and people pushing for his lynch consequently (to me) looked scummy (geript, wos). However, re-reading Crazo looked like maybe he received a bit of "coaching" (aka scum-qt hints and tips) which would explain a lot. On the other hand, it does still look like WoS and geript were pushing an easy lynch that could still easily be "the easy mislynch". Queue WIFOM about scum being afraid to start a mislynch.

Still leaning town on WoS. At least he is here and posting and most of his posts look town-motivated.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:12 GMT
#1082
NVM I lied yamato is doing stuff and I agree with practically everything he is saying o.O

I'm happy with a Vayne/FT lynch though current preference is FT.

Also still want to lynch Koshi but nobody else really does. Also I want to lynch rayn but I think that's because he is annoying. hard to tell.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:29 GMT
#1087
Well I *could* flame the hell out of the whole thread but you guys got mad at me for that N0 and besides that doesn't usually end up too well. It doesn't really help me make reads very often.

Pressuring you is pointless. You just spam your way out of it.

I'd be happy to leave tofu alone if he did towny things, instead of taking easy pot-shots from the sidelines when he can be bothered, and otherwise doing nothing at all. His only contribution was to bring up NK WIFOM, which for all we know could have been the whole goal of the NK (which would point to him being scum). In his current state he deserves a lynch. I'd put quotes from his filter but its 1.5 pages long so what is the point? Read it yourselves.

Vayne is in FT's shoes (plus look at his last post I quoted o.o) but I have to pick 1 person to vote and pushing both their lynches seems weak for now.

If you want though I can try to get you lynched. That gives a free pass to the lazy players in the thread but that doesn't seem to bother you. I'm hoping for a more balanced distribution of posts across the thread as opposed to 12 pages of spam from any 1 player (you).

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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:33 GMT
#1089
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:43 GMT
#1094
On August 23 2013 02:35 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2013 02:33 Sn0_Man wrote:
My favourite part was how Vayne's tactic this game is to instantly attack and vote for anybody who so much as mentions him in a negative manner.


Yea we already know, you posted that in your last post. less repetitive ad hom attacks would be great.

Why as town would you do that then when you know how I'm going to react? how is that pro-town at all?

How is it remotely acceptable or town motivated to say "I'm untouchable anybody who attacks me is scum"? Thats easily a scum-favoured atmosphere to create. There was no ad-hominem, I'm commenting on the terribleness of your play.
Scum-hunting, in fact. Something you MAY wish to attempt (you haven't started yet I notice). K maybe now there is ad-hom.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
August 22 2013 17:53 GMT
#1097
Wat? So your plan is "Nobody suspects me. Therefore I'm untouchable. As soon as somebody suspects me, they are scum since they were the first!".

In other words, nobody is ever allowed to suspect you. This is incredibly pointless. You still have yet to meaningfully contribute, all you have done is sit around, call WoS 3rd party (carefully avoiding angering anybody who thinks he is scum OR town) and then instantly attacking both yamato and now me as soon as we mention your name. Literally the only people you have attacked are people who just mentioned you...

You have steadfastly NOT contributed to the game.
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