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risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 22:25 GMT
#518
On April 05 2013 07:19 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Cheese is manipulating Lazer.

##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake


This man speaks the truth.

what?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 22:43 GMT
#521
On April 05 2013 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
risk do something for me. Filter Cheese. Hit All. Ctrl-F "Lazer".

Read all the posts that he quotes Lazer. Tell me what you see.

It looks a lot like he's trying to get someone to bite at lazer.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 04 2013 22:57 GMT
#526
Hope you're of the hook for now. I'm not done with you. I want your explanations.
##Unvote:
##Vote: Mr. Cheesecake
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 10:09 GMT
#570
##unvote:
nobody's posted on ten hours. Where are people? RoL you said you'd be here by now...
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 11:04 GMT
#572
On April 05 2013 19:49 Ghor wrote:


@ risk

You said you found that D2 post from me suspicious, can you specify what and why?
Was that vote on CC indicative of suspicion or did you just want him to talk?

Both, I wanted to put more pressure on him because he didn't seem to take things seriously.

On April 05 2013 04:43 Ghor wrote:
Got really sad when I saw Sylencia's flip. Didn't expect him to flip town at all .

I'm still not sure what to make of the risk vs hopeless situation, and I'll be busy very soon until tomorrow. I would like to advise to go through a few things (will do that myself once I have time, but I think it's where we have to look at).

Still, quick rundown:
Check everybody's scumreads before the lynch, especially for weak pushes or even absence (considered RoL's absence to be scummy, but he gave an excuse and promised activity for 4 days which seems rather townie).

In that regard hopeless and risk still look equally bad to me cause they kinda dropped "casually" onto the sylencia lynch, and I would expect hopeless and CC to be more careful about sheeping their scumread's (me) case there (whereas hopeless said it was for self-preservation, will have to check if CC and hopeless gave out a sylencia read at all).


I'll have to scrutiny CC some more in general cause I didn't really pay enough attention to him since the risk pressure thing, and I don't know why he thinks I'm scum. I would like to hear reasons for that.

With that, I'll contribute more when I'm back and have more time. Good hunting.

I didn't like neither of the bolded statements.

I was against the Sylencia lynch and I stated several times why I wasn't sure he was scum rather then bad townie. You didn't seem to find that townie but instead find my behavior highly suspicious. I think that's odd. Because the only legit reason you could feel that is if you had a strong townread on hopeless or disagreed with my arguments against him.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 11:24 GMT
#574
On April 05 2013 20:14 Ghor wrote:
I found the situation (and still do) between you and hopeless hard to resolve. I think only one of you is scum, and I'm not able to establish which one.
That's part of the reason I was more interested into lynching sylencia D1, cause I want to see more from you and hopeless to be able to make a better decision, whereas sylencia looked very scummy to me (but turned out to be lynchbait).

You stating what you thought of sylencia is not enough. It's easy for scum to be right as opposed to a majority of townies who might be pushing for a mislynch. What matters is that you didn't fight the sylencia lynch in favour of the hopeless lynch when you should have, according to your earlier statement about hopeless , and instead seem to want to take credit for a townread on a dead townie now.

Why do you find CC suspicious?

Why have you ruled out the possibility both me and hope are town?

I did as much as I could to make people vote hopeless, should I had reworded and spammed the case against him every 5 minutes? And I didn't just say I opposed a syl lynch, towncred plox. I specified arguments for why the arguments against him could be wrong. At the same time I didn't feel confident enough to just say shut up I am dead certain you are wrong.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 11:30 GMT
#575
CC's interactions with lazer are very weird, I had planned to go over CC filters from other games to look for similarity's today but I haven't gotten around to it. I also think it's weird that he didn't take VE seriously. Although he did seem to take it a bit more seriously after I added another vote at least for a short while. VE didn't really keep him under pressure for long.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 12:48 GMT
#578
LOL, When I'm doing something townie, how is pointing that out to the thread scummy?
Where do your logic come from?
##vote: Ghor

I said I wanted to lynch Hopeless > RoL > Sylencia. You're saying I didn't act according to that. What bullshit because I did. You're just saying I didn't in words without disproving it, but saying something doesn't make it so.

I said I would switch to Sylencia to ensure a lynch. And so I did because there were no way in hell people were going to jump of sylencia and on hopeless with MINUTES to deadline. How is that opportunistic you little filth.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 13:26 GMT
#581
I don't understand what sort of shrewd view of towncred you are trying to sell.

This is mafia and this is how it works.

X bring up valid points for why someone might be a poor lynch.
X don't have enough towncred/influence so thread don't listen to X.
Postlynch it is determined X was right.
People are more inclined to believe X listen to X next time.


You're so full of shit because you don't want to lynch hopeless so hard but you're so scared of calling him town for when he flips scum that will incriminate you and you know it.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 05 2013 13:38 GMT
#582
Actually hopeless doesn't even need to be scum. Your interactions with me and him are so fucking suspicious regardless of if he flips scum or town.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 06 2013 19:36 GMT
#619
I see no point in posting before RoL and Hope gets back. I've been waiting for them to make a move of their own free will.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 06 2013 20:17 GMT
#622
Because I gave you a chance to prove that you give a shit about this game when you weren't under pressure. Which you didn't take.

RoL promised activity. I have an upcoming exam to study to. I'm not going to waste time discussing with the same old people and decide which one of the active players I want to kill while I still can't get reads on the suspicious lurkers. And Hope you've not been posting for a lot longer then most of us. Your last post was 48 hours ago.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 08:49 GMT
#636
On April 07 2013 12:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so.
##vote: VisceraEyes

If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of.

DO IT UP

I don't see how this is scumindicative.
Who's your other 2 reads. And I I'd like more detailed cases on all 3 of them.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 14:16 GMT
#639
On April 07 2013 22:59 Ghor wrote:
RoL, can you mention the points for why you have CC and risk as scumreads please? I'm not lynching VE.

Ghor-Rol scumslip
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 22:35 GMT
#663
On April 07 2013 23:16 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2013 22:59 Ghor wrote:
RoL, can you mention the points for why you have CC and risk as scumreads please? I'm not lynching VE.

Ghor-Rol scumslip

RoL claim two scumreads
Ghor knew it was me and CC.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 22:46 GMT
#666
I'm not bothering with you anymore Ghor. You're not so retarded that you could actually be town, just lay down and die.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 23:08 GMT
#669
I knew from your first post about it I was dead right on the scumslip and your later posts have only confirmed it.

On April 07 2013 12:17 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Alright fuck this. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so.
##vote: VisceraEyes

If cheesecake was scum this thread would not be dead and people would be talking. We are most likely barking up the wrong tree so fuck it. We are killing VisceraEyes because I said so and I don't feel like providing any other reasoning apart from saying that he is one of 3 people I am suspicious of.

DO IT UP

In this post RoL's saying CC isn't scum. So why would you assume that he is a scumread. You wouldn't. RoL posted the three of us in the scumqt.
You're not so arrogant that you would assume you knew the scumreads.
Your defense that it was obvious from his posts doesn't hold up.
I would lynch you for this alone but coincidentally your last actions was to lead a bandwagon against a flipped townie.
Afterwards your reaction wasn't to look over people who sheeped you onto the case but your top scumread was the person who opposed it. Bullshitcase, bullshit train of thoughts.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 23:13 GMT
#670
I solved the game. Can we hammer them so I can leave this wretched city?
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 23:49 GMT
#677
Missed, that he said CC was amongst his scumreads. Doesn't change anything about me or the previous reasons you're scum. Lay down and die. RoL will follow right behind you I can promise you that.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
April 07 2013 23:54 GMT
#679
On April 08 2013 08:48 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Risk's latest posting only served to solidify his place on my scum list. I would be open to killing him instead of VE, But I am curious to how you feel about that VE?

Nice try but townies wouldn't care what their top scumread thinks. Unless you're trying to get more information out of him to determine his alignment, but that shouldn't be necessary since he's your top scumread and you know he's scum right. So why did you direct that question to your top scumread over other people. Because he have townie influence. Hello scumagenda.


With scum like these, who needs townies. Good thing because I don't seem to have any.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
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