I Swear This Is Normal Mini Mafia

On June 09 2013 13:03 Sylencia wrote:
Hi Axle, you seem to be the only one here. Want to make me mayor? :D

On June 09 2013 14:12 Sylencia wrote:


Pretty sure you can tell from my track record that I really only roll non-VT when I force myself into a themed game

Also, we won't know what these powers/restrictions are until the election is over so there's no real point trying to work it out. In which case everyone ends up voting themselves as the 'optimal' route?

We have quite a few people in for discussion now, but what is there to discuss at the moment..

On June 09 2013 14:12 Sylencia wrote:


Pretty sure you can tell from my track record that I really only roll non-VT when I force myself into a themed game

Also, we won't know what these powers/restrictions are until the election is over so there's no real point trying to work it out. In which case everyone ends up voting themselves as the 'optimal' route?

We have quite a few people in for discussion now, but what is there to discuss at the moment..

On June 09 2013 15:01 VayneAuthority wrote:


to generate discussion, I want to see who the stragglers vote for

On June 09 2013 18:26 Sylencia wrote:


I'm pretty neutral about it, you're the only one who's really put up their hand for being mayor (I have but semi-in jest, and I'm not sure if Axle's is serious or not). Would you say you're the best fit for mayor even if everyone else wanted to be mayor too?

On June 10 2013 11:32 GravityMan wrote:

You are entirely correct in your assessment of myself in that I have not provided sufficient means to make you or the rest of town trust me through my actions. Do remember, however, that once again the day is but half over and I have only posted a handful of times. I hope to make it fairly obvious as both time and space progress.

To answer one of your queries before I progress to the answers you provided; I prefer not to bases my analyses and reads on the previous actions of other players. It is an unnecessary strain on my capacitors and have minimal space left in my memory banks.

Now you have actually gone some way in determining your capacity to me as a potential mayoral candidate; certainly much more than this ShiaoPi. I still hesitate to remove my vite from myself but know that I am not yet locked in, and should it be made clear to me that someone's abilities are superior to my own then I will gladly vote accordingly. Your townread of this jampidampi was confusing me I must admit, because there was very little I could glean from his filter that seemed to be specifically aligned towards the town. Of course the time-post scenario you have outlined is what stood out to me the most and I didn't understand why you were so quick to acknowledge his defense. Your second point regarding his questioning appears valid, yet again his activity level leaves it difficult to reach a strong conclusion. I would agree with you in that this jampidampi would be my strongest read into the scumplayers for today thus far, and yet this is relatively speaking (as I must), so I cannot give it a great deal of weight yet.

I have much to expect from this DarthPunk so I eagerly await his arrival to the thread.


Now as you have correctly mentioned, I have not had the chance to do a great deal of hunting myself, thus I begin:

VayneAuthority: you mention early on in the game you do not trust this AxleGreaser. May I inquire as to why?


You also mention that you do not want a target on your back, yet the way you currently post you clearly do not mind attracting attention to yourself, not unlike the attraction of two gravitational bodies. This appears contradictory. Can you comment please?

On June 10 2013 23:28 ShiaoPi wrote:
@Oats:
I can understand your desire to not trust hapa straight off the bat, but are you seriously that much convinced that he is scum?
From what I gather from your posts your main issue with him seems to be his case on jampi and his sudden desire to run for mayor, am I correct?

On June 11 2013 10:57 Blazinghand wrote:
I don't think I believe oats as town any more. Something about it just doesn't smell right to me. I KNOW he's liek this a lot as scum... but still. Does anyone want to lynch him? I'm willing to swap.

On June 12 2013 00:38 Sylencia wrote:
Alright, clarification statement here:
Here is what I meant about erratic behaviour:
- BH starts out the game lurker style but then comes out guns blazing against Oats in a flamefest war which I frankly don't understand the point of. Neither of them really got their point to each other.
- Hapa attacks Vayne then goes 'nah all cool' and moves on like nothing happened. Vayne is pretty much confirmed town at this point, but at the time when it happened I had no idea what to make of it.
- Stutter's lurkiness is similar to LXI, hard to make out anything from it - this is probably the most normal thing about this town during D1.
- Vayne goes scum style posting into blue claim, weirdest play to date (I missed the hints, but apparently everyone did)
- Axle is actually making sense for once, which is the weirdest thing unless I haven't played with him long enough for him to be more normal like this?
- I don't think I've played a game with Hapa before, but he's probably the most level headed player in this group from what I've seen.

None of this actually really helps in the end with scumhunting, but it just threw me off guard to see these changes. For tonight, about the potential shot, probably best not to use it if you're not sure Hapa. If things go wrong and we're looking at an SK or something in the mix, town numbers could be at an all time low in just 1 day/night cycle.

On June 12 2013 01:15 Sylencia wrote:


How does it help when you force yourself to claim to survive? Blue roles have no power if they are dead before they get results.

On June 12 2013 16:15 Sylencia wrote:
@GK: Why are you suggesting to waste a dayvig shot on me when the only reason you have is that I've been lurkier than others? You literally say before your 'analysis' on me that you think BH is scum and yet somehow I'm a more decent target for shooting? Ok..

On June 12 2013 22:35 Sylencia wrote:


If Vayne wants to use it as a shot, why aren't we lynching a top suspect first, and shooting during the night? Unless there's some sort of claim that can only be checked by death, I don't see a reason why it should be rushed so. (I'm not reading the power wrong, right?)

My top read at the time you posted was ShiaoPi, as I said I agreed with a lot of the points made by Stutters. I made that clear end of last night. I haven't fully digested ShiaoPi's response yet, but if I'm wrong on that account, my previous statement feels good:



For catching up, only having an analysis of 4 players (2 of which seem like afterthoughts), and a weak scumread based a lot on meta is pretty bad. I've heard from BH enough that you have slow starts, but idk define slow start, how long is it going to take to get the ball rolling, and out of all the players how is it that you've got thoughts on 2 lurky players over someone with a lot more points to consider such as Grav/WoS and Oats?

About GravityMan - I am also missing what is obvious about him that makes him scum according to BH, but the only point i"ll take from it is that he is the only one who disrupted Hapa's mayoral campaign with a sort of smear campaign against him. You can make reasons for why he did it if he's scum (potentially take power, and make hapa a suspect), but since that failed, would scum have chosen Hapa as the target of the NK over Vayne to clearly show that? Food for thought, seeing as that was the only real 'major' event that happened regarding mayoral campaigns.

On June 13 2013 07:59 GravityMan wrote:
Axle, who do YOU think is scum?
We haven't had very many reads from you this game at all, just analysis and questions.

On June 13 2013 20:57 Sylencia wrote:


The fact I can actually rely on something which I believed to have been true from the night before shows the actual lack of contribution that you had brought to the table to this point. If I say you're scummy during N1, and you do nothing to change that view in D2, you're saying it's scum oriented for me to say I still think you're scum? Also yes, turns out I ended up thinking you did an analysis on GK which is yourself (it made perfect sense at the time somehow -_-).

In any case:

- Axle: How has this guy been able to fly under the radar this entire game? As far as I've read there's been very little suspicious cast on him, he's been questioned about his reads in which he's tip toed around the problem:



It alludes to him suspecting GM (pretty much confirmed to be saying he suspects GM next post), but he doesn't push it at all. He said he doesn't want to shut a lurker down, but GM is far from a lurker, so why wouldn't he push a case there?

If there's someone in this game who is a prime example of being neutral on pretty much everything, it's Axle.

BH has been doing a lot of talking without a lot of pushing, but I'm pretty sure that Axle is a better option over BH. After a slow first half of Day 1, I think if BH was scum he'd easily adapt into a less active role in the game. He brings up points I don't think anyone else would be doing otherwise (possible VA fakeclaim etc.) and just by doing that I feel it's enough to justify keeping him around for longer. Without BH this town will be a dead town, with little to no deviation in thoughts.

GK I'm still willing to put my vote on him, idk how slow a start can be, but even his vote on BH didn't have any substance to it.