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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:23 JarJarDrinks wrote: Anyone want to speculate on what WoS could possibly be talking about here? Not important, this feels like blue hunting. We do not need to press people on they're powers and private info. Furthermore what about WOS's post exonerates you? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 04 2013 09:56 WaveofShadow wrote: The subject of name claiming came up AFTER the pause and after my claim. Therefore he got his role after.Then the subject of name claiming comes up and I realize I am absolutely fucked. Luckily iGrok steps in later on in the day and I receive some role information that is not my own. Then he posted this too Oh on the note of fakeclaims, scum absolutely received fakeclaims, likely around the same time as I did. THIS is why I believe Lazer is town, by the way, and probably JJD too, unless I was an oversight on the part of iGrok. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
I apologize ) : that was not nice. I dont actually know what you are, but the company you seem to keep is somewhat alarming. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:30 gumshoe wrote: Actually it's a big deal. If he was given more then 1 role to fakeclaim then wouldn't he know right now that someone is lying?Not important, this feels like blue hunting. We do not need to press people on they're powers and private info. Furthermore what about WOS's post exonerates you? And how the F could I be blue hunting after a mass roleclaim? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:30 JarJarDrinks wrote: The subject of name claiming came up AFTER the pause and after my claim. Therefore he got his role after. Then he posted this too Yeah as for Lazer/JJD claims I don't know. I wasn't even around at that point and didn't bother to check the timestamps lol. Meh. I posted this once already, it's on page 84. Dont make me post it again. Also I highly doubt the big kerfuffle had to do with anything other than the claims. Mass claim is the big balance problem with this setup, also I grok requested pms from everyone. The only thing worthy of breaking the game and needing a pause would be Dandel forgetting fake claims. Now does this mean that your scum? No, but it means your claim is no longer bullet proof and neither is Lazers. I would apreciate if you stop treating is as such. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:38 JarJarDrinks wrote: Actually it's a big deal. If he was given more then 1 role to fakeclaim then wouldn't he know right now that someone is lying? And how the F could I be blue hunting after a mass roleclaim? I'm saying it's like blue hunting. For better or worse WOS is pretty much our blue right now. Also he knows info on other roles, not whose scum exactly. Furthermore why screw scum even more? | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:38 JarJarDrinks wrote: Actually it's a big deal. If he was given more then 1 role to fakeclaim then wouldn't he know right now that someone is lying? And how the F could I be blue hunting after a mass roleclaim? And I'm not discussing it with you anymore, scum could benefit from such knowledge. | ||
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gumshoe
Canada3602 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:31 gumshoe wrote: I apologize ) : that was not nice. I dont actually know what you are, but the company you seem to keep is somewhat alarming. yea I get that, but I don't care. I want to get this lynch right. one thing that I keep kicking around is that survivor WoS' shortest path to victory just before when he renounced his vigi claim was with scum (I think? lynching a townie today would put us at 5-3-1-->3-3-1 after NKs). I feel like this should have been really attractive to him...enough to not claim his true role and try to get the lynch onto a townie. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
So it turns out I'm not allowed to specify beyond what I already have regarding the fakeclaims. So....yeah. I guess that's pretty convenient fodder for all dem hataz but I don't really care. I'm pretty sure the relevant people know that I know shit. | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
I'm honoured you'd think so highly of me. That goes for gumshoe too I guess. I wouldn't call my play brilliant in the slightest---marv was right it was selfish as fuck. :D On July 04 2013 13:05 s0Lstice wrote: oh cool, so you can answer what I just posed to gumshoe then? Ah I was just looking for that and couldn't remember where I read it lol. After the massclaim and general thread sentiment towards me I don't think there's any way I would have been able to get a townie lynched. It would have been my ass on a platter 100%. Still may be but at least I don't have to tryhard or lie anymore. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
How do you know that scum don't have Hitler, hmmm? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
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s0Lstice
United States1832 Posts
##vote fuba | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On July 04 2013 13:20 JarJarDrinks wrote: Wave, please clear this up. Did you get your fakeclaim during the pause or did you get them after I claimed and the town started talking mass claim? How does this affect you? | ||
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JarJarDrinks
United States1302 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
Good question. I'll answer JJD anyway; essentially upon writing my massive explanation I immediately remembered two people claimed way before everyone else. Since I was missing for much of D1 I thought that fakeclaim timing could maybe explain why you two claimed so early with respect to everyone else but I didn't bother to check timestamps or anything like that cuz lazy and it turns out I was probably wrong. As far as the timing of my fakeclaims I'm kind of hesitant to talk much more about shit iGrok and I talked about cuz against da rulez. Let me make it real easy for you JJD. Vote me if you think I'm scum, vote Fuba if you think he's scum. I don't think anyone will hold it against you either way so you don't need to write a long essay about how I got caught in a slip or some shit because I honestly couldn't care any less. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On July 04 2013 12:12 s0Lstice wrote: uuuugh I have such an aversion to this claim analyzing stuff. fuba...did you start the game with the intention to play pro-town? My town play *is* survivor play, but with half the win conditions. My main motivation is not to be mislynched first, then finding scum. So you could say that this game I intended to play like a townie, but wouldn't mind if scum won. But this game moved faster than I was able to keep up with. Every second of my free time went towards catching up, and I've still never been able to go back and reread anything. Feel like answering the question I asked you earlier? On July 04 2013 12:13 gumshoe wrote: Hes survivor, when you saw survivor was untaken you took it, because the alternative was miller claim, which is terrible. You claiming Survivor was not a god send to him, him leaving survivor open was the godsend to you. You know what, you're not the issue right now. But when WoS flips, I want town to remember that. On July 04 2013 12:24 gumshoe wrote: You mean not contributing? Only responding when they're is a case against you? Not scummy at all. No, I mean not fucking being here. As explained above. Everything that's been said about me is a direct result of lack of time. And what the fuck do you mean you removed the "whine and wifom"? You removed the explanation for why scum WoS would counterclaim me. It's significant because it's my perspective on the situation, and you ignored it. Whats changed your opinion on role claims Fuba? The only recent confirmation has come from WOS, but if hes scum, then why would he tell us that? Are you saying hes telling the truth in some regards? Were you lying about role claims originally? Also why the fuuck would survivor, the hardest role in this game(If you dont understand this your not town), not receive a secret role as well? Did WOS piss Igrok off before this game started? Why are you defending whats clearly a retarded position that you supposedly have to hold. You should be the one complaining seeing as your in the roughest spot, instead your what? Convincing us that third party isn't hard? Dont piss in my ear and tell me it's raining scum. Because he clearly had a fucking safe claim? My god, how can you not see that? I think he *did* have the vigi fakeclaim, but it wasn't turning out as expected, so he jumped on me. Yes, surprisingly scum can tell the truth, especially when the truth is obvious. I'm not town. I can't tell you why there was no safe claim for me (possibly because the only unclaimed role is miller?), and I didn't find the game all that difficult without one until this fakeclaim shit started. And again, as I explained above, I play every game as a survivor that only wins if town wins. Survivor isn't all that much harder for me than town. I just had an extra power that I didn't end up using and would show up as german to cop checks. | ||
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