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On April 15 2013 03:58 VIVAX420 wrote:
yeah I will pretty much lynch anyone today LOL (rayn, fmb, balrog)
d1 what can you do. Rayn is an actual scumread but he's not getting lynched so FMB and Balrog are lurkers so they can be lynched too. Balrog is more lurkery of the two, fmb is more scummy of the two.
Well that's not a satisfying response and it bears an eerie resemblance to your Day 1 antics as scum in Witchcraft Mini (you generally not caring about who died).
And I changed my mind about WoC. Yesterday he seemed scummy how he couldn't do anything but shit it up with MA, but after actually reading through his filter he didn't seem as bad.
kush
Why did he not seem as bad? What specifically changed?
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I'm kinda warming up to a Reyn lynch. Based on the most recent votecount, it seems like scum's votes are fairly diversified and on separate wagons.
Reyn joined a late wagon that had virtually no chance of succeeding, and while I'm trying not to OMGUS, his case really seems like a scum-case.
Firstly, before he posted that case, he expressed strong interest in lynching three other people:
I don't think FT is scummy anymore. I read Hydra 1 and this game VE posts and VE was quite different in that game from what i can tell. Oats is saying the same thing.
I can't be around @ the deadline, i consider NSB / FMB / VIVAX420 the scummiest atm. Vivax only because i can't understand much they are saying. Oats gotta decide who we gonna lynch.
Then after which, the crux of his cherry picks one of jampi's quotes and overplays it a ton:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406683¤tpage=42#840
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On April 15 2013 04:10 FiveTouch wrote:There's no real reason that he should gun (geddit) for you in that situation when he could easily make some case or vote on any of the guys he mentioned, don't you think? ~marv
You seem to think it's an "unnecessary" play for scum, but I'm more reading it as he doesn't care who dies.
I'm more interested in the attitude thing though - am I just remembering it wrong, or is what I pointed out about his attitude (brash as scum in newbie, more wishy-washy as town in RTP) true?
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On April 15 2013 04:17 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 04:14 ShotgunBiceps wrote:On April 15 2013 04:10 FiveTouch wrote:There's no real reason that he should gun (geddit) for you in that situation when he could easily make some case or vote on any of the guys he mentioned, don't you think? ~marv You seem to think it's an "unnecessary" play for scum, but I'm more reading it as he doesn't care who dies. I'm more interested in the attitude thing though - am I just remembering it wrong, or is what I pointed out about his attitude (brash as scum in newbie, more wishy-washy as town in RTP) true? I think his case has merit and if I didn't get feelings of "hapa's posting doesn't feel bad" then I'd agree with it myself. The points are reasonable. And again, I don't know why he'd make a case on you rather than an 'easy' target that he'd already mentioned. What's the point?
The objective would be disassociating yourself from all the main wagons. The most recent vote-count seems like one of those counts where a townie is getting mislynched by all townies, and scum are entirely spread on alternative wagons.
His present vote seems a lot like that. Soft-push all the main wagons in the thread, then plop your vote down somewhere useless.
So yeah I'm starting to have misgivings about FMB. But dammit Prome be all lurky.
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As for the attitude thing, eh you're right. I thought I had remembered him as more brash in his newbie game, but that was a selection from Day 3 of his play.
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Jeez where did everyone go. Need comments on Reyn.
As for the SnB thing, I've noticed that too, but it's a tad against the rules to discuss out-of-game activity in this thread.
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Well the votecount dictates that we should be lynching one of these people:
On April 15 2013 04:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
Votecount:
WaveofCheesecake (1): MockArmor
Raynmaster (1): Vivax420
Vivax420 (1): FondleMyButtocks
ShotgunBiceps (1): Raynmaster
FondleMyButtocks (6): SamuelLJackson, ShotgunBiceps, John Matrix, FiveTouch, InsertSmurfHere, WaveofCheesecake
Modkill Zone (1): NeutralSrvivngBalrog
Please message me if I made a mistake. 6 Votes needed for a lynch. FondleMyButtocks currently set for lynch.
~3 1/2 hours until deadline. Or 2 1/2... I am investigating this matter currently! Probably 2 1/2, but awaiting confirmation.
Let's roll with "2 1/2" in the meantime, yolo.
Generally in this situation, you see scum dissasociating themselves on other wagons. FMB is included in that group of course, but he's the one getting lynched right now.
NSB is a wild-card for me.
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On April 15 2013 04:54 FiveTouch wrote:
Hapa, there's almost always at least one scum on the main wagon, regardless of the main wagon's alignment.
~marv
This is true, however that one's usually the hardest to catch. The stragglers are generally a bit more obvious.
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On April 15 2013 04:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I'd be inclined to lynch WoC, and I think geript agrees.
His "consolidation" post on Prom is hilariously weak.
I'd expect scum to add more window-dressing to a consolidation post than "eh sorry not active I'll just sheep thread sentiment"
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On April 15 2013 05:00 InsertSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 04:57 ShotgunBiceps wrote:On April 15 2013 04:56 InsertSmurfHere wrote:
I'd be inclined to lynch WoC, and I think geript agrees.
His "consolidation" post on Prom is hilariously weak. I'd expect scum to add more window-dressing to a consolidation post than "eh sorry not active I'll just sheep thread sentiment" I'd expect town to give more of a fuck about who they were lynching.
That post seems written by a busy townie than a lazy scum.
Though by your heuristic (not giving a fuck about who dies), I'd prefer to lynch Vivax/Kush or Rayn. Both of them are exhibiting the same behavior.
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This would be so much easier if FMB decided to come in here and post. Geeeez.
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Your WoC suspicions are more that he's playing bad rather than scummy. I'm not pleased with his play either, but I think it's townie. Again, his vote post on FMB is very genuine.
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The game he's playing now is much more similar to CC's town games (i.e. British Mini II) than his scum-games (Nomination, Noir).
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On April 15 2013 05:19 VIVAX420 wrote:
samjackson is voting for FMB even tho he admitted it's a mislynch wtf
Stop taking random comments out of context. I have it in my mind to lynch you on the spot, because you don't give a shit about who's going to get lynched today.
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On April 15 2013 05:19 InsertSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 05:17 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Your WoC suspicions are more that he's playing bad rather than scummy. I'm not pleased with his play either, but I think it's townie. Again, his vote post on FMB is very genuine. No. I clearly showed how he's acting differently and posting differently from his normal town self. On top of that, he's not following any normal town thought processes (think scum -> pressure -> vote). Instead it's (think scum -> mindlessly argue -> flail).
That's kinda how town-CC plays =/
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On April 15 2013 05:25 VIVAX420 wrote:
i give a shit it's just that there are a bunch of people who could easily be scum. Except because of the votes it is now very unlikely that one of those people is FMB. Yet people are still voting for him...
You do?
On April 15 2013 02:35 VIVAX420 wrote:
LOL rayne voting hapa for doing what he does in the beginning of every single game?? ok
shotgun Terrible and unrealistic lynch.
I want to lynch Raynemaster or WoC
On April 15 2013 03:14 VIVAX420 wrote:
I'd lynch Neutralsurvivingbalrog. Mostly a policy lynch but I'd do it.
kush
On April 15 2013 03:31 VIVAX420 wrote:
FMB lynch gets the kush seal of approval. I will vote it if rayn isn't happening.
kush
On April 15 2013 05:19 VIVAX420 wrote:
samjackson is voting for FMB even tho he admitted it's a mislynch wtf
You pretty much want to lynch everrrrrryone.
Except for WoC, who you said "looked townie on yoru recent readthrough", but never explained why that was the case.
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Eh. That feels like such a cop-out =/
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I feel like I'd lynch NSB only if I had no other good alternatives. I'd rather search for one than plop my vote down on him.
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On April 15 2013 05:31 InsertSmurfHere wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2013 05:24 ShotgunBiceps wrote:On April 15 2013 05:19 InsertSmurfHere wrote:On April 15 2013 05:17 ShotgunBiceps wrote:
Your WoC suspicions are more that he's playing bad rather than scummy. I'm not pleased with his play either, but I think it's townie. Again, his vote post on FMB is very genuine. No. I clearly showed how he's acting differently and posting differently from his normal town self. On top of that, he's not following any normal town thought processes (think scum -> pressure -> vote). Instead it's (think scum -> mindlessly argue -> flail). That's kinda how town-CC plays =/ My point is that much of their filter IMO isn't CC but WoS. Not all of it granted, but WoS is acting differently. Even how he responds to pressure has been different. In the Game he became far, FAR more involved after cases were levied against him. In Hydra, once he was on the chopping block he started trying to actively push someone else because he was both blue and town. This game, I don't get that. I don't see him actually trying to get MA lynched at all. Even if you say that's because he's busy, then look at his meta case... would you ever think that's effective at pushing agenda? Honestly? That's not a weak case from a weak player; that's just a bad case. It has 1 good point in the middle of it which gets the least time and he spends most of that time deciding whether or not to even post his thoughts. NOT TOWNY. WoS is SCUM
Hydra 1 was a fairly different situation no? Like he was the leading lynch candidate, and not a fringe one.
Anyway I'll read his filter again. I still think his FMB vote was very genuine.
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