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On a more serious note, what's up guys? | ||
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On May 18 2013 02:44 DarthPunk wrote: Heya. You gonna lurk this game? Please say no. I'll be here more than my usual level for sure. | ||
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On May 18 2013 03:01 s0Lstice wrote: the fact that i've only ever played town is a pretty important piece of information to share for people who don't know me/haven't played with me. getting my share on, don't hate Maybe I'm reading to much into this but I'm wondering why you want people to focus on your meta? Let's say I tell you this is like my 13th game without rolling scum. What does that tell you about my play this game that you'd consider important at all right now? | ||
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On May 18 2013 03:07 DarthPunk wrote: Not the first, nor the last time that phrase will be heard in this forum. Excellent summary of my town play. That fabled scum game is still waiting to happen though. | ||
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On May 18 2013 06:47 goodkarma wrote: I feel that Stutters's play so far has been scummy. First, he completely contradicts himself about his thoughts on meta: So he doesn't feel meta's important here. But: When it comes to excusing his lurky play, it matters. Also, I found this to be scummy: In other words, he's ready to sheep onto a Vayne lynch bandwaggon if it gains momentum. But he doesn't want to draw atttention to himself by putting down a vote. #Vote: Stutters I look forward to Stutters's response. If it is to be believed he's sometimes useful as town, then that's another scumtell as he's been nothing but useless thus far. First part: Meta is useless early on d1 (especially when there is no scum play to contrast it). My point was his intention to tie together the "hey check out my meta and I'm town btw so look for this" and how i felt there were devious intentions behind it. Second part: It was intended for two reasons. A) He had asked for a scum game of mine (which he wouldn't know I don't have and it was a way to correct DPs joke(I'm assuming it was at least). B) the "fabled" scum game is a direct reference to either lxi or the one before where someone posted something along the lines of "is this finally his fabled scum debut" while also making some banter with DP. Third part: first, I'd hardly consider bringing up one of the first few discussion points hours into d1 useless. Second I don't throw around my vote lightly. I expressed an interest in lynching Vayne for being unhelpful but because I'm on my phone voting is reserved for serious shit because it's a hassle. Of course I'm not set in my d1 lynch choice hours into d1. The right now part of that quote was based off of his play to that point. Sorry that took 3 hours to type due to being busy, I'll try to catch up and throw some thoughts, but no promises before like midnight est. | ||
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Goodkarma: His second vote (on Grush) honestly felt like he was reaching to justify switching to the bandwagon but then his post on JJD seems really town and his points on me ers are definitely reasonable for d1 so I feel a bit better about that. Are you always so aggressive JK? s0lstice: I'd still be down to lynch s0l supposing the hardcore lurkers pick up and don't seem super scummy. He has asked 1 question before his "case" on me (how WoS could read DP so well).No a lot of contribution in addition to what caused my initial suspicion of him. Then moving into his case, he restates GK's point on my Vayne post (understandable), but what gets me is his other point. He says I pulled my punches in pressuring him because I said I might be overthinking it yet in his next post about it he pulls his punches, so to speak, when he says it isn't a lot to go off of but it's d1 so it's enough. Feels awfully similar to what he was calling me out on as being scummy. Obviously open to change once I see more out of him but it felt really reaching to me. I'll be here for a bit but those were the two people who really stood out to me. | ||
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On May 18 2013 12:56 s0Lstice wrote: Stutters, how do you feel about us being on the same target? iamp since you are here too....what do you think about what I said about goodkarma? Reread what I said lol | ||
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I'll post when I can. | ||
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Because it's Saturday and the lady wants to do stuff. You'll still get posts out of me. | ||
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Vayne can you explain why you think I'm scum except that s0l asked if I had played scum before. Pretty weak reasoning. I get asked that at least once a game by people who don't know me. | ||
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On May 19 2013 10:56 iamperfection wrote: stutters you said you were back and all you did was ask one lousy question is that all you have to say? Thread was dead and I'm trying to filter dive to get some good reads. Seriously though, you don't see anything wrong with his second highest scumread being an association twenty four hours into a game? | ||
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I felt that BH calling out Spicy's typo was very town, but his lack of a follow-up is what concerns me about his posting. The rest of his filter doesn't feel as bad as GKs. Vf | ||
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On May 20 2013 09:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: because noone was here telling what to do other than me. where were you? I never am active on weekends. Sucks but it happens every game. | ||
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Trolling at the start isn't really indicative (iirc he did this in MtG2 but his hydra partner (iamp) was so clearly town it didn't matter much). Not 100% on that but I'm pretty sure that's how it went down d1. I can check that in the morning before day post. That post against Marv about his trolling felt town at first glance, but when I think of it in retrospect it really is the most obvious thing to say, town or scum. I'm still leaning really slightly town on it simply because he's going up against Marv d1, which if he's scum is probably a poor move because Marv always has a really strong thread presence. He ignores Iamp's questions and only responds to Marv, but according to him he was only on p10. If that's true, null. His post on my meta I actually kinda liked for its honesty. Like he said, if you wanted to make me seem lynchable point out a good town game and compare it to that. My issue here, and its fairly major, is if he's aware of that and that my overall meta is like I'm playing, why was he trying to lynch me? If he wasn't(way more likely) then he had done nothing through this point. Next post: he actually has some stances although they're town reads. Sheeps the case on JJD, which he had already claimed he was a fan of, but his case on GK is what worries me here. Being the subject of GKs post, I actually felt he raised valid points since he didn't get my joke/it wad ambiguous that I was joking to DP while also correcting that I have no scum meta. I wouldn't have described that as a serious misrepresentation of my post, just a misunderstanding (I am still interested in lynching GK but nothing to do with that post). To this point, he's still barely taken a stance and arguably did the same type of misrepresentation he's accusing GK of. Next thing that seemed really odd was his post about Sputnik possibly using a really similar opening to his own in an off-site game. Not conclusive at all, but it makes me wonder why he would bring that up unless he knew something about Sputniks alignment considering he was playing near textbook scum and didn't ever actually push his lynch. Moving forward he asks questions but still avoids taking real stances. Even his vote on GK is off of a "slip" and not his overall scummy play. I need to get this post out quick so basically I think he's a strong scum possibility but there are others who I'd prefer because I know if he is town he can bring much more and there are people I think are more likely. | ||
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On May 20 2013 22:18 iamperfection wrote: i didnt play in mtg..... and who are the "others" you think dear Haha, sorry. I've got a terrible memory with names. Unrelated, but seeing you say dear really made me think you were Marv before I scrolled up and saw your name. I'm going to be typing up another post of that nature soon but without having filtered recently I'm really thinking JJD/GK as my top choices. I need to check BH too, but where I'm skeptical is of this being a scumslip. If he was scum I would expect him to be more calculating. | ||
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On May 21 2013 02:00 marvellosity wrote: Do you think he's been playing "follow the marv"? He had GK as a scumread when I never did, and I had vague suspicions of JJD, but his were significantly more explained than mine ever were (which were general meta activity). How did Dandel make his scumreads in British 2? I would say he's explained his scumreads here quite a bit more than he did there. Read his GK scumread/my post on Dandel. What is he actually justifying it on? I'll have to check British 2, but he hasn't been explaining his scumreads very well at all. | ||
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On May 21 2013 07:54 Blazinghand wrote: So we don't have a claim for that 2nd shot, do we? Means there's a 3p in the game, and I've been counterclaimed, so nobody's going to listen to me until I flip. I'll just do what I can to write a good case then so after I flip there's something for you guys to work off of. Still potential mafia vig, unclaimed town vig(unlikely with the targets chosen) but we'll know for sure with the next night. There are a couple people who haven't popped in yet post day post so we'll see. | ||
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On May 21 2013 09:18 Spicydinosaur wrote: In my last game I was vig but I wasn't allowed to shoot till n2. Is that just for newbie games or is it just up to the host? Completely dependant on setup. We won't know until a vig flips/post game if there is no vig. | ||
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On May 21 2013 09:19 WaveofShadow wrote: I'd be interested to hear this too. And actually solstice your other post reminds me, where the FUCK is Dandel? ##Vote: Dandel Ion I am aware I have other scumreads to push today but Dandel seems a good one as any to begin with; I can't simply go on marv's read of him alone. Dandel if you want to live through the day, fucking talk to me. So what makes you vote DI over BH. Do you not feel BH is nearly confirmed scum after finding out iamp is a mason? | ||
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On May 21 2013 12:00 yamato77 wrote: I have to seriously think about what the Rayn kill means before I do anything today. So, thoughts? | ||
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First and foremost, what are your thoughts on BH given what we know now. Seems we definitely have a town RB(since otherwise they would have double stacked you), a town mason, and the claimed (BH) town vig. Do you think that's a plausible setup, do you think BH is lying through his teeth or do you think BH was framed like I remember someone claiming (too drunk to filter dive and find the quote atm). | ||
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On May 21 2013 16:10 Blazinghand wrote: Yeah I'd say about 18 hours at this point. I spent most of last night thoroughly refuting your jubjubbery but i realize now it's not an optimal use of my time. Didn't you acknowledge in the mason qt though that your tor would be better spent not refuting DPs attack on the "slip" yet you're still using that as your main line of defense. What's going on? On that note, I'm going to pass out, goodnight team. | ||
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On May 21 2013 03:36 yamato77 wrote: If I get shot, there are only a few things I want town to think about tomorrow. 1) Don't just auto-default to lynching BH because of the "scumslip". Whether he is actually mafia or not, this is terrible play. I'm not saying don't lynch him, just don't lynch him and do nothing else. If you do lynch him and he flips red, but not mason, immediately lynch Marv. This should go without saying. 2) Don't sleep on the "towniest" players this game. If one of Marv/DP suddenly becomes less interested in this game later on and we've mislynched consecutively, strongly reconsider your reads. They are more than capable of appearing active and pro-town as mafia. I feel its unlikely that either is mafia, but the possibility exists. 3) Pressure low-activity and low-involvement players like Dandel Ion until they contribute, or flat out lynch them. Sometimes, the best places to find mafia is among the low-hanging fruit. Don't just bandwagon on active players and cannibalize yourselves. Anyone you have a null read on, you need to be pressing for information. Try to make conclusions about their alignment. 4) Consider my reads when you're forming yours for day 2. Notably, I think that Dandel and GoodKarma are people to look at tomorrow. I've outlined Dandel already, so I'll explain my read on GK. While he explained his suspicions well, it's somewhat difficult to discern GK's true alignment. He seems to be sharply following thread sentiment. I can't reason which of his games he looks more like this game. Solstice made what I feel is a valid point in that he does seem to be continually defending his position, which is in line with my overview of his scum meta. 5) Try not to lose this game for me, please. I hate losing. And what happened to your thoughts here now that you didn't die. You haven't really pursued lurkers or done anything since the day post. What's going on? | ||
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On May 22 2013 06:36 marvellosity wrote: You're on your 3rd page of filter and it's only day 2. I like the new you Stutters <3 Gotta start somewhere right? :p Although I really need to stop only posting long ass posts and get some more back and forth going. | ||
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On May 22 2013 06:41 Blazinghand wrote: And, I get it, maybe you think I'm scum, but at the very least if we're dead set on lynching me today we might as well discuss the next lynch, right? Pretend I'm town and talk with me, and if I flip scum if you want you can ignore it all, but I'm going to flip town and you're going to be very glad you did talk with me. Let's talk. I'm curious about your town read on JJD. I'm phone posting so I can't pull the quote since I'm on my phone but someone posted about his meta that seemed pretty damming in addition to his overall scummy stylle. If you have access to a computer can you check out what I'm talking about and give your thoughts. If not I'll pull the quote tomorrow morning and would like your thoughts before the flip. Also can you clarify your last paragraph (the one about JJD where you say "he may be wrong, but his earnest attack doesn't make sense from a town perspective." Who's attack doesn't make sense and why doesn't it from a town perspective if both people you're addressing there are people you have town reads on? | ||
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I wouldn't consider him a prime target for tomorrow but I honestly feel like it's a stretch to call him anything above null. | ||
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I put together a cursory read on DI towards the end on d1/early n1. It might be a little hard to follow considering I didn't quote the posts. I also noticed you've been ignoring him for the most part in your own filter. Can you go over my read/filter dive him and give me your thoughts along with why you've been so silent on a controversial person? | ||
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If BH comes back and continues I'd be interested in putting off his lynch in favor of one of the scummier lurkers. I want Marv's input on that though. | ||
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Hell thoughts on anything would be super swell. | ||
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On May 22 2013 11:44 Stutters695 wrote: Thoughts on my interactions with BH, go. Hell thoughts on anything would be super swell. Ebwop: YAMATO THIS IS AT YOU | ||
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On May 22 2013 11:44 JarJarDrinks wrote: I think the reason everyone is on my case and accussing me of bussing BH is because they don't want to believe that a relative noob was able to ID scum so early in the game. I'd like to point y'all to the last game I played where I got lynched day 1 and called out 2/3 of the scum team in my goodbye post. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=407058¤tpage=14#279 Like what am I really being accused of? The whole asking for credit for BH's flip? - The posts that s0Lstice quoted were all in reference to the same thing: DP calling me a top scumread. Most of those quotes were in the same exchange w/ marv. As for misinterpreting iamps post: Marv, you admitted that he wasn't very clear in his meaning. You really don't believe I could have jumped to that conclusion based on his wording? I even put a disclaimer @ the end of my post that I wasn't sure if that was what he meant. Calling out scum in a newbie game really doesn't mean much, and I guarantee you no one cares that a relative noob might be scum. Your play has pretty much been picking an inconsistency in someone's play and then tunneling them without weighing in on any issue in the game. You've provided excuses to explain your inactivity yet since the week has started your posting hasn't improved and you've still stuck to your talking points. If you want to establish yourself as town put yourself out there, go back and address points made against you instead of lumping it all together. What do you make of my interactions with BH today for starters. | ||
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On May 22 2013 11:48 Spicydinosaur wrote: Not checking your role pm, your popping in and out of the thread and the frequency of your posts is troubling, especially today. Your read on me was garbage, as well as your read on stutters. Your unwillingness to tell us your view on the 3P seems like a stall. Lastly, Rayne was mostly focused on you D1 and now he's dead. All this adds up to you being scummy. ' Can you explain how the Rayne shot makes GK scummier to you? Obviously this is speculation but there were better shots for scum to take if it was a scum vig on Rayne. It's almost 100% certain scum killed iamp as they wouldn't want a confirmed town who is a strong player around another day. If he has kp that suggests a 3p read over scum. | ||
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##unvote I'm running into work now but I'll unvote when I get a chance. | ||
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On May 22 2013 13:30 WaveofShadow wrote: At this point now I'm pretty sure you're scum and trying to piss me off. You are flat-out lying about my contributions in this thread and you say you haven't ignored me yet you didn't respond at all to my shutting down of your earlier post. Lying BH = scum BH. You want to taunt me to place a vote on a wagon? Fine. Makes more sense than getting Lurker Ion lynched today, not that anyone would listen to me anyway. ##Unvote ##Vote: Blazinghand When you respond to me and admit your lies in the above post, then we can talk. Until then, I'm continuing my look into GK. What? What in the hell do you see town in DI, please enlighten me. | ||
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On May 22 2013 13:42 WaveofShadow wrote: What? When did I call DI town? He's been a scumread of mine for ages but he's lurking so fucking hard I can't get anything out of him. Would you prefer I leave my vote on him until deadline? I want to understand why axing a contributing person who will inevitably give himself away if left alive is better than lynching someone who you think is scum and isn't doing shit. | ||
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On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote: Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing? The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do. I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this. Not knowing mechanics=/a definite scum slip in a closed setup. It is probably a scum slip but again I'd prefer taking out someone who isn't contributing at all and seems scummy over someone who is going to be here and provide more to analyze. Quite frankly if Marv shows up in the morning, calls me retarded and tells me to go BH my vote will pop right back over because he knows BH way better, but I'd rather have a potential scum BH in LYLO than a toss up Grush or DI when one of them is almost certainly scum. | ||
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On May 22 2013 14:26 WaveofShadow wrote: I also thought sputnik was scum and wasn't doing shit and look where that got us. Not that I was the person who convinced people to vote for him in the end. There is the possibility I am wrong about scum Dandel, but either way I am not going to be the person to get people to vote for him; I never am. People don't listen to me. Ever. Specifically due to BH's recent posting towards me I believe he is scum more so now than before. If he was really town I would expect him to attempt to actually enter into discourse with me rather than antagonize me and ignore my posts. If he decides to swallow his pride and admits to lying before I have to spell it out for him tomorrow then him and I can have a chat, but not until then. I refuse to shit up the thread angrily trying to prove to scum that he is scum. As for my read on GK I will admit I am fucking lost. It reminds me of trying to read Hopeless1nder in LXI (which I was ultimately wrong about), who did such ridiculously scummy things but then wound up town. Why would you withhold information from town at this point in the game? Why the FUCK would you not read your role PM? The meta cases (including BH's) make sense, what I can make of them anyway, + Show Spoiler + (though specifically BH admitting to using a case like this AS SCUM to show how GK is town just in his own example just makes me want to trust him even less. SO fucking WIFOM-y) This is going to sound like a bit of a cop out but I'm too tired to read your points against BH right now. I'll check them in the morning and give thoughts with plenty of time before the lynch. Here is where I think your comparison falls flat: Sputnik is unreadable to a certain extent with his play style. DI isn't. This is scummy and out of character for him. | ||
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On May 23 2013 00:31 Blazinghand wrote: It's not antagonism, it's a JOKE. The "hue" at the end of it isn't me talking about colour, it's me giggling. The point is, I'm dead anyways, which means I alone here am free to express whatever thoughts come to mind. Scumslip! Get him boys. | ||
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On May 23 2013 06:54 VayneAuthority wrote: also I wish I asked BH the chances of marv or darth being the SK. he was sure they werent mafia but that seems hauntingly appropriate now. Remember DP was RB'd. It depends on the setup but that could potentially invalidate him as SK. | ||
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On May 23 2013 06:56 Spicydinosaur wrote: Don't sheep if you don't believe in the vote. Vayne and I voted GK and so would have BH if bothered. It's ok to go against the majority opinion if you believe in your argument. I made it pretty clear I wanted him to live over DI or GK but I can't get a late switch going without a more established player backing it. | ||
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On May 22 2013 13:45 s0Lstice wrote: Pardon me, but what the fuck are you guys doing? The slip+the reaction should be plenty. If you don't buy the slip, there has been nothing that BH has done in the past while (after dragging ass for over a day) that scum BH couldn't do. I can't believe I have to be phone posting (I hate phone posting ) to say this. This is just a cursory read but to anyone here, look at this. s0l strolls back into the thread when there was some possibility of a switch off of BH to shoot it down solely on the basis of the obviously false scumslip. Before the slip he has no real mentions of BH and he tries to shoot down any discussion on the matter with the slip and a catch-all "well scum could easily do this" without justifying it. It's more of a question of what scenario is more realistic. I could see him reading the discussion and thinking Marv/DP would give him some real town cred for keeping the lynch on course since they hadn't posted bad feelings about the lynch yet. I could also see him believing the scumslip and genuinely thinking it was the right course of action but the lack of any justification outside the lynch makes me uneasy. | ||
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On May 23 2013 10:33 yamato77 wrote: I'm not used to stutters trying so hard. I guess I can add him to my list of obvious town. Watch the next game start on a weekend and I get lynched d1 because it isn't this active lol Coming up s0l, I'm honestly not sold on him as scum but I'm leaning towards scum. My phone is dying so I might not be able to give a strong reread until Friday since tomorrow my other half and i have a full day planned. At the very least expect it Friday morning, but I'd like to get to it tonight. My talks with BH are still my current thoughts on him. | ||
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On May 24 2013 01:29 DarthPunk wrote: And from this day forth that game will never again be known as LXI but will, for ever after be the butthurt game to all who speak of it for generations to come. They already named it after the VE Palmar MrCC triple cop claim lol. | ||
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On May 25 2013 02:41 Stutters695 wrote: Are there any instances of 3p kp being factional or is that a non-factor? Like how mafia occasionally has kp that no one actually carries out so you can't RB to stop it. I don't see how DIs wincon is attainable like this and it bothers me. | ||
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Well the situation is pretty grim. If we lynch DI we need to stop the NK or get endgamed. If we lynch scum we get in the awkward position of hoping they never hit the JK if we go with the JK stopping DI until endgame: 5-4-1 (5-3-1), 4-3-1 (4-2-1), 3-2-1(3-1-1), 2-1-1(2-0-1) Unless we get to 2-1-1 with the JK alive we lose. Those aren't good odds. | ||
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On May 25 2013 06:46 marvellosity wrote: just does (maybe) he's trying to be all useful with what we should do, but actually he's not being useful, he's posting shit for the sake of posting shit. yukyukyuk If you can explain why I would deviate from a lurky meta in a game full of lurkers and put myself out there as a first time scum instead of riding my meta to another game without getting lynched, explain away. Otherwise you might want a plan for what to do after DI flips. | ||
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On May 25 2013 07:34 marvellosity wrote: This isn't a meta or an activity argument, so please don't try to make it one. I don't care about the meta part, I just think it's funny you're trying to suggest I'm possibly scum off of one post, you're better than that. We'll talk more about it if we make it through the night but your play is really worrying me. You're playing like MtG without actually ever kicking it into gear when it is evident town needs you (obviously not right now, I'm talking d2 especially). | ||
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On May 25 2013 12:15 DarthPunk wrote: So assume for a moment that we do not lynch dandel. Who do we kill and why? I want this from everyone. Being unsure is an ok answer but that means you need to figure it out. GK tomorrow, that's a sure lynch. The only concern was if he was scum or 3p and he's obviously not 3p now. There is no doubt in my mind he was anti-town (especially after talking with BH) and was my second choice behind DI. After him I'm more unsure but I'd say between s0l and JJD. I need to filter dive that one, this is just my current thoughts. If we make it to LYLO(2-1) and Marv is alive I'm giving him some strong consideration. This isn't the Marv I expected, especially his lack of interactions with BH D2. He was uncharacteristically quiet and its just slightly off. I can't put my finger on it exactly, but it's weird and worth checking out. | ||
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On May 25 2013 13:39 WaveofShadow wrote: It's interesting you say that; is it marv's thing to have to carry the town? It's pretty evident town needs somebody to take the lead atm but I certainly don't trust my reads enough to do it (especially since scum always leave me alive towards LYLO and I lose the game then). If marv doesn't kick it into gear as you say, do you suspect him of being scum? I do know that a lot of my conversations with him haven't exactly been fruitful but I have no way of knowing if that's by design or the fact that we just don't have answers right now. It's not that he's not carrying the game that worries me per se. It's more his ambivalence. He's not given a shit before in games MtG mini where he openly said he was playing for fun and not really trying yet when it came down to it he still cared. Compare it to this game where he goes missing for extended periods without anything to show for it and his lack of caring, flip flopping on BH too late to do anything when the info was already out there for the most part and its really concerning. He could just be demoralized (this game has been really ass for town so this is an absolute LYLO deal, but it wouldn't surprise me. If i don't make it to endgame someone should really look into it. | ||
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On May 25 2013 22:25 DarthPunk wrote: Well is it untrue? you went along with the BH lynch even though it was being pushed HARD by your number one scum read. now you are going along with the DI lynch even though your number one scum read is pushing for a DI lynch. And despite talking about me being your number one scum read for a while you actually haven't pushed for my lynch at all. You scum bro. maybe read about why everyone else thinks i'm town if you genuinely want to know. Also BH said I was town when i was pushing hard for his mislynch so I don't know why the fuck YOU would NOT think I am town I could definitely see a JJD scum but both sides want DI dead. If scum don't they can't really push it without outing themselves so I don't really think him agreeing with DI is a point one way or the other. | ||
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I'm not sure what you're saying about hard lines on stances, you'd have to elaborate, and read the "get him boys" in context, Marv said spicy was antagonizing BH so I thought I'd jump in when nothing else was going on for laughs. | ||
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On May 26 2013 03:07 goodkarma wrote: Perhaps I should rephrase this: Did you actually conjure up so many excuses? You had some in prior games for sure, but they're rather prevalent this game. I mean I've seen a rather large number of remarks like this one this game, and it stood out to me as a curious tendancy. It does look like there's some of this in prior games, but they're like everywhere in this one.: I really don't care if you're off drinking somewhere. What's relevant is that when you're here you are actively scumhunting, and all I've really seen is you have an interest in lynching me... Would you mind laying out what you envision to be the scumteam? I mean clearly it's more than one guy. There's at least three scum, yet I seem to be the only guy you're concerned about... And somehow I'm "sure scum," in which case one would think you'd be devoting your scumhunting energies finding the remaining scum. Top one: wether or not I'm scum, my answer would be the same. I can give you pics though :p. As much fun as it would be to play mafia all the time real life comes first. My current scum team would be you,JJD and either Marv or Grush. I'm just not comfortable with his play right now and Grush breaking star senses seems bad. That's pending a re-read on the others but I don't see DP as scum, Vayne is very doubtful and the others I need to really re-read to piece this together, but those are my main targets. I'm starting to favor a JJD lynch over you, but I'll have all of that ready before the nk in case I die. | ||
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On May 26 2013 03:22 DarthPunk wrote: GK is town marv. Scum team is S0lstice/JJD/stutters + 1 maybe. Agree with 1, maybe s0l. You're way off on me and why do you suspect that? | ||
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On May 30 2013 06:28 JarJarDrinks wrote: Spicy didn't claim his roleblock. And I thought this could be a Jail Keeper crumb Goddamnit, I was debating not saying anything, but since I make a bunch of typos anyway I figured it would have been obvious had I not said anything. It was a legit typo though | ||
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I considered using my VT claim Prom but my issue with that was concerns about the closed setup and assuming scum also had safe VT claims. I couldn't work out how to work it in without implicating myself as having additional info. Since town doesn't know about safe claims it probably would have come off as blue fishing. I also know very little about les mis, it's like the one musical I actually never got into so I wouldn't have been able to figure out much anyway :p Thanks for hosting Prom&Co, you guys were really quick on vote counts and responding to PMs, very much appreciated. | ||
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Definitely some fault on Yamato and myself for not sticking up for you after you stepped up your game, part of a misguided worry I had that after your flip I'd be lynched because of it. It made more sense in my head at the time. | ||
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