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I agree to all the rules and activity requirements in the OP. | ||
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Wait til Day imo imo. Thx though Prom. | ||
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Lazer can I clarify a couple of things about your policy post? 1) 24 hours from when? Someone giving intent to hammer? I'm not sure what this limit is designed to accomplish, given your second point. 2) This is basically stating the obvious. Are you going to find anyone who hammers instantly scummy? | ||
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I don't support your policy. | ||
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On April 02 2013 07:36 Lazermonkey wrote: My problem is this: if we don't establish a HARD policy then we might end up in a really hairy situation where someone hammers a guy in a completely retarded way, and everyone will start defending him using the argument "but scum wouldn't be THAT dumb and suspicious". If everyone simply agrees with the policy then we will avoid stuff like that. I still don't support your policy. For my part I don't intend to defend anyone who hammers using that logic. Hammering without explanation is a scummy move no matter who does it, especially considering the silencing effect it has on the town - but I will not agree with making it policy to lynch someone for hammering someone else. That just smacks of trying to make town afraid to be decisive, and I'll have no part of it. | ||
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On April 02 2013 09:10 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Not yet but I'm sure it will happen. Just taking precautions. I hate you so much. Like it could be argued that your style of play (popping in once a cycle to provide reads and fucking off the rest of the time) is IMPOSSIBLE without people like me actively engaging others to PUT the information you use IN the thread in the first place. But whatever if you want to policy lynch me for being me, go right ahead. I'm confident that others in town will disagree with your limited view of my play. | ||
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On April 02 2013 09:19 risk.nuke wrote: Think RoL just set of the old kenpachi trap. Elaborate. There are so many "rules" and "traps" that I can't keep them all straight. | ||
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On April 02 2013 09:25 risk.nuke wrote: The legend goes...+ Show Spoiler + Kenpachi claims vanilla townie and the first person to contest it is mafia. Ah I see. So does this make RoL scum to you? | ||
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On April 02 2013 09:45 risk.nuke wrote: VE, RoL. If you're going to tunnel-bitch-argue in the thread atleast argue about something remotely relevant. If you're going to criticize me for anything, you should answer questions posed of you first. Do you think RoL is scum for "contesting" my "claim" a la Kenpachi Rule? | ||
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1) Scum trying to incriminate RoL innocuously by "joking" about Kenpachi Rule. 2) Town trying to trap someone into agreeing with his assessment and voting RoL. I ruled out 2 by asking him if he thought RoL was scum because of it, and he doesn't, which leaves 1). ##Vote: risk.nuke Conversely I'm very null on RoL. Abhorring my play-style is very NOT alignment indicative for that guy. | ||
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On April 02 2013 10:46 risk.nuke wrote: Will you please god damn stop tunneling? The thread have talked about it, I assume you read the thread? How can I be tunneling in a game that's not even 6hrs old? Nothing else is even happening for me to look at otherwise risk. If you think I should be looking at other scummy shit, feel free to point me in the right direction, but your scummy shit is the only scummy shit I've seen in the thread. | ||
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On April 02 2013 10:59 risk.nuke wrote: If I was scum I could just have claimed I believe strongly in the Kenpachi rule and talked about it's high accuracy and incriminated RoL for it. I would legitly look as if I were scumhunting and doing stuff at the same time as I would be pushing my mafia agenda. Instead I told the truth of what I believed in which made me look worse. Why did I do that, because I am mafia and retarded or because I am town and interested in finding scum, not just looking like I'm trying to find scum. This is my point entirely. You told "the truth". Why? If your intention was really to "fish for reactions" then why did you tell me the truth at all? It's as if you KNOW I'm town and didn't want to look scummy for saying something as asinine as "RoL is scum because he contested VE's town-claim". The fact that it "looks worse" now is completely irrelevant because at the time, you had no way of knowing whether telling the truth would look good or bad. What you did know, however, is that telling the truth would completely invalidate your "totally legit scumhunting tactics". So why do it? | ||
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On April 02 2013 11:07 risk.nuke wrote: Viscera. Tunneling isn't about time, it's about not having an open mind. You lashed out at me instantly and agressively for the smallest thing so clearly you're looking at me as if I am scum and are trying to find things things that are scummy about me to confirm that belief. Aka tunneling. You want REAL scummy shit. Everyone that's not posting are scummier then those who are posting. For 2, I personally think Hopeless1der look very uninterested in finding scum. But this isn't the case at all. I voted for you. In my vote post I even outline where I tried to consider a town motivation. I'm TRYING to keep an open mind, but you keep slamming it shut with appeals and bullshit. Like what do you mean "aggressively"? I've kept a cool head about this whole thing. You're the one freaking out bro, not me. | ||
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On April 02 2013 10:37 risk.nuke wrote: For a group of people who just talked about the dangers of voting in a instant hammer game you guys are being pretty fucking reckless with your voting. I'm not sure if i have 3 or 4 votes on me now but all it takes in one or two careless players to come in and sheep and I loose my head. This looks to me like the bolded statement and the italicized statement are referring to the same people...people voting for risk.nuke. As I'm voting for risk.nuke, I was curious as to how the bolded statement applied to me. That's not lashing out at all, it's questioning the motivation of your posting. It's not aggressive at all, it's inquisitive. | ||
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RoL I'm going to come across as pesky but I've got to ask: why are you harping on my play last game and providing posts like your last one? It doesn't seem to be in the spirit of keeping the thread tidy, and it doesn't provide any insight into what you think of their alignment. Your vote on risk is uninspired too. You essentially sheeped the reasoning I gave and added nothing. Do you buy his explanation that he was "reaction fishing" and I ruined it? | ||
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On April 02 2013 13:18 AxleGreaser wrote: Axle on Risk. I think Risk is under quite a bit of pressure. I think Risk has rather plausibly (given his time zone) claimed the need to go to sleep. I am left wondering what the Risk voters think they should do right now... and little intrigued none of them seem to be doing that. Apart from that, for now Risk is big boy, risk can look after himself. As I don't know if Risk is town or scum for sure, now is the time for me to watch and decide if Risk is scummy, or are the people pushing him scummy and trying to look useful by parking their votes on him. Nowhere in any of this are your thoughts on anything risk.nuke has posted, his interactions with anyone in the thread - there's literally no original thought in there aside from "I believe risk's claim that he went to sleep". Instead of getting all up in RoL's grill for voting for risk, why don't you provide your thoughts on risk's play. Twice in this snip alone you sprinkle doubt on the pushers of the risk wagon. Do you think he's town getting the shaft? Are you suspicious of people pushing risk.nuke as your post seems to allude to? | ||
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On April 03 2013 00:42 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Jesus you guys are active while I'm asleep. ##Unvote I don't think we should lynch Risk today. How I got +2 to my pressure vote is beyond me. -znipplez- Found it. Cheese you unvoted and said "Gee golly guys I never really wanted to lynch risk and I'm confused by the extra votes that aren't mine" when reading could have told you everything you needed to know about the extra votes. You don't comment on any of the content against risk, simply discredit the wagon by saying the other votes were merely "+2" to your vote...which is very obviously not the case. And so I ask. Why do you not want to lynch risk today specifically? | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:23 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: But I thought I was your designated badass? No you're just a sexy beast. | ||
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risk.nuke's read on Hopeless is actually not bad. Not bad enough for me to ##Unvote: risk.nuke What I find interesting about Hopeless is how he's cheerleading the risk.nuke lynch while never himself being on the risk.nuke wagon. He excuses it with "Well I just didn't want the day to end early" or whatever, but risk.nuke now only has 2 votes on him out of 5 needed to lynch. The interesting thing about Hopeless is that while he's cheerleading the risk.nuke lynch, he's voting for Ghor. Why? On April 03 2013 00:34 Hopeless1der wrote: so...you want to polarize the lynch between your initial scumread and somone who you say "won't comment" on your initial scumread. Why not just push to get risk lynched? | ||
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On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: -snipples- Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch. But see this post tells a different tale. This post tells of a D1 in which Hopeless1der is leading a Ghor lynch with reasoning. | ||
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*brofist risk.nuke* We cool dawg. For now. | ||
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God can you imagine how fucked you guys would be? LYLO D2 LMAO | ||
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5v3 - NK 4v3 <-LYLO In order to avoid LYLO on DAY TWO we'd have to lynch scum on D1. That makes game incredibly unbalanced. We're looking for 2 people not 3. | ||
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Why does his read change have to be scum motivated? | ||
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Furthermore he lied about it in the thread. Observe. On April 03 2013 01:32 Hopeless1der wrote: I think risk is scummy but didn't want the day to end that soon. Also wanted to see if anyone agreed with my assessment of the supposed scumslip. Ghor is annoying as all hell and his intentions behind voting sylencia do not match with his scum read on risk.nuke. He wants sylencia to commit to some type of a read on risk and when he refuses to do so, calls him scum for it. No where does he validate why this is scummy. Combine that with what appears to be a trolling smurf hellbent on behaving like a caveman, and I think he's a good choice for lynch. On April 03 2013 01:48 Hopeless1der wrote: My vote on ghor was to get him to answer my bloody question about his stance on risk instead of directing me to his filter. ##Unvote: Ghor ##Vote: risk.nuke When confronted about his vote on Ghor he says it was to get him to answer his question, but as you can see from the first post, he clearly says that he feels like Ghor should be considered for lynch today. Inconsistent. Scummy. | ||
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I'm rereading right now. I totally missed that Ghor had made a case on Sylencia. I'm gonna go read that part of the day in context and see what I see. | ||
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Further, I'd like your thoughts on Lazermonkey. | ||
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![]() I looked at Sylencia yesterday and decided I don't wanna lynch. Lazer even looked super scummy to me for his case. But I had missed your case and frankly now I'm not so sure where I stand on Sylencia. Here's my problem with Sylencia. Sylencia seems to be lynchbait - has been mislynched repeatedly for (I think) similar reasons you cite. Why guaranteed red flip to you? | ||
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##Unvote It would mean nothing other than he's done playing this game. | ||
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On April 04 2013 02:09 Ghor wrote: He plays very defensively. Talks a lot about what he does and why he does it, even when talking about his scumreads. The "look, I am doing this and that cause of this and that" type of thing. I think townies are less self-centered, sylencia seems to be very concerned about his own image. His disinterest in lashing out at scumreads is another point that confirms that. Wants to lynch hopeless without interacting with him, ever, and says in advance that I still look bad if hopeless flips town, which is a strange thing to say. He already reevaluates the read on me before a flip that would give information, that sounds to me like he wants to push me no matter what. I don't know if he's lynch bait, but I do not think that should be a barrier to lynch people who look scummy. This is fair, I just don't see the scummy as clearly as you do. Concerned about his image...do you have examples or are you referring to how he responds to people who mention him negatively? | ||
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And because he like refuses to vote, I'm not even sure who his primary candidate is (though I can assume it's Ghor.) | ||
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I'm coming around to the idea of a Sylencia lynch tbh. You wanna try and nudge me over the edge? | ||
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On April 04 2013 05:25 Lazermonkey wrote: Other than repeating what have already been said: I'd say Hopeless recent half-suicidal moves are something scum aren't very keen on doing normally. I don't understand this, why would scum do that normally? | ||
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Well he certainly didn't mean it, so that's completely null. He put the vote on and immediately took it off, so that's something town or scum could do. | ||
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On April 04 2013 05:38 risk.nuke wrote: Ghor, I'm glad you dropped the roleplay, even if it's just temporary it means you care enough for the lynch to stop rping and it says something about you. If hope is town I think it's very unlikely you're mafia and stopped rp'ing to prevent it. However if hope flips scum I'm going to have a real close look at you. I don't want you to say I'm town because I'm not playing like my scum meta. I generally don't play like this as town either. I would however like you to get your head out of your arse and see that I am scumhunting and contributing and understand that that is town behavior and therefor I am a bad lynch for today. Shut up. What do you think of Sylencia vs Hopeless lynch? | ||
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On April 04 2013 06:03 risk.nuke wrote: I said I didn't want to lynch him, it's about the same time Ghor pulled his 180 on me. I want to lynch Hope, I would rather lynch RoL before I lynch Syl but I will vote Syl to ensure a lynch. That's what I think about lynching Syl. ARE YOU HAPPY? | ||
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He has also stated interest in hammering Hopeless, and it seemed to come out of left field. What do you think of that? | ||
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On April 04 2013 06:38 Lazermonkey wrote: Where is RoL -.-... While he's gone Lazer, how about you tell me what you think of his case on Cheese? He seemed pretty sure that Cheese should be the lynch, and if he's gone for the lynch he'll undoubtedly be furious that we didn't jump onboard. If you're so interested in what RoL has to say, why not comment on what he's said? | ||
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On April 04 2013 06:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I'm at work hiding my phone under the table... this is exciting! Is there no convincing you guys of a hopeless lynch instead? I'm on fence Cheese, do what you gotta do to convince me sir. I'm giving everyone a chance to pipe up. I'm even listening to arguments for lynching you! ^^ | ||
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While I'm gone consider the following points:
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##Vote: Sylencia | ||
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Silence during Twilight too? | ||
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On April 05 2013 05:51 risk.nuke wrote: Shot doesn't seem to far stretched to me. You and me could have gotten medic protection. Ghor looks bad after spearheading a townielynch or could be mafia. Axle looked very townie early on day 1. That you presume either you or I would be prioritized over RoL is highly suspicious to me. Just sayin. | ||
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Read all the posts that he quotes Lazer. Tell me what you see. | ||
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Cheese what happened to your pulsating hardon for lynching Hopeless? | ||
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I don't care how aroused you are by lynching Hopeless because you're not voting for Hopeless and you've barely mentioned Hopeless this day. Ghor said something in his defense I'd like you to address. All of the stuff in your case was readily available to you yesterday. When you were pushing for Hopeless and you were clearly paying at least tertiary attention to Ghor, why didn't you raise any of the points in your case today against him yesterday when he was pushing for the Sylencia lynch? I for one was here, looking for input on where I should vote. You did NOTHING to try and convince me to vote for Hopeless, while Ghor took the time to prepare a whole case against Sylencia. | ||
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On April 05 2013 05:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: @ Lazer How the fudge can you have a town read on Ghor? He just tried to condemn 3 people for sheeping his own Syl case. On April 05 2013 07:56 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: I am still aroused by lynching the Hopeless one, but I'm getting scum vibes all over from Ghor. I figured I'd get flak for it -- a lot of ppl have town reads on him. Don't care, I think he's scum. Good to know -- dontcha think? These two statements contradict each other. In the first you express incredulity at the idea that Lazer has a town read on Ghor, and in the second you say you're aware that "a lot of ppl have town reads on him". | ||
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On April 05 2013 08:29 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Yeah the guy I called out D1, made a huge post on, and we nearly got lynched together is my teammate. Yeah because you weren't confirmed town for 2 days as scum in Nomination for bussing your teammate. After calling him out on D1. Pull the other one Cheese I'm not fucking Yamato or slOosh in here. I just told you I'm not playing WIFOM games with you. | ||
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On April 05 2013 08:31 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: In fact VE, wtf, why do you want a one-track thread? So you're saying the thread has to be anti-hopeless today? Thinking someone else is scum is bad! Why are you saying I want a one-track thread when I'm voting for someone that's not Hopeless? Are you even kidding me right now? | ||
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On April 05 2013 08:35 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: If I had just voted Hopeless, would we even be having this super-enlightening discussion right now? Who's to say? Not me. Fact is you didn't though. You also did not follow through with your "suspicion" of him at all. So here we are. | ||
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So yeah, keep on setting up those brainy crowbanes. I BRING DA FIYA | ||
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Don't like it? Shucks sorry dude. Feel free to try and convince me of Ghor's guilt though. If you think I'm town, it's in your best interest to do so. It only looks like I'm tunneled in right now because we're the only two here. I'm perfectly willing to discuss shit with you. | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: What about Ghor trying to pin the Syl lynch on those who switched over? I have no idea how that comes from a townie mindset. On April 05 2013 09:02 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Or him blatantly lying, saying that I sheeped my own scumread? I don't understand what you mean by the first point. Are you saying that people who switched late onto Syl should NOT be scrutinized? People who switched OFF of your scumread ONTO a townie, you're saying these people deserve no extra scrutiny? Mmmmmkay.... In your second, I got the impression that you were scum on Ghor from your D1 posting too. Like when I came in the other morning and asked whether there was something I wouldn't like in the thread and you responded "Ghor's posts". Maybe not your top scumread sure because you didn't try and get him lynched, but you seemed suspicious of him. My point is I can see it coming from a townie mindset. If he's town and he doesn't know your alignment, then obviously he's trying to read context into your posts. I didn't take it as him lying at all. At worst misunderstanding your posting D1 and misinterpreting the situation D2 is what I'm reading from that, not that he's blatantly lying. | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:11 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Oh, how disappointed you're going to be. I'm used to it. For as often as I die N1, you'd be surprised at how often I'm wrong. | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:17 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Great way to get people to listen to you, haha. VE Where did your buddy Risk go ![]() He just let you take over the train and go choo choo with it. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiisky! Get in here fella. I'm a realist. It's a failing in my play. The fact that you're here when no one else is is certainly speaking in your favor, but not much. | ||
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![]() If I were scum and you town, I'd be all over Ghor (if he's town) with you. BELIEVE THAT SIR. Or don't, I don't care. I'm very not on trial here. LMAO | ||
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On April 05 2013 09:40 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Well If I were scum and you town, I'd be all over Hopeless today if he's town with you. BELIEVE THAT SIR. I don't. *shrug* You still sexy beast tho. | ||
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Nevermind RoL unless you're cool with putting CC at L-1. | ||
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I will say that I want this day to last until at least I go back to work. I don't want this game to be in another talkless night phase all weekend...although frankly there's little difference these days. ![]() | ||
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HAPA I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WERE GONG TO BE STRICT ABOUT PEOPLE ACTUALLY TRYING TO PLAY THE GAME | ||
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RoL if you gave a shit about a dead thread you wouldn't go AFK for days at a time and repeatedly cite lack of reading the thread as your excise for not contributing and then come in and order town to lynch your reference with no reasoning and hurry it along you gots to be kidding. ##unvote ##Vote RoL | ||
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Lynch RoL, he's being absolutely ridiculous. | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Mr.Cheesecake | ||
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Lazer at least has a reason for suspecting me, RoL doesn't even have that. My contention with Cheese remains, but I guess I see RoL's point about his lynch. Kinda. I have to reread Hopeless to see where I stand with him. The fact is I preferred to lynch Syl at the end of D1 and there must have been a reason, which is pretty much the rationale behind not really suspecting him at the beginning of D2. | ||
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SO MUCH | ||
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Just. Fuck. | ||
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*fume* | ||
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