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On October 02 2013 00:26 kitaman27 wrote: I'm not following you Mocsta, are you saying iamp is a good lynch or bad one? iamp is a good lynch. Im saying its ridiculous to consider me in that group; when a tell that makes iamp scum, is completely applicable for me being town. | ||
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Im gonna head off soon. I thought there was something you wanted to ask me? Worse comes to worse, I will answer when I wake up. Please send through whatever you had in mind. | ||
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On October 02 2013 00:46 justanothertownie wrote: What I wanted to know was basically answered by now. The other reason was your vote which will be on FT now I guess? You don't come back before the lynch or do you? I am back about 1 to 2 hrs before deadline, but of course have to catch up on thread. I am leaving my vote on FT, as I don't want him to ignore my case and then AFK for 24hrs. FT or iamp > Stutters: is my preference. I have some concern about Stutters but dont have to time to double check it pre-lynch. Namely, (1) Kita raised a good point about inactive Stutters, really could be either. He is that useless. (2) IIRC, my scum reads have called Stutters scummy.. now, it could be distancing/bussing.. but with a KP on the line, I find this unlikely. I need to double check what iamp/FT/risen have said about stutters --> and there is no way I can get this done before lynch deadline. Therefore, I have enough doubt cast to prioritse Iamp > Stutters. There is no way iamp is town. + Show Spoiler + As an aside, I am one of the few ppl that read iamp as scummy when he is town. I didnt get that feeling this game when he subbed in. | ||
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On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote:I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. /sarcasm: Nice defense..... I'm getting concerned now though, because I know I am town. I also know Geript had a solid case on you; and I dont recall you tearing it down. (Just checked filter, and you definitely didn't respond to it) Yet you parade in here, trying to control the lynch. On September 27 2013 11:33 Risen wrote: Where did your FT read go?After Cephiro, Mocsta, and FT are dead Geript should probably be the next to go. No way a townie tries to do anything to this Cephiro train. On top of this it comes off as a scum Geript trying to nitpick town posts in an attempt to get a mislynch. He saw something he felt he could exploit (he knew marv was town, and he knew marv would flip with the daypost) and is now trying to push it. | ||
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YOU COMPLETELY IGNORED THIS POST. On September 30 2013 11:50 geript wrote: First off, Risen calls out Ceph for bad reasoning which is EASY TO DO as scum on scum. The important difference is how he follows up. He's not interested in pressuring him. He's not interested in trying to throw the "public town eye" further towards him. He doesn't do shit about it. Instavote and insta switch. Again SUPER EASY justification to switch his vote off of scum. As town, I don't give a fuck who I vote for; I'll throw my weight around as I want and pressure like a hammer in thread or in vote. Nor do I generally care who the fuck votes for who because it doesn't help me. But one thing I know is that throwing out an odd vote is odd and it's fine to pressure for that but justifying voting for someone who you "don't believe the hype" on and then instaswitch on them just for a weird vote is ridiculously odd and scummy. Next Risen tries to discredit Yam despite the fact that the only way Yam is scum pulling this off is if Coag is also scum. 2 people pulling that type of play as scum is gutsy and stupid and puts you at risk for very little reason. He's not furthering the discussion or pushing a point other than throwing dirt. SCUM SCUM SCUM Mocsta and Sent scum reads come out of nowhere. The Mocsta read is complete bullshit as anyone who's read the OP would fully expect Framers/GF/whatever. Hell, we didn't even fucking know that Vanilla Scum could exist. More importantly, this was at the time when many people were leaning towards on Sent. No anaylsis of him just a generic +1 of a lynch. Bottom line: FT, Moc and Sent are town because Risen is scum and scum never put more than 1 other scum in their list. Why is this phrase necessary? If it's bullshit reasoning Marv should be called on the table for his read and vote/unvote/vote. This phrase is just him trying to not draw attention to himself. "Uhh i'm not calling you scum, I just want to get this clarified without really getting in the discussion." So LeonMeow is scummier for voting for your scum read because of the specific reasons that he gives? Apathy can be a VERY VALID reason for being scum. Yet again, this is just shit flinging on another lynchable player. More bullshit "reasons" for FT to be scum. About an hour apart from each other. FT is scum because he's quiet and absent but Cephiro isnt. He's just trying to push the FT lynch over Ceph without giving himself a backdoor into the Ceph lynch if it becomes favorable. Still pushing FT over Ceph. | ||
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On October 02 2013 01:12 justanothertownie wrote: Not sure actually. I think the difference was reading his post interspersed throughout the thread in snippets; vs reading them as a filter dump.Where did the ZEN-like feeling go? | ||
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Yes, I read it. But you can't change what is written in front of it. If Stutters loses traction, I am next. In regards to the comment about writing cases. Thats completely alignment null and further, it is something I have been asking ppl like Koshi to do since forever. I am still waiting for a response to a perfectly good case from Geript | ||
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On October 02 2013 01:20 Risen wrote: Maybe because, when he made that post, he was your top 2 SCUM READ.EBWOP: And I ignored just about everything Geript posted. He's a horrible mafia player, why did you even bother reading anything he wrote? | ||
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On October 02 2013 00:07 Risen wrote: There is zero defense of me; unless you are referring to me being your #2 scum read, instead of #1. If so, you're still a fucking imbecile.I think the lynch today comes down to Mocsta or Stutters. Mocsta if you believe town can't be stupid and/or his play needs to be punished (I was in camp #2 since I had given up on the game). If you have other reasoning you need to post an actual case on Mocsta. I haven't seen one go beyond parroting my stance on town not fake claiming against a claimed doctor, which still holds water, just not as much as what makes stutters scum. Stutters if you believe someone who has lied about what they would do this game and lurked instead while making anti-town posts (largely filler). The Geript case is awaiting. | ||
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On October 02 2013 01:29 Mocsta wrote: Coagulation (0): - Mr. CC (0): - Mocsta (1): - VE (0): - Risen (0): - Iamperfection (2): - *VE, Rayn, StrongandBig Stutters695 (4): - Pandain, ObviousOne (0): - FirmTofu (4): - Kitamin, Mocsta, ObviousOne, Koshi Deconduo (1): - FirmTofu *I assume VE vote does not count on iamperfection. FirmTofu hit 4 votes first. | ||
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you acknowledged my case on you, and admitted its reasonable for me to consider you scum. is there a reason you haven't dissected the case? | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:27 deconduo wrote: Yeah, very little reason for VE to be alive if he isn't scum, Surprised Kita and Koshi aren't dead either. I went through Deconduo filter to see his last post (to check if he would be getting modkilled). This came 7min after the cycle started; so I suppose he won't be modkilled. My current list Confirmed Town 8: ObviousOne -> No counter claim on RB 15: Coagulation -> No counter claim on vig Probable Town 1: strongandbig 6: kushm4sta 7: Koshi 29: justanothertownie Null 2: raynpelikoneet -> Really disappointed he didn't push FirmTofu to address my case yesterday. 13: Mr. Cheesecake -> Claims cop and then disappears? 19: [UoN]Sentinel -> Activity is too sporadic to get a feel for where he stands 23: Risen -> Has pushed Stutters in a really town-like way; but I felt he did not address the crux of the Geript case. 30: Mocsta -> I have included myself here, as many seem uncertain of my alignment Scummy to some degree 10: FirmTofu -> Why has he continued to ignore my case? 11: Pandain -> Keeps ignoring me, and then comes out with a last minute vote on Deconduo. Need to filter 14: Decondou -> The vote backflip on Cephiro makes no sense 16: Stutters695 -> Clearly doesn't care about the game, and made a token post 17: iamperfection -> Acknowledged my case as good, but then didn't break it down I am sticking with iamp | ||
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I guess thats why you are meant to refresh before posting haha | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:11 Mocsta wrote: erm.. LOL I guess thats why you are meant to refresh before posting haha Ohh, other game OP. Carry on. | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:12 justanothertownie wrote: I'm hurt. OO is confirmed for claiming rb and I'm not. When did you claim RB? I thought it was Zaragon? | ||
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Because like mattchew, you were adamant that I was town, even though pushing you. I just don't get why scum would say that. Its not an ego tell; more so, it pertains to town transparency. My preference for lynch is still FirmTofu, but I doubt I can get traction. So Where do you stand with Stutters695? (Apologies if you have commented, I actually can't remember) | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:13 justanothertownie wrote: wat Was that to me? I thought it went: N1 - OO N2 - No RB claim N3 - Zaragon Where did you get a RB? | ||
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On October 02 2013 09:20 iamperfection wrote: i think stutters is a horrendous player but i said before i think he might actually be town. Fuck me, this is doing my head in. I'm currently reading pandain/deconduo stuff; can you please quote for me where you give your reasoning for stutters being town? And who is your preferred lynch candidate? | ||
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OK, so Zaragon was RB N2. Zaragon was definitely RB'd.. he chucked the shits at me for asking about it. So are you saying you got RB'd N3? --> Cos you haven't actually said yes in any of the back/forth? | ||
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See I dont like this iamp. You are justifying a read on Stutters, by applying the tells of a flipped town to Mr.X (Stutters) I think thats relatively deceitful/fallacious in general. And why is making promises and not following through likely to come from town? Was not Cephiro lynched for that exact reason? Scum and town equally care about image. You need town cred as either alignment to push a lynch. This is *VERY* poor reasoning. You are back on my shit list heavily. | ||
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