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exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 01:04 GMT
#1106
I had thought that it seemed a little overpowered that there were 4 scum to 10 town. But the fact that everybody can talk during Night is really interesting and gives some balanace of power back to the town. I'm going to have to re-think some strategy due to this.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 01:06 GMT
#1110
On July 29 2013 10:02 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2013 10:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 09:57 Vivax wrote:
On July 29 2013 09:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On July 29 2013 09:47 Vivax wrote:
I wouldn't even talk about this shit if you didn't call me scum for what I did.
It's a massively retarded assumption that I would take this risk in my relatively good position, and that without outcome.

I don't think you are in a "relatively good position".


Precisely, I wanted to achieve that all along, that was my master scum plan, that is what you're suggesting.
I wasn't in a bad position, only guy wanting to lynch me was vayne.
Desperate scum play requires desperate situations, that situation wasn't desperate at all for me.

I made it abundantly clear that I thought PS was townie, and only cause I have grown a bigger pair than you, I have attempted to save him from lynch.
If anything, what you and stutters did fits more into the profile for how scum would try to gain cred. Try to start a bandwagon that is doomed to fail anyway, switch back, nothing changes, you look better.

Meanwhile, you were crying that PS was oh so townie, but alas, we can't no lynch. Grow a pair and do it if you think he's 95% townie, dumbo.

Yeah because you fuckers didn't vote for either Koshi or FT until it was too late.
Why are you so angry?


Cause I know I'm not scum, and cause I feel I did the right thing, albeit it ended up not accomplishing anything.
Plus, I would like if people judged me on my overall play and not just that stunt. I do crazy shit as both town and scum, and while this was crazy from the point of view of my own safety, I feel that accomplishing a no lynch would have been the right thing.


What exactly does a no lynch accomplish in this situation? We have a possible 1 mislynch to spare to make it an odd number of player. It might very well be we lose out on a lynch by taking a no lynch if there is a doctor or a vig. If we don't lynch papers, where does that put us at day 2?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 01:15 GMT
#1113
So, I'm pretty sure I'm not going to die in the night. Can I take it easy from the game until Day 2 starts? I'm really just not sure what I should be doing right now in this setup. Seems pointless to post theories and look for scum when I will have access to much more information tomorrow after
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 01:20 GMT
#1117
No, just never played in a setup where the town can talk during nights.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 02:56 GMT
#1131
On July 29 2013 11:49 Koshi wrote:
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On July 29 2013 08:33 hzflank wrote:
On July 29 2013 08:29 Koshi wrote:
Why do I really want to lynch paper now? And why do I have a feeling we are heading towards a no lynch?


On second thought you have a really good reason for voting for Paper. Your plan is still to lynch me as soon as you can. You think that Paper is town so that will help your case against me.

Also, a no lynch will not happen. Only a fool would cause that.

Here is the small mistake hzflank made. Here in this comment hz somewhat admits that he knows that paper is town, and he is being scared that when this flip happens, Koshi will use it to prove he is scum. This comment is full off scared scum.

No fucking townie would be on the paper wagon so long and make this comment. Why would a townie suddenly doubt himself? Or suddenly be so scared to be lynched for being wrong?

hzflank was also lurking during the heat of the lynch. That's another scumtell. Because nothing feels so good as scum to see the bickering of town when they are about to lynch another townie. I know the feeling from nuclear.


It's 5 am and I got to go to work in 2.5 hours. Been a while since I woke up i nthe middle of the night and solved a problem.


really good find
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 14:43 GMT
#1288
On July 29 2013 23:19 Vivax wrote:
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On July 29 2013 23:14 Oatsmaster wrote:
On July 29 2013 23:12 Vivax wrote:
On July 29 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
So bad tunneling townie or scum Vivax? I dunno, Im willing to let him stay alive for a bit and lynch other dudes first.


Did you read it, Oats? Did you understand it? Doesn't seem like.

He's ignoring his own reasons for having PS as scumread, basing evertyhing on that joke post even though he mentioned other reasons as well.

What did he write those other points for, in your opinion?All that shit about lurker discussion PS was apparently wrong about, if he then starts judging PS only for one thing.

I did read it.
And it could be bad tunneling townie.


And you think bad tunneling townies forget their reasons for calling someone scum like that?
How is it tunneling anyway if he throws away his case to weaken his own read of PS?

He could have gone like: "Joke post or not, he's still scum for the other reasons I mentioned". That would have been tunneling townie.
Instead he doesn't care about his OWN REASONS.
How is that even tunneling townie.
Jesus christ, Oats.

How do you explain he's ignoring Vayne for posting trash when saying this:

Show nested quote +
Posting some fluff for the sake of posting and then disappearing is not. I'd rather he didn't post at all, or just make a "i'm going to bed see you guys tomorrow" post instead.

Show nested quote +

But when posts have 0 use and possibly 0 intentions of helping the scum hunt...then it's not really a funny joke anymore.


Vayne made a couple of non trash posts at the time of this post. I didn't really have a problem with Vayne until he started saying that he didn't want to give scum reads.

Also the one quote "posting some fluff for the sake of posting" was directed at koshi.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 14:46 GMT
#1289
And to address your main case against me Virax.

I lessened my scum read on papers when he posted that his entire day of posts was a joke. The higher the chance I think he was actually joking the whole time, then, the less scummy I deem his posts. However, the next time he comes to the thread, he goes back on the fact that his entire day was a joke. He said that he was trying to get a read from me. Is trying to get a read from someone a joke? The rest of his day's posts were poor too. That is what reinforced my read on him as a scum.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 14:54 GMT
#1300
On July 29 2013 23:51 hzflank wrote:
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On July 29 2013 23:46 exarezee wrote:
And to address your main case against me Virax.

I lessened my scum read on papers when he posted that his entire day of posts was a joke. The higher the chance I think he was actually joking the whole time, then, the less scummy I deem his posts. However, the next time he comes to the thread, he goes back on the fact that his entire day was a joke. He said that he was trying to get a read from me. Is trying to get a read from someone a joke? The rest of his day's posts were poor too. That is what reinforced my read on him as a scum.


Just to be clear here, are you saying that this is what made Paper's look less scummy to you?

Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 15:04 Paperscraps wrote:
TLDR; Besides the first question on my first post, I haven't been serious at all.


Personally I thought that was the scummiest thing that Paper had posted up until that point.


It weakens my case against him IF he's telling the truth. So yea I guess it does make him less scummy to me at that particular time.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:10 GMT
#1346
What's the case against me again?

Is it basically, my arguments against paper were poor? Why didn't you make this accusation on Day 1. It is because paper flipped town? 7 other people voted paper just so you know.

Once paper said that he was joking I stopped using his day early Day 1 as my "case" against him. It is only after he states he was actually voting me NOT AS A JOKE but to put pressure on me. Joke vote != putting pressure on someone. Once he makes this statement, I can use his Day 1 again, as I am NOT convinced he was joking in Day 1A. How is this not logical for a townsperson.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:20 GMT
#1347
How is it congruous that someone basically say: "Ignore all my posts from earlier, they were jokes." to then say: "i was doing what I did yesterday to elicit reactions (scumhunt?) from you"
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:33 GMT
#1349
On July 30 2013 03:25 Vivax wrote:
If you spent more time arguing on why somebody is scum it would lend more strength to your cause rather than complaining all the time that I have a scumread on you, cause that's what you have been doing this night phase.

What's your take on Vayne, Rayn, Clarity, Koshi etc etc., what are your current scumreads?


complaining all the time? you asked me to explain this and that. I've made 3 posts to you explaining what I did. This is complaining? WTF.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:40 GMT
#1351
What has changed since the end of Day 1. What new info do we have? We know that paper is town. How does this affect Vayne. If you've got some town or scum lean on him because papers has flipped town, it's made up.

Koshi's find on hzflank is pretty good. I'm trying to look at it from hzflank's point of view as town and see if it's possible. It is possible in a weird sort of logic. Let's pretend hzflank is town and not that confident on paper but still more confident than anyone else. basically better than 4/13 chance of scum. He could be trying to say in case papers is town, koshi's scum vote to town paper could be an attempt to get a mislynch on him day2. So basically it comes down to how confident hzflank was that papers is town at the present time. I will re-read this and form a better opinion soon.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:44 GMT
#1354
Am I the only who finds it strange that nobody has gone through and looked at Paper's reads? He's the only confirmed town besides yourself, and nobody wants to look at his opinions?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:46 GMT
#1356
I'm really lead to believe there's a heavy amount of scum in the people who have been posting a lot of theories today. None of you care what paper's thoughts are?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:51 GMT
#1361
On July 30 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:44 exarezee wrote:
Am I the only who finds it strange that nobody has gone through and looked at Paper's reads? He's the only confirmed town besides yourself, and nobody wants to look at his opinions?

This is stupid. Being town does not mean you are right, especially if you get lynched.


You're right. He's not guaranteed to be right. But you don't think a confirmed town's opinion is worthwhile?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:51 GMT
#1362
On July 30 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
exarezee; Also if you think that's important, why don't you go over his posts and see what's in there?

Vivax, can you please talk to me.


I Have looked. I'm wondering why nobody fucking else has.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:53 GMT
#1364
On July 30 2013 03:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2013 03:51 exarezee wrote:
On July 30 2013 03:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
exarezee; Also if you think that's important, why don't you go over his posts and see what's in there?

Vivax, can you please talk to me.


I Have looked. I'm wondering why nobody fucking else has.

So what did you find out that is important?


That's not the point. You're trying to twist my argument into something else. The point is NOBODY has looked. And this I find troubling.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 18:55 GMT
#1365
And you're wrong. Being lynched town, we know that even if mafia were part of his lynching, they couldn't mastermind a plan behind it. It's more important than ever to look at his posts. If someone dies during the night from a mafia kill, we don't know if they killed a person because they were seer hunting? the guy was right? setting up a mislynch? etc. etc.
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 19:03 GMT
#1376
On July 30 2013 03:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
why are we looking over some one who got lynched again? You look at the filters of people that got nightkilled not lynched.


Huh?
exarezee
Profile Joined July 2013
United States423 Posts
July 29 2013 19:06 GMT
#1379
It is important to look at filters at both lynches and night kills.

Night kills are also a bit tougher to look at. Was he killed because mafia thinks he's seer? Was he killed because mafia wants to kill him to get a mislynch next day? Was he killed by rand? There is a lot more variables going on .

In this situation, we can look at reads from a guaranteed town. Of course his reads aren't necessarily right, but there is the fact that we know he was genuine in his reads and thoughts.
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