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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 25 2013 21:25 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You have the perfect name to say that sentence One does what One can  | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2013 19:00 Oatsmaster wrote: Wait wait what? Jampi was interested in actually playing the game, not the cohost elections. What yamato. Clarify please. Why are you going out of your way to defend jampi? How can you tell what jampi is or isn't interested in? He is perfectly capable of defending himself, assuming he returns (or isn't dead -_-) I'm voting yamato. His "scumhunting" makes me think he is trying to dig himself out of a ditch after realizing that he is in trouble and needs to come up with someone. He mentions he hasn't done anything up to this point, then jumps on BH for not doing anything. Double standard doesn't make much sense if he is town and truly looking for someone suspicious. | ||
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Vivax
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On May 25 2013 21:33 kitaman27 wrote: Why are you going out of your way to defend jampi? How can you tell what jampi is or isn't interested in? He is perfectly capable of defending himself, assuming he returns (or isn't dead -_-) I'm voting yamato. His "scumhunting" makes me think he is trying to dig himself out of a ditch after realizing that he is in trouble and needs to come up with someone. He mentions he hasn't done anything up to this point, then jumps on BH for not doing anything. Double standard doesn't make much sense if he is town and truly looking for someone suspicious. Can you recap what yamato did there with BH? I want to see if you truly grasped the situation- | ||
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Vivax
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2013 18:16 yamato77 wrote: Now that there's actually a game, there are a ton of lurky fucks, myself included. On May 25 2013 18:27 yamato77 wrote: I'll fully admit to not really reading the thread too much before now, because the trolling is difficult to sift through. Now that I have the motivation to do stuff, things are a little clearer. Yamato opens his series of posts stating that activity has been poor so far this game. If he is town, it would establish the idea that a town player may not be motivated to post much so far, so activity this early in the game probably wouldn't be a good foundation to build your scum reads upon. On May 25 2013 18:46 yamato77 wrote: BHs filter is really, really bad. At no point does he seem at all interested in people's alignments. On May 25 2013 19:17 yamato77 wrote: My analysis is "you aren't doing shit and don't seem to be looking for mafia" However, that seems to be the exact reasoning that he comes out with his scum read on BH. Knowing that the exact same argument could have been used against him moments earlier, it seems to me that he is looking for someone that he could push, rather than hunting for mafia. On May 25 2013 19:23 yamato77 wrote: Whatever. It's clear to anyone reading that I'm trying to figure out the game On May 25 2013 18:58 yamato77 wrote: No, but I have to prod you toward contributing to the hunt at some point. People are doing nothing and I really hate losing. These posts make me think that yamato cares about looking good to others, rather than having a natural town motivation to scum hunt. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2013 21:38 Vivax wrote: Can you recap what yamato did there with BH? I want to see if you truly grasped the situation- Are you inferring that you have knowledge of what is truly going on with this situation? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
On May 25 2013 21:53 kitaman27 wrote: Yamato opens his series of posts stating that activity has been poor so far this game. If he is town, it would establish the idea that a town player may not be motivated to post much so far, so activity this early in the game probably wouldn't be a good foundation to build your scum reads upon. However, that seems to be the exact reasoning that he comes out with his scum read on BH. Knowing that the exact same argument could have been used against him moments earlier, it seems to me that he is looking for someone that he could push, rather than hunting for mafia. These posts make me think that yamato cares about looking good to others, rather than having a natural town motivation to scum hunt. It's perfectly reasonable for Yamato to push BH IMO. I don't agree with it, because BH isn't being a douchenozzle like he was doing in Carnival, but the hypocrisy has to end somewhere, and he's taking ownership of it. It's actually kind of nice to have someone in the game willing to stand up to BH that isn't purely ego driven. | ||
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Vivax
22426 Posts
On May 25 2013 21:53 kitaman27 wrote: Yamato opens his series of posts stating that activity has been poor so far this game. If he is town, it would establish the idea that a town player may not be motivated to post much so far, so activity this early in the game probably wouldn't be a good foundation to build your scum reads upon. However, that seems to be the exact reasoning that he comes out with his scum read on BH. Knowing that the exact same argument could have been used against him moments earlier, it seems to me that he is looking for someone that he could push, rather than hunting for mafia. These posts make me think that yamato cares about looking good to others, rather than having a natural town motivation to scum hunt. You could say he's trying to look good, you could also say he's trying to get BH to play differently. Where do you draw the line? It's always possible that a townie does something he was himself guilty of earlier. If he hinders his own scumhunting by ignoring scummy things he has done himself it's going to do him no good, it would only be self-serving. Aside from that, I see his first two sentences as an early disclaimer for not having a grasp of the whole game due to the initial chaos, that's something different than he's criticizing about BH, which is an attitude apparently unmotivated to scumhunt. Note that I'm citing yamato here, not myself, I'd rather give an own impression of BH's play once I feel like. | ||
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Vivax
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
If he is trying to get BH to play differently, then he would try to probe BH for reads, asking specific questions about his thoughts or views on players or events. Instead, he attempts to start a wagon on BH, calls him scum quite early in the exchange and engages him in an argument. From my perspective, he already made his mind up on BH, rather than providing an attempt to poke him for information. It's as if he is shocked that BH responds with troll posts. He does that plenty of games town or mafia. With BH, you have to look at the long term pattern of posts, not how he responds to an aggressive accusation without much behind it. When you said you wanted to see if I had truly grasped the situation, what does that mean? Do you have further insight into the motivations of yamato than I do? You can infer what yamato is trying to do, but using the word "truly" sounds as if you know what he is trying to do, which would be impossible unless you knew his alignment. Also, if you have a mafia read on me, what is your read on sentinel? What differentiates us in your view to call me scum. | ||
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Vivax
22426 Posts
Similar applies to Sentinel yes, but since I saw that he was very active during the trolly phase, now I just need to wait and see how active he is when finding scum is the objective. He is obviously invited to expand on how exactly he thinks yamato going BSOD, whatever that means, is scumplay. Even now your reasoning is a mix of how yamato is supposed to handle BH in an ideal situation, uncritical to the provocative responses BH gave back to yamato. We both should know yamato by now and how he plays. When he doesn't play optimally it's not immediately a reason to think he's scum. I would have expected more than that vote post from you instead, if you really thought he was scum, kita. I never exclude I'm wrong with my reads, I'll see how you keep performing during the day for now. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
fck you dandel you fkn whore piece of shit. why do you even talk to me. I dun no what your saying dood. Stupidface. As far as I know, in his scum games, kita doesnt start out pushing people. Not that this makes him town, just saying that it doesnt make him scum. Woohooo defence!. About Jampi. I think the way he went around asking people what they thought was a bit weird and scummy. I will wait for him to return though, CAUSE JUMPING TO CONCLUSION AINT FUN YO. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
BH do you agree that we should dunk Oats? Or do you think Yamato really is mafia for his push on you? It was garbage and I agree that the election phase bullshit didn't really make for a fun time to analyze, but he did at least get started with something perhaps mildly resembling scum hunting even if he "backed out of it" somehow. Hmm. Let me read his posts again. I got a townie vibe from him for his thread policing against Dandel's ad hom or w/e but I think this game is going to be sadly full of that from most of the players by the end. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
BH, are you going to play like a townie who got redchecked by a cop and was definitely gonna be lynched at the end of the day unless he does something really good, or are you going to play like a useless fuck. Currently, the useless fuck persona is activated on you. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
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Vivax
22426 Posts
On May 23 2013 04:42 yamato77 wrote: If there's actually a town this game, it's fucked. On May 23 2013 04:44 yamato77 wrote: I say this as a member of said hypothetical town, of course. | ||
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Vivax
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2013 22:44 Vivax wrote: What I mean with truly grasped is that you only described the situation superficially. I recall yamato saying he isn't even sure that BH is scum, you seemed to put some sort of judgement into his mouth by saying "jumped at him", so I wanted to see if you realized that he isn't his scumread. On May 25 2013 19:20 yamato77 wrote: You really ARE mafia. Wow, that was hilariously easy. On May 25 2013 19:06 yamato77 wrote: Now I think you actually ARE mafia. If you're town, this is about the stupidest possible position to take. On May 25 2013 19:23 yamato77 wrote: Whatever. It's clear to anyone reading that I'm trying to figure out the game while you're intent on spamming and trolling me. Only mafia BH would do this. Town BH would understand he hasn't done fuck all and would do something. You're not making sense. Of course he is his scumread. He may not claim to know with absolute certainty, but that is how the game works. Have you even followed the exchange between the two? On May 25 2013 19:20 yamato77 wrote: I would have expected more than that vote post from you instead, if you really thought he was scum, kita. I've expressed my scum reads on yamato even before my most recent posts. It's not like its a vote and run and its one of the first votes of the cycle, so you can hardly say that I'm not trying to generate discussion. Palmar/Acro did you create all of the roles for your faction? Are there any abusive role interactions that we can take advantage of? Do you know who has received which role? | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On May 25 2013 23:16 Vivax wrote: I think that qualifies as scumslip, no other explanation is possible What this tells me is that you didn't read my filter. I directly mentioned yamato's slip for my main reason of voting him, yet you're calling me scum without looking through my posts. | ||
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